thursday

Yes, lighter.. not denser, is how it feels. I have no experience with Samadhi. My current teacher wrote he has practiced and attained Samadhi states in a lineage he used to be part of. He explained that there's an obvious difference between a Samadhi state and where the Guild system develops towards (when I inquired about Samadhi and the experiences I've had). Sensing the Higher dantien isn't what a beginner in the Guild system starts out with either.. I do have a foundation that allows for this.

Higher dantiens sounds familiar in classical Daoism? I guess within Daoism are also many different lineages and interpretations..

I agree and I'm still practising with the Guild system.. we chat about it some time ago

My teacher/lineage calls them Higher dantiens though and I was encouraged to work with at least the first one a while ago. I wasn't given much info.. I feel the first higher one infusing dantiens below with lighter energies..

Perhaps to you there is no such thing.

Does anyone want to write about experience with the Higher dantiens? Not upper dantien, but higher, above the head..

I hear you, but I stick with my opinion.. It looks nice though.

Hypnotizing and attacking people/inducing hallucinations/planting false memories some of the possible effects of using this? Hmm, the tradition I follow would consider such uses as creating dark karma. I would never make such things for people, but people are free to do what they want.

Just read about this, it may take months till it will be available though. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.987958v1 (edit: there are some energetic treatments I've seen online that are free/on youtube and may/may not help, but I feel reluctant posting about those in public) Abstract The emergence of the novel human coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 in Wuhan, China has caused a worldwide epidemic of respiratory disease (COVID-19). Vaccines and targeted therapeutics for treatment of this disease are currently lacking. Here we report a human monoclonal antibody that neutralizes SARS-CoV-2 (and SARS-CoV). This cross-neutralizing antibody targets a communal epitope on these viruses and offers potential for prevention and treatment of COVID-19.

I meant that someone's "spiritual attainment" shouldn't be used as an excuse. Some people got psychological damage because of such sessions.

Energy levels and psychic scanning, how is that relevant to some people reporting psychological damage and abuse?

I had a reading/scan from Jeff a few years ago, and it wasn't sexually themed. He did do some sort of energy work (a hug) that I could notice, but I don't know if it was beneficial at the time. Looking back now, reading some of the comments in this thread (other people's experiences), it makes sense that I didn't notice much positive from it afterwards and that his reading to my question(s) didn't make sense at the time either. I did appreciate the help and was polite, even if it didn't make sense. Having said that, I feel sorry that such sad things happened to people in the past and hope that he regrets and that he moved on in another direction.

Tryingtodobetter, I have read only a little bit in this thread and just want to say don't take the advice personally. Or if you do, remind yourself they are all taking a good amount of time out of their own practices to help people here, including you. Sometimes a great amount of time and energy.. They are doing the best they can here, hope you can understand..

If I would find myself in the astral, I would avoid questionable beings. I'd go somewhere safe or to some teacher or being that I have trust in. Quite like going to a gym in the physical and doing things manually rather than taking shortcuts with "drugs".

I'm not sure, perhaps. I really liked that post of him.

I don't have enough experience to give further suggestions. When I have developed a stronger foundation and ability my priority would be visiting higher astral temples.

Astral projection is a valuable tool to develop in some traditions because it can open a whole lot of doors, but don't start a "crash" course without a teacher perhaps. Some traditions don't think much of the astral and might see it as a lower dimension full of distractions. I believe there are different levels of density within the astral. Building foundations with regular meditation are considered important, so that you don't get stuck in some level..

Fa Xin, I'm sure that your help there will be appreciated. Simple techniques are good in emergency situations and are easy for people to understand. A simple standing meditation (or qi gong) that is not too long may be a good thing too. I would keep it short and simple, but maybe the people you're going to teach could choose their preference from a short list of things you are knowledgeable about and then you can see what works best in a particular group? Just some thoughts.

@Fa Xin .. That's a wonderful thing to be able to help people with. Having had experience with mental illness within myself, maybe of some help: Allowing things to be as they are. Observing the abdomen area with the kinesthetic sense for any sensations (with or without feeling with the hand, better with). Wether when that is high highs or low lows or a lot of fear or any state of mind is not that important, this simple practice is what can make a big difference in a short amount of time. If they are stable enough to hear you and follow instruction, this may be a good practice. At least this is what I have been taught and had good experience with.

Nice to read different perspectives from everyone. Thank you.

Do some of you experience "no thoughts" during meditation? This is different than repression of thoughts? I hear that there are techniques to block out thought and sensation and that this can be quite detrimental in the longterm.

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How many different lineages of Daoism or Buddhism are there? Enlightenment may be seen as something different depending on the group of teachers. On a forum like this one, where many different practitioners from various traditions come together to share, it's only normal that there will be some misunderstandings. I don't know what is the best system, but where I can perceive transmission that seems to indicate a "highly attained being", others may not perceive much. Or do they consciously or not, not want to see? Maybe resulting from time and energy and so on spent already in a specific direction for many years?

It seems like many spiritual traditions teach a lot of different ways. Feeling for the subtlest physical sensations/movement rather than visualizing seems like a good approach to spiritual practices because it starts where you are at and doesn't add more, so perhaps less chance of things becoming dangerous in some way or form long term.

Thank you for the clarification my friend, I wasn't completely sure what you meant. I meant no disrespect towards either Buddhist or qigong or Falun Gong practitioners or teachers.