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Much as I thought. Thank you for the confirmation Taoist Texts.

Thank you very much for your answer. If you have the good will and patience please let me know if in Taoist alchemical literature one starts that work voluntarily or on the other hand gets caught in it due to karmic causes as somehow taomeow was suggesting. Midway upon the journey of our life I found myself within a forest dark, For the straightforward pathway had been lost. Ah me! how hard a thing it is to say What was this forest savage, rough, and stern, Which in the very thought renews the fear. So bitter is it, death is little more; But of the good to treat, which there I found, Speak will I of the other things I saw there. I cannot well repeat how there I entered, So full was I of slumber at the moment In which I had abandoned the true way. The Inferno - Canto I Dante Alighieri

Want to elaborate on that? Thanks.

Thank you, sillybearhappyhoneyeater.

Is there in Taoist alchemy an equivalent to the "dark work" of western alchemy, a terrifying and painful purification as the starting point of the process? The question is for anyone who wants to answer it. Thanks.

"...or going into the mystery gate (the unconscious portal between post and pre heaven)..." Want to elaborate on that? Thanks

--nope, knowing happens When our own minds get stolen By the Divine thief...

Happy New "Present", steve and everybody!

D. Corleone's ring is the shit...

Don't think she found a lie. She's in the process of understanding truth expressed in a non linear form. If logic was the perequisite of all truth there wouldn't be the necessity of symbols and there is such a necessity as we all dreamers know and it's natural. How about paradoxe? Paradoxe is another natural expression of deeper truths (again can be found in dreams), right daoist bro?

Is it so ? The seven year old girl asks her father " Daddy do frogs become princes when they are kissed by princesses?" The father replies "They certainly do sweetie!" Truth sometimes is beyond logic

I would call it knowing by sensitivity like Lord Wenhui's cook. Truly amazing, and it seems like it's something achievable like the young man in the above video demonstrates.

This video was posted this week by "rainbowvein" on "what are you watching on youtube". Thought it would be suitable to post it here too.

That would make me want to read the damn book

I think it would make a great thread too I don't know either divine guidance from my minds whispers but it's important for me that I sincerely ask for it. My experience tells me that it comes in all shapes and forms, many times in amazing synchronistic ways. It came to my mind a wise thought from the TTC that I can't locate right now but it goes something like this _ the wise man let's people reach their conclusions as if they got there by themselves _ please everyone forgive me for somehow daring to misquote Lao-Tzu.

Asking for Divine guidance is also very important. I'm afraid male baldness comes with the territory, just take a look at the simbology of the "sacred bald man" (buddhist, egyptian etc.) Best wishes

Thank you so much, dao bums moderating team

Can he be talking about ru xiang (frankincense) and mo yao (myrrh), channel openers ?

The Katha Upanishad is another one of my favourites... having death as our personal guru. http://veda.wikidot.com/katha-upanishad-eknath

"The Tibetan book of living and dying" by Sogyal Rinpoche and the "Essays" by Michel de Montaigne "To practice death is to practice freedom. A man who has learned how to die has unlearned how to be a slave.” ― Michel de Montaigne

I do the same (keep signing out) untill it works. I actually feel guilty afterwards for trying that hard. Pretty sure Lao Tzu wouldn't forgive me, which is great