Aetherous

The bible is really confusing.

So what's happening is one person is trying really hard to hit the other, and the other's inner power is acting like a force field or something? If so...awesome! I'd love to try that out.

About who to get a transmission from...Dionne, who teaches with Oscar, is supposed to be great. I would personally go to her.

So much drama. Bottom line: the kunlun practice is great, regardless of what you call it or where it comes from. Max is kind for sharing it, in whatever way he does. Some people in this topic have some growing to do.

I got Santiago's "Secrets the gurus will never show you" book. Originally I paid the 60 bucks for it, but when I came into financial trouble I did the worst thing imaginable and...asked for my money back! But Santiago gave it to me and said he understood. So that shows something great about him right there. By the way, Santi, soon I will be in the clear again and you'll get the money back. Thanks and sorry again. Anyway the book itself is geared mostly towards yogis, but there are a lot of tips in it that are helpful for everyone. A few things I had no idea about in terms of grounding and rooting, which are helpful even for my own practice. It's a pretty big book, too...if I had that in my earlier days of kundalini yoga that would've been super helpful. So after a while with just kunlun practices I plan on checking out more of this stuff. KAP, Hoshintao and the Silat stuff all sound VERY cool. What really intrigues me is combining martial art, magic, and tantra...that's so cool. Luckily this guy isn't going away, he is just taking some time off due to stuff in life. Understandable and good. We are all in such a great place to have such great people with us here. Great resources to learn and grow from.

I don't know if anyone besides maybe Chris can answer whether Max currently has "higher" teachings. It'd probably be best to form a huge list of them and get a plane ticket to wherever the next seminar is, to ask Max directly. Like winpro, I don't really see a need for higher teachings now that I have kunlun and red phoenix...AND all of the other things we learned.

Great foundational tips...good for everyone!

Good advice.

Max said at the NJ workshop that the upcoming book should have all of the correct details about the practice.

Well you do seem humble now, but go back and read your first post in this topic...it's kind of different. I do think you were trying to help, so the intention was good. There are people here who are interested in using energy related phenomenon to realize the truth. I didn't mind her at first. In fact I had no idea she was the guru...her posts at the time kind of blended in with everyone else's on the god-realized yahoo group. This was about 5 years ago now that I first started talking to her. Somehow I found out she knew what she was talking about, and told her my personal story. She said I was ready for diksha, and to set up my own altar and stuff...I wasn't really ready to have a weird altar in my dorm room but whatever. I would ask about whatever was on my mind, and she'd answer freely. It was actually very great. She said it was common for a seeker to donate or give up something as a sign that they were ready, so since I really didn't have much at the time, especially money, I offered to become celibate for a month (which was quite a challenge at the time). She warned me that it was bad karma if I went back on what I said I'd do, and I said "ok", then I ended up not following through. Well that kind of ended the thing right there...a couple years later I went back to her saying that I thought I was ready again. During the time away, I think she stabilized herself more in that identity as the guru, or something. Beforehand she was really open, but now she seems to become more and more closed off. At least that's the impression I have gotten over the years. Of course, she will say it's all coming from the source or whatever, and that there isn't a personality there, but from what I've seen I disagree. She may have true, effortless, constant realization, but that doesn't mean she doesn't have her own quirks. Anyway, I was going to go down to Mexico where she was about a couple years ago to get diksha. It was going to be on this auspicious holiday for Indians, so she said it looked good...I couldn't get a passport in time. Then I would have very strong kundalini awakenings as a result of talking to her. One night I couldn't get ANY sleep, and most night there was little. Fear would arise in me. For some reason, I asked her more about the tradition itself...like why the fire ceremony and bowing to the fire, if the absolute is beyond form, etc. She took that to mean I had a lot of Christian conditioning, and that I was being disrespectful and there would be no way she'd do diksha because I would probably freak out. I didn't think that was the case, but anyway that was the final straw I guess. I basically left, but she kind of pushed me away too, and said "don't do any spiritual practices". LOL I actually didn't for quite a few months, but I think nothing can stop the desire for the truth in me, so I began again, regardless. It would've been quite a spiritual practice to stay away from spiritual practices. Anyway I like her, and think she is telling the truth. It seems she has helped quite a few people. I just don't get along with her as a seeker...I'm not all about the guru thing.

Cool! What did you want to attain back in 1990..and did you attain it? What are you willing to help others with? The same goal?

Well no one else is answering yet... I think it's good to first fill up the dan tien by doing embryonic breathing, and celibacy or retention. Then you can feel the MO instead of blindly searching for it. But I'm just a beginner at all of this...

I was into Swami G for a while. She is good, but we didn't click. I wish you the best of luck with her, Mikael. I suggest not talking about all of this until you're actually realized. Get her shaktipat, do everything she says, reach realization yourself, then discuss it. Because right now you're just the blind leading the blind, and you're also just a parrot, rehashing everything Swami G says. She may be right...but find out for yourself instead of intellectualizing it. The purpose of her teachings aren't for you to be right and to prove others wrong...it's for you to find the truth. Because as it stands right now, you are engaging in ego activities just like everyone else. It's no better than kunluners, qigongers, yoga freaks, etc.

Someone who cares to take on a new practice SHOULD check that out! It seems very similar to kunlun, and perhaps is the same thing with just slight variations. I would take that online course if I wasn't already kunluning.

True. In the way you learned it did it have anything to do with grass gliding?

That's what Max showed us, too, for the grass gliding method...there's also a hand mudra for it (may or may not be all that important). It kind of doesn't make any sense to say, "That isn't the grass gliding method, as far as I know!" You don't know, so learn.

I shouldn't find that name funny, but it really did make me laugh.

Yeah I have photographic evidence.

It's good to clear things up.

Hey Daoist Bum

It should be pretty clear by now that you shouldn't be standing on your toes for standing kunlun.

Yeah I had kind of a wild day yesterday.

Or you could carry a saw and cut down a tree so it's the perfect height to sit on.

This sounds completely awesome! But I have three reasons for which I can't make it: annual family reunion, a wedding of a friend, and I really need to stick to the basics of kunlun right now before trying other energy work. Dang.