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How much time do you need to recieve a transmission?
awaken replied to A.A.Khokhlov's topic in Daoist Discussion
http://m.blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_86bcbe4e0101kz5f.html “据我的经验according to my experience,几十年来,for several decades几乎连打好百日基础的人都没有。almost no one can make the basis well如果这个基础(百日筑基)都没有的话,if you don't have the basis所有理论都是空谈。——all the theories are all nonsense 南怀瑾” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nan_Huai-Chin Can you tell us how is your foundation now? Have you built it now? -
there is no a Wu-Liu pai exit in history and reality life
awaken replied to awaken's topic in Daoist Discussion
Attacking people by name is the only thing you learn from your true teacher? Except being proud, what can you provide anything valuable to prove you really learn something from your true teacher? I just don't like to see people eat junk dao and tell the truth, did I hurt you? Why are you so rude ? What are fighting for? Money? What do you want to get? Did I stop your tricks? If you are not happy about life, you just change it. You should not attack someone. Attacking people is your dao? Stop doing the stupid things. You won't get better if you keep on attacking me. I won't stop telling the truth. You have no ability to be a cultivitor. How can one do meditation when his heart full of violence? How can a blind man ask to see the light? It is impossible to see the truth. Your mind is not ready. Training the heart is the first step you should learn. But I think you don't train your heart, or you won't say something so rude. How terrible a blind heart can be. -
There are two kind of Mco One is made by breathe. If you breathe in 命門,you can feel the Mco Turing. One is produced by non-interfere. It happens in 深定 stillness deeply, no ego The electricity run in deep bone, the spinal cord Before it happen, body lose feeling, no breathe The two kinds f Mco are totally different One is made by breathe One appear without breathe
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Talking bad about good things
awaken replied to sillybearhappyhoneyeater's topic in Daoist Discussion
You can say something good instead attacking people in name. -
Oh, it will be very expensive. I know someone in Taiwan teach wu Liu methods . The teacher receive 50,000 Nt dollars for one method, the beginning level. I don't know how much their price is in western countries.
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Talking bad about good things
awaken replied to sillybearhappyhoneyeater's topic in Daoist Discussion
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Kids have a lot of chi. They are very easy to have chi. They can have chi in one second. But they can't last too long. They even don't need any methods. just concentrate in hands Can have a feeling of electricity Very soon Some kids even can see bright light without any teaching But when they grow up They will lose the ability little by little
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Golden elixir is difficult to reach. Golden elixir is formed in the emptiness. But before golden elixir, there are many kind of dan. For example, 黍米丹 Liu yi min classified dan into two kinds. One is 小還丹 small dan. One is 大還丹 big dan These two kinds are totally different.
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Talking bad about good things
awaken replied to sillybearhappyhoneyeater's topic in Daoist Discussion
If you believe wu Liu is right, you should prove why wu Liu is right. The only thing I saw is selling the true teacher and secret methods. Dan dao is the treasure for all human beings, not for selling. Not to be twisted by some people. Not to move the post heaven chi. The most important part of dan dao is the 玄關 We should focus on how to open 玄關 Not to make another religion -
鐵牛耕地種金錢,刻石兒童把貫穿。 一粒粟中藏世界,半升鐺內煮山川。 白頭老子眉垂地,碧眼胡僧手托天。 若問此玄玄會得,此玄玄外更無玄。 The poem in nei Jin tu In the end of the poem talk about 玄關Shaun guan. After Mco , 玄關 appear. If one know what is 玄關, then he start to go into the world of dan dao.
