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it is.. it is the most deadliest art out there from all kung fu...

Where I live trees are all sick. Very sick. Drought brought them down. All public parks are being watered with reclaimed ( grey) water and it kills all evergreens. It is very heard to find a healthy tree around here and there is nothing one can do about it. It is very sad:( Thank you for sharing all the info. p.s. Trees in my backyard don't like me. It is a rental place and they are not really into talking. I can see them, but when I try to talk to them, I get images of their branches being cut and how painful it is for them and I have to stop the process, because it is very painful... ( most of my "talking" is a telepathic information. I doubt trees speak English. )

Gerard, thank you for detailed explanation. I am just starting bagua and the one I was taught is mostly for energy gathering ( it is the fastest way to get "charged" from all the methods I have learned so far. However, we were advised not to use it too often ( slow progress is better). It's good to compare notes with someone who has personal experiences with this stuff. I know if you talk about it "outside", the best you get weird looks and the worst you will be deemed psychotic. I have a question on "Fu" side. I know a lot of this was removed, but is there any original books on the topic you are aware of?

Hi Dioni:) When I was a kid, I was traveling left and right and everywhere. I kind of forgot about this until I got my life changed with all this esoteric stuff and digging deeper I understood I was always like that. Natural talents:) I remember in one recurring dream as a kid I was always trying to get past the electricity wires which were covering the planet. There were a lot of humans, all cramped, all sick, like a concentration camp on global scale, but I would try to get to the wires as close as I can ( they were high up) and try to find a hole. It would burn like hell ( try touching electric wires yourself), but after I would pass through it, it would be me and blue sky and I could fly and do whatever I want. The feeling of the place was so different energetically. Being an adult and having read about "the matrix", I think my "kid being" was doing just that - going to hang out "outside". Once you get past pain and fear, it's actually very pleasant. ... but I did do a lot of strange things as a kid. I lately took an inventory of all the "events" and it made me think about 1. What were my parents doing ( i.e. did anybody ever watched me) and 2. I died ( almost? technically I am alive) 5 times before age of 7 and then it all stopped. Did I already pass all 5 gates or is it still work in progress? Was it Saturn turning? Who knows... Anyways, OBE is fun if you keep your mind from snapping from fear. If instead of running from fear and pain you actually go ahead ( because it's all in your head anyway. There is really NOTHING and that's all is. I.e. Dao creates whatever you create for yourself ( yourself including all the ancestral programming with boogey monsters and fluffy unicorns))

1. My teacher is a master of Bagua. That's his specialty. Myth or no, so I was told the story:) 2. What type of Bagua do you do? The parasites you are describing, can you please tell me more on their structure/energy feel, how did you see it first time, etc? Did you do extractions yourself or someone else did? ( I assume this was not a case of overdrinking beings encounters, but in a reasonable stable state?).

Thanks for bringing this up. Some Hindu sects are prohibiting their adepts from the consumption of garlic/onion due to it's effects on the brain. From my personal experience, after NOT having garlic/onion for many months and then having it, the energetic state of my being was certainly different. I think it does DO something for your meridians/qi flow, but I did not figure out what exactly and I did not do enough "garlic" fasting again to figure that out. If you talk to a hard-core Indian born(raised) followers of such believes, you could see how their facial expressions are changing if you mention garlic at at all. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=why+indians+do+not+eat+garlic

Believe it or not, but this was the only book I sent away. I have a rather big collection of physical books on the topic and this one just did not do anything to me. It was "locked" or "Empty". I am not sure which one. I gave it to a guy I met at Esalen, I told him to give it to someone who might find its useful... I was thinking about this book lately for whatever reason and thought maybe I should buy it again. But when I read the replies, I am still seeing it as "empty"... Probably not time yet if there is anything useful in it. Or maybe as someone note it is due to translation... Maybe I just need to read it in an original language...

