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Of course you are one of the true teachers, Though you have totally different view of the world from me. You know I can feel you. You don't have daoist view But the real dao can not be talked Different words is ok Same inner world is more important Many people can talk daoist phrases But they don't have a real dao heart That is why we should open the 玄關竅 If we open our 玄關竅, we won't be cheated by the surface of words We can see the truth under the deep water
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I read these version of the first chapter No one talk about the meaning of 噭,徼,竅 常有欲,以觀其徼。 河上公章句第一 徼,歸也。常有欲之人可以觀世俗之所歸趣也。 ○徼,音叫,又古吊反,即竅字。 In 河上公章句 version, he think 徼 should be 竅 There is a very important 竅 in daoist cultivation, 玄關一竅 玄關一竅 is mentioned in chapter 6, too. This chapter mention about two important stages of cultivation , 竅 and Hun dun. Hun dun, no intention, 無欲,no self 無我, is Ying 玄關竅,the entrance of wonder, 有欲 with intention, 有我 with the existing of self, is Yang Experience....... Not easy to write Unless you can practice wu Wei like me After you spent many years in wu Wei You can be very easy to find that all your cultivation just separate into two stages Yang and Ying When Yang, 玄關 is always there When Ying, Hun dun is always there No doubts Very clear
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Good plan. My English is poor, but my Chinese is good. And I am a practical practitioner. I hope I can provide a different view.
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After you open your 玄關竅, you can receive outside medicine 外藥 very easily. You will know what is the difference between 外藥 and 內藥 inside medicine. If you think I can receive chi just because I am a female. You lost the chance to know the real daoist world. 谷神不死,是謂玄牝。玄牝之門,是謂天地根。綿綿若存,用之不勤。
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I am not talking about female or male energy. I am talking about 竅 開關展竅 Open 玄關竅 玄關竅 is the most secret part of daoist cultivation. If you open your 玄關竅,you can receive chi as me. I can receive not because I am a female. I have some male students. After they start to open 玄關竅,they can receive chi. Please don't misunderstand 玄關竅 as female energy. It is very difficult to find a teacher to teach you how to open 玄關竅 I teach anyone for free. Just to help to open your eyes of daoist cultivation Hope you can see the real daoist world.
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To open the heart entrence is not difficult. What you need just a direction. The direction is easy to tell, but not easy to real cultivate.
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There is no secret method in my teaching. I teach a direction. The direction of real cultivation. So I will read your diaries to make sure you are on the right way. You are not mislead in the wrong direction. The concepts of explanation just help you to walk in the right direction. I have taught many students. Few can insist for long time. Most people just come to ask questions and don't write any diaries. I don't teach these kind of people. The people who chase the knowledges and don't do cultivation will lose the direction. You must have the wisdom to know this first. My students are all very wise. I just teach them the direction. I don't teach them wisdom.
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Ming Stages/Replenishing Yuan Qi/Ming Gong
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
Chi is not the first one to cultivate. Shen is the first one to deal with. Nei jin said 治神,deal with Shen 黃元吉 huang uan jii said 滅動心,不滅照心,make the movement heart disappear, don't make the mirror heart disappear. Enlightenment is the first step of daoist cultivation. 凡鉛 ordinary lead 真鉛 real lead What is the difference between ordinary lead and real lead? Enlightenment the true heart is the first step of dao The right direction of your heart -
Ming Stages/Replenishing Yuan Qi/Ming Gong
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
Completely agree with you. But most people can't understand this, unless they spent 20 years at least to know the cultivation market. I spent 15 years. I am sure I am not the most stupid one. I know some friends who spent 30 years. -
Excuse me. Can you tell us why your heart block so badly? I hope that Someone who seems to know everything about the enlightenment or sudden enlightenment can really enlightenment. Not just know the knowledges of sudden enlightenment or sudden enlightment. I can receive your chi from your words. I hope you can enlightment first before you teach your students what is enlightenment. Sorry to say this. I hope you don't get angry about me. I hope you can pay more time to get enlightenment. Enlightment is not a dead word. It is a direction. If you really enlightment you can see enlightenment in many different texts that there is no any enlightment word in it.
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I hope I can contribute the other informations that you can't get from translation texts. Shuowen Jiezi said 悟,覺也 It means Enlightenment is awareness I know in English Enlightenment and awareness is different But in ancient china We can see from Shuowen Jiezi Enlightenment is awareness So Chinese use 覺悟 enlightenment and awareness as a phrase. Nei Jin said heart open eyes bright 心開目明 is 悟 enlightenment So you can see 開悟 The word 開 means 心開 heart open In 莊子,we also can see 其寢不夢 When he sleep, he doesn't dream Sleeping without dreams is the biggest characteristic of opening heart. We can see 覺悟 enlightenment and awareness the phrase was used before Buddhism came to China. 荀子.成相:「不覺悟,不知苦。」 Xun Kuang https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xun_Kuang If we don't enlightenment and awareness, we don't know what is pain.
