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May be in in this context the author meant sudden UNDERSTANDING of the nature of one's mind or essence? Rgrds, Ilya

Try to do some physical exercises, before practice, may be it can help. Rgrds, Ilya

Is it the Taoist concept that the spirit remains after death of the body? I thought it is more to Buddism. And again, it seems like MCO does not help significantly to become an immortal...

awaken, may be you could answer my question first about what kind of sitting for 27 years you have mentioned? Otherwise it would be a non-productive discussion. Rgrds, Ilya

Then what kind of "sitting" are you speaking about? I think that it is not the same sitting that was mentioned as "9 years facing the wall".

Thank you TT! Is it also the opinion of awaiken you somehow managed to scan or guess? )) If its only a quote then would be nice if she answers by herself. Rgrds, Ilya

Dear awaiken,As you wrote that you have opened the emptiness, does this mean that you have been sitting 9 years facing the wall? Rgrds, Ilya

Does it contradict somehow with the idea of the topic?

I can not read chinese signs, is it possible to escape this, I guess its not only me who does not understand your messages? Could you translate before posting messages? Rgrds, Ilya

And I thought, what is wrong with me - every time I feel the partner is trying to put some control... its all about testing! Thanks a lot, now I know what is the reason

Maybe there is no reason to train oneself at all?

I guess this text gives us only a general guide what should be done with the heart (xin?). But what if someone needs a concrete method of heart healing or at least yin-yang balance regulation? Rgrds, Ilya

Sudhamma,Thanks for the explanation, but one more question still relays. May be not to you personally, but in general - did anyone managed to produce elixir? As I understand qi gong does not have enough methods to do this, or may be I am mistaken? Rgrds, Ilya

Lu Kuan Yui (may be mistaken as I took russian translation, f.e. see here - http://vipassanaru.narod.ru/LuKuany_Alhimia.pdf). But I guess that there are plenty of things written and not so much thing achievable, because a book is a book. Rgrds, Ilya.

Again, can I ask a question what effects had anyone achieved practicing MCO? I understand that general idea is somewhere between starting qi circulation and making it alive, feeling lower dantian and though making the body healthier. Is there any other reason like "MCO helps to increase energy level" ot smth like this? Rgrds, Ilya

Is this forum about Taoism or about "Is there a school like xxx"? )) There are much more interesting themes to dicuss, f.e. about ming/xing methods and about practice. Rgrds, Ilya

I tried to stand tree, but it took long time to begin to feel anything. How long is it optimal to stand from your point of view? And when? Rgrds, Ilya

I have read some of his works and can say that it helped me a lot to understand the basics of Taoism. May be not so deep as others do, but to some extent, with no doubts. Rgrds, Ilya

Sorry, unfortunately I can't get chineese...

Yes, I see, this will take time to read )).

Thanks! What is the expected effect/result in practicing wu Way dan dao? Health, long life, clear mind, immortality? Rgrds, Ilya

You have a lot of posts. But I'll try to find some rational for it, thank you. Rgrds, Ilya

So you mean that alchemy deals with another substance, different from qi, is it? I've heard about it but mostly took it as some difference like qi-prana etc.

Thanks for the reply, awaken, but I'm confused I didn't get what you mentioned - the terminology is a bit unclear for me. All I did is tried to make a simple qi circle.

Execuse me, is there anything about MCO? I have tried MCO as well as some other methods. The issue was that I felt qi rising through the back to the head, but never felt that qi goes down through the front into dantian. Rgrds, Ilya