Many techniques, however, whatever they describe on internet is not what my experience had been. However, I assume there are not many cats like me. If I could describe a process, I would. But I don't "do" any techniques, just an intent and off we go... ( but I also had full kundalini blown some years ago, so it's kind of part of the package) Notes: keep yourself grounded. You don't want a walk-in. My teachers told many stories about OBE their students did and then were coming back to "occupied" dwellings.

lolz, I thought you are taking about Trader Joe's "Green Powder" ( or Red) when I first red your topic title. Those are taken around here as meal replacements, but I think it is a direct road to stomach issues... As for the herbs as tonics, etc. I don't think your thought process that asking for favorite brands would achieve what you want. I think you need a consultation with a doctor familiar with the matters and your constitution/patterns. If you are let's say dragon/fire I doubt topics for water/ox would do it for you...even if the water Ox person swears by its efficiency... meow

Meow, Bums:) Here is a question for you. Since we all kind of agreed that human-to-human vampiring is not nice, let's discuss other ways of gathering energy. In this topic I would like to discuss "Gathering The Sun's Essence" practice. I would like to hear how it is done in different schools/teachers/lineages, if you have done it, what is your observations/feelings/thoughts about this, what are steps/levels/adjustments in a progressive practice (if any), warnings, etc. "Gathering the Sun's Essence" - belongs to a set of foundational meditations and is used for replenishment of Yang life-force energy. Originally described in "Hua Yang Zhu Dong Qi"( The Records of the Various Caves on the Southern Slopes of Mount Hua). Instructions survived in "Zhen Gao"(Declarations of Perfect Immortals) and "Shang Qing Wo Zhong Jue"(Explanations of the Methods of Grasping the Central Luminary). If you do such practice, mind sharing ( as much as you think is relevant?) From myself: I have done this practice with interesting results. One time at Hawaii I was doing it at the sunrise and I got circle blobs of energy ( but for some reason grey color) flowing at me. It was interesting. One time I was around Sierra's ( Tahoe area) at the sunrise and I was looking towards mountains and suddenly the colors were blue/orange and my perception was heightened to 1000X and I literally felt I am having sex with the universe. That kind of shaking is... well ( kitty will be modest here), but I think it kind of counts as getting "Yang energy" into female body. One time around Big Sur at the ocean at the sunset at winter equinox I literally felt I opened the doors to the underworld. Very strange "feelings" of meditating on the setting sun. I do not get such results at my home. When it is nice and not cold outside I do my practice in my backyard, but it does not have the results as grand as I described, but some shaking in the belly ( expected as per books/instructions). While I do not chase any results/feelings/benchmarks, I would like to find more references on the practice and how do others feel/think/observe/etc during the practice. Meow, your very smart scientific simple kat ( who can spell sometimes:P)

Is Yoda still around? His practice log seems interesting. Mind updating from almost 10 years ago if you are still here?

Here is the "Related Topics" which popped up, but looks old ( from 2013) http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/28550-are-you-interested-in-longevity-and-ancient-techniques-check-out-this-link-regarding-sun-gazing/page-2 http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/337-sungazing-quickstart-guide/?p=437343 ( 2005)

"Back to the Future" - one of my favorite movies! ... On a "spiritual" related note, I constantly have dejavu's. Sometimes it is annoying, like knowing what will be said and such... Most of my dejavus I think are from seeing it in a dream first and then being in exact situation later. Sometimes I think it is a glimpse from the meditation. Given that there are those( selves) who travel in the past, those who travel to the future, those who run in parallel dimensions( my teacher always talks about it, so there must be something behind it - spirits going on their own business left and right. He says he sees them all the time in a concept of medical chigong treatment, but usually just observes them, unless they give him a message for the patient)... I think it is possible that "time travel" is nothing more than a dimensional change concept. For example, for those of you who have seen spirits/deities in your meditations/rituals. Where do they come from? Even if they are generated by collective subconsciousness ( which I doubt, I think they are unique individual entities/beings), why do they look appropriate to their "epoch"? I.e. would you recognize Buddha or Jesus in jeans and a t-shirt if they show up to you? I think they are time traveling... ...

