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The Four Heavenly Ministers( 四御 Siyu ), including the Great Jade Emperor ( 玉皇大帝 Yuhuang Dadi ), the Middle Heaven Great Emperor of the North Pole Star of Purple Subtlety ( 中天北極紫微大帝 Zhongtian Beiji Ziwei Dadi ), the Great Heavenly Emperor of the Highest Palace of Polaris ( 勾陳上宮天皇大帝 Gouchen Shanggong Tianhuang Dadi ) and the Imperial God of Earth ( 后土皇地祇 Houtu Huang Diqi ), are four deities in charge of all things in Heaven and Earth under the Three Pristine Ones ( 三清 Sanqing ). The Great Jade Emperor is the master of the ten thousand spirits. The Middle Heaven Great Emperor of the North Pole Star of Purple Subtlety, as the Stellar Sovereign ( 星君 Xingjun ) of the Purple Subtlety Constellation, is situated in Middle Heaven ( 中天 Zhongtian ) and is the master of all the stars. The Great Heavenly Emperor of the Highest Palace of Polaris, which is composed of four stars left of the Imperial Polar Constellation, is located at the Pole Star as the pivot of heaven. The Imperial God of Earth is the center of Heaven and Earth; it had a a male form before the Tang dynasty and acquired a female form during Wu Zetian's reign. Queen Pan of the Song Emperor Zhenzong built a temple on Mt Song for the worship of the Great Holy Earth Queen of Mysterious Heaven ( 后土玄天大聖后 Houtu Xuantian Da Sheng Hou ). Emperor Hui, in the seventh year of the Zhenghe Era, honored the spirit with the title "Imperial Earth Queen Who Receives and Follows Heavenly Laws and Promotes Kind Virtue" ( 承天效法厚德光大后土皇地祇 Chengtian Xiaofa Houde Guande Huang Diqi ). Since then, the Earth Goddess has always been depicted as a female. Since the Song dynasty, owing to the promotion of the Jade Emperor in position and function in the Daoist pantheon, he is often classified in some Daoist scriptures outside of the Four Heavenly Ministers, which are then listed as the Heavenly Emperors of the four poles of the cardinal directions. They are called the North Pole Emperor of Purple Subtlety ( 北極紫微大帝 Beiji Ziwei Dadi ), the South Pole Emperor of Longevity ( 南極長生大帝 Nanji Changsheng Dadi ), the Heavenly Emperor of the Supreme Ultimate ( 太極天皇大帝 Taiji Tianhuang Dadi ), and the East Pole Emperor of Blue Essence ( 東極青華大帝 Dongji Qinghua Dadi ). Contemporary Daoism has returned to the pre-Song identification of the Four Heavenly Ministers.

@Daemon Can't say I have the foggiest what all the quotes you linked after quoting my post have to do with it. I made a specific point. Maybe you misunderstood me?

Reminded me of an episode I just read in a novel where the main female protagonist tells the main male protagonist, as he grabs a gun getting ready to face some potentially dangerous people, "oh no! I don't believe in guns!" The guy then takes her hand, puts the gun in her palm and closes her fingers around it. "What are you doing?" she recoils. "I'm trying to convince you that guns exist. They are real. You may like or dislike them, but it's something that is there, its existence does not depend on your believing or not believing in them. And those other guys have them, you better believe it." Quoting from memory. QAnon was created by someone somewhere for some purpose. And it doesn't matter if one believes or doesn't believe in QAnon -- if it was created by more people than one secretly agreeing to create this kind of online presence, toward whatever goals, it's a conspiracy, by legal definition of what a conspiracy is. Not a conspiracy theory. A conspiracy fact. So the main psychological peculiarity of those who "don't believe in conspiracy theories" consists in not believing that whoever they consider the good guys ever conspire in secret toward their goals, but whoever they consider the bad guys do it all the time. The cognitive dissonance goes unnoticed.

And of the North Pole Star of Purple Subtlety, aka The Purple Rose.

