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Hi - I saw the Sun Ra thread get renewed and reminded me to post that I heard back from the producer of a new DvD documentary on Karmu, an amazing spiritual healer - an AFrican-American healer who lived by Harvard. The producer knows now how Jim Nance was a student of Karmu and how Jim Nance is now a qigong master and so the producer of the Karmu documentary has invited Jim to share more at a symposium planned at Harvard this fall. We shall see what happens. http://www.shaktitechnology.com/karmu/index.htm So qigong master Jim Nance was actually living with Karmu - or would stay at his house for extended time. I just ordered this new documentary - http://www.amazon.com/Karmu-Place-Janet-Giler-Lewis/dp/0966696948 All I know from what Jim has shared and reading about Karmu online - this dude was the real deal - he is described in the news interview as saying he leaves his body when he heals people - he first takes on their pain but then in order to heal himself, after he has taken on their illness - he leaves his body and he goes into this bright light. So also - people would see these beams of light shooting down from Karmu that would heal people, etc. Also if people want to get phone healings from qigong master Jim Nance just direct message me and I'll give you the phone number to call. He is charging directly now as he has officially retired but he will be doing various gigs related to qigong in the community directly now. Also qigong master Jim Nance told me today that I could post whatever I wanted on my blog, etc. about qigong so I figure it's o.k. for me to write this. I asked him if I can let people know to call him if they want to get phone healings and he said that is fine. p.s. I already got a DM about Jim doing phone healings and as I mentioned a professional athlete called me from Canada asking about phone healings. So I figure there's probably more people out there wondering how to get more info. thanks.

Yeah I just spent 5 days with Jim - and so he will have a website up soon for taking paypal for international phone healings. So his focus of the website is what he calls "Applied Emptiness" - so it's very much in line with stillness - just this morning I was ranting to him about politics and he told me he didn't want to listen to me so he just left out of his body. haha. Anyway so you can call him to get phone healings but you gotta mail him a check - I have an address you can mail to - just let me know if you want to do that. You can call him and then you'll already have the mailing address. Or you can wait for the website - should be up in a week or maybe later. thanks. http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2015/06/heart-sutra-healing-from-qigong-master.html

you get to the pineal gland via the right brain but through the pineal gland - the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality (Yuan Qi) is the connection to nondualism made - well actually it's the heart as the united origin of Yuan Shen-Yuan Qi. But the point being it is the pineal gland that creates a nondual connection as it is the emanation of the heart energy - and so when you see light outside your body - that is your qi energy connecting to the universal light energy that is the Oneness....

This new Nature episode on the Macque monkeys being eating to extinction... http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/the-funkiest-monkeys-the-funkiest-monkeys/8625/ this is a very heart-opening doc - http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/the-funkiest-monkeys-the-funkiest-monkeys/8625/

http://thedaobums.com/topic/25524-the-false-problem-of-species-extinction/page-2a thread a few years ago on thetaobums claiming species extinction is a false problem. Hilariously not funny.

http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_biodiversity/extinction_crisis/ with humans next - this means we are raping the ocean of the fish, the coral reefs dying off from acidification and algae "dead zones" and the plastic islands growing - with PCB carcinogenic pollution eaten by birds and fish. Not to mention vast clearcuting deforestation, toxic waste, nuclear radiation, land desertification, using up fresh water, depleting oil causing global warming, etc. The large mammals have stopped evolving since the 1970s. p. 132 Conservation and Evolution. https://books.google.com/books?id=NDQ4AAAAIAAJ&q=mammals#v=snippet&q=mammals&f=false So essentially Michael Soule, author of the above book, argues that the human species as the most new large mammal species is too naive, ecologically, to have the wisdom not to take down the rest of the species with us. In other words - modern humans are a genetic bottleneck - we are less diverse than chimpanzees are to each other and less diverse than bonobos are to each other (are closest primate cousins). So 70,000 years ago there was a supervolcano and only a few thousand humans survived. We lived ecologically for thousands of years but as we spread around the world 40,000 years ago - and then established agriculture 10,000 years ago we biologically lost contact with our ontological enlightenment roots. Modern white people are from monocultural wheat farming first started 9,000 BC - wheat farming lacking vitamin D and so is malnutrition, compared to fish diets off the coasts and eating meat organs from hunters. And so the modern wheat diet also causes not just malnutrition but it leads to unhealthy gut-brain interactions and the left brain dominance from phonetic writing shut off the modern human from the ecological balance - the spirituality in tune with ecology. So yeah evolution will continue but only in terms of the 3 billion plus years of life on Earth dominated by bacteria and mushrooms, etc. which can survive nuclear radiation. The evolution "potential" of life on Earth is in dramatic decline right now - probably the worst ever in the 3 billion plus years of life on Earth.

