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Hi dwai, Perhaps you may like to correct "tadekam na dvitiyam" below 'dwai' on the left? - LimA

Hi dawei, Twenty nine words that speak volumes. - LimA

Hi dwai, 'Flushing' was used metaphorically within the context of the drinking posts. Nothing to do with the original post. Synonymous with 'tadekam na dvitiyam'? - LimA

Good morning dawei, I walked the line - Did I walked... - linearly or obliquely? - straight or crooked? - <=, => or both? - without falling? - without loosing my Way? - without loosing some jing? - ...? - LimA

What is OP? What is Tadekam na dvitiyam?

Hi dawei, Correction - three sharing two. Once we flush later... there is no-One, no-two... but three good friends? - LimA

Hi dawei, I am now sharing one can of beer with a friend - two sharing one. Care to join us? We will buy you one can. If you come, then it is three having a fine time on two. - LimA

Hi dawei, After drinking my coffee, the One cup disappears. Then after a little more, I will visit the washroom and flush it away. - LimA

Hi dawei, If a coin gets me One cup of coffee, it is all that counts. - LimA

Hi Apech, I like your . - LimA

Hi Wake2Sleep, Why 'willpower x 10' only? Shouldn't it be 'willpower x 1000...'? Lifelong learning? Study hard. A great story. March on. Welcome. - LimA

Hi Apech, My apology for posting an unimportant point. - LimA

Hi Apech, On a lighter side, I accept steve's input as converse statements. Perhaps steve is trying to share his understanding conversely. On a heavier side, destruction is good as it leads to creation. Please follow these: Ying and yang are not absolute as reflected thus: - LimA

Good morning steve, Sure - ying and yang are not absolute thus: So duality and non-duality - not absolute? Lord Shiva is the "destroyer of evil and the transformer" (Wikipedia). So the destruction of the bad is good? - LimA

Hi Steve, If everyone and everything are already dual, what does it mean to talk about non-duality and in what way does it exist? When we start a statement with 'if', we can always ask a question. Converse statements/questions can better balance conceptual equations. Language lubricates. It can be used to create new angles. But some angles can get too slippery and some converse check/balance is good to prevent falling down slippery slopes. The threat/asset equation is already there in Nature. But humans destroy what Nature creates? Such destruction divides - thus 'self' and 'other'? Is "I" a part of Nature? Ask the lions but don't get too close... Abstract thought is good if it creates; bad if it destroys. Bad management divides and rules. What is management? An abstract threat or asset? Yes. I second that. I understand Nature much much better experientially, rather than conceptually. 'Understanding' something incorrectly can be an 'obstacle'. Yes - practice over theory. Effective practice. Moving => => => closer to Nature and its essence? I find PEACE in the midst of these words. Yes - it is 4:30 am at my end. Time for me to sleep. I find your posts in this thread refreshingly clear and clearly refreshing (no duality/non-duality here). Will look into your other posts here another time. - LimA

Hi Steve, Images of Jing => Chi => Shen: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Anand

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Hi Steve, What if a small child fell in the path of the racer? The wild stallion will still keep on racing and hurt the child? - Anand

Hi Steve, What if strange fishes bite? - Anand

Hi Steve, It always welcoming to receive experiential perceptions/understanding of difficult concepts. They point to practitioners' personal accounts of their own journeys and not interpretations of some popular XYZ. Some interpretations may pertain to regurgitation of the popularity in question. An attempt to understand Shen from a present day perspective/context is timely. Good morning Steve, You have changed the thread title from 'Chi power' to 'Shen and chi power'. A natural progress from a practitioner's experiential perspective - to be shared openly, honestly and truthfully? What if you are challenged from other perspective(s)? - Anand

Cyber blackout. (Good night)

Hi dwai, Non-duality can be described in words, otherwise how do we communicate? Aren't we using words now? But words are context specific and have limitations, mixed significance... However I do not need words to communicate with myself. I have made known that One is not "I" to me. It is - One = mind-body as "an underlying non-separateness". Past + present + future - is a non-separable temporal continuum to me. Yes - with 'time' as an inseparable continuum and 'object-subject' as "an underlying non-separateness". In my blood and genetic code. dwai - once again thank you. - LimA

