neti neti

Perhaps "conflict" is a natural extension of motion, whether push or pull. Perhaps "harmony" isn't as useful to us in comparison short of contrast. Perhaps were it not for the impulse to "just indulge" in the strength of feeling, we'd never even have this guilty pleasure fun show horror to... feel with? Perhaps there is a time and place for feeling the purity of indulgence, for indulgence's sake. Perhaps, compulsively identifying with the emotion itself, such that one IS Anger/Angry exclusively, is ironically the path most conducive to clear insight into what's truly going on e-motionally, and why. Tracing each down to its logical conclusion and owning them, no matter how unpleasant, thereby reconciling the discharge with its source. At the ends of soul searching, shall we ourselves be found wanting upon scales of our own judgements? Waves crash, ocean unmoved... in unison, motionless motion. Tides push, tides pull, all in pursuit of intrinsic balance. Which emotions consistently present themselves, but remain ignored, deemed insignificant at this very most opportuned singular moment of Now? And yet perhaps, even in our ignorance we're working out what must, for what lesson could be of more import than realizing one has missed the point entirely? Perhaps we perpetually learn of learning and, feel of feeling. Perhaps this marvelous grand mess of ours is in perfect harmony, just as it is.

Count your blessings, you old scrooge! Can't you see none other knows how to better annoy me, than me!? You must LOVE getting annoyed. LOL

Interesting! In this reconciling of... paradox, what has been fixed? Have you satisfied the why? Or has reacquainting with the how sufficed? Which emotion is the guiding force?

these are not the trolls you seek, this is where emotions meet. nonetheless, as you wish.

Aah yes... Emotions ARE the path, aren't they?

I think we made rules... to Break 'em!

... Thanks ... for being me?

Tell me about it. And there I was, seduced into yet another extravagant getaway ticket to the greatest story never told... nowhere. What a gyp. Cut off from source( at the umbilical!), all these radically obnoxious blinding lights, and for the love of all that could still be held sacred, not ONE willing and able nipple in sight! Oh the agony !!! If ignorance is indeed bliss, guess I'll always just be a sucker for torture.

as close as here omnipotent weakness conscious space unknown beable

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My sentiments exactly, Steve.

Absolutely! Why even post at all ???

one of my favs...

Oh my. It seems a rarity is in full swing here... we seem to actually be dangerously close to discussing the similarity of what apparently differing traditions point to! How refreshing! Consider that... "...both are correct in their sphere, for the flower is not the soil, nor the soil the flower." ~Mataji Bhairavi Nagalakshmi

"The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply." ~Stephen R. Covey

Love this.

I am, before effort. No external, no internal, before words. I exist as one with providence. Awareness, my true nature, naturally. How much effort would you suggest I muster in order to be?

Interesting points. Thanks, apech. The general Hindu attitude, IMHO, is that... whether sought after by devotion/mantra, or uninvited blessings manifesting through karma yoga... for material gain in this world, one must work for it in one form or another. In contrast, the highest teachings express the reality that providence has made true happiness, wealth and abundance available at any time, at no cost and with zero effort. Perhaps this principle is why yogis/monks tend toward firstly advocating the "path of naught".

Anyways, didn't mean to go off topic with that... I suppose the rich and prideful man in this example would fall under #2: spiritually inept-- consciously incompetent

Fair enough, but I've studied it extensively and never found it misleading or contradictory for that matter. The "good book" is largely misquoted and well out of context at that, probably due to reader biases. People can take one line out of any text and do the same, but it never ceases to amaze me how it seems to be habitually done with the Bible... almost purposefully at times. It's quite specific about the LOVE of money being the root of all evil. Not too much to argue about there, imo... just gotta take a look around.

It's symbolic language. The rich man is proud. Far too engrossed in material aspects of life to have a chance at searching out the kingdom within. The poor are the meek and humble.(but rich in spirit)

One's strength lies within one's fragility.