For me too, and I was instantly drawn in. Apparently he was a member of some rather herbivorous band, forget its name, which he left to start doing his own thing. And this is the outcome. I read some of the comments and the first one went something like, "don't listen to this while applying makeup -- I started out just intending to make myself look nice for the day and ended up painting myself for battle."

"Here's the way I'm looking at it: 2020 is a 12-episode season of Game of Thrones. And just like every other season, the episode with the epic you’ve-got-to-be-shitting-me battle scene is the second-to-last episode..." -- a random redditor

Posted on my county's Reddit sub

I don't know. Did someone say that? Who was it? Definitely not me. I don't believe in "conspiracy theory/theorist" labels being either semantically or ethically valid terms to express any meaningful thought or sentiment to begin with (please see my post from Friday) -- anymore than I believe in the Stalinist label "enemies of the people" accurately describing any category of people, and "counterrevolutionary activities" as an object of the establishment's wrath of the period having anything to do with any activities (or lack thereof) that used to merit the designation and cost millions their lives; or in McCarthy's definition of "communist" that in most cases targeted people who had nothing whatsoever to do with communism; or the Salem Witches Trial prosecuting and murdering anyone other than ordinary human women labeled "witches"; or in Freud's "penis envy" or "Oedipus complex" and the rest of that cowardly dishonest sell-out banter covering up what he knew about the real cause of many of his patients' problems -- childhood sexual abuse, including incest; or any number of other straw dogs in my path, whether ancient and moldy and falling apart or brand new and shiny. I am in the habit of stepping over them and looking for who throws them in our path and toward what purpose. Sometimes I find out, and it's pretty eye-opening. Sometimes I find out nothing fishy is going on, they're just making those straw dog toys because they're paid to make them. Children need toys to keep them occupied, right? And sometimes the discovery makes my hair stand on end. But don't worry. I don't share those on TDB. That would serve no purpose.

I was only referring to my subjective understanding and experience based on my acquaintance with an entheogen (ayahuasca) which refuses to teach those whose karma is "irredeemable," but on what basis it is decided, I don't know. She "showed" but didn't "tell." As for taoist teachers, their views on karma vary widely, and taoists of different schools may disagree with each other, but generally it is thought of as a kind of accumulation, of either merit (toward return to balance) or nastiness (toward more and more imbalance). It may be generational or individual. Generational karma may be "irredeemable" -- it causes a kind of transformation in descendants that turns them into, for all purposes, a different species, and you can arrive at a species that is not capable of accumulating merit and restoring balance. An example would be a generation descended from a lineage of genetic manipulations, transhumanism, progressively more invasive man-machine merger. On this road there comes a juncture where the species parts ways with natural biological life and any chance of arriving at a balance with nature disappears. Merit disappears because free will disappears. This kind of karma becomes too overwhelming to correct.

This one is easy for most but not all. Now imagine how much more complex it may be to see a pattern in a much more complex picture of the world itself. Coincidence theorists see disjointed "dots" of events, nothing more. But a trained visionary sees the picture -- it practically jumps out of the background. It's different from imposing a picture that isn't there. This is something routinely done by those who manipulate our picture of reality far more often than by "conspiracy theorists." They continuously supply maps that not only are not the territory but depict a territory that does not exist.

Don't square them for anything unless you have a condition known as pigeon toes in-or toeing, which causes the toes to point inward. In such cases squaring the feet is a corrective maneuver. For everybody else, turning them slightly outward is anatomically and energetically correct.

Thank you. I'm mostly done too, and have zero desire (though not zerostao level zero yet ) to even try to convince anyone of anything if I happen to think they're too far gone. Only when there's a glimmer of hope, when I care, when I despair watching good people get sucked into bad causes, I might try something. Less and less though. Soon to reach absolute zero I'm sure.

