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<Jesus said to them,> "You do not realize who I am from what I say to you, but you have become like the Jews, for they (either) love the tree and hate its fruit (or) love the fruit and hate the tree." This saying originates from the dietary law: We eat the word of God... meditate (ruminate) upon it, and it creates the fruit of a holy (separated) walk. This is the clean animal. The Pharisee had a walk that was separated (the appearance of holiness) which was not based upon the word of God, but upon their own self-righteousness. The Scribe ruminated upon the word of God, but it did not produce in him the fruit of a holy walk.

You know turtle, as fascinating as I found GOT... when the methods are applied to the Bible, every verse of every Chapter of every book of the OT unpacks in this way to show a hidden picture of Christ. It is humanly impposible that I should impose a system upon it and make it work out this way. I found it encouraging, that though I could show that the apostles used this method, it was from the Bible. Here the independent source of Thomas validates the work done in sensus plenior.

We are to become citizens of the kingdom of heaven, the new teaching of peace, as did Abraham. We do not take possession of earthly things, nor earthly passions. We can enjoy the things of the earth as a tourist recognizing we don't belong here. (Ac 7:6, Heb 11:9)

The hand represents works. Since we have seen before that works do not generate grace nor holiness, then the one who has works must be doing the works tah tGod create dfor him: This indicates that the one who has works is ina relationship with God already. Those who are in a relationship will receive more. Those who do not have any works are found in the sorry condition that James mentions: The guy who has good works has faith. The one who does not, has a false faith. He is a pretender to the faith. He says he believes in Christ, but Jesus never 'knew' him; Jesus did not 'teach' him, and he has no new life within.

Jesus said he was the vine with the Father as the husbandman: Thomas is addressing a false vine. Christ is the source of wine/grace. So the false vine is a source of false grace. All such false sources will be destroyed. Anything that offers grace outside the cross of Christ, Thomas claims is a false vine. Again we find the offensively exclusive statements of orthodox Christianity within the GOT. I highlight this because there are so many Christian scholars who condemn the GOT as being Gnostic, yet their own blindness to the genre of riddle contained in GOT and the Bible, makes them fall into the pit of saying 34.

Thanks turtle, In saying 5 we saw that the keys to the kingdom, the keys to the new teaching of peace were the hidden pictures of Christ in the Old Testament. The Pharisees hid them... they intentionally changed the methods of interpretation so that Jews who read their own scripture would not see Christ. How often have you heard that Hebrew does not have vowels, Yet the rabbis teach among their own that יהוה Yahweh, consists solely of vowels and that we discern that God is Spirit since it is pronounced with only the breath. The first century saw the invention of several formalized Jewish hermeneutics. PaRDeS was introduced, Kaballah was promoted so much that Greek Gnostics adopted its interpretations. The cross of Christ has become an offense to nearly every other religion because of it's exclusive claim that God alone is God. Yet it is this claim that offers hope. We merely need to acknowledge God as God in order to enter into an intimate relation with him.

Since the days of the apostles men have sought the hidden sayings of Christ and have not found them. Is that the great falling away that Paul speaks of? By 300 AD, Augustine and Constantine had removed Jewish influence from the church, making it difficult, if not impossible to see the hidden pictures of Christ in the scriptures.

Garments are always works. When you count all your righteousness (good works) as filthy rags, when you are ready to meet God with all your flesh exposed, your sins revealed, then you will meet him without fear. Those who come dressed in garments of their own making will approach in fear; never sure if their works have covered their sin.

Morning is the reconciliation between grace (darkness) and holiness (light). Evening is the same between holiness and grace. Garments are always 'works'. Thomas says do not be concerned about works and you go from holiness to grace or grace to holiness. Works are something we have been created to do. Works do not produce grace, nor do they produce holiness.

Jesus is the Son over his house which is the church. The word גרם strong also means 'cut off'. Jesus is the man who was 'cut off' from his people when he was made to die outside the camp. This teaching is in the context of: It would seem that Thomas would suggest that if the works (hands) of Christ were bound, then the house could be ransacked. But Jesus said his work could not be stopped:

Seeing represents understanding. The word בור pit also means 'declare'. When people who do not understand the scriptures lead others in understanding of the scriptures they both fall, by declaring what they believe to be true to be Truth.

The hidden things of Christ should be made public, not kept secret. The word גג housetop means 'pursue in heaven and earth'. Thomas says to make it well known. Augustine actually killed the practice of interpreting the scriptures in this way. He pushed for favoring the Septuagint, a translation in Greek, rather than the original Hebrew. This hid much of the hidden meaning behind the translation.

Since there has not been much discussion, I just started documenting them all. I hope that the silence is not because I have caused offense and you just don't know how to confront me. Though I doubt that since confronation is usually easy in forums. This is all original material, and I appreciate that you would allow me to post it here for feedback. Though after losing a couple posts, I am now puting it in my own wiki before posting here.