Hi Steve, It always welcoming to receive experiential perceptions/understanding of difficult concepts. They point to practitioners' personal accounts of their own journeys and not interpretations of some popular XYZ. Some interpretations may pertain to regurgitation of the popularity in question. An attempt to understand Shen from a present day perspective/context is timely. I am inclined to imagine so too. Perhaps our teachers are thinking of alpha males in the animal kingdom. Alpha males are not male chauvinist oinkers. They are shensitively tested/selected by the survival rules of Nature. No politics. Does sexism prevail in Nature? Is it a societal display designed by inhumans? I really cannot recall my teacher telling me thus. Fenced pasture is not Nature. Why is it 'cow' here and not 'bull'? Good definition. Can I enhance it a little thus? "It's a good attitude that comes from having good chi power". Acceptable. You are not exaggerating in terms of (a) the incessant flow of energy from the first to seventh chakras and (b) intuitive knowing. ... determination and courage plus passion... raging, charging, clearing... with... abandon restlessly. No fences and defenses. ... does not mean unpeaceful but PEACE? They say when you are ready, the teacher will appear. Black dragon meeting white dragon immortal? PEACE brother PEACE. Humble incorruptible power? You are understanding Shen from first account? - Anand

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Hi dwai, I have just arrived at the Non-duality block as an absolute new kid. Why? I had not thought of non-duality before in my life. I had a quick scan of the responses and I am very impressed by the quality of thoughts. But I choose not to be influenced by these learned/experiential thoughts as I want to know myself unaffectedly in relation to One. So I will not read the responses yet and engage here only your introductory post. I define One as "an underlying non-separateness" and not "a single thing" (as borrowed from you). Upfront Non-duality is qualified as not a "a single thing" for me and my premises re the bullet pointers are these correspondingly: - Non-duality can be described in words, otherwise how do we communicate? But words have limitations, mixed significance... - The mind can reach Non-duality but not necessary with words but through experiences, emotions, music... Each mind may reach Non-duality differently as each life is a road less traveled. - Non-duality means - (a) yes ~ to subject-object distinction but (b) no ~ to subject-object separation. Subject-object distinction/non-separation (as One) underlines my life experiences. Everything I experience is predicated on the Taoist subject-object duality. As One, I am experiencing objects subjectively because I am me. Others may experience the same objects differently because they are different from me. Each of our reality is One-based individually, to each his/her own. I respect the One's of others. My body-mind is my One - they are distinct but not separated. They rise and fall in tandem as One. "I" = my individual One. My answer - I am the moment linking the last moment with the next as One. I am the present One at any moment. Which comes first - existence or awareness? But in a fraction of a second, my answer will be this - "they are One and the same" (knowing that they are distinct but not separable - in that moment). "I" is object-subject ~ the One. I am my parents' reproductive cells; biologically my parent exist in me (being) and it is a biological fact (being aware). My children have my sperms. So biologically... I am the bridge between my parents and children as One continuum. I had good parents and have good children - I have One good blessed life. I am part of my parents and my children are part of me - we are a blessed One. My wife is One of us. We are all - One and all to each other. "I" is just an alphabet. What is an objective reality without its subjective elements and vice versa? They are One? My One is non-dualistic. It is more than one. "I" is the ninth alphabet - the simplest of the twenty-six. I embrace both Taoism and Buddhism a philosophies. I accept Buddhist impermanence. Past, present and future are not permanent - nothing is 'constant' for me. One is always there - before I was borne and after I am gone. Non-duality prevails in The Void - my model. dwai - Thank you for starting this thread. Your introduction has provided me with a mental framework for me to gather and air my thoughts. I will read the rest of this thread with my above thoughts in tow - to touch base respectfully with other thoughts in terms of One with others. - LimA