awesome vids Morninglight. So you are a Westerner in Beijing studying Tai Chi with real masters! Very cool. But the photo for your avatar is a bit ironic. I read of a Tai Chi master - in Master Ni, Huai-ching's book - he said the Tai Chi master in Taiwan won a contest and for the award ceremony was offered an ice-cold coca cola which he downed and died from the ice cold scorching his lower tan tien! Not to mention that coca cola corn syrup is the number one cause of obesity and the diabetics epidemic - which is now a global epidemic including China. there's a new doc you can watch on that called "Globesity." But I don't want to change the thread - I saw you have a website where you teach Tai Chi based on Master Zhang Yonglaing's style and give his bio there. Very cool. Thanks for sharing the other teacher also - the Dragon Tai Chi which also has a website for that style.

http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2014/08/youve-only-been-training-few-months.html

this is an interesting topic. So when I was studying Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and IMmortality recently - I realized that the Cavity of Pre-Natal Vitality as the pineal gland is what accesses Emptiness via "immutable thought." And so when the Yuan Shen is "turned around" - this is your ego spirit consciousness emanating from the heart and out of the prefrontal cortex - you turn that around to unite it with the Yuan Qi that emanates out of the heart into the pineal gland. So increasing the Yuan qi energy by focusing on the Emptiness via immutable thought (aka japa or vichara in the non-dual tradition) then also increases the yuan shen spirit light energy. In other words it is the Yuan Qi emptiness connection that actually creates the Yuan Shen consciousness light energy (as ego consciousness). Sri Aurobindo called this the three in one paradox as found also in quantum physics but Ramana Maharshi called in the "three in one unity." So for example the qigong master I studied with shared how his heart stopped for over 2 hours and yet he was walking around just fine. Now we know that for Ramana Maharshi when he heart stopped for over ten minutes he still maintained awareness and then a shot of qi energy shot from the right side of his heart to the left side, and re-started his heart. So we know from Taoist Yoga that the left side of the heart is the origin of yuan shen and the right side is the origin of yuan qi. We also know from the nondualist mind yoga jnana practice that you focus on the right side of the heart - again using logical inference as vichara. This is the left-side, left brain logical inference that, via the left side vagus nerve, is the deep reptilian vagus nerve to the right side of the heart and it can stop the heart when over-stimulated. But doing so willingly via meditation then enables transcendence of death while maintaining awareness as the "immutable thought" that goes into the Emptiness. And so we can think of immutable thought as actually yuan qi energy - what Ramana Maharshi called kundalini - and so this is what drives the spleen qi energy also. And so then this is a trance energy as immutable thought - it is pure Emptiness intention as pure qi energy-action and so as Emptiness-action it is the three in one unity via complementary opposites. Just as you can not see the formless awareness - the Yuan Qi bends spacetime and by doing so then creates the Yuan Shen as the ego spirit consciousness that also reincarnates or is reborn, and has past lives, etc. When the unification of yuan qi and yuan shen is strong enough then it creates more yuan jing - this is the secret of the White Tiger and Green Dragon copulation - and so this is also the three in one unity. I first read Dr. David Loy's book on Nonduality philosophy - his Ph.D. thesis - 15 years ago. So at first I thought of the Emptiness as a static realm that can be experienced - and since the Emptiness is in everything like manure, etc. then I thought once the Emptiness is achieved via Nirvikalpa Samadhi - then that it is - you have experienced the Emptiness and you know the Emptiness is equally in everything. this is actually a kind of nihilist view and I held onto that for several years as a kind of tantric view - there is just as much Emptiness in crap as in gold, etc. But in reality to experience the Emptiness is actually an eternal process of energy creation via the complementary opposites as harmonic resonance or purification of energy. And so this is why real Emptiness training requires full body transformation also via nirvikalpa samadhi - or as Master Nan, Huai-chin says unless you can sit in full lotus in ease for a long time - like 2 hours - not moving - then you have not obtained the Emptiness. Of course via mahayana Buddhism - there are different levels of emptiness as the complementary opposite of different levels of consciousness. And so our consciousness as yuan shen is also turning around - subconsciously - back into our subconscious intention as the Emptiness of yuan qi energy - or rather the Emptiness is that process of complementary opposites. So for example I have the experience - several times like this morning - when the very first conscious awareness I have at waking up - that very first thought - is actually the experience of my spirit light rising up from my lower body (my liver) to fill my brain and to cast light out of my eyes, as my "experience" of then waking up and looking out of my eyes! So then I know that conscious thinking and perceptions are very much dependent on this otherwise subconscious spirit light that is in the liver while dreaming but rises to the heart to emit out of the eyes while awake. And in fact, as taught in nondualism, this