Pilgrim
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Why do YOU think the world is so messed up?
Pilgrim replied to alchemystical's topic in General Discussion
It is a far simpler answer. The royals have bread the stupids and they are born to privlidge unearned and live in a fantasy world where none of the conflict they create ever touches them. The “Them” are in charge, were before you were born, will be after you die or their retarded entitled, inbreed offspring will be after you are all dead. Any other elimentary questions? -
How to work with gratitude? Can you work with it?
Pilgrim replied to z00se's topic in General Discussion
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My apologies, the error is in my understanding. I see so you are an outsider to all the Western MoPai stuff. What have your findings revealed?
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Do you feel I am judging you? Is that what this is about? I was asking a fairly simple question in reply to what someone posted about a specific area of practice. It was about Spiritual Attainment and what it means in the Western Mopai Tradition. As far as I am concerned if a person practices something with no way to concretely express why and what it is for then they may be practicing something that they need a real teacher for that can tell them. If a teacher can not explain this much then there is little reason to continue with them. If a student does not know it is a poor reflection on the teacher. Either way I am curious and not just about Mopai when it comes to this question. If someone were to ask me about Kriya for example and say what is the purpose of practice I can break it down for them in meaningful terms step by step explaining why and what each practice is for as well as what to expect. Hope this helps clear up where I am coming from.
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Who are you speaking for? I was not asking about how whatever it is you do, or how you do things. I am asking specifically in reference to the person quoted IE: a western Mopai proponent. Might want to take the time to read and put questions asked by others in perspective outside of your own overwhelming desire to blurt out whatever is on your mind before doing so much writing.
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This reply reminds me of the everyone gets a trophy for participating mentality. It also fails to answer the question, thanks for trying. The very use of the phrase Spiritual Attainment negates the words above. So I will ask again please define Spiritual Attainment. From the dictionary we get the following. Spiritual: 1.Relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things. "I'm responsible for his spiritual welfare" synonyms: nonmaterial, inner, psychic, psychical, psychological; More 2. Relating to religion or religious belief. Attainment: 1. The action or fact of achieving a goal toward which one has worked. "the attainment of a complete collection is the measure of a collector’s success" a thing achieved, especially a skill or educational achievement. From this we can say there is some achievement or collection of spirit or something immaterial. Specifically what is it the Western MoPai folks are practicing for? In plain ol English what do they hope to get out of it? To ignite paper and create electrical shocks? FYI grounding oneself literally with a wire attached to ones naked butt and leading to the ground outside probably should be avoided especially during a thunderstorm.
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Aww heck that ain't nothing even an average bloke can do that and more with blood flow with nothing more than a kiss from their favorite girl.
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Define spiritual attainment.
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Right I bought a thin metal popcorn popper one with a crank in the handle. It is red. It is cheaply made. ( Later I discovered it makes the best popcorn ever and very swiftly!) Between opening the box and putting the lid with sharp edges on I somehow cut my finger. I did not even know it had happened until a fat red drop of blood landed on the shiny lid while showing my lady our new popper. I exclaimed hey? Now where did that come from?!!! At first I thought wow sloppy job painting they spattered the lid! Then saw it dripping from a sliced finger. When I saw it then the feeling of the flesh being separated became evident but very little pain. Not really interested in people slashing them selves up or eating glass and really would not care to see it. In my opinion they are immature and starved for recognition to the point of a mental and emotional bankruptcy. Is their some relevant point being made here with all that blade licking stupidity? How does this relate to Mopai other than to associate it via a post and cast not only it but the one posting this in a bad light? Honestly I never did get the whole John Chang Mo Pai issue anyway. My take on it is who cares? let others believe what they will, do as they will and say what they want makes no difference to me. Call it science, call it trickery call it what you will. Since I never met John Chang and had so much as a cup of tea with him or any of his students, shrugs shoulders and says ok, if you say so, sure why not. Serious question just why do people practice what JC taught? What is the purpose?
