Aetherous

I personally went to the Victoria Soto facebook page when it was first pointed out. It really was created before the 14th, and that one was not photoshopped. But like I said on page 1, the explanation is that the page was created for a different purpose at first and then the creator changed the name. It would take some real digging to find out what was actually posted at first...like maybe the NSA stores that kind of information, or maybe Facebook kept it. It's true that in the midst of conspiracies, some corrupt people can make up false evidence and throw it out there....versus truth seeking people simply compiling evidence. But do you realize, that's another conspiracy in itself that you're subscribing to?

I never listen to him, and would never side with him on any issue... These are my own thoughts, based on an endless supply of evidence that you can google or look up in the news. Feel free to pay attention. Please make a coherent argument using real world examples...please don't try to associate me with people like that to make my point seem worthless. It is not.

Go ahead and reread your own post.

Well, something does change, but it's mostly unnoticed (because there aren't big death numbers involved, and because it's against the agenda)...the times that there are people with concealed carry in the area, you find that the criminal is stopped early on. As far as I know...every single time!

Definitely, because you're making a counter-argument based on absolutely no facts. It's not logical to say "conspiracy theorists are _____" without any evidence to back it up...it's purely a cultural myth that CTs are nuts, paranoid, wrong, etc. And even if they truly are those things (and you can somehow lump every single one of them into the same category of "nuts")...does that make the evidence they present here false? A crazy person can be telling the truth at least some of the time, and it's good to listen to those times that they do. It would probably be pretty easy to disprove this democide thing, in comparison to other "theories"...the history has all been clearly written. You could even ask them where exactly they got the numbers from, and if they used events like Sandy Hook to boost those numbers (I personally don't think they did, but that's just a guess).

Or if evidence (which differs from proof) is clearly there, you can consider it. That's always intelligent, right? I think that the ones that aren't capable of considering evidence, are the ones who are 'seeing only what they want to see'. They see anyone questioning and doing actual investigation or collection of evidence as "conspiracy theorists"; and of course all conspiracies are "wrong", right? I didn't come to the evidence with the thought that this was an 'operation' in the first place...I thought the news reports were true for the first day or two...I have only partly come to the conspiracy conclusion based upon the piles of evidence I sifted through for a few weeks straight. So what you're saying doesn't apply to me, and I don't think it applies to anyone else here. We are not as dumb as you think. What agenda does anyone (who is questioning this) have here? We've all been taobums for quite a while, just hanging out. No one here came to the forum with some "anti-anti-gun" agenda, or whatever else. We just react as human beings with our own experiences behind us. The ones with the agenda, were the politicians calling for gun control the day of...and even in the days or weeks prior to. Duh. Even if they weren't directly involved in the operation (if there was one), they clearly used this tragedy as a political opportunity. Letting children be slaughtered while watching conflicting and bogus news reports, while doing no investigation or critical thinking of your own, is what's abhorrent in my eyes. Fully accepting the story (which has huge holes in it, and has changed multiple times, and doesn't explain most of what we're questioning) is as well. It is the definition of complacency. Those who question, think, research, allow for open discussion...are the ones who are seeking JUSTICE in this matter. The ones who wish to do whatever they can to PREVENT this kind of thing from happening again. That is action born out of concern. How about a non-questioning, non-thinking, non-researching, person who attempts to silence others with insults and accusations...what are they seeking, in their actions? Is there even any concern behind that lack of action? I guess a lot of people just feel that trying to unravel a mystery that deals with slain children, is off limits? I don't blame you for feeling that way. The whole thing is disturbing. You might want to further shut down your awareness, though, and exit this thread...because we all react to disturbing things in different ways. As I told someone else in another thread...personally, if there is a fire, I run toward it to put it out. I don't run away or close my eyes, or start calling fire fighters stupid. Being insulting to those who wish to actually do something about the very real problems in the world, is not going to change their course. They are driven by something much more real than apathy. It's fine to blindly believe that there's no conspiracy here. But don't attempt to say that others are disgusting, when they're simply doing what they feel is best for the situation. NONE OF US are spitting on the graves of these kids, by attempting to restore justice in what appears to be a very unjust situation...what a crazy thing for you to say about your fellow bums. I'll just take that as a pathetic attempt to shut people up. Well, absolutely none of that pseudo-psychology applies to me. Not a single thing. And it seems the other forum members here who are capable of keeping an open mind, are some of the more well adjusted ones... How does your character fit in with the above description, Aaron? I have a lot of factual evidence, and even more exists in other places online. What I don't have is definitive proof. There isn't a conclusion to this story. Just more gathering of evidence...at least for me. Any stories you see which connect the dots, which aren't dots of their own, are only attempts to make sense of the evidence...and would only be definitive if this thing goes to court. True, and that's fine...but you and others are not free to insult your fellow bums, since that is against forum rules (up to the mods if they enforce it of course). While I'm insulted by what you said, as well as your actions and beliefs...I don't think you actually made a direct insult, so good work. ... At this point, I will not respond to any more personal stuff...and will attempt to just stick to facts about any evidence regarding this.