light projects out of a camera (our mind) but that the camera itself is like an empty box, a machine, our mind, or conceptual thought as it's said in mahayana Buddhism, and so from where does this light arise? This is of course very much the same teaching as Plato's metaphor of the Cave. We can not see formless awareness but we can listen to it. So the right brain that is aware of the spirit light has to be, and is very much, silent. This is proven by science even. Ramana Maharshi called it "sahaja samadhi." The qigong master told me, last time I saw him, that he had found out this secret that if he wanted to know the real meaning of anything then all he had to do was turn the thought around - to literally reverse the qi energy that the thought was based on - and this would create like a 180 degree spacetime black hole into the Emptiness that re-emerges 180 degrees differently back into conscious awareness as a white hole - light spirit awareness with the answer to the question! Of course we experience this day to day by when wanting an answer to remember something - we have to "let go" and stop trying and let it sink into our holographic subconscious spirit energy which stores all information and is "nondual." And so after we wake up from a blissful dreamless sleep state - then voila! The answer is waiting for us! I have seen the qigong master do this where he says, "let me go into the Emptiness" to check my aura. And so he uses his intention as his qi energy to go into the Emptiness - to turn his spirit light around 180 degrees as literally a spacetime vortex and then the qi energy increases his yuan shen energy reading of the aura light. So he had already picked up the aura light - just by the normal interaction. This is just as with quantum physics - once two photons interact then they already have non-dual signalling - superliminal, faster-than-light communication - but science has to test this "after the fact" by measuring it. So in meditation when we go into the Emptiness even the qigong master says you don't experience your own ego awareness - it is just like in deep dreamless sleep - only you have consciously chosen to travel into the Emptiness! And then the Emptiness guides you by harmonizing, instantly, the information it received, and providing the answer back! This is literally called the Law of Phase Harmony in quantum physics - by Louis de Broglie - and it really does prove there is faster-than-light information signalling that inherently is based on complementary opposites - in other words the nondual formless awareness guides the light signal - this guiding is called the "pilot wave." Scientists have thought this was just "theoretical" and in reality it's just a false construct of the mathematics. That is, until recently, when an experiment was set up that officially "disproved" Einstein scoffing at the notion of real non-dual awareness guiding information at a faster then light speed. Indeed by going into the Emptiness we can then get information from the future - but the only way to do this (and again this is how Kurt Godel, the logician, proved time travel is possible, is that it is not YOU that is traveling into the future, you can not have any desires to travel into the future, in other words. Only the impersonal yuan qi energy can travel into the future. And so if the heart has truly been opened up then this connection is made all the time - Ramana Maharshi called it the eternal I-I energy of the heart. So again that would be the Yuan Qi emanating out of the right side of the heart-mind soul and then connecting to the Yuan Shen as our personal ego spirit awareness and that process goes on eternally. And so as an internal process - the more we focus on it then the more Yuan Jing physical transformations occur. But on the other hand "we" are our yuan shen personal spirit consciousness don't need to focus on it at all if we have already achieved what Ramana Maharshi called "Mouna Samadhi" or silence samadhi, the highest samadhi. So there is no personal spirit ego intention at all - only the intention of listening to the source of energy itself - the Yuan Qi emanating as eternal energy transformation. Of course the Mahayana Buddhists say this is not far enough because the body needs to be transformed for real Supreme Complete Enlightenment - and so we can say that the full lotus body position enables a deep level of Emptiness while at the same time creates motion of energy that inherently resonates as complementary opposites energy - it inherently is transforming the holographic interaction of the body with the universe for the new creation of Yuan Jing energy. And hence the numerous physical transformation bodies are possible and mass healings around the world and around the universe even - and finally the dissolving of the personal physical body itself as the Yuan Jing essentially goes into like a black hole of the whole universe - and merges into the formless awareness itself of the Yuan Qi energy that will again create eternal transformation. So can we "function" in such a state? In reality the more shakti or energy transformations that are experienced, the less of "You" that is experiencing it! this is the true paradox of nondual training. It is the Emptiness itself that is manifesting through you and so you become an "empty" container of the energy. Of course this requires deep harmonization or purification training- the Emptiness is not some static state that is equally found in all things. No it is a process of harmonic resonance training - and so it is a fine tuning of energy that is very difficult to achieve and yet it is possible. So it is said only a half dozen people on Earth at any time have achieved this state of