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Not at all. The object would be stretched incredibly thin because of the massive gravity. There would be no apple as we know it. It would eventually end up as a singularity

The apple would hit maximum velocity when it hits the center then as it passes the center would begin to decelerate. It is called harmonic motion if I remember correctly.

It would fall all the way through and then go back and forth losing a little height each time until it comes to a rest at the center. I would not think it would deform as long as it did not touch anything (the walls) on the way down

How is oolong tea and Taoism associated in your opinion?

Savages? I am now laughing, how much money did a savage scalp bring? Genocide is conducted by the savages. They merely had a different culture. Rand and Objectivism is not healthy for humans.

Karl, Just so you understand a little more about me. The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said 'This is mine', and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody. — Rousseau 1754 Not a red flag nor mud.

Obviously you did not read it. Ayn Rand's Objectivism rejects an array of ideas and modes of living that it deems are primitive by nature and indicative of a primitive culture. Objectivism views primitive states of existence as being "savage" and marred in mysticism, fatalism, ignorance, superstition, poverty, passivity, and collectivism. The cure to such a society Objectivism holds is Western civilization, capitalism and modernity,[1] which in its view brings with it reason, individualism, science, industrialization, and ultimately wealth. Rand's Objectivism rejects primitivism and tribalism, while arguing that they are symptomatic of an "anti-industrial" mentality.[13] Rand believed that the indigenous Native Americans, who in her estimation exhibited these "savage" traits, thus forfeited their property rights in doing so.[14][15] According to Sam Anderson of New York magazine, Rand also contended that Native Americans, "having failed for millennia to create a heroically productive capitalist society, deserved to be stripped of their land."[16] When Rand addressed West Point Military Academy cadets in 1974 and was asked about the dispossession and "cultural genocide" of Native Americans which occurred en route to forming the United States, she replied that indigenous people "had no right to a country merely because they were born here and then acted like savages .... Since the Indians did not have the concept of property or property rights – they didn't have a settled society, they had predominantly nomadic tribal "cultures" – they didn't have rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights that they had not conceived of and were not using." Rand went on to opine that "in opposing the white man" Native Americans wished to "continue a primitive existence" and "live like animals or cavemen", surmising that "any European who brought with him an element of civilization had the right to take over this continent."[14] She refers to Native Americans " They were born here and then acted like savages." Sorry objectivism is not healthy or good for the social animal called homo sapiens. Example of Ad Hom "I thought you were going to argue sensibly, but instead you are off balling in the street with your red flag and mud on your face. It's true because you feel it's true. Heaven help the rest of us."

https://en.wikipedia...f_the_primitive Her entire organization think they are savages. I have read atlas shrugged it leads to what we have now in the US. We are now in a plutocracy because of these failed ideals. We are to work together not exploit. Greed and selfishness are harmful to society.

Yes the corruption Karl brings up is a part of being capitalist and objectivist. Capitalism leads to plutocracy and oligarchy which are horrible. You have the few rich and wealthy and the rest are servants.

Ayn Rand believed indigenous tribes to be stupid like animals and needed us which they do not. India is capitalist so I am not surprised that farmers are being left out to drown. http://blog.peerform.com/the-five-most-capitalistic-countries-in-the-world/

I think this sums up her legacy. "An Asian peasant who labors through all of his waking hours, with tools created in Biblical times—a South American aborigine who is devoured by piranha in a jungle stream—an African who is bitten by the tsetse fly—an Arab whose teeth are green with decay in his mouth—these do live with their 'natural environment,' but are scarcely able to appreciate its beauty." Ayn Rand , The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivism%27s_rejection_of_the_primitive This is the type of thinking that ruins worlds.

Free means without restraint. I am not sure speech without restraint is healthy. Though I do agree that violence needs to be curbed.

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I was out of town and was not able to watch any games. Swansea took one on the chin against Hull city. Arsenal starting slow out of the gate.

Again Scientism? This sounds like this is your own rationalization for science you don't agree with?

It is now obvious that Karl has rejected science when it comes to altruism. We are at an impasse.

Scientism? Also making a reference that we should wake from our slumber would be an example of an ad hominom. It implies you are awake and understanding while we are not understanding.

Really the only question now with science is the connection between natural selection and altruism and how it works.

Yes, good call on that. We are a social animal so altruism is just a natural conclusion.

Science has now replaced philosophy for the most part. Science and altruism. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-s-your-real-motive-for-being-altruistic/ Far too many scientific articles that show altruism.

Altruism is very possible. Total survivors does not equal altruism is not possible. As an example if a child was sitting next to me I would immediately help the child get its mask on and if that results in my death then so be it. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/08/human-altruism-traces-back-origins-humanity

Welcome aboard hope you enjoy your stay.

Welcome aboard and hope you enjoy your stay.

Welcome aboard hope you enjoy your stay.

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