I do not have an experience, but I am looking into it myself. I have taken wood workshop classes. I am also planning to attend housebuilding workshop for 2 weeks in Maine. Check out "how to build a tiny house" on google. I think it's the best way to practice it first on small scale, but it will give you an idea of what will you need to a "big" house. p.s. Do you already have land? I have signed up to mailing lists for direct land sales. I am actually putting my "binder" together on all the research ( as I said, I am a very scientific cat:P ) with pricing, materials, permits, etc.

Sionnach, great post, but... you just robbed young man from discovering it himself... Isn't part of the teaching to point to the right direction, but not give it as-is? I.e. student is more likely to appreciate the knowledge when mutual work involved... I wonder if there is a "Pedagogy of Shamanism/Daoism" course somewhere on Coursera or such platforms...

Thank you for kind words. I have Three Killings Stars in my Chinese chart this year. Plus, I am a Rooster. Poor chicken is getting all the energy delivered ( although part of this was still a Monkey Year though). I was kind of expecting all of this, just observing the energy flows and learning about it. Not sure about manipulation part yet - as if you do not know the low/darkness, how will you know the high/light. At the same time, to what point do you allow Universe to beat you up? Is my non-doing too much? If the purpose is to take all the crap energy in and transform it, shouldn't it first check if the transformer can actually do it or needs some maintenance first?

The query: show me the path? Deck: http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/cachet/ ( I never used it before) Spread: Celtic cross Reading: 1. Present - Lovers 2. Obstacles - Seven of Wands 3. Future Influences - Four of Cups 4.Past Influences - 6 of cups 5. Past Events - 8 of swords 6. Future Events - Hanged Man 7.How you affect the world - 2 of pentacles 8. How the world affects you - 4 of swords 9. Hopes and Fears-4 of wands 10. Outcome - King of Pentacles ( no reverse cards)

"warrior-> healer-> scholar-> priest" I assume your friends around here can help to decipher it.

mmmmm I like how you changed your tone. I was actually considering to ignore you as you did not show willingness to see what I am trying to say. I see you perhaps had considered investigating what am I talking about. That's good. Beginner's mind will take you far. There are no levels. It is very binary, you either have it or not. How you got it - via kundalini awakening, by shaktipat, with your lineage ( ancestry), by your merit work in past lives, by 9 years at the wall, by thunderbolt, ... there are many ways. But all it is about essentially sensing and feeling energy ( it's manifestations - including yourself). At the very essence of it - it is all the same, and the methods of practicing it ( formal religion or folk style) are the same if you take off the local flavors. ... have you seen many immortals lately? Can you please tell them cat was asking how long does this shit is going to continue or are they about to blow up this world as many others before? ( j/k)

there is no spoon, Neo. You either see it or you don't. If you don't work with spirit realm, then it is not your time yet. Answer simple question to yourself, "Who are you?" Everything will follow...

You said it yourself, there is really nothing more to it. Five elements,understanding cycles of life/death, etc. It's all right there in your practice. I hope you get a light bulb and see it for yourself. the methods of achieving a deep connection with nature and external spirits

yep. Seems you are at your school ( I don't know your lineage/teacher) at Level 1, max 2. Ask them about when do you get to play with spirits... Daoists are known for that:) Good luck.

Let's say one went to a Daoist priest and asked for the rain. It's been drought lately around here, so let's assume it was a valid request and a valid concern... He said that one needs to go to the spirit of the water and ask it to come down. He warned that things might take strange turn... ... Rain did come. ... But now it is too much rain, floods... and people are suffering... ... ... How did they stopped the rain in old texts? If you were trained on rainmaking... how would you check if everything is ok ( i.e. no global flood on a horizon)? purrrrrre theoretical question of course.... meow...