functioning while in the nondual reality - which means they have achieved the state of having their heart-mind permanently resonating into the Emptiness beyond death - with every breath they take! The problem with this is that the nondual philosophy is actually still based on the Vedic symmetric logic - for example I mentioned Ramana Maharshi saying it is the "I-I" awareness resonating out from the heart-mind. This is itself a symmetric analysis - I-I is like "one-One." And so there is already a built in axiomatic logic, like with Brahman defined as "I Am that I Am." The "that" being the formless awareness while "I" is your Yuan Shen intentional awareness and the "Am" is the yin/yang energy as complementary opposites (jing/qi) in this case). Another example of this is Mahayana Buddhism tells us the OHM sound naturally emanates out of the heart when the jing energy is converting to qi as the shen energy opens up - of the 2nd chakra. I have experienced this myself - hearing suddenly a loud OHM sound emanating from my heart while I was in a rainbow astral vortex of holographic energy - a nondual state. And so that is the "AM of the "I Am that I Am" axiom. The AM is the OHM - as the jing converting to qi or yin converting to yang energy. So the I-I state is the eternal state of Sattva spirit light emanating out of the yuan qi from the right side of the heart - and so the yuan qi connects a person from a post death reality back to the personal spirit ego of the yuan shen on the left side of the heart. Again if this is consciously focused on as the philosophy then more Yuan Jing energy is created - but if it is achieved as a real Mouna Samadhi state then it will also keep going on without any conscious focus on the energy. Mahayana Buddhism makes this distinction as an important one. For example you could create multiple yang shen (physical bodies) at the same time, as H.W.L. Poonja did for his birthday. As many people invited him to their houses and he didn't want to disappoint them. ONly he wasn't consciously aware that he had done this - he only found out after the fact! Now he was from the nondual advaita tradition which says that ONLY the Emptiness is real and so the fact that he personally, his Yuan Shen, was not aware of it - didn't matter that the Yuan Qi had been focused enough to create enough Yuan Jing for his multiple physical bodies. But in Mahayana Buddhism you need to be consciously aware of this action via a harmonization of consciousness (Yuan Shen) and Emptiness (yuan qi). And so for example as described in the Theraveda Buddhist monk biography of Phra Achran Mun - his meditation partner was levitating up in the air but as soon as he became consciously aware of it - then he would collapse back to the ground. So he had to train to maintain the nirvikalpa samadhi state while also being personally aware of the Emptiness energy - to harmonize his Yuan Shen so it did a 180 degree turn back into the Yuan Qi for this Yuan Jing transformation - and at the same time he could maintain awareness of this yuan shen transformation. So I would say - yes it is possible to maintain personal yuan shen awareness for the nondual reality but that it takes training and that is not necessarily needed - a good book that discusses this from a personal perspective is the book "Transcendent Dreaming" wherein a kungfu qigong student has physical transformations of other people, etc. via her dream state that goes beyond a lucid dreaming state and beyond even precognitive visions - she actually wakes up with physical jing transformations on her body still. Ramana Maharshi says we must use the mind (yuan shen) to kill the mind (yuan shen) and so it is through a sattva light experience that we then go into the Emptiness (yuan qi) even though we can not see the Emptiness and yet the Emptiness does create the light energy. And so what does this mean? It is referring - not too clearly - to the complementary opposites 180 degree transformation of what happens when we "turn the light" around back into the Emptiness - a kind of holographic mirror reality that turns things inside out and reveals their true secrets to us. It is not "us" revealing the secrets though - it is what some called God or Brahman or the Emptiness, etc. that reveals the secret. And so what is the formless awareness? It is precisely this eternal listening trance transformation of complementary opposites energy - a three in one unity of yuan shen into yuan qi into yuan jing. Or more precisely via Taoist Yoga alchemy training - yin jing into yang jing (yin qi) into yang qi (yin shen) into yang shen (yin jing). And so the nondual energy infinitely cycles like that. Ok so the spirit goes down to our liver when we close our eyes. the liver is the "green dragon" which means it transforms the yin jing energy into yin qi energy which then rises up into the lungs as steam vapor (yin qi) energy which then causes the heart (via the pineal gland and yuan shen out of the brain, via the sinus cavities and the tongue connecting the upper and lower front channels - the heart then has the "white tiger" descend into the lower tan tien - whereby the saliva of the white tiger, containing the green dragon energy (the yuan qi and yuan shen energy) thereby creates a yuan jing transformation which in turn increases the yuan qi energy of the spleen and the cycle continues. So it is said the True Intention of the Spleen is the secret of the training - and this is the intention of the Emptiness itself - the Yuan Qi energy manifestation so that it drives all the transformations - it is the root key energy that is the nondual awareness itself and yet to be aware of it requires the eternal three in one process of transformation.

