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What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
I get you. But cuddeling adults more and more is not the answer. And how many got harmed by Meditation and Qigong? It is niche and very dangerous without the transmission how its done but we as adults should be able to talk about it in a normal way. You should ask shadow self about that...he is much deeper in that practices. From my point of view it depends on the stage you are at. The earlier stages are more ming the later more xing but usually there is a bit of both in all the stages (except the very high ones). And the elixir unites them. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
I said that mercury is deadly and did not encourage anyone. Only alchemical prepared is good. Dont understand your note. Besides all here are adults and not 5 years old. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
No that is not what i said. I said that mercury is poisonous in its usual state. If one knows the alchemical preparation it is not poisonous anymore (same for lead). Then it becomes very life enhancing and is the basis of the external elixir = philosophers stone. Well the pathway is energetic. It clears the illness underlying karmic pattern, the suppressed emotions that are part of it, the karmic debt ascociated with it. Seems to clear (or kill?) bad bacteria, viruses etc. And has strong body rebuilding effects. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Since some of them where very sick and on the brick of death and then cured. I guess they enjoy each day with gratitude. Alchemical prepared mercury gives extremly long life. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
This true teacher healed a lot of people with mercury (proberly prepared). -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
That is untrue! External alchemy still exists in some schools (also in India) and is very powerful. The external elixir = the red philosophers stone. Yes, mercury is used and it is deadly if you do not have a true teacher of these arts. If you have it is very powerful. Idiots who thought they can learn that from books or find it out by themselves of course found out they could not. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Interesting! Didnt know that it could mean red. In external alchemy the highest form of the external elixir is red. The external elixir is more commonly know as philosophers stone. And the highest form is the red stone. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
MIchael80 replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Hi! Shadow selfs different dans is a good list as far as i am aware. Though most are minor dans or stages of variations of an unfolding process. But different traditions have different definitions. Usually the highest is the golden elixir...this comes from merging of xing and ming...wich means merging of yuanshen with yuanqi.(but even that can vary). In the traditions i know yuanshen is soul. So the soul merges with ming (=yuanqi =life battery). Soul/yuanshen is preheaven yin. Ming/yuanqi is preheaven yang. Once they merge it becomes pure yang. This golden elixir matures into the yangshen and brings changes in awareness. (But as i said, different traditions follow different processes). -
Ah ok...understood! Yeah i also was suprised that he equated the jade fluid with yuanjing.
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Hi! I cannot follow you. What do you mean he is using it in a relativ way and not absolute?
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Quite a good and advanced clip Why do you think this is controversial?
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Neidan has never worked with jing, chi, shen. Working with the 3 is preparation phase. Neidan works with pre-heaven(yuan) jing chi and shen ....which is something very different. Hope that helps
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Where to learn neidan/neigong properly ? + How i ended up here
MIchael80 replied to thewheelofortune's topic in Welcome
Hi! On daodeqigong.com you can learn ancient northern neidan method of yuxian pai and later northern method (the most famous neidan....sitting meditation) of wuliu pai. On daode.ru you can now even learn the ancient northern method of wuliu pai (said to be Lao Tse method). All the best -
The universal agent is not mercury. Mercury is the basic component of the socalled philosophers stone. Though practically you can make stone from minerals, herbs etc. In srictures mercury is called the supreme substances for making it....but one should really know how or it is deadly.
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Hi! From what i was taught is that there are no alchemical herbs BUT alchemical prepared herbs. Through alchemical preparation their qualities are enhanced dramatically (and sometimes changed). Mercury for ex. is highly toxic but when one was taught the alchemical secret it becomes lifespan lengthenging, rejuvinating and healing. Simple form of herbs alchemy that is common today is spagyric. They have replenishing formulas but do not use chinese terms. Hope that helps a bit.