Pilgrim

You are welcome. Like I wrote elsewhere Original Kriya has never been a secret.

People should be careful with a video like this I can tell exactly what he is doing, he is enjoying the hell out of himself moving Kundalini and through sight will induce through induction a movement in others that may or may not be ready. Purify the nadis first get those channels clear just because it moves or awakens is not a good thing.

I agree what Neti Neti is describing is not it That in and of itself is a level. This is also not the end. I like the phrase This has the ring of truth to it and is experientially matching. I have written on this in the past without as clean a vocabulary. In my way of speaking I would say it as follows: One of the reasons I practice Kriya Yoga daily, is to die daily. This would be the shut down. These are the various Samadhi States. An intelligent person will say but Pilgrim you have already come back from the Samadhi where there is no heart beat, where there is no breath, where there is nothing remotly able to be told about it because there is no mind. Why then Pilgrim would you continue?? I asked myself this but knew the answer before the question was formed. The answer is because with each entry the ability to be more than just gone increases. More refined ability to be present in those places. Other than that even a corpse can achieve the state without heartbeat and breath, but how many can come back? That is an extreme and dangerous state because you are so far removed from living as a human that there is no interest in picking up a mind and returning. Not dangerous to the self but dangerous to this I typing because there are those I love and care about that would suffer not being able to comprehend and no wife should find a corpse like that. This is how I would explain it as my truest form of expression is sharing experience. Well the parts that can be anyway.

Please do tell.

Search me? I don't know. Just trying on some theories for size. I only know what I know from experience. Really scholarly things like this ism or that are not my thing when something fits it is just known. I think what I am trying to describe is a bit like Riju used to talk about. What does shutdown on all levels mean? Might it not also mean oh I don't know how about actually going beyond there even being a seperate self altogehter. In allot of ways Buddishm seems like a level of mind where people just get stuck. Buddishm has always struck me as somewhat afraid of death and wanting to continue if not in a vehicle of meat then in a vehicle of energy.

What is there definition of Cease?
 
 The Virtual Machine analogy I made was was in response to Shiva not Buddhism but then again it could fit if one considers Shiva a Buddha universe and all within his virtual realm as Virtual Machines.
 
 You can have a Hardware server but it always requires a primary operating system even for example, bare metal hypervisors like VMware but you are a fool to also have your primary domain controller located there as well. 
 The operating system is minimal but without it there would be no environment for the files comprising the virtualized operating systmes weither they be Windows based, Linux based etc... there would be no way for the Virtual machines to access or utilize the hardware of the host which by definition is still an operating system. So in my Analogy Shiva is the Hypervisor, but he is not the only one. The Primary Domain Controller acts as authentication control for the network and provides DNS so it should be outside of the Hypervisor. The Virtual Machines achieve network connectivity via DNS and are able to connect to others across the intranet and internet with one another but can also be granted access rights to one another via the Hypervisor. The internet is the medium operating via DNS that allows seperate Shiviac entities to allow communication between there virtual Machines. But the kicker is that the internet is nothing more than linked Shiviac Entites and thier respective domains. The virtual machines however are not prevented from crossing domains but the access levels and permissions are different in different domains. The Self then is dependant on a domain but able to cross domains at will. I think we as humans are managing to engineer what already is.

Oops already covered

Yes many eyewitness accounts recorded. https://www.amazon.com/Walking-Varanasi-Legends-Teachings-Trailingaswami/dp/8190120085 The book is very expensive I waited for the price to drop and purchased at $35.00 bu that is the lowest I have ever seen it.

Why?

According to this description Shiva would be the host machine and all the JIva would be virtual machines. A software centric approach. Lol you still need substantial hardware in the datacenter to pull this off.