If you know the importance in the traditional Chinese culture of the concept of lineage, the point becomes somewhat moot. A lineage is real, and a particular master down the line who embodies it most fully may become famous, venerated, etc.., without having invented that bicycle. It's sort of like a collaboration between individual accomplishment and the accomplishments of all masters that went before. Rarely are they surpassed, but occasionally a sage may come to encompass them all -- to the extent that his or her own personality dissolves into the lineage stream, becomes unimportant. Alternatively, this sage can add enough of his or her own flavor to all that went before in the lineage to amplify its importance. I believe Laozi was an example of this kind of fate for teachings, ideas, and in all likelihood practices of a particular stream of proto-taoist shamanism. Some schools went as far as to deify him as Laojun (Lord Lao), placing him before his lineage and even before creation itself. That's a very interesting concept too, hinting that time is not linear (there's quite a bit of taoist lore dedicated to that subject).

There's deduction and there's induction. Both methods have their place when someone is trying to sort things out. If you have an abundance of evidence but no theory to account for it, you use deduction, i.e. you infer your theory from your evidence. If, on the other hand, you have a theory, but no evidence, you might start looking for evidence -- you use induction. Nothing is necessarily wrong with that -- in fact, many sciences work like that, a theory is proposed and then evidence is collected to prove or disprove it. E.g. a boson is theorized and then a particle collider is built to collect evidence of its existence (or nonexistence). The fallacy would only be committed if you cherry-pick your collected evidence toward corroborating your theory and discard whatever evidence contradicts it. This, indeed, is done very often -- every day in every way -- but not by "conspiracy theorists" exclusively or even predominantly.

I don't use blanket-definition labels -- especially the ones weaponized toward social engineering/mind control purposes. So "conspiracy theory/theorist" without quotation marks is absent from my vocabulary altogether. It is a fubar label. Instead I discern between 1. Unproven or unprovable theories. Most of these are institutionalized, widely accepted, taken for granted and treated as "facts" for all purposes. E.g. the theory that there's hell for those who disobey certain rules and heaven for those who do, that the savior died for our sins, that the messiah is coming, that there's going to be a Judgment Day, etc.. (The much juicier ones omitted, don't want to "go there.") 2. Theories whose acceptance is fully contingent on hearsay -- you have no personal access to the information that would prove or disprove a proposed theory, you take some authority's (or counterauthority's -- whichever is a bigger authority to you personally) word for it on the basis of, essentially, "daddy knows best" indoctrination. Most of what we call "education" and nearly all of our "higher education" is shaped along these lines. Nearly all of our political expertise, ditto. 3. Theories born of misguided minds, ulterior motives, or blatant deception. Self-explanatory. Many in public circulation as "scientific facts" or "political facts" or "facts of history." Take your pick. 4. Theories born of tacit knowledge -- "something fishy is going on here." These cover a wide range, from a lot of wrong tracks to a lot of right tracks. Getting on the right track is deadly dangerous in many cases and those who get on the right track are more often than not quite efficiently discouraged from proceeding via a wide array of tried and true methods, and occasionally eliminated. 5. Theories born of perceptive or imaginative minds that at some point stop being theories and become reality. E.g. the theory that women are not intellectually inferior to men used to be considered a "radical conspiracy." The equality of races, ditto. I know many people of all races who still think it's a conspiracy theory and that in reality particular races are superior to particular other races. 6. Theories based on divine or otherwise "supernatural" revelations. These occasionally visit devout mystics, shamans, entheogen users not corrupted by irredeemable karma, and so on. One such theory asserts that we are all one. If it threatened the status quo it would be deemed a conspiracy theory that wrongfully questions the proven reality of individualism, exceptionalism, national interests, etc.. But it doesn't, so it just flies under the radar of social engineering and avoids the label "conspiracy theory." No one cares to "disprove" it because it is practically inconsequential. My point is, I'm trying to convince some of you to get out of the bad company. To stop mistaking your use of the term "conspiracy theory" for a badge of respectability worn by those superior intellects that "don't believe in conspiracy theories." It isn't. It's merely newspeak for crimethink. I.e. a term whose function is to simplify a complex phenomenon to a label that is dispensed toward reward or punishment of particular behaviors. Like "doubleplusungood," this one is utilized as a selection marker toward punishment for crimethink. I would avoid.