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Not saying thanks, but dang girl, now that deserves a trophy! 🏆
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Funny while reading this I got a vision of someone dressed in puritan garb riding a horse with a sword and a crossbow descending on a village said to be housing the muscle bound tatted warlock who wears a mask whilst teaching others his arcane craft. This mysterious riders intent leaves not much to imagination as grim of mood and stern of visage as he draws ever nearer.
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Reconciling the idea of already being complete v.s. the work needed to become whole.
Pilgrim replied to kyoji's topic in General Discussion
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Reconciling the idea of already being complete v.s. the work needed to become whole.
Pilgrim replied to kyoji's topic in General Discussion
These are very important points. These are the work. Then what is and always has been present can be seen but unlike ripping out framework and cleaning a house we are dealing with being human. This is not so very simple. Where to start? Coming from Kriya Yoga we acknowledge we do not know and it is impossible to put it into words so we take up the tools we have starting with this human body and nervous system and mind. We use these tools with practices until we clear enough away we become aware of our astral and casual bodies and work with those as well. The practices are the work. The realizations and the clarity that occur by performing the work take the time they take it all depends on what the issues of the individual that need cleared up while their are many broad commonalities the uniqueness of the individual is theirs to work out. -
How everything without exception leads to the same spout in the funnel.
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Well said
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Discourses on Second Kriya by Paramahamsa Hariharananda. Published in India decades ago via Ragabanandaji most advanced chela of Hariharanandaji it Is is an advanced practitioners book only circulated between those Kriyabans that are are ready, via my dear friend and teacher Donald Abrams.
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Bingo!
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First you need to define how you are using the word fundamentalism. Is it in the religious sense or the broader sense of adhering to the basic literal interpretation of any subject or discipline? Last I looked the world has always been drenched in religion. This ism or that anity and tend to think well to each their own. Except when used as an excuse to commit atrocities or to declare some right over others just because of beliefs or the insanity of claiming because our holy texts demands this treatment or that of infidels. Now in the broader sense people no longer trust governments or the elites in power. I get this because the fact of the matter is if you are not wealthy you have no chance of getting elected. Those in power have always been either the wealthy of conquers usually both. The majority are not. When people lose trust in government which runs education then they lose trust in what was taught. When people realize the news they are told is propaganda they lose trust in what they have come to respect. When all trust is gone then people foolishly believe all opinions carry equal weight even the village idiots. When laws are unjust people believe, behavior of their choice is acceptable regardless of the consequences. The list goes on and on but the answer remains the same left afloat in a sea of your on your own to figure it out people are starting with two plus two equals four, unfortunately however it just as often leads to 3, 5, or 7 as there are no basic tenants being observed so they are making up their own based on all manner of input.
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Is the earth hollow? Probably not in the way of Pelucidor but riddled with tunnels and enormous caverns. I just saw the latest Godzilla King of the Monsters Movie and it struck me funny how timely with this thread. Might want to check it out just for the sake of this topics correlation with it. FYI Great Movie going to see it again today! Big Screen must see!
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This zOOm reminds me of someone who has gotten banned coming back with a new name or just perhaps someone using two accounts to be obnoxious, pretty rare to see a newbie that is this rude. Whatever the case they are just making good advertisement for SOG and making him look good by comparison to their own behavior. Seriously who uses that particular pie system as a measuring stick anyway? Oh my how about more of that nice Key Lime pie from Publix?
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And I think tonight. Who is Loneman Pai? and the answer is who the fuck cares? Sonofthegods has his own site his own system. Quit being a nibbling rat and either contact him or not! Either learn from him or Don’t. Reading insane disparaging comments only makes me think yeah he does have something and he upset some jerk system that relies on lineage more than results!
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Ahhh paralysis by analysis. My 2 cents worth Best to take two days off from trying to figure it out just say screw it and tell answer come to me or I will do nothing! I have faith you will find the best way.