Do you really think the only evidence for a Sandy Hook conspiracy is on the website in the OP of this thread???? Apparently you've not been paying much attention. I've been gathering quite a bit of evidence in the Obomber thread. But you don't want to see that. Or you can do a google search, and find piles of evidence. But all of those people are irrational, so maybe you don't want to look and learn something.

http://memoryholeblo...sacre-timeline/ From the above website...apparently someone actually did an internet check on the website of the fake interview with the principal. It was created on the 13th, the day before the massacre. The internet check includes how the page appeared at first...the original info is there, from the "13th". Could it have been that the check took place somewhere around the world in another time zone so that the date was different? I will need proof of that to believe it. See directly here: http://cc.bingj.com/...1&w=yZ8j1YFE_Mw

I am starting to think people function the opposite of how they should...or how you think they would. As a rule, almost 100% of the time. For instance, if you want to actually teach someone something, tell them the opposite....or really just tell them nothing at all. Because when you tell them the truth directly, it's either "in one ear and out the other" or argued against. Whereas a total dumbo will suddenly have an epiphany and spout off some hard learned truth as if it were nothing, if you just leave them alone. If you want to make someone happy, try to piss them off. They will make themselves happy on their own, and will be glad you challenged them into their happiness...even if they claim to hate you for pissing them off. If you want someone to stop hating you...try to get them to hate you more. They will have nothing but respect for you then...versus, if you try to be polite or try to change their feelings, they will generally have no respect and feel threatened. People are a bunch of freaks.

Bullshit. Myself and a few others here are very open minded to this "irrational" "absurd" "nonsense". Apparently we are not thinking critically like you are. I hope you are suspended for a bit, so that actual discussions can continue unhindered, without a bunch of little outbursts and insults flying around.

Where is the evidence that vegetables would naturally have b12 if the soil wasn't damaged? Also, yes it's possible to make a vegan diet work, if you use things such as you suggested, or nutritional yeast and other items. But at least personally, for my own diet, I view that as "unnatural" in relation to human history, as well as taste. To each their own. Respect to those who can't eat animals due to their ethics.

Oh now you're calling me "sensitive'? I'll report that as well.

"So called" cultivators? Weak minded fools that have too much time on their hands? And now calling people irrational? I won't discuss whether you're being insulting...you are.

I'll be reporting people for personal insults starting with ralis' post.

Prove that meat eating causes psychopathy...until then, it's just conjecture. I personally don't think it's true at all. In fact, I think that vegans and the like tend to have more personality and mental issues than normal people. For one thing, a lack of vitamin b12 leads to irritability, among other problems. Consider that animals eat each other, based on what they are and need. They are following the natural law (don't Taoists appreciate such a thing?)...versus being too idealistic and being violent in mind, by judging the acts of others. By even going so far to say that they tend to be psychopathic? As for the Bible, here is what looks to be an unbiased list of verses: http://www.openbible...eating_red_meat

One discrepancy that came up about Nancy Lanza, is whether she was a kindergarten teacher/substitute or not. The school nurse apparently clearly said she was...but then the more official reports that came out said she never taught there. Do you know? Also, sorry if you were personally affected at all...hope the community is healing.

Now that's a conspiracy theory. If someone can refute the number, feel free to prove it.

It sounds like kundalini side effects to me...which is sympathetic nervous system arousal, of blood (and warmth) shunting to the center of the body. Moxa on zusanli is supposed to be very good for warming yourself in the winter. Relaxation and parasympathetic nervous system activation is called for here...if you can find ways to do that.

Well, it's not literally everyone. There are a lot of people who can't have firearms, such as those who were in the mental health system. If you want to understand how all qualified people can and should be considered a militia, watch Red Dawn (I'm thinking of the older version, haven't seen the new one).

I just want to say to Aaron and a few others: questioning the official story and investigating the discrepancies that clearly exist, is not a disservice to the people involved in the tragedy. Insinuating that this is heartless and will hurt the families is just plain false. If a family member pointed their finger at conspiracy theorists, they'd be placing the blame on the wrong person... For those who don't believe it's a conspiracy, I see your point and agree that it is quite possible. I personally don't blindly believe either way...there is not enough evidence to know. What there is evidence of is: a LOT of false and contradictory reporting, strange connections to Hollywood and a mysteriously timely death of the person involved, unexplained aspects that came through on the police scanner, unexplained aspects of children's testimony from being interviewed on that day, the media using living children's facebook pictures to represent the deceased, doctored photos of family members, family members not shedding a single tear about their child who was killed and actually laughing and beaming a genuine smile, family members looking eerily (exactly) similar to people of another family name from Florida who all seem to have a connection to characters in multiple other events....this is only scratching the surface of the discrepancies here. Those that don't care to hear it...fine. Go ahead - see and hear no evil. But please don't come in and insult the intelligence of those that actually have been paying attention, and who are willing to question.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

Good link. They claim that the pages were created with another purpose and name, and that when it happened they changed it after the fact. This is possible...although strange for it happening with so many different pages... The Victoria Soto facebook page is a new one altogether; the date wasn't changed...the old page was simply deleted due to so many people commenting on it about the date. I think it's good that people point everything out. It will greatly help anyone doing an actual investigation.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/professor-won-t-back-down-newtown-massacre-conspiracy-183530799.html