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ChiDragon has been trolling, posting blatantly false information...and he actually posted racist remarks against westerners and white people specifically a while back. At the very least, 90% of his posts are of this quality. I have been warning him that I'd report him to the mods for this behavior, and so I started early in this thread for a legitimate reason. Not simply because I disagreed with someone. I see who you are now.

CowTao, Why are you thinking I called you a pseudo-Buddhist? You were actually one of the few that I was reserving some respect for...past tense, now. Why is telling someone to practice more and to stop parroting supposed authority figures a bad thing? It will only benefit them, as well as the quality of the discussion on this forum. Sunya, Dude, I've been over this soooooo many times with you now. I answer your quesitons, and you ignore it and ask them again and again, or just claim I'm wrong, etc. I can't do it anymore, man. I totally lack the patience to deal with that. But you are improving...your previous post was fairly decent and I could agree with most of it. So the debate is beneficial in some ways...for you.

I am not guilty of breaking the forum's rules whatsoever, and should not be banned along with you, Seth. I hope you can work out your issues of violence while you're gone...and at this point, since you are continuing with the personal insults and aggression, I do hope you are banned for quite a while. I disagree with both you and Sunya regarding the basic beliefs of Buddhism. I do agree with wikipedia, though... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunyata http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependent_origination Funny how that works.

Sunya, this is exactly why I don't want our private converation made public. You are just trying to make me look bad...and it will work! For a more truthful perspective on the quote right here: this was my response while in the midst of taking an online quiz that's due tomorrow morning! After being verbally assaulted by you...it's an example of me not having patience. By the way, I didn't give permission for you to post that part of our private conversation either. Please don't post more private stuff again. And maybe we should stop referring to it, as well? It's only problematic.

You have to be fucking kidding me, Mal. Not like I wish to see him banned...but this is ridiculous.

By the way...whoever is giving Seth plusses. You realize that it's not a tool to help someone insult another person more, right? It's a tool to vote for posts which elevate the quality of discussion on this forum. But yeah thanks for supporting your fellow BUDDHIST REPRESENTATIVE Seth in making me feel more unwelcome here, and insulted personally. I assure you, you're doing a good thing for your supposedly Buddhist cause! ...maybe! ...probably not!!!!

Seth "Ananda", Seth, you didn't see the conversations I disproved, so what are you talking about? They were private between myself and Sunya. I'm not sure if I've ever really discussed Buddhism here...so you have no frame of reference. You're out of your element! I can see how some people would look at it like that. My actions in this thread have not been skillful at all! I haven't had the inclination to try and make myself appear any certain way...I'm just speaking my mind. Maybe not the best way to operate in a community...so maybe I'll rethink my actions here at the forum... I didn't say that. That was Sunya misunderstanding and misquoting me from our private discussions, in which I schooled him. He was arguing that emptiness means nothing has self existence (for instance, he was saying that a tree doesn't exist...only appearances of characteristics of a tree exist, there is no tree that enables the characteristics to appear), and that nothing exists separate from anything else, ever...in addition to other false concepts, such as the world not existing when he's not aware of it, etc...these ideas are misunderstandings of the actual Buddhist teaching of emptiness. This is why I say I schooled him. The body going without food or air for a period of time was an example of how it can be separated from essentially everything and still exist. Sunya was confusing "dependent origination" with a false notion of...I suppose, "dependence". A theory (which I guess he made up?) that everything constantly depends on everything else to continue existing. He was trying to convince me that all Buddhists believe these things...I had to quote wikipedia a few times to show him the truth of his own religion. Actually yes. Him and I have spoken privately for a while now, and I'm quite aware of his practice habits. He can claim it's true, but I simply don't believe him. At all! Personal integrity is a very big deal to me...but I still like him and consider him a friend regardless of anything. Like I made plainly clear, I'm not anti-Buddhist. I'm pro-real-Buddhist! I'm anti-pseudo-Buddhist. The practitioners here need to shape up! I only consider a few to be real Buddhists. For example, your posts supposedly defending Buddhism in this topic have been ridiculous and actually very un-Buddhist! You didn't address any of the actual points I made...you simply attacked me. We could have discussed what Buddhist enlightenment is and isn't...what Taoist alchemy schools I was referring to. We could find out if what I said is really legitimate. You know...have a discussion! Nah...instead you just want to defame me personally. The truth doesn't matter to the pseudo-Buddhists here. Facts don't matter. If Taoism is better than Buddhism, that's irrelevant to you types...even discussing the possibility is irrelevant...because the unconscious reaction is that "Buddhism" must be defended at all costs! NOTHING CAN BE CONSIDERED BETTER THAN IT! NO ONE CAN HOLD THAT OPINION!!!! IF THEY DO THEY'RE HATE FILLED IDIOTS!!! Buddhism is defended no matter what by the fakers. Even at the cost of hurting someone personally (me) and breaking forum rules, getting yourself banned (which clearly should happen at this point). So yeah, I'm just disappointed in you pseudo-Buddhists here, and continue to feel that way more and more, the more I interact with you guys. I would love to see more of the real deal being represented here. I wish you guys could step up to the plate and do it...even something as simple and basic as "right action". But until that happens, I will continue to publicly claim the truth as I see it regarding the way that you and the others here treat your own tradition. Deal. With. It.

Actually, "despiser of Buddhist beliefs" is harmonious with Buddhism. It does not oppose it. There are many here who cling to the belief system of (their preferred brand of) Buddhism, instead of discovering the truth for themselves...or being honest when the beliefs (usually misinterpretations) are plainly proven wrong. So despising Buddhist beliefs is a call to the Buddhist practitioners here to step up their game. I consider many of them to be absolute beginners. It's a demonstration against that which opposes Buddhism...ignorance and falsehood. Laziness. Basically I want to see better Buddhists here, and more respect for the tradition. Funny, huh? Edit: Also, notice I quote Tilopa in my sig??????

