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Hi WuDao, Howdy? "Both, same time" - as in juggling? Or holding two opposing thoughts in the mind at any one time? - LimA

Hi oranssi, From your introductory indications, are you not potentially/actually a Taoist Bum? Perhaps our Seniors/Elders/Immortals can figure you out better. Are in harmony with yourself? Or are you pulled poles apart by your dualities? Are you grounded despite the "constant contradictions"? When you conserve in "infinity", do you also preserve in the moment? Thank you for starting this thread - but will you be the last to tie it up? I am asking these many questions with the good faith that you will preserve/conserve from now till eternity - your identity. Are you a Taoist linguist? Why? "Besides that all is poetry, and I like poetry because knowledge without emotion (hence biased) is sterile and has no use". Like your introduction - engaging. - LimA

Morning Marblehead, Keep on poking at others' funny bones. You give this forum a lightness of being. It is too early now at my end to prompt me to touch anybody's leg. I am also now not in the mood to touch anyone anywhere. Be warned - whoever touches my leg now will get a solid kick from me. Just try - nothing venture, nothing gain. But let me warn again - by touching me now, you have this to gain: PAIN. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, Actually when it comes to the WHAT, I can be pretty imaginative. But I am not telling. Why am I such a spoil sport? Because you left me high and dry with your Joe Turner video. When I clicked on it, I got this - 'this video is not available'. Why post a non-available video unless you bloody intention is to fluster? Damn it! Why am I so flustered? Because I got no answers to these unimaginative questions: (i) Why is Joe so high? (ii) What (who) is Joe riding? (iii) THAT look on his face - was it before, during or after the ride? Serve you right for being cookies-deficient. - LimA

Hi thelerner, Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Your prose has provided me with an easy template to gather and organise my own thoughts. I didn't have to rack my brain for a way out for words to flow in the style I like. Why? Because I already like yours - light and fluffy. I like chiffon cakes. Your style is like a recipe for me to bake my own cakes. Thank you. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, Humour is a hallmark of your postings. Good alignment with this from you: To me the yin/yang symbol is a figurative representation of cyclical comedies (everything has its flip-side). Taoism and Laotzu => humour? Please refer to the attached - "Exploration of Chinese humour". - LimA Exploration_of_Chinese_humor.pdf

Good morning Marblehead, When i put footprints and fingerprints together, I was thinking of traceability. During Chuang Tzu's time, fingerprints already known? Who 'discovered' fingerprints? "It is okay to touch if permission is granted". Touch WHAT? Your sharing - milk of human kindness. Thank you. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, You are a SERIOUS joker. High respect. Now I am at home eating cookies without milk. Why? Ran out of milk. Should I buy a cow so that I can have milk 24/7? No footprints - beautiful. How about fingerprints? Goodnight. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, When we find peace within ourselves, we come home more often? When we are at home, you stop wondering and I stop wandering? HOME SWEET HOME - LimA

We are already "home". We just need to stop walking around in circles. Hi Marblehead, If your "home" is within each of us, why are we "walking around in circles"? Because our minds obstruct us from our "home"? If your "home" is external to us, where is it? - LimA

But all roads lead to HOME? - LimA

I meditate in the midst of a transition. Yang pushes, Yin pulls. I stand, so positioned the tempest cannot belittle me. I struggle from moment to moment. And that is not enough.

I revisited this thread and recalled the above 100 days poem a gem. Can anyone internalize each of the 20 pointers and come forth with their own experiences/words? If there are sufficient responses, I will do the compilation (including mine). - LimA

Hi onelotus, Apparently you are a bum who loves buns, Make your own sweet lotus buns re this URL: Recipe looks pretty easy to me. Now you can have your fixes 24/7 (provided you are not a lazy bum). The above recipe features red bean paste; and if you prefer lotus seed paste (but of course) please use 'jing + qi + shen' to fish out the lotus paste recipe on Utube. Can you? Just in case others throw rock buns at me for not being serious @ TDB, can I defend myself with this my personal belief - Laotzu is a joker? Laotzu - 'is'? Yes -'is'. Why? He is an immortal - ask Starjumper Pamper your gullet with Oolong tea when chewing your buns. Oolong tea? Again ask Starjumper (aka The Black Dragon). - LimA