The difference between a city and a town is a wall, in the scriptures. The city represents the kingdom of heaven...remember that the kingdom is 'teaching'. The wall around the Kingdom of Heaven is the law of Moses. It hedged the law of love. It became a barrier into the law of love as it became a tool for the self-righteous to justify themselves. Ans it is a guard so that we are not deceived by the flesh to just do what we want, ignoring love of God and men. The mountain, or high place is the place we meet God. This is Christ himself. When we move a mountain to the sea, we move Christ into the hearts of men. If God had wanted a literal mountain in a literal sea, he would have put it there. The New Jerusalem, the new teaching of peace, cannot fall nor can it be hidden. Like leaven, it will continue to grow until it fills the whole lump.

The first half is plain teaching: The second half is the riddle. The word ידע yada means 'to know'. It is used to speak of the intimate relationship between a man and his wife. It also means 'to teach'. Adam taught his wife and she concieved... Jesus taught his disciples and they became new life. Jesus said to many "I never knew (taught) you, depart from me" . One who is known by the great physician (Christ) (Isa 53:5 ), is already a new life, and is not in need of healing.

This is a very clear (and early) teaching of the Trinity. Where there is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, they are all three deities. Before someone runs off and claims that Thomas said there were more than one God, they must understand the complete riddle. Where there are two... I am with him. The two are treated as though they are one. I am with him. Where there... is one, I am with him Whether the one is the Father, or the Holy Ghost, Christ is with him. All three are God. They are each individually God. And while Christ was in the flesh, he did not cease to be God.

This riddle speaks of Jesus's 'coming of age' when he recognizes that he is God in the flesh. His body came into existence because of the Spirit of God overshadowing Mary. Wrestling with his flesh he recognized that he was first and foremost Spirit as he always did what the Father asked. It was a a great wonder how God could dwell in Christ.

This saying is understood when we know that wine represents grace. When Jesus appeared in the world, they were sinful, but because they had not been destroyed, they were receiving grace in abundance. They did not understand.

The kingdom of heaven is teaching, as we have seen before. It is a teaching that the flesh is the source of original sin. Instinctive living, without considering what God has said declares that we are a god capable of doing what we think is right. We must fast from this in order to understand the teaching of the kingdom which begins with acknowledging God as God, and grows as we enter into a more intimate relationship. The word שבת Shabot or Sabbath when interpreted by way of hieroglyphics is ש the Spirit ב come in, and the ת tov makes the previous an object. Thomas says if the Spirit does not come into you, you will not see the Father. (Ac 19:2)

The beam of the passover ritual is a symbol of the cross (Ex 12:7). The eye represents understanding. The word in Greek for mote is 'straw' which is something that passes away (1Co 3:12-13). The saying has nothing to do with sin as so many would say. It is about understanding the scriptures. You can see a minor doctrine that someone else holds, and which will pass away. All the while you do not understand the cross which demands that you love that brother. When you understand love, as Christ taught it, then you will approach the correction of a minor doctrine in that love. Within a few hundred years of Christ the church forgot how to read the scriptures this way, and they were willing to kill those who were pronounced to be heretics. This completely violates the teaching of Christ.

The word for pupil is אישון translated 'apple of his eye'. It literally means 'man of him' like our 'man after his own heart'. Jesus said it this way: Mr 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Thomas is highlighting that love does not merely love like you love your body, since men may do things destructive of the body in order to satisfy the love of their soul. Herein is the riddle: The word for eye עין is the name of the letter ע. Hieroglyphically it represents Christ in the flesh before he knew he was the Messiah. Thomas interprets the saying of Jesusthat we should protect our 'neighbor' as though he were a child of your own flesh. Sometimes the sayings of Christ are difficult, even impossible without being empowered by him to do so. It should be no wonder that so many Christians are unable to live up to what Christ taught.

He said to them, "Whoever has ears, let him hear. There is light within a man of light, and he lights up the whole world. If he does not shine, he is darkness." Light = Holiness Darkness = grace. One who is evil or sinful, but who has not been destroyed is receiving grace. He is in darkness. As men, we are only made holy when God imputes his holiness to us (2Co 5:21). Christ was holy by his divine nature. The symbol of the Nazarite tells us that Jesus did not need holiness imputed to him, nor did he need grace. This is seen in the symbols of wine (grace) and strong drink (the law) which the Nazarite swears not to drink. The one who is holy has holiness withing and he brings holiness to the whole world. This is primarily a picture of Jesus as the one who redeems the world. If Jesus is not judging the world with his holiness, he is giving it grace. For us, if holiness has been imputed to us, we bring it to the world. Lot was judged by God to be a righteous man (2Pet 2:8) and did not destroy Sodom while he was in it. By one man, all of Sodom was saved. It was only when he was gone that God destroyed it.

