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你的建議更加嚴謹 我比較懶 Your advice is more rigorous i'm lazy 這個章節被竄改的地方不多 大致上意義還是跟帛書版差不多 不像帛書版的『致虛,極也,守靜,表也』被改成『致虛極,守靜篤』那就是非常嚴重的竄改了 Not much has been tampered with in this chapter Generally speaking, it is similar to the silk version. Unlike the silk version of "Zhixu, extreme, keep quiet, surface" is changed to "Zhixu, keep quiet", that is a very serious tampering 這個竄改已經嚴重影響到搬運法的其中一本假經典的核心價值 This tampering has seriously affected the core value of one of the fake classics of the handling method
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https://www.juduo.cc/club/1732198.html 我從這篇文章還找到一個重大的價值竄改 而馬王堆帛書,有很多地方和現存的通行本不一樣,比如說,通行本的經典名句“致虛極,守靜篤”,在帛書版中是這樣的:致虛,極也,守靜,表也,二者的區別是很大的,顯然帛書版的修為境界更勝一籌,為什麼這麼說? 因為“守靜”,只是表層功夫,致虛,則心無所住,心無掛礙,自由通透,以達無極。 我認為這一點非常重要,因為搬運法推崇靜,而在老子道德經卻公然反對『靜』 認為『靜』是『表』 有一本造假的太上老君清靜經,並非老子所寫,卻掛上老子的名義 而這段文字的帛書版,卻狠狠的打臉了太上老君清靜經的核心價值 說明了守『靜』是表面功夫 I also found a major value tampering from this article The Mawangdui silk script is different from the existing popular books in many ways. For example, the classic sentence of the popular books "to the extreme of emptiness, keep quiet and earnest", in the silk version is like this: to create the emptiness, to be extreme, to guard Jing, Biao Ye, the difference between the two is very big, obviously the cultivation realm of the silk version is better, why do you say that? Because "keep quiet" is only superficial effort, and if it is empty, then the mind has nowhere to dwell, no hindrance in the mind, freedom and transparency, in order to reach the limitless. I think this is very important, because the moving method respects stillness, while in Laozi Daodejing it is openly opposed to "stillness" Think "keeping quiet" is "surface" There is a fake Taishang Laojun Qingjing Jing, not written by Lao Tzu, but in the name of Lao Tzu However, the silk version of this text severely slapped the core value of Taishang Laojun Qingjingjing. It shows that keeping "quiet" is a superficial effort Commitment to emptiness is infinite
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我還沒有讀那麼仔細 不過以我目前粗略的了解 最大的修改是道的部分和德的部分完全反過來 也就是經典的排列順序被改過 在中國的經典 通常比較核心的價值觀 會放在最前面 比較次要的會放在後面 原來帛書把德放在前面 被現代版改成德在後面 我認為這有一種價值觀被改變了 原來是先有德後有道 但是卻被改成先有道後有德 I haven't read that carefully But with my current rough understanding The biggest modification is that the part of Tao and the part of De are completely reversed That is, the classic sorting order has been changed. classic in china Usually compare core values will be on the front The less important ones will be placed later It turns out that the silk books put virtue first Changed by the modern version to De in the back I think there is a value that was changed It turns out that De comes first But it was changed to have Dao first and then De 就我個人的教學來說 沒有德的人是看不見道的 所以帛書版的老子是符合一個道家老師遇到學生的教學順序 但是現代版的老子卻改成不是以人為本 而是以宇宙論為本 這樣價值觀就受到很大的改變了 As far as my personal teaching is concerned Those without virtue cannot see the Tao Therefore, the Lao Tzu in the silk version is in line with the teaching sequence of a Taoist teacher who meets his students. But the modern version of Lao Tzu has been changed to not be people-oriented , but to be cosmology-oriented. The values have been greatly changed 從一種以人為出發的內省態度,被修改為一種脫離人的宇宙論 From an introspective attitude based on human beings, modified to a cosmology out of human
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我稍微有點看懂你們在討論什麼了 從我的角度看到的第三章 是說統治者的態度會影響人民 這個第三章在帛書當中屬於第四十七節 反過來說,如果人民會爭賢名,那就是因為統治者推崇賢者 如果人民偷盜,那是因為統治者以稀有的貨物為貴 也就是說人民的偏差是源自統治者的偏差態度 是一種反求諸己的態度 I kind of understand what you're talking about Chapter 3 from my point of view It means that the attitude of the ruler affects the people This third chapter belongs to the forty-seventh verse in the silk book Conversely, if the people will strive for the reputation of the virtuous, it is because the rulers respect the reputation of the virtuous If the people steal, it's because the rulers value rare goods That is to say, the deviation of the people is due to the deviation of the ruler's attitude is a self-seeking attitude
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Buddha did start with the breath But he didn't stop breathing for long he evolves quickly
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有內觀基礎的人來練習無為丹道是非常適合的 It is very suitable for those who have the foundation of Vipassana to practice Wuwei Dan Dao
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The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
沒有道德的信任度,就沒有真相 Without moral trust, there is no truth -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
說太多沒用 Talking too much is useless for us -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
就這樣吧 道不同不相為謀 So be it Different road non-phase plan 把人想得太善良是我的錯 It's my fault for thinking people are too kind -
本來非二元就不是用在思想上面的 而是用在二禪定進入三禪定的狀態 等於是二禪定進入三禪定的一個關鍵 Originally non-dual is not used in thinking Instead, it is used in the state of the second jahna and the third jahna. It is the key to entering the third jahna from the second jahna