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Talking bad about good things
awaken replied to sillybearhappyhoneyeater's topic in Daoist Discussion
What is the truth of Wu Liu? Except the true teacher? So the only truth is the belief of the true teacher? It sounds like a religion. I heard many crazy things that people believe the true teacher and would die for their true teacher. And they will provide a lot of amazing stories to prove their teacher has super power. What their teacher teach is to surrender to him. -
Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
有眼力的實修者方知伍柳之荒謬 -
Talking bad about good things
awaken replied to sillybearhappyhoneyeater's topic in Daoist Discussion
Some friends tried Wu Liu methods and get hurt. I tried it before. It is not Dan dao. The methods are collecting chi into ren du to form a bright light. And move the the light in ren du. It is one of qi gung. It is not Dan dao. But they claim they are Dan dao school and advertise a lot to ask people to pay money to their true teacher. That is the problem. I just told the truth. You have the right to decide. -
Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
Yes, you should show your wisdom and give up attacking someone personal. We only see your violence and desire to control everything. We can't see your wisdom. If you think cultivation is something logical, how can you except Wu Liu pai has any wisdom? Cultivation is something based on experience, not by thinking or guessing. You "think and guess" cultivation but not practice it. How can you except anyone believe you? -
Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
道之形象,真一難圖。變而分布,各自獨居。類如雞子,白黑相符,縱橫一寸,以為始初。四肢五臟,筋骨乃俱。彌歷十月,脫出其胞。骨弱可卷,肉滑若飴 子藏母胞。真人至妙,若有若無。髣髴太淵,乍沈乍浮。退而分布,各守境隅。采之類白,造之則朱。鍊為表衛,白裏真居。方圓徑寸,混而相拘。先天地生,巍巍尊高。旁有垣闕,狀似蓬壺。環匝關閉,四通踟躕。守禦密固,遏絕奸邪。曲閣相連,以戒不虞。可以無思,難以愁勞。神氣滿室,莫之能留。守之者昌,失之者亡。動靜休息,常與人俱。 Please find the translation by yourself. -
Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
I didn't see anyone attack wu Liu pai. I saw many wu Liu practicers attacked others. Wu Liu misunderstand the golden dan. They think 黍米 is golden dan. But 黍米 is 黍米, not golden dan. It is a very clear truth. If you reach there. Dan dao is not a religion. If you treat wu Liu as a religion, you are not qualify to talk in the dao forum. You believe in blind, not in the fact. These days , I emailed a lot with the daoist author in China, 高帥 Gau Shuai. If you can read Chinese, you can googled his articles. You will learn a lot from his articles. -
Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
But no answers Actually, there are a lot of answers in many classics. But people don't believe that is the answer. Because it is too impossible for them to believe it If you can reach the emptiness, You will get the real answers All you heard from others lead a lot of doubts So why don't you give up all the methods, And follow the rules of wu Wei Then you will have a chance to know the answer If you know the answer, You won't want to tell people like you now You will know that if you tell them the truth They won't get the truth They only get more questions Endless questions -
You are not prepared to learn dao.
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Question for Wu Li Pai'ists and other people too.
awaken replied to SeekerOfHealing's topic in Daoist Discussion
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About necessity of having a true Teacher
awaken replied to A.A.Khokhlov's topic in Daoist Discussion
如其未明本性,则犹滞于幻形 If you don't know the self Xing, you are just like staying in illusion. -
About necessity of having a true Teacher
awaken replied to A.A.Khokhlov's topic in Daoist Discussion
Zhang bou duan 張伯端 learned almost every kinds of knowledge. A real daoist cultivator 上知天文,下知地理 He never limited himself in only daoist range. Dao can be found in everything. 嗟夫!人身难得,光景易迁,罔测修短,安逃业报?不自及早省悟,惟只甘分得终,若临歧一念有差,堕于三涂恶趣,则动经尘劫无有出期,释老以性命学开方便门,教人修炼以逃生死。释氏以空寂为宗,若顿悟圆通,则直超彼岸,如其习漏未尽,则尚循于有生。老氏以炼养为真,若得其要枢,则立跻圣位,如其未明本性,则犹滞于幻形。其次《周易》有穷理尽性致命之词,鲁语有毋意、必,固,我之说,此又孔子极臻于性命之奥也。然其言之常略而不至于详者,何也?盖欲序正人伦,施仁义礼乐之教,故于无为之道未尝显言,但以命术寓诸易象、性法混诸微言耳。至于庄子推穷物类逍遥之性,孟子善养浩然之气,皆切几之。迨夫汉魏伯阳引易道交垢之体作《参同契》,以昭大丹之作用,唐忠国师于《语录》首序老庄言,以显至道之本来如此,岂非教虽分三,道乃归一? 奈何没世缁黄之流,各自专门,互相非是,致使三家宗要迭没邪歧,不得混一而同归矣 釋老Buddha 老氏Lao ze 周易 yii Jin 孔子 孟子 莊子 教雖分三,道乃歸一 There are three different teaching, but dao is all in one Means different teachings have the same dao. -
Thank you for supporting me. For me, what I talk about is only one sentence. 應無所住而生其心 This sentence was told by Buddha. And it touched Huineng one thousand and three hundred years ago. These words made a school in the world. This school is still very famous now. 禪宗 The teaching from Zhang bou duan not only daoist, but also include Buddhism. I was also touched by all these ancient achievers. What they tried to told us by words is very true. If we give up all our desire, and keep a mirror mind. Their teaching is very clear. Nothing is hidden. All the achievers are very mercy. They did their best to tell us everything. If we give up all the 門戶之見(the secessionism of schools), we can see the great words from many classics.
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For a beginner, it is impossible to see the whole process Even if the teacher use a clear way to explain, The student still can't understand it Only if the students follow the teacher for many years Then he can know some processes But there is a problem How can the student find a "true" teacher? It is always a big problem Buddha learned from two teachers But he found the way by himself Buddha had many students Not each student find the way
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