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So you think "enlightenment" is a Buddhism word? I think "enlightenment" is obviously an English word. 悟,is a Chinese word. The word 悟 is earlier than Buddhism . Before Buddha was born, 悟 is already there. Nei Jin, was written before Buddha was born. We can see 悟 was mentioned in nei Jin. Nei Jin is not a pure Chinese medicine book. It include dan dao. In old Chinese tradiction, many things is the same thing, the same core. Medicine, yi Jin, dao..... So we can see 悟 in nei Jin. Another book, 說文解字,Shuowen Jiezi,also was written earlier then buddism classics. It mentions about 悟 The concept of 悟 is used a lot in buddism. The speed of 悟 was discussed in buddism, too. I think it doesn't mean 悟 is only used by buddism. This word was created in very ancient china. When buddism was spread to China, the translator used 悟 to translate the concept. It doesn't mean the ancient dao doesnt have the concept. Let see the word 悟 in ancient shape. There are two "五" above the "心" 五 five 心 heart (五,会意。从二,从乂。“二”代表天地,“乂”表示互相交错。本义:交午,纵横交错) 同本义 [cross] 五,阴阳在天地之间交午也。——《说文》 五 was created by its meaning It was formed by two parts 二 乂 二 means 天 sky 地 earth 乂 means crossed 五 means Ying Yang are crossed between sky and earth. And there are two 五 above 心 There are two layers of Ying Yang crossed above the heart This is the word 悟 created Chinese Daoism don't separate Buddhism brom Daoism. Daoism mix buddism into Daoism. We can see the situation in a famous novel, the journey to the west, 西遊記。
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Agree completely Someone enlightenment very quickly. Someone slowly Someone enlightenment without any teaching. Someone can't enlightenment all his life and always go the wrong direction even if how hard he learned or guess. It is so different in the situation of enlightenment for everyone.
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Riddle Me This
awaken replied to Taoist Texts's topic in Miscellaneous Daoist Texts & Daoist Biographies
There are two kinds of dan dao. The lately dan dao use breathe to build Mco. This way hurt a lot and very dangerous. I know many Chinese hurt body by Mco. One of friends even emptysis. The early dan dao don't do that. -
Ren du:convection, like the steam of boiled water in a teapot Zhong Mai: swirl, like a typhoon The convection in ren du can be transformed to the swirl in Zhong Mai. But it needs a process to let the transform work - Hun-Dun. There are two layers in Zhong Mai. One is not in the emptiness. Another is in the emptiness. When chi of Zhong Mai is not in the emptiness, it has three kinds of light. The first one is black liver. Black liver looks like the light of north pole. The second one is rabbit marrow. Rabbit marrow looks like full moon, but smaller and weaker, and can last for several months. The last one is point light. The point can be very bright if the chi is very strong. All these three kinds of light have a sameness that they can appear again and again. Another layer in Zhong Mai is in the emptiness. The characteristic of the light in the emptiness is never repeated again. It changes every time. The only thing that stay the same is the state of stillness-- 無色界the world of formlessness, the emptiness 虛空境 The process of golden dan, 卍,geometric pattern , flying stars, mandala, full moon, red hot sun, light human shadow, light human beings....
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How much time do you need to recieve a transmission?
awaken replied to A.A.Khokhlov's topic in Daoist Discussion
Thinking can't make you really understand forever. How long have you cultivated? -
Courious, confused, misunderstand, etc I saw a better guess, 見性, Jian-xin 勸君門外修身者 端念思維此道心 Advise the people who cultivate the body outside Upright the thoughts , the heart of dao From Lu-don-bin
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What I said about this ren du and Zhong Mai is to invite you to practice the Wu Wei. But not to let you get into another maze. I am inviting you to experience the difference between ren du convection and Zhong Mai swirl. I don't want you to to believe me or fight me. I hope you don't stay in the stage of concepts. If you show your attitude to have the interest to experience, I am very glad to be your guide. If you just want to ask but not cultivate, I am very sorry to say I don't agree you act this way. Before you ask , you need to have a true heart first. If you don't have it, please look inside yourself and see what is going on. To find your own heart is your job, not mind. I am just a guide. You must experience by your self.
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If you don't 悟 Wu your heart It is very hard to let you know it. Unless I am sure you are ready to know the truth, I won't reply you. You should start from the first step.