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The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
但是貪欲過重的人 是沒辦法這樣練的 因為這樣練有一個很大的前提 就是能夠性住氣自回 沒有性功的底子 滿腦子貪欲謊言的人 是沒辦法這樣練的 因為這些練法,完全是道法自然 意的清淨非常重要 帶著嚴重的執念把氣固定在下腹部 會嚴重污染意 不可能練出清淨的意土 所以人品非常重要 沒有好的德性是沒辦法修道的 But those who are too greedy There's no way to practice like this Because this practice has a big premise is to be able to hold back no foundation A man full of greed and lies There's no way to practice like this Because these exercises are completely natural Purity of mind is very important With serious obsession to fix the qi in the lower abdomen will seriously pollute It is impossible to cultivate a pure mind So character is very important Without good virtue, there is no way to cultivate Dao 所以老子道德經的原始版本 並非把道放在前面 而是把德放在前面 沒有德就沒有道 So the original version of Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching not putting Dao first but put virtue first Without virtue, there is no Dao -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
當你練出眼前虛空的玄關一竅之後 當你開啟中丹田之後 你就可以遠端感應人的氣 你的氣越純淨 你能感知到的就越清晰 After you have reach the empty space of Xiuan guang in front of your eyes After you open the middle dantian you can remotely sense the Qi of a person The purer your Qi is The clearer you can perceive 你可以收到搬運法練習者下腹部瘋狂的氣動 你可以收到自發功練習者頭頂百會開啟的空洞 你可以收到病人的病氣 你也可以收到跟你一樣,中丹田開啟者的氣 You can receive crazy Qi in the lower abdomen of the carrying method practitioners You can receive the hole opened by the Baihui above the head of the spontaneous gong practitioner You can receive sick Qi from the patient You can also receive the same Qi as you, the opener of the middle dantian -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
你如果想要了解黃庭經 你一定要捨棄下腹部氣感固定練法 採用無為法練出眼前虛空 玄關一竅 這樣才有辦法玄關內練 If you want to understand Huang Tingjing You must give up the lower abdominal Qi sense fixed practice Use Wuwei to reach empty space in front of your eyes Xiuan Guang one Chiao This is the only way to practice Xiuan guang -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
琴心三疊舞胎仙 這句話不是普通人能搞懂的 這是第三階段一陽生的人才能搞懂的 很多人以為下丹田就是氣感集中在下腹部 其實不是 不管是下丹田,中丹田,上丹田,位置都在同一個地方 就是眼前虛空玄關一竅 所謂的上中下丹田只是氣的作用區而已 眼前虛空玄關一竅作用區如果在下丹田,則下丹田會有氣感,同時眼前虛空會有烏肝 作用區如果在中丹田,則中丹田會有氣感,同時眼前虛空會有兔髓 作用區如果在上丹田,則上丹田會有特殊的氣感,會感覺有一股氣從腹部盤旋上升,然後在眼前虛空打開內景 這些內景就是蓮花,霜飛,圓月,胎仙等等 但是如果把眼前虛空當成是下腹部的話,那就是緣木求魚,練上三十年都不會有成就的 Three-layer dance fairy of Qin heart This is not something ordinary people can understand This is the third stage yangshen, only those who reach the third stage yangshen can understand. Many people think that the lower dantian is the concentration of qi in the lower abdomen not actually Whether it is the lower dantian, middle dantian or upper dantian, the location is all in the same place It's just an empty space in front of you The so-called upper, middle and lower dantian is just the function area of qi. If the effect area of the first orifice of the void in front of you is in the lower dantian, the lower dantian will have a sense of qi, and at the same time, there will be black liver in the void in front of you. If the action area is in the middle dantian, the middle dantian will have a sense of qi, and at the same time, there will be rabbit marrow in the void in front of you. If the action area is in the upper dantian, the upper dantian will have a special sense of qi, you will feel a qi circling and rising from the abdomen, and then open the interior scene in the void in front of you. These interior scenes are lotus flower, frost flying, full moon, fetal immortal, etc. But if you think of the void in front of you as your lower abdomen, then you are asking for fish in a tree, and you won't achieve anything after 30 years of practice. -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
只要堅持下腹部氣感的人 都無法看懂黃庭經 也不只黃庭經 道德經 參同契 悟真篇 金剛經 圓覺經 楞伽經 心經 阿含經 ..... 太多了 說不完 心性的障礙加上對氣感的執念 就足以阻擋一切的真相了 想要看見真相 除非要有很大的反省 否則... 對一個有點年紀的人來說 可能下輩子了吧 People who only insist on the feeling of gas in the lower abdomen Can't understand Huang Tingjing Not only Huang Tingjing Tao Te Ching Participate in the contract Enlightenment Diamond Sutra The Enlightenment Sutra Langka Sutra Heart Sutra Ahangjing ..... Too much can't finish Obstacles of xinxing plus obsession with qi sense It's enough to stop the truth -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
沒有態度就沒有真相 -
The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
態度拿出來再說吧 -
http://www.readingtimes.com.tw/ReadingTimes/ProductPage.aspx?gp=productdetail&cid=mcia(SellItems)&id=EX0010 這是我的第一本老子書,是一本漫畫 現在有動畫 This is my first Lao Tzu book, it's a comic There are now animations
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Does any one think that The Tao Te Ching is about writing poetry?
awaken replied to Boundlesscostfairy's topic in Daodejing
絕對不是詩 definitely not poetry -
你們如果被氣功大師騙去練胚胎呼吸 那就真的永遠無法得知真相了 If you are tricked by a qigong master into practicing embryonic breathing Then you will never know the truth.