Hi onelotus, Jing = hook, qi = line and shen = sinker. Got it? Don't be a tasteless Daoist Bun (as in sweet lotus buns). Use jing, qi and shen to fish for the answer at the forum. Understand? Tee Hee Haw - - LimA

Hi Sudhamma, You are the perfect 9-pound hammer to reduce Marblehead to bite size pieces for cooking with the thrown rice. Don't eat the head; its content is contentious, contagious and transmittable. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, As a lotus, I believe onelotus will be too delicate to handle any hammer. A nine pounder? Forget it. Instead can onelotus use 'jing + qi + shen' to break the chain of cyclic existence.. ? - LimA

Hi Steve, A great thread and its title is just as great. I like the postings thus far and the inescapable wondering by Marblehead (colours of marble and moonbow). A few of the threads are pretty learned – especially those on I Ching. I tried embarking on a short I Ching course many years back at a local university. I got registered for its second intake which was subsequently cancelled. Why? The first intake was infested by fortune-tellers from a neighbouring country. I supported the cancellation because of the likely havoc these fortune-tellers might create. Most of them had already the gift of the gap; and if we were to enhance that gap by bridging their knowledge gaps, what further mayhem would they create? I Ching had escaped my attention henceforth till now. Is it time now for me to rekindle my I Ching interest again? Why? I get to meet the right teachers now to study hexagrams? I don’t understand one bit of these from daeliun: There are four timeless hexagrams, which are in operation in every moment. Heaven over Heaven ䷀ Earth over Earth ䷁ Water over Water ䷜ Fire over Fire ䷝ But I like daeliun’s metaphorical association of "crossing a great river" thus: "This could be something like interviewing for a new job, starting a family, traveling to a different country, an important business negotiation, and so on. These are not things one wishes to undertake in an unsettled state of mind and body". Perhaps daeliun’s associations are each considered within a manageable time frame. Maybe your - “I should sell out and move to a country further South or to stick it out here” – is also tendered temporally. In another posting I will shared how my own “crossing a great river” turned out to be a precarious “journey on a great river”. It stretched over > ten years. - LimA

Hi Sudhamma, Your PRE-CONDITIONS is quite encompassing. It is almost like starting a sentence with IF. IF samuel.savage had not started this thread, we will not be where we are now. IF Marblehead had not shared his inside joke with us outside, you would not have bitten his bait. IF you did not bite, then I will not bite sequentially thus. IF the PRE-CONDITIONS are 'good', will my life be 'really good'? Can we have any influence on PRE-CONDITIONS to make our lives better? IF so, can you please share with us? I cannot wait to re-PRE-CONDITION myself. A great weekend. - LimA

Hi dawei Will go with the flow wuwei-fully. Unpolluted water flows forward. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, There are significant philosophical common grounds shared by Taoism and Buddhism. A rose by any other names is still a rose. Let them bloom in your mindful garden. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, I have come across monks/nuns who were deadpan when first introduced. But they let their poker-faced veils down when friendship warmed. They are hilarious with middle-path humour. Sometimes I can almost see the glisten in their eyes when chanting and I walked by. I like any good joke any time, 24/7. - LimA

Hi Marblehead, I am a budding Taoist/Buddhist philosophically. What's wrong with onelotus telling me - "the 'real' objects exist interdependently"? Are you trying to cause a drift between the two of us, so early in the morning? It is 6:55am at my end. - LimA

Sure onelotus. The REAL objects do network among themselves (I humbly think so). And we mortal beings follow suit. Monkeys see, monkeys do. - LimA

Hi onelotus, I understand where you are coming from; I agree that thoughts of/on REALITY are just projections of it. No two moments of each of our life are the same, so no two thoughts of/on REALITY are the same? But there are REAL objects that exist independently or our knowledge of their being. THEY are non-dualistic. To OldSaint - "language always falls short when your trying to describe nondual things". - LimA