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頓悟,suddenly wu, is from zhang zon 禪宗 In fact, there is no 漸悟 gian-wu in zhang Zhang zon talk about 頓悟 because many people we're mislead by a lot of "methods" Yes, secret methods again. So suddenly wu is wu Zhang zon try to tell people to 悟 your real heart is the first step of cultivation The secret methods are not the first step of cultivation. In daoist, we can see in nei Jin and the preface of 悟真篇 that 悟 is also the first step of cultivation The people who like to chase the secret methods don't think 悟 is the first step and the most important part of cultivation.
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岐伯曰:請言神。神乎神。耳不聞。目明心開。而志先慧然獨悟。口弗能言。俱視獨見。適若昏。昭然獨明。若風吹云。故曰神。 Chi-Bo said, please talk about Shen, what Shen is, no hearing, eyes are bright and the heart is open. And willing 志 first , have the wisdom to wu 悟. Can not talk by mouth. All the sight is only seeing. Like dazed, but very clear and bright . Like the wind blowing. This is What Shen is . In nei Jin, we can see wu 悟 is the first step to cultivate. And it described what is Shen. Breathe skills are not always the first step of cultivation in ancient China. Daoist cultivation changes a lot from min dynasty , practicing chi and Mco became the first step of daoist cultivation. Many ancient Chinese cultures changed in the late China. But in the ancient China, daoist cultivation is very different from now. We can see this point from Su-woon.
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Why are The people who don't know anything about 悟 are talking about 悟? When did 悟 become a knowledge? The people who know 悟 won't attack people in groups. The people who know 悟 won't talk like making a war. The people who know 悟 have a deep feeling and a lot of good chi. Let's see what Chinese talk about 悟,not a Russian. This part is from ancient Chinese Too difficult to translate for me 悟彼蟋蟀唱。——《文选·谢混游西池诗》 慧然独悟。——《素问·八正神明论》 wise , along, 悟,have the wisdom to 悟 This book is nai Jin , the oldest Chinese medicine classic, Su-woon 未悟见出,意不自得。——《后汉书·张酺传》 悟已往之不谏。——晋· 陶渊明《归去来兮辞》悟 the past is not .... 闻而悟之。——明· 刘基《诚意伯刘文成公文集》 listen and 悟 it 悟前狼假寐。——《聊斋志异·狼三则》 悟大光明法。——清· 全祖望《梅花岭记》悟 the method of the big bright ---------- (3) 又如:觉悟(由迷惑而明白;由模糊而认清);悟心(悟性。对事物理解和分析的能力);悟宗(明了、会通佛理之宗旨);悟悦(因了悟而喜悦);悟理(领会道理);悟物(了悟物理);悟明(了悟真言);悟佛(了悟佛理);悟禅(参悟禅理);悟道参玄(宗教语。领会和推究宗教中玄妙之理) From confused to understand (4) 觉醒;觉悟。通“寤”。睡醒 [awake] Awake Awareness 行事,适有卧厌不悟者,谓此为天所厌邪?——王充《论衡·问孔》 凄凄节序高,寥寥心悟永。——江淹《杂体诗》 怛惊悟兮无闻。——《文选·潘岳·寡妇赋》 (5) 又如:悟觉(觉悟);悟门(觉悟的门径) (6) 启发;使觉悟 [arouse] 冀悟迷惑之心。——《论衡·对作》 (7) 又如:悟主(使主上觉悟);悟发(启发) (8) 通“晤”。相对 [meet] 过耳悟目之交。——《潜夫论·明忠》 悟言不如罢,从夕至清朝。——《文选·谢惠连·泛湖归出楼中玩月》 (9) 又如:悟对(聚会) (10) 通“牾”。抵触 [conflict] 大意无所拂悟,…。——《韩非子》 国无刑罚,则百姓之悟相侵也立见。——《吕氏春秋·荡兵》 人不敢悟视。——《战国策·燕策三》 大忠无所拂悟,辞言无所击排。——《史记·老子韩非列传》 今人卒得鬼刺痱悟,杀雄鸡以傅其心上。——《风俗通议·雄鸡》 There are a lot of meaning about 悟 悟 is not a patent of Buddhism 悟 is from ancient China The Daoism is from ancient China. Of course, 悟 is a part of the Daoism.
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You are attacking me. You use "barking" the word. Did your school teach you how to bark?
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You said 悟 is not enlightment. Enlightment is translated as 悟 in Chinese. You mean Chinese 悟 has different meaning in your school?
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四事誰能悟 who can enlightment the four things 三乘教愈明three religions are more clear 達斯玄妙理reach the magical principles 便是證圓成just prove the round succeed Sorry, I can't translate better. Please find another version yourself if you need. From 王重陽wang chown yang Who say there is no enlightment in Daoist