10 = Christ as the dual-natured man 100 = church 1000 = king 10000 = ?? 100 = 10 x 10 When we become dual-natures men 'like' Christ, then he and us together make the church 100 = 1000 / 10 The church is the tithe (the increase) of the king. 1000 The king rules over the flesh. As we become spiritual people and learn to control the flesh, we become kings. The two taken from 10000 are 10, us, as dual-natured men, and 1000, which means we are kings over the flesh. This is confirmed by 100 x 100 which says that the two shall be one, our spirit and flesh will be as one.

Thomas has recorded hints for interpreting the Bible. When you make the two one When you find two things together in scripture, they are one thing. This does not mean they are the same, there is a distinction which must be made. One is of a heavenly or spiritual nature, and one is of a earthly or fleshly nature: Father and son are one (Joh 10:30, Heaven and earth are one creation (Ge 1:1, Eph 1:10) Soul and spirit (Heb 4:12) Joints and marrow (Heb 4:12) Thoughts and intents of the heart (Heb 4:12) Adam and Eve one flesh (Ge 2:24) Cain and Abel one picture of Christ Fat and oil Body and soul Abraham and Lot as a picture of Christ Ishmael and Isaac as a picture of Christ Esau and Jacob as a picture of Christ Isaac and the ram as a picture of Christ When you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside There are a number of applications for this hint. That which is inside, like the seed of Abraham is included in his covenant. That which is inside the covenant (Israel) is like that which is outside the covenant (Gentiles). They are both sinners in need of a redeemer kinsman. That which is outside the covenant (the Gentiles) must be brought into the kingdom. That which is our outer man must not be a hypocrite to our inner man. That which is hidden in scripture must agree with that which is plain. The above like below God has revealed himself through four voices (Prophet, Priest, King, Judge). These voices not only speak from time to time throughout scripture, but they speak simultaneously through the same scripture. Every OT scripture has four legitimate meanings as each voice speaks. Most Christians have only read 1/4 of their Bible if they have read it from cover to cover. For example, in the account of the rod of Moses turning into a serpent when he met God at the burning bush (Ex 4:2): The voice of the king speaks literally Moses's rod turned to a serpent, he cast it to the ground, and picked it up again. The voice of the Judge speaks a judgement to Moses God says in figure, Moses, you have wielded my authority wrongly when you killed the Egyptian, but you are forgiven, pick it up again and this time do it right. The voice of the Prophet speaks of Christ in the flesh When the final temptation of Christ came at Gethsemane, he did not want to be made to be sin (2Co 5:21) and balked from drinking of the cup placed before him ([Lu 22:42]]; in figure, he threw the snake to the ground. But he resolved himself to follow the will of the Father and picked it up again. The voice of the Priest speaks of the eternal Son The priest tells us that the Son, in eternity before creation, did not wish to be made to be sin. He was the son who said he would not do it and then did in the parable (Mt 21:28). That which is an earthly historical account, speaks of that which is above. Men and women the same Previously we saw that both Adam and Eve were symbols of Christ. This tells us that to understand scripture, gender has nothing to do with literal gender, they are figures used in riddle. Literally, there is no male of female in Christ (Ga 3:28). Those who legalistically apply roles to gender do not understand scripture (Eph 5:32 ). But figuratively, the male represents those who see clearly, and the female those who don't. Christ is male relative to us, but female relative to the Son, because of limiting his omniscience in the incarnation. The teacher should be male, one who understands, those who do not understand (females) should learn quietly and then inquire of their husband (Christ). In the same way that we are both sheep and goats, we are both male and female; understanding some things and not understanding others. Jumping to Thomas's riddle #114, why would Mary need to be made male? Because the blind must see! Those who don't understand must be taught! The kingdom of heaven is teaching, and everyone must be taught in order to understand it. By the way, her name, Mary, means rebellious. Those who are rebellious must be taught. This is also the solution to the riddle in Jeremiah that says all men will become pregnant (Jer 30:6). Women must become men, (those who are blind must see) and those who see must be fruitful and multiply (through teaching). Hands, eyes, feet and places When you understand that these things are figures, you will understand the teaching. Hands - works Eyes - Understanding Feet - you life, or 'walk' Ears - You are drawn without understanding like a sheep to it's master's voice. Head - authority Lips - words Place names all mean something

The disciples settled into the field which was not their own. They had taken up residence in 'earthly Israel', they were still of the flesh. When the religious rulers demand they give back the people into their control, the disciples made themselves naked (exposed their own sin) or 'put off the flesh' in order to focus on the spiritual reality that the kingdom of God was a teaching of peace. The one who comes as a thief is Christ (1Th 5:2, 2Pe 3:10). The disciples prepared themselves spiritually so that hey would not lose their spiritual prize. The grain (seed) is always Christ. When he is ready, he will harvest quickly.