Insult policy, Seth. Thanks for your viewpoint on me personally! And thanks for saying sorry, it really meant a lot, coming from you... Give ONE real example of this, and I'll admit that I am incapable of understanding Buddhism. I think there isn't a single one. Otherwise, what you're doing here is this: If you want your post attacking me personally to be true, then prove the things you've said about me. Until then, what you've said is a blatant lie. Typical of the Buddhist population here, I might add. Also once again, insult policy for "loud angry fool". Capitalized too!? Yikes. Who is angry here?? I'm more than capable...just unwilling. It's a complete waste of time to debate with someone who wishes above all else to uphold a belief system, instead of discover the truth. That's what happened with Sunya. Every one of his arguments, over the course of many hours was proven wrong. Of course he won't admit that. I value honesty in people above all else. Which is why I've plainly spoken what I know to be true in this thread. If you don't like it, then just deal with it, like you have to do anyway. We can disagree. And I can continue to speak what I know to be true here. You can think I'm a tool, or whatever else. That's your loss. Your judgments. But what you can't do is say it publicly! Well, ask Sunya if he saved our private discussions. I give permission for you to view them and see how it went down, if you care to take the time. How does Buddhism threaten my beliefs? So I look like a tool to you (and a few others possibly)...I don't care. That's your path and has nothing to do with me. I'm just saying what I think is true regarding the traditions. I'm not here defaming anyone, like you have just done...which you are being reported for.

Simple Jack, I'll just be plainly honest, since I've had quite the weekend: WHO GIVES A SHIT? I'm not interested in Buddhist nonsense, and I'm even less interested in people who feel the need to spout it out and never achieve anything substantial. Get to practice! Then I'll be interested in what you have to say!

Sunya, You said: I took it as an insult, since Buddhism is very easy to understand, and also because in our private discussions I schooled you on it and you choose to continue to be dishonest with yourself and everyone else, and ignore that fact. But oh well. Anyway, then you said: If you don't understand Taoism, then how do you know whether Buddhist enlightenment is the first step or not? How do you know it's a fine path and that it leads to great realizations? How do you know it's not superior? So in other words, you're just speaking out of your ass. Nothing new there, brah. On the other hand, I DO claim to understand Buddhism. I know Taoism is superior. I know that Buddhist enlightenment is the first step in some schools of Taoist alchemy. I know that my realization is greater than yours (in fact, you should too since we discussed that). So...fucking deal with it.

That's bullshit, Sunya. I understand Buddhism just fine...and actually had to correct you on many of its basic points. You did not practice dantien breathing everyday for a year... I'm not talking about your idea of Buddhahood (which doesn't exist); I said Buddhist enlightenment.

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My experience. I'd rather offer help to those who are interested, than explanations to those who aren't. I'm trying to duck out of this topic, since the truth is painful to those still trying to form their own opinions. But I'll say this... Buddhist enlightenment is the first step in some schools of Taoist alchemy! It's a cultivation of the body, mind and spirit...not just the body and its sensations. Okay leaving this topic now for real. It's not the place. Peace.

What's the method?

Sure, my personal experience is a sign of ignorance! Peace out, kids...

Wow, that is one of the most confused statements I have ever read in my life.

If you wish to begin understanding, then research Taoist alchemy. Attempt to understand and experience. Until then, best of luck to you.

I like your teacher's explanations of the 3 dantiens! Very accurate in my experience!!! Actually in Bon it goes like this: Throat/thirdeye/crown = EARTH Heart = SPACE LDT = FIRE Secret chakra 4 finger widths below navel, in the front of the body = WATER WIND is dispersed throughout the entire body Unless there are different systems of the chakras/elements in Bon...could be the case...

The specific place can be anywhere behind the navel to 3 finger widths below it. When you find the right place, you might notice increased heat in the belly, sweating, tingles going up the spine or at the crown, the eyebrows twitching, etc. Don't force the attention or try to push energy into the area. It's best to have a teacher in person.

Really? There's a huge disconnect between what I'm saying and what you're understanding. I'm speaking from my own experience, as well as what I've been taught by a master, and what I've read about, when it comes to "void". I'm not talking about states of mind. It has nothing to do with any formless jhana state. It has nothing to do with philosophy, or speculation. Taoist alchemy is something entirely different from Buddhism, and is far superior to it. I see...you're just parroting Bodri and have little to no experience of your own. When you accomplish all of that, you will be more capable of discussion. Until then, we're not even capable of communicating. You're misunderstanding everything I say. As such, even posting this response wasn't worth it. Anyway, best of luck to you in your practices. Oh, it's quite easy to understand. You believe that dantien breathing causes attachment to the body, due to having attention within the body during practice. But your belief is plainly false!

Yes, dantien breathing does this as well. Much quicker in fact! Anapana is weak sauce, for real. And having attention in an area of the body does not make it harder to merge with the void. In Taoist alchemy the body itself must merge with void, not just the mind. And in Taoism, it's the true void or Tao...not the dhyanas of Buddhism. So we're talking about entirely separate things. Anyway, the point is, dantien breathing is not an inferior method. Those who say that are simply misleading others. It is in fact superior to anapana, because it includes anapana, in addition to activation of the lower dantien. In truth, it is capable of accomplishing everything, if you master it. If you're inexperienced in this fact, then please keep your inexperienced opinions to yourself!

I can say "whatever, guy" to you too. I consider it superior to anapana. Cultivating attention within an area of the body doesn't mean you're clinging to it.

I totally disagree. That could be your only technique and you'd be fine.