This is a very good point. For some reason people have latched onto the idea that saints should act saintly. For some reason Gurus should have no warts. For some reason it should be white flowing robes and Moses like stature. If someone thinks that is it then God help them they are in for a big dissapointment. That type of person never existed in the first place. When you come into that types presence better leave your wallet at home. One of my favorite historic figures in Yoga Literature of Bengal is Trilanga Swami highly advanced and was something like 400 pounds walking aroud stark naked. He was known to pull some pretty outrageous stunts to get his point across and there are many stories of highly advanced yogis that also were Opium users and tobacco users and drunks. Could it be that perhaps once they got it they are just having some fun not carying too much about life or how long they will be in it because they realized it is a difference that makes no difference at all? Maybe but then again they could just be regular people that are having a ball. Except some of them are known to do things that ordinary people can not. Drinking tubes of Lie for example, shitting in their own hand and transforming it into sandal paste aroma and all, to prove the point of nothing making a difference, eating hot coals, being imprisoned only to be found on the roof of the jailhouse, walking on water the reports go on and on. Is there a difference to the self? Not one Iota.

Oh you know better than that.

Yes in fact the detail is suprising especially concerning Kriyas 2 through 4. This is not another one of the books making promises like the monastics puke out and then beat around the bush.

This came as a bit of a surprise this morning but a welcome one. Last Friday morning while talking to Sri Mukherjee in India via Skype he informed me his two volume book would be published at the end of the month. Evidently the person helping him completed the edits early and both volumes were published today on Amazon as both Kindle and Paperback. I have began reading Volume 1 and so far it is the same as being with him in person. Surprisingly so. If a person reads these books he or she will come away with the personality of the Author amazing how he managed that with help from editors. It looks like he is kicking out all the stops and has written things exactly as he taught them including material only discussed in person as well. Anyone interested can find the books here. Original Kriya Yoga Volume I: Step-by-step Guide to Salvation https://www.amazon.c...alvation kindle & Here: https://www.amazon.c...alvation kindle Kindle which for some reason is not linked with the paperback. https://www.amazon.c...alvation kindle & Here https://www.amazon.com/Original-Kriya-Yoga-Step-step-ebook/dp/B06W9N9CX3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487600304&sr=8-1&keywords=Original+Kriya+Yoga+Volume+2%3A+Step-by-step+Guide+to+Salvation+Kindle+Edition

I like this Mooji he reminds me of Pat Morita from Karate Kid and Jessie L Martin playing the Flash's dad on the CW T. V. Show There is something sweet and wise about him ,so sorry to have missed meeting him, thank you Bindi

Did it work?

Don't be too serious.

Thanks for joining the conversation Jeff. Absolutely correct Mantra is limited to mind. Prana is limited to bodies Physical and Astral. Once Astral Channels are open via the blending of Prana and Mantra, or Bodies and Mind then one has great bliss and then it is like a step up transformer and one goes beyond Mantra Mind , Prana life force and Bliss.

Lol no I meant Copperhead Snakes reproduce Asexually.

Hi, Mantra alone is not a reliabel way. It can act as a Catalyst but on it's own, my God that is like pushing a rock up a hill with your nose. When you make Pranyam with Mantra not as a seperate thing and thereby intigrate your mind with it then you are assured to purify the nadis. Attempting to push Prana without purifying the nadis is not wise, it leads to mental emotional and physical difficulties. Can you give me a clear idea of what you personaly think Enlightenment is? After that let us discuss this more. interesting article but they are making it alot more complicated that it is, it is a parallel to what I call Becoming Gender Complete. Keep an eye out for my PPF before long I will be addressing this concept of Gender Complete.

Oh that easy, the One was a Copperhead snake.

You betcha bravado enjoying myself a bit AH thank you for the information, having only seen him talk on stage it was assumed he was not.

