Limahong

Hi Steve, This thread raises the question - Is enlightenment really desirable? Started by Will, October 21, 2017 with this note: By enlightenment, I don't mean becoming a true sage or anything like that, but merely coming to realize basic Taoist "truths" (about how most dualities and desires are simply meaningless human inventions). I don't want you and I to be divided in the 'student-teacher' duality. Why? I just want to be your friend with us walking alongside each other. I like your direct nature - you grab a bull by its horns. At this point in time, this thread is into its 23rd page. Thus far, how many of its posts have taken into context Will's note? I am not addressing the desirability of enlightenment. Why? Enlightenment is too big a word for me. Simply - your friendship is more desirable. - Anand

Hi Steve, I will disqualify myself if I am ever asked to be your teacher. - Anand

Breadcrumbs - interesting trail. Good luck.

Exactly my point - no relation.

During Lao Tzu's or Buddha's time there wasn't any LSD.

Where am I? Who am I? Why am I lost? Then I relearn how to re-orientate myself.

Hi Steve, By focusing without a focus. The unfolding has no locus. - Anand

Man tries to open by seeking. By forcing - will add to failing. Man unfolds by inhaling whatever. And the release is never however.

Hi windwalker, Very true and thank you. - LimA

Hi dawei, Is it because you are now moving (or have moved) east per this flow stream ~ Jing => Chi => Shen ~ ? Or are you raising up north ~ thus? From your postings thus far, what you have not said is more important to me than what you have said. Why? Your silence has provided me an opportunity to go in search of my original self - undefined and unaffected by you. Thank you for your presence and absence - they have helped me to move with self confidence on my own road less traveled. Travel well yourself on your own road. - LimA

Hi dawei, All along I have regarded the chakras and dantiens as belonging to physical conceptual models for (a) common-paged discussions and (b) experiential explorations. Where complexity exits, such models can provide clarity and comprehension through visualizations. Chakras and dantiens experiential explorations pertain to personal roads less traveled. - LimA

Hi dawei, Are chakras opened through ripening and the ensuing sweetness comes as in the ripening of fruits? But they are different from fruits - we don't know when they will ripen? They have no seasons in the sun? - LimA

Hi dawei, Yes - no right or wrong with words. But you feel it is right and you are at peace? - LimA

Hi dawei, Apart from an association with 'processed emotions', chakra 4 is also a processor of emotions? Is chakra 4 more than the heart - physically? MDT does not stand alone. It is nothing without LDT and UDT? - LimA

Hi dawei, Deep roots are not to be equated with a 'rooted' me, as a person, if I am destined to grow and develop on a primordial plane. As such a person, am I rootless when my heart is in the wrong place. - LimA

Hi dawei, A tree destined to grow tall has deep/good roots. - LimA

Hi Ryan94, Please don't attempt this. Too short a cut - harmful. - LimA

Hi Aetherous, Concepts and models are delimiting - but we have to start from somewhere when searching for answers. But once we learn to walk the nascent conceptual steps meaningfully/steadfastly, we may want to move into a chosen path - a road less traveled in search of self. I find this enlightening - - LimA

Hi Dada-da, What if we put Marty and Hank together? Hi stovepipe, Thank you. - LimA

Hi Hanyue, Very good. Great. Respectfully to his/her respective own. Live and let live. - LimA

Hi All, - LimA

But... Peace gentlemen peace. - LimA

But of course.

Hi Dada-da, ... and now you are cultivating flowers in your garden... - LimA

Hi stovepipe, Just great. Why such speedy progress? Because... Good for you. Wear some flowers in your hair... Love over-writes/rides fear. - LimA