Lee

Hi, Iv been doing a LOT of lower dan meditation lately and for the past week i can effectively heat the lower dan tien up, this is not intentional but rather seems to happen on its own. Today i had done a very successful meditation and the lower dan was extremely hot, even my belly was hot to touch, and has stayed hot for the last few hours now. I do walking meditation for circulation but am wondering if now iv reached a specific point of development and should now be doing something else with the energy of the lower dan tien. Thanks in advanced

Hi everyone, I was unsure where to place this topic. I am trying to achieve full lotus for my new practices and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on stretches or dvd's that i can learn. but am really looking for something for an absolute beginner. something that i can practice daily to give me the flexibility and conditioning to be able to correctly perform full lotus without injury. Thank you in advanced.

Hi everyone, I'm trying to understand the three energies, dang, rolpa and tsal. i have the impression that: Dang - the mind, both void and infinite capacity Rolpa - The energy of the manifestation of the condition of dang. it reflects the condition of dang Tsal - is the manifestation of reflected condition of rolpa due to karma, dang is manipulated into impure vision, this is reflected through rolpa as a manifestation of dualism through tsal, is this correct? what reads could i use to deepen this area of knowledge thank you Lee

Hi, Last week i began to have visual breakdowns during my practice. It happens roughly 1 minute into my qigong practice. It seems to be that my visual view breaks down and becomes an abstract pastel painting, colors can be seen but the outline and formation of separate materials is non-existant during this. during movements when i move my arms in a sinking motion, i can see straight through my golden glowing solid matter. It's very strange but i try not to become fixed on it, i observe without observing. Is this a new level in my personal progress and should i expect this type ego breakdown to deepen in time Thanks in advanced

thank you for the comments everyone. After much reading about a few things i have decided to do simple movement meditation, along with some breathing exercises and empty meditation for now until proper training. I plan to drive 140 miles per session day to join damo's school in london after xmas though as it's too much for now. screw learning heavy things at home with no supervision lol

Thank you for the heads up I have wondered before that if one is to take energy from the surroundings, but at the end of practice provide the area with old energy, wouldn't that energy just be replenished into fresh energy that an then be used up by the plant life ect? In order to prevent taking energy from things such as tree, would a specific things need to be done or can this be voided through intent alone?

Thank you i will be in touch over the next few days, i really appreciate the help

When i work with meditation, i never go into it with an intent of experience. I simply follow my rules of regulation and then the experiences happen. In the sense of forcing, this is not something that i do, however i do use the mind to become stuck in the correct place of interest. In terms of the heat, i was yet to know that this was going to happen until i experienced it for myself, after that i did some searching and found out what it was. This was achieved through a deep state of calm but yet alert of the area of interest. rather than trying to develop for the experience i seem to practice with an open mind of what i may or may not experience. At the beginning of my training i was told nothing about what the energy feels like and was told that i should not know until i experience it, because the ego mind can be so powerful that it may create a false experience. I do seem to have much success with being able to feel what is happening due to the lengths i go to in my preparation of the practice, i see many people practicing meditation for hours and hours with no results and the reason i put it down to is expectation of what will be experienced. During my practice i will spend on average of 30 minutes regulating my mind, body, breathing and then i will use my awareness to drift into the area of interest for that practice and spend on average 5-10 minutes cultivating.

the trouble is around my area coverage the so called masters are teaching structure with no substance kind of stuff. qigong and tai chi with no inner form of energy but rather nothing more than a complex workout that gains nothing that it was created for. hence why now i have to try and develop on my own

Thank you! In terms of this light, when i practice, most of the time i do have an inner vision, not an imagination image but its hard to describe other than i can see what is happening inside, almost as if my consciousness is experiencing it at that time on an image perception. again very hard to describe but i do see what is happening in a kind of glowing sensation view. if that makes sense. However this is only achieved when i hit my deep state that i have the purpose of hitting, i sometimes allow myself to target nothing more than a conditioning practice to allow myself to not become to attached to the results itself but rather the wanting to do that practice. iv spent a long time training my body and mind, and currently am fairly new to this deeper sense of energy. My teacher would make me sit, stand and walk doing different things to loosen the muscles and regulate the mind. under his teaching he would make students stand in qigong posture for the entire session, at first i thought it was about discipline but then found out it was to allow my body to become relaxed in all forms of practice before even glimpsing at the energy awareness. if what im doing is something that is truly working then my previous training under his teachings was all for something that is now beginning to pay off.

