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Or perhaps there is no place, and nothing ever happens, thus there are no changes, since there's no one else here, the emptiness, is the everything, is me.
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Perhaps it's possible the one observing unintelligence and insincerity is merely observing the reflection of his own plastic world. Convinced there is much to do to gain enlightenment, he prides himself in his discipline, and turns up a nose to the couch bums doing nothing to deserve it. Some go on long journeys never to be seen again. Some journeys consist of couch-surfing for years. Curiously, such non-journeying can produce the same results as the aspirant travelling the world in search of a teacher. Both may simply find themselves where they first began. As if they never left, and as if they never stayed.
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Do you? Of course, if one were so led, one could also go home and meditate for 3-4 hrs a day on these fancy passages for several years, with similar results. This would be the equivalent of what Nisargadatta did with the words of his guru, is it not?
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What realisation? What sages? Who achieved what? There is no Nisargadatta. Having understood this, of what use would that understanding be?
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"The heart is the hub of all sacred places. Go there, and roam." ~Bhagawan Nityananda
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Because that type of practice is of no use. It's far too simple, and no one will ever be able to achieve that "state." It sounds practical, but the attainment is just illusory. See how that works?
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It seems retracing his steps would also be illusory if you were to remain consistent. What guru? What meditator? What realisation? You're certainly entitled to dislike the content shared. But at no time has it been suggested that reading "fancy passages" was a "way to do it".
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This reminds me of my mirage brother, Alan Watts, speaking of Man and Nature. While it leans more toward the subject of morality in that man is in essence the highest of virtues, personified, I believe it's worth a mention... I paraphrase a bit. I share this not in the spirit of discouraging our wonderous capacity to self-examine or even speculatively imagine the deepest possible meanings of what it means to be... human. But in the spirit of being content to fearlessly trust and unabashedly love all of oneself despite the irksome sense of... not-knowingness.
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Interesting blend, although at a glance it seems to subtly suggest that jnana yoga is in some way lacking bhakti. A true jnani is indeed the greatest of bhaktas. His "monistic meditation" is puja, perpetual. One school flows into the next, and each is within the other... Barring that intuition, I'm inclined to say the purposefully combined methods may be of great benefit for those practicing sincerely.
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What's more important? Technique or meditation? What is meditation?
neti neti replied to dwai's topic in General Discussion
Dodging 10,000 raindrops, naturally, without avoidance. Such that even if drenched in the storms of madness, one strolls along content knowing the madness to be one's own. This too shall pass. Watch the weather baby, because it's gonna change.- 12 replies
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Most excellent my friend. The experience of awakening to one's immense Presence is the freedom of being the seeing which sees beyond itself. That which tends to attend to this that and the other, instinctively assumes this or that's identity and explores rabbit holes endlessly... feigning unfamiliarity along each trail's scent as if the novelty were not its own. But in just a split instant of abiding as the timeless now, attention suspends. Grasping ceases to scratch after that which was always firmly held, and all that arrests oneself in slumber seems to gently shake off, like shackles on a man too burdened for too long to believe he's been set free. One seems to wade through tides of tension, yet the vast depths which propel us toward shores is the same which lovingly draws us back home... diving deep into that stillness where waves no longer crash.- 12 replies
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"Good derives its virtue from evil, just as it is the silent pause that gives sweetness to the chant." ~St. Thomas Aquinas
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What's more important? Technique or meditation? What is meditation?
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Nisargadatta - A Quiet Mind is All You Need: If it's so simple why is it so hard?
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Has anyone had a personal experience with any of the Hindu Deities?
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The circumstances and types of experiences of our lives
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Interesting take on things. Perhaps I was mistaken, but that word is like all over the first post.
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I know you love those tables. Sucked ya right in!
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And if I may, he offers "degrees" of Turiya which may aid in realizing the scope of that persistent mind-blowing perception that... Self Alone Is, and may serve as signposts to gauge one's level of "conscious awareness" throughout all so-called relative states. Well, hope that helps. I suggest purchasing a copy if you are so led, lest I end up sharing whole chapters.
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Probably one of the best I've come across conveying the depths of the "stateless state". From, "Turiya - The God State" by SantataGamana. It should be noted that the author acknowledges the concept of "wakeful sleep", but doesn't just leave the reader with that bare vague claim. He actually describes Why the concept is accurate as a pointer, which creates an understanding that integrates the experience for us who've had glimpses, or days, or weeks of literally, "living the dream."
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There's something to be enjoyed in all views or models various schools adhere to. Advaita happens to consider Turiya as another experience also, and intimates the transcendental with Turiyatita; beyond mind, without necessarily "being the all" either. I'm not so sure about the so-called individual's volitional potency in regard to anything that seems to happen or not happen, continue or cease... generally speaking. But that would surely be for another topic.
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