Exactly. What I called "negative spaces" or "yin information" -- but it actually has an official name: tacit knowledge. Manipulating that is something that is undertaken and accomplished systemically, via all channels of perception simultaneously. And given that under normal circumstances it constitutes the essence of our very humanity, removing that and slipping in, drop by drop, bit by bit, piece by piece someone else's installations to replace it with all manner of social engineering agendas is the ultimate manipulation technique. In full swing for a very long time -- practically out of control today -- and rife with disastrous outcomes for our tomorrow.

Coincidence?..

Sometimes one has to go deep down the rabbit hole, but sometimes just looking at negative spaces between the lines, right on the surface, is enough. What is not talked about -- what is deleted, ridiculed, not mentioned, debunked, "fact checked," swept under the rug, dismissed without investigation, or labeled "conspiracy theory" -- that's where one needs to look. And since all of it is right on the surface, all that is required to see it is, change one's focus. Should be a cultivator's default skill, right? Didn't your (generic "your") masters, gurus, teachers ever teach you how to do it? I wonder what stopped them... OK then, let me try to introduce you to that particular skill, Changing Your Focus 101. When someone in the media takes hold of your head, clips your eyelids open like in that Clockwork Orange brainwashing scene, and fixes it so you are forced to look in a particular direction -- "look here!! Keep looking here... and now (neck twist) look here! And now here!!" -- ask yourself this simple question. What are you looking away from when you look at what you're prompted to look at?.. Many things only become visible if you focus on negative spaces. Do not ignore the yin of information, the invisible, the hidden, the not loud, the not in your face kind. 99% of reality is yin. Dark matter. And cats can see in the dark.

"A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down in a most delightful way," as Disney taught everybody. It may be the crux of the matter. People, generally, are fitted with ideological brain implants convincing them that demonizing, despising, hating "the other side" (whatever the "dark side" dispensed for the moment happens to be) is all it takes to understand how the game is played. In reality they aren't even pawns. They are snacks served on the side of the chessboard for the players to stay refreshed.

Baal-shar-uzur (Baltasar) "God save the king"

Here's a few examples of exactly those. What do I call them? Small peanuts. The full Monty is never declassified. Still... even small peanuts might give someone a taste -- unless their palate has been rendered comfortably numb by continuously munching on prolefeed. And I'm not offering more than small peanuts because prolefeed withdrawal usually causes severe mental indigestion, which the victim typically tries to alleviate by shooting the messenger.

Per my experience, nowhere in the world is a lack of heartfelt belief in the eternal benevolence and infallibiliby of the corporate/military-industrial/banking overlordship written off (with a default smirk of superiority) as a "conspiracy theory" as successfully as in the US. People who are aware did not become aware in order to They became aware because the global beast chewed up and spat out their lives and the lives of their loved ones. The term "conspiracy theory" introduced into circulation and vigorously promoted as the euphemism for "crimethink" didn't quite catch on everywhere because people have died by the hundreds of millions doing what the global beast told them is right and good and true -- and not everybody, hard as they may try, was able to overcome the cognitive dissonance. Some people are mistaken, some are instinctively resistant to brainwashing without necessarily having the brain power to come up with a viable cognitive alternative, some are merely uneducated or dumb or both, some want to "feel smart and special" -- but they are only a small percentage of those who "don't buy it." The majority of those who are prone to "crimethink" are intelligent, perceptive, avidly and competently engaged in continuos self-education, and traumatized. If you haven't been chewed up by the beast, if no one in your family ever was, you may keep trusting it. But if you weren't deceived and hurt by it, you are the minutest minority in this world. You have no idea yet how a true believer in whatever you truly believe in feels when the object of your true belief shows its blood-dripping fangs from behind the mask of benevolence and infallibility. So enjoy it while it lasts. It won't.

Hi Encephalon, I think it's me who wandered into a conversation. My excuse is, it's the internet.

CMM