Thank you! much appreciated

Thank you! In what way do they not receive any benefits from it is something im wondering?

Thank you for the advice! I do actually do that. I do this both still and moving for circulation.

Thank you for the suggestion i will be sure to try it out under my willow tree during my next practice

Thank you! Yes iv had a lot of magnetic vibration sensations down there too. i do chakra work also but nothing more than spinal opening and chakra cultivation through seated meditation using awareness only rather than spinal movements, so i feel a lot down there anyway. The energy has began to move during practice, it does spread out to the kidneys and for some reason, it seems to be pushing up into the solar plexus area causing the area to feel very much like a ball of magnetic energy with a little heat, but i can feel the heat wants to move up into it. for now what iv been doing is circulating it through walking meditation rather than allowing it to move into the solar plexus. So when it begins to move shall i just allow it to do so and keep awareness on where its going naturally or do i also do a circulation to move energy

It's hardly frying yourself if its kept in one place that is supposed have such effects, you will only do damage if you begin to overheat the organs. Where i live we had a qigong teacher who sadly passed away due to old age, when i was learning with him i was learning at his classes, we had worked with conditioning, movements and regulation. all of this has allowed me to connect to energy very effectively so hardly a newbie, i would say more a beginners stage but not a newbie. just because i have a few posts on here does not show what is known outside of here, considering without a qigong teacher to guide me, i have to now result to finding other methods of guidance with things i have to yet learn about. nothing ignorant about practice and the willingness to learn really is there.

Hi Everyone! I recently began doing some thinking into taoism and would like to know if anyone has any suggestions for books i could research on and study for becoming spiritually immortal through taoism? I'm also wondering if anyone here has yet completed the theory of growing a spiritual body through doing 3-6 months of jing work, 9 months of chi work and 13 years of shen work? im interested to know what differences are made from doing this that show noticeably Thanks

Hi Everyone! A few years back i accidently discovered my torus field through a self-made meditation routine, the experience was extremely intense and somewhat psychedelic. the experience i had was as if my entire body become coated and surrounded by pure magnetic energy that came out of the crown and then moved over and around my entire body until the energy surrounded me like a bubble, i could literally feel this energy as if it was no different to the skin on my body, a very loud humming as present during this that then become more settled when the coating of the energy had finished, at this point i could feel myself being placed in and out of my body like an astral projection type of feeling and then the only way i can explain is the world itself would rise and sink very quickly, i could feel this too, i stayed in the same place but i can feel that reality itself was moving up and down rapidly. and no, no drugs were present during this meditation lol i actually taught this to many people and they all had pretty much the same experiences as i did. the after effects of this are very potent too, me and others experienced trembling for about 4 hours straight, eyes would sting as if smoke was in the eyes that would last for about 4 hours also. after these effects died off the amount of energy that could be felt was so strong, as if the entire body was one big magnetic generator and the flow of energy deep within was pumping strong like the blood flow after doing a long work out or run. I'm wondering if theirs any actual form of meditation that allows one's awareness to connect to the torus field? My method consists of a lot of work to achieve and take a long time to be able to reach this state of consciousness, on average the meditation i made take about 2 hours plus to be able to activate the awareness that connects with the torus field and am wondering if theirs anything that could lead to this much quicker than my method?

