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I don't smoke pot or drink. You may have missed the point of my questions. Dawei is partially right in his answer about two different concepts. I am trying to get considerations going here about how concepts ( after a certain point inevitably hinder growth in Tao). I know that you know this from a certain perspective. You started your martial arts with concepts yet at a certain point it became an intuitive art. Good Jazz is another example. Concepts must give way if your are to get to a higher level. You experienced several Masters that showed this ability more than most, and I suspect that in many ways you experience the non-conceptual far more than average. One can not get beyond a certain level without it. Spontaneous improvisation in a high art form, for a lack of a better way to explain. I have experienced it in movement meditation such as Tai chi, I have experienced it in Kriya Yoga and I have experienced it in high stress combat situations where there was no conscious thought. I see these as windows. How about you Mr. Smith?

That was fun! I think most of of us have felt this before: Time seems to slow down, your sense perceptions are heightened – colors are sharper and brighter and each sound seems to ripple right through you. Your mind shifts into a better place. A sense of vibrant aliveness and peace infuse your being. You feel in tune with life, moving with a precision and poise you don’t fully understand but, at the same time would gladly live in forever. You’re in the zone. You’re in flow. Is this being in harmony with Tao? Does conceptualizing, get in the way of attaining that harmony longer term and if so, what is to be done about that?

Is it possible to have concepts and be in Tao?

Many of us here, can grasp enough energy in one step, to force us half a step back to recover. But the discipline and perception to grasp just enough,to advance just a little, without the need for that much recovery, is part of the way.

enlightenment, what a concept

so busy

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Forms are just steps to your own form.

Shiny Light asked Non-existence: "Sir, do you exist or do you not exist?" (Attributed to Zhuang Zhou 莊周 c.369–c.286 BCE

Wall Gazing- "Don’t hyperventilate over external affairs, environmental conditions, or internal mental phenomena. Make your mind like a wall (xin ru qiangbi 心如牆壁), and you will be able to enter the Way."

It is what they believe they’ve experienced and how they believe they understand it. True enlightenment shatters belief.

“Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow”. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

Silence is a true friend who never betrays.-- Confucius

Better a diamond with a flaw than a pebble without one.- very old Chinese proverb

A Daoist protester holds a sign that says "The end is"

extreme right and extreme left are the enemy

"But more on subject, What would be the extreme in a circular relationship? Rather than a polarized one." Outstanding question! Any further thoughts on that?

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Sascha Brastoff

“Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it’s price.” – Sun Tzu

There are no secrets-- Cheng Manching

Feeding the Ego is like any other addiction. It always wants more.

Without aligning your energies daily, life clogs. ~Terri Guillemets

At the higher stages of energy continuation, one will find his movements are now being governed by the movement of his internal energy. ~Wu Ta-yeh