Pilgrim

I am sorry you are wearing those shoes. They tried to get me with false promises but I grew up real hard on the streets and always looked at everything like a one eyed cat cocking my head sideways making sure what I saw was what I thought I saw. No hard feelings here either and do understand but at some point in time rationality has to be understood as the falsehood it is as it only serves the point of view of those declaring it to be so.

Very good advice wish I had it years ago. Thanks.

Was not my intention to double down on you but when the shoe fits well wearing it can be hard and if calling me stuped repeatedly makes you feel better then go ahead. I paid for my ex-wifes student loans so honestly this pisses me off quite a bit and has little to do with you at all.

I agree and honestly these institutions should be made to bare the burden of misleading others. Not the banks not the lending institutions that exist for the sole purpose of collecting interest on loans but the ones benefiting from over pricing education in the first place making it un-affordable and then selling a dream that quite frankly does not exist. Very few who graduate ever achieve what was promised by holding some silly ass paper. Go to school to learn what you love to do and what is in demand. Pay attention to the times in which you live and work hard at it live dirt poor like I did do not believe you need a Bachelors degree in Computer Science to have a career in I.T. for example. When I started I was damned good but I had two things going for me more talented people did not. #1. Credit Score in the 800's. #2. A clean background record. These two things alone can help a young person succeed over others.

And you reveal yourself as someone who can't stand the truth of his own irresponsibility and call others stupid? Holding up a mirror take a good look. Thanks when you want to learn how it will be my pleasure to teach you. Honestly anyone stupid enough to sign onto a bad loan with high interest is a waste to educate in the first place that should have been learned by the time one finishes High School.

It can also be eliminated by working for a living and going to school at night instead of taking out loans whose terms are clearly spelled out that you will never be able to afford. You work and you get the best education you can afford and you become proficient in your career. No one was ever forced to sign a loan agreement for school or anything else, choices have repercussions. If you can’t afford it then you have no right to take out huge loans and not repay them. If the interest rate is bad you don’t take the loan. Why is common sense so uncommon? For instance I am in the process of buying a house right now. I have done my due diligence and broken all the lenders down and found the best deal. I qualify for much more house than I am buying but am not stupid to take on more than I can support and pay the loan down swiftly so interest is not as great as it would be by lingering over the full term.

All I have to say to this is pay for your own fucking education just like I did no one gave me handouts and to do so is a mistake. How about they take a different approach and either cap what overpriced learning institutions can charge or offer an alternative like gee I don't know affordable education that the Government provides and the student pays it back out of their taxes for taking the govt loan. Pretty simple really. Education Healthcare Insurance Housing are all way out of control and way, way overpriced.

And with this the entire thread and all the arguments political and otherwise can be put to bed. Well said Stosh.

Wouldn't take much for O Town where most people live today was swamp. I grew up out by Econlockhatchee Trail and Lake Underhill Road ( If you Know where that is in a Subdivision called Deerwood close to the Rio Pinar Golf Club and Pepper Tree) in the early 70's. Then later in Kissimmee as Orlando became too busy it is remarkable for me to visit either area now and I wonder #1. Who in their right mind would choose such a congested traffic nightmare that makes Pittsburgh look calm by comparison. I mean seriously you can not go from one traffic light to the next without having to stop and there are too many traffic lights. Heck one evening just about two years ago now it took 45 minutes to drive 7 miles and that is unpardonable in my book. #2. When I do visit and see where housing and buildings have been built I think my God that used to be swamp or a pasture and woods and laugh about the old saying about getting suckered into buying Florida swamp land. Well ol Walt did and BTW all true Floridians know he was frozen and placed into suspended animation somewhere in the numerous tunnels at the park. I reckon with all the Billions they have raked in and continue doing so they already have the science to bring him back but he probably told them to wait until a much later time.

Aw man... Bummer... I was just circling back around to it would you PM me the Link. Thanks.

Well let’s see I forget what color pill does what but after taking a nap and in the dream eating ribs like a wolf and waking up chewing in my sleep I am avoiding the asshole with the pill that leads to slop in a can. Gotta get ribs tonight looking at pictures of meat has awakened the inner cave man!!

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first tentative steps these are the voyages of bums in inner space

If you say so but I ain’t wearing any of it!

I prefer mostly bag of water filled with piss and shit or meat body if you must, but must confess the nasty crap receptacle is kind of funny too.

Well said and nicely explained.

Follow the money trail. Right now from what I understand multiple small reactors spread out rather than huge plants are the way things are going now.

The reason why fasting helps is less Prana and nerve energy is being used for digestion. Right now you are working with a more body type energy that comes from food, air, water not the raw source but that which has already been processed and modified for body life use. This is good. In time you will learn by working your way backwards to entertain the raw source. Later it becomes less about the body and more about real stillness, but that takes a while for most, you are on the right track.

Neti Neti gave a great experiential answer. It all depends on the practice and the tradition. I also think allot of instruction has been misinterpreted as holding the breath. Here are some examples. In Kriya which is a Vedic and Tantric system of techniques and technologies of light and energy combined we take brief pauses but that is not the same as holding the breath eventually when the mind gets still enough as it were, then the energy flows and takes over then there is no need to breathe for whatever period of time it lasts. Even in the Tibetan practices of Tummo there is one thing that holds sway above all else. The mind must become of a certain quality of stillness for the energies to flow then the breathe suspension required for it to be effective does so on its own. One of the simplest most effective means of stilling the mind is zazen sitting Zen. Overall though you are coming to it in your way which is more mechanical and is a great realization on its own. My advice is to follow the more mechanical way that DWAI has generously given. I also seriously advice you to practice the 9 breaths of purification otherwise the energetics that will develop one day might harm you. What you are experiencing now is the tip of an iceberg. You can still the mind by stilling the breath but when the energy stills the mind a whole new reservoir of energy opens and floods in And is the time when more advanced techniques become alive not mere exercises.

Wringing out my socks Zounds but mine feet doth stinkith Got to soap the toes

So are you asking if ecstasy as introduced by teachers a gateway to the rainbow body experience? If so I do not know but would like to.

Which phenomenon are you referring to?

Yes it is.

What is your take on this topic? What are your thoughts about body of light and the whole direction towards it? and what is to follow? I am sure you comprehend the mechanics of it, that is to say how it all works. Thanks.

It would not be surprising Sufi practices also found its way into the higher Kriyas.