no offence taken, i do know myself that this area of energy practice can in fact cause other forms of energy to feed off of you as iv seen this in others, but from my own personal experiences with this i feel that this is nothing more than a demonstration of what is going on inside, the more awareness one has within also has the same level on the external energies. of course knowing how to do this stuff properly is the main point however the better you are at the internal stuff the better you are on the external stuff. the way i achieve this is by using the same methods of internal work but in reverse, instead of moving and cultivating energy within i do this externally and this is what causes the pk to work, so its just like doing a qigong practice but rather than inwards cultivation its outwards if that makes sense. although this area is a distraction i do feel its a good way to get people to see the real goals and why they even wanted to start working with energy in the first place, i see more and more a lot of people placing more concentration into this, so i teach it and through that everyone so far i have taught has realised that although this area of it is interesting and fun to do it serves no real purpose at all, unless you wish to use it to integrate with healing, so even though it has its bad points it also has its good ones. Take for example all of my students have spent time trying to do this to find no results, i teach them that its not going to work unless they work on the internal and deeper stuff, they do this and find that they spend more time working with the pk more and it then dies or becomes very weak, this is the first lesson i teach that actually comes into use of learning something important. i explain that the reason they could do it was because they focused more energy on building up their development to make it work and then when this became less interesting to them because they could now do pk it then slowly but surely starts to not work effectively. So far all of my students have gone from wanting so called power and to be able to do things others cant, to then going to understanding that this is just a reflection of how well they can cultivate within and the interest to work with pk becomes less and less interesting because they know that they will just spend a lot of time cultivating to just be able to move objects and in result be placed back to the area they first started at.

The videos he's making are real for sure, i myself have spent a lot of time developing such things but i always find that its nothing more than a distraction, to be fair iv actually taught this to a lot of people and have always said that it is nothing more than a distraction. As for evolved ministry itself i would stay away from them, i was once offered a job with them to teach but i did not accept due to them not willing to pay and want me to do hours of daily work for nothing. This school was manifested over months of backstabbing planning to steal students from another school called avatar energy mastery institute, grubb used to work with this school and whilst doing so created a small amount of committed followers who would then later on attempted to destroy aemi! Monk who owned aemi was known for being unstable and also know for pushing his development too far too fast and we all know that with psychological issues this is not a good thing at all, when monk had an episode grubb then took his advantage to try and steal as many students as possible and try to recruit the best and most gifted students of aemi for free. That retreat video is not evolved ministry but an aemi retreat that they seem to use as their own, yes grubb was teaching in this video but the students were all aemi and not ministry. I could go on and personally attack this guy over and over due to my own experiences with him but id rather not waste my energy doing so, all i say is this, if you really want to explore this stuff and feel ministry is for you, good luck! because my time in knowing him iv seen nothing more than split personality, ego driven, delusion and lies.

Thank you for the help! these devices look very interesting indeed!

I'm just reading up on this form of meditation now thank you!

Hi Everyone! Since i started working with qigong i have had a lot of experiences with seeing the external energy surrounding me, during a whole body breathing i can see what i think are the meridian channels, points and smaller centers but only during a whole body breathing exercise. iv also had experiences of seeing the energy being emitted out of the skin and waves around when i move, both of these experiences are around the arms and not the rest of the body. iv also had times when iv been doing a seated upper dan tien meditation and my misses can see the pale white substance surrounding my head. Im wondering has anyone else ever experienced such things? i know seeing the cloud of chi surround us is normal for very deep states of meditation but have never experienced that, iv only experienced seeing the ch of my body rather than whats surrounding me Thanks Lee

Hi Everyone. Iv been trying to find some good books that go into great detail about the 3 dan tiens, im looking for both modern and ancient wisdom about the three treasures but can't find any good reads for them anywhere. everything i seem to find is basic and stuff i already seem to know myself. I do a lot of research and the goal is to try and manifest certain things though working with the dan tiens, for example.. i figured out that by using the laogong and the lower dan tien together you can push, pull and unbalance people using both very small amounts of physical touch and non at all, since then i have been very eager to find some other things that can be achieved through certain meridian and centers. my goals aren't to abuse the energy system but rather explore it deeper and have an understanding about myself and what can be achieved, plus its very interesting stuff for sure! Thanks Lee

Thank you for the suggestions everyone!