Mostly I reply in terms of being and becoming the stages of. Hopefully it makes sense. Ah it would seem so but no. To communicate like this requires mind and therefore ego, to interact at all requires ego. If you transcend you will be struck dumb like a Zen master that only utters MU. Within MU is everything and nothing. Another with comprehension understands, to others it sounds like cow noises. When enjoying the sense of time is much different within each moment there is such transcendent joy. Orgasmic waves of being for such a one fulfillment beyond reckoning. Yet you are not trapped in a moment but flow like oil in tranquility. Interacting becomes somewhat painful because you have to tune into the scene and this is a rough vibration by comparison it is internally uncomfortable by comparison and in the beginning makes it difficult to go back home. There is no such thing as mundane. A lowered sense of imperative? This is a nice concept. But not it. Things that might have been a bother before mean nothing they have no emotional hooks. Effortless effort. You can still prioritize but that is making an effort. Everything is known to be fine just the way it is. There is no reason to participate or not participate. If you really get to it you will find that whatever is needed is provided and there is no reason to remember anything but if taken far enough you will by default be removed from society, family etc... this is because you will have shucked the identity anchors and quite possibly have a very different mind and personality at times as both are just overlays anyway. It can be difficult without a friend to help explain but makes no difference to the core. When you see naked sadhus in India this is how it is for the real ones, others are trying to make the external appearance match the internal desired state. What happens is the mundane as it has been labeled is going on around you and you are aware of the intricacies of it on a different scale. Everything is in harmony at this scale. It is more of a macro awareness but one can slide up or down the scale. Playing the game is not quite it, knowing better is not quite it. Knowing that this is not the entirety of ones existance would be a closer way of saying it. This gives great comfort knowing you are always actually liberated already. Not conceptionaly but experientially otherwise you are a office worker walking around playing naked sadhu who would be better off putting there cloths back on. Life is not a game, it is very real especially when what is described is known, it is just not the only real, it is important, just not the only important. In order to function with others prioritize and remember one must either have caretakers like the Swami's do with others paying there way or come back down and reintegrate with the personality and ego the vehicles for these lifetimes. Here is a danger. The personality can change, the mind can change, the ego can change. There comes a time with repeated letting go and just being that when these vehicles are taken up again that one has grown more accustomed to the other. These vehicles then can be something other than those around you are accustomed to and if you have a committed relationship the time will come where the you who made the commitment has changed so much that it is no longer the same. This can make for dramatic life changes unless one can stabilize back within the Jivic program one is incorporated into by virtue of birth. This can happen in leaps or a little at a time. Contrived practices like Kriya Yoga accelerate things like this and can if rapidly accelerated enough lead to periods of mental and emotional distress and instability with very poor decisions as a result. One can even loose contact with their moral compass as it is an artifact of ego yet very important when interacting on the egoic planes, this is how we wind up with abusive gurus and horror stories and manipulations by cult leaders. It does not have to be all or nothing and rarely is, mostly it is gradual until it is not. Then a stage is reached where you are the living liberated meaning liberated but still incarnate and can choose to be beyond or be in the program but it is a false choice really as knowing both the program and the not program automatically speeds up the movement towards the not yet the cherry blossom is still beautiful even though it becomes more and more the stuff of a hologram. The jiva then is in the world but becoming less and less of it per their comfort level but make no mistake they are on rhere way out so clinging is useless. It takes the time it takes, me I am a slow learner I like to explore and enjoy the scenery until I have consumed it all to satisfaction then with sated boredom firmly in place missing nothing move along missing nothing renouncing nothing but rather allowing everything to renounce me. Still This I dies daily in the practice of Kriya Yoga and like the Phoenix reborn but with more refined feathers. It has taken years to learn how to do without overdoing.

Interesting topic having poked some fun at it, will now try to be a little serious. This business of no memory / no ego is just so. Been there done that, returned to participate in the incarnation given. He is correct you can be so fully present that ego is not and with it memory as well and you can function as long as interactions with others or the life you are present to live in the first place do not require too much mental interaction. The minute you need to focus and pull something up you might find yourself like a frog on a hot plate though. I would love to take all these popaji's and big talkers sitting on their dead ass and toss them into the salad of the real world earning a living, commuting and answering to clients and several bosses, repairing there home, vehicles, having a serious one on one daily committed relationship with another human being and just for fun throw in some kids and perhaps a dog and a puking cat so they can unexpectantly step in something unpleasant with bare feet once in a while then talk some shit for me. Sure you can remove ego / memory and enjoy being present like anything the whole problem is you are so present that you will find yourself separate from everything and realize the play of the projector and that is good but you are still here so not so present as you might think but actually not present, to be here now you have to agree to play make believe and that means getting off your cloud.

UDT? Underwater Demolitions Team? Still sounds like some killing