Your "I don't trust".... attitude is understandable. there's a lot of old skool posters on thetaobums who insist that the qi stuff is fake until they see replicable standardized Western science proof - tested repeatedly under controlled conditions, blah blah blah. Then there's some more of us more open-minded people who say - o.k. you got some people making claims, let's go out and see for ourselves if this stuff is real! Guess what we discover? Well - I guess you're gonna have to do that yourself aren't you! haha. But first of all consider this. 1) This stuff is very rare but it is indeed real. Now then if you can accept that possibility let's not jump into some concrete information. Look at this 90 year old Shaolin qigong master (insert fancy Chinese term here, in your case it appears to be Neidan). His name is Haidan. He was the teacher of Yan Xin. So that video is him doing a one-finger hand stand. Have you seen any real kungfu masters do one-finger hand stands? Maybe there is one out there. But that is just the beginning. that video - and sure some think it's fake - but again consider the above - have you gone out to experience these people for yourself? I have! So I know it's real. O.K. so that video is a Shaolin training video. What does it also show? you can watch the whole video - the Haidan section is at the end. He throws people around - like they fly off - and with his one finger he also busts open thick cow leather hide punching bags - so the sand flies out. Have you seen any "hard" kungfu masters do that? O.K. maybe you have. I don't know. I can give more examples. The question is, are you willing to consider investigating this stuff on your own. I'm not saying that this stuff can even be found - by you personally. It's very difficult to find people who have this skill. Even if they do they may not demonstrate it. For example the qigong master I know - I was told by another qigong master - that the original qigong master did indeed blast apart marble block - just using his qi energy. But he only did it once because it was too violent. O.K. so the very first qigong master I experienced (Oh I'm sorry - maybe only the term "Neidan" is real to you). haha. - the first one was Effie P. Chow. She - and again I experienced her energy directly so I know she's real and at the end of the night - a big fat white lady wandered in - a security guard, totally befuddled, "Just wondering what's going on in here because the fuse got blown in the room behind you." HILARIOUS. Everyone was pretty much gone - this was at a small local private university. It wasn't part of a show. o.k. I was so skeptical before I went to that event I called to ask for a reduced admission price. I got half off - I paid $10. I could feel strong qi pushing my hands apart after Effie Chow filled the room with qi. Now Effie shared how if some muscle man is after her or something - she can take the person's strength and add it to her own! Now maybe you don't believe her. There happens to be demonstrations of her doing this - on youtube. So maybe that doesn't impress you . Maybe you want to see her in a ring - fighting some mixed martial artist or something. Like that fake Japanese dude who got his ass kicked. haha. Yes there are fake dudes out there (and nothing against the Japanese. . I won't go there). haha. O.K. so let's consider Yan Xin, the student of Haidan. Apparently the top kungfu master of Japan challenged Yan Xin to a fight. The Japanese dude could not even touch Yan Xin - his energy just made the dude fly away. Now we can't believe this stuff right? For example there is the Tai Chi master on the Bill Moyer's video. I looked into him after people wondering if he was real. His book is sold - on Amazon - I google reviewed it, etc. So it turns out that Jet Li - admittedly a real trained kungfu master right? Jet Li went to study with that Tai Chi master. What did the Tai Chi master say? You have to show up every morning at 5 am for three years before I even demonstrate my power on you. Now Jet Li couldn't make that kind of commitment. But that's what we're talking about here. I'm talking about this dude. So that Tai Chi master says he doesn't show his power on anyone else unless they first show up for 3 years every day. Why? because his energy is too dangerous otherwise and he doesn't want to hurt the person. Sounds like bogus right? Like more likely he needs to brainwash the poor dude so their will power caves in and they submit to whatever the master wants them to do - but it won't work on some just stranger martial artist. Right? I mean consider that fake Chicago black belt teacher who claims he can do his death touch or whatever - Fa Jing I think the Tai Chi people call it. I know we've had lots of threads on that topic here on thetaobums. Does anyone really think some Western white teacher can really develop this skill? Maybe he's got it on some level but not the real thing. O.K. for example the qigong master I was talking about - he shared with me - the original qigong master shared how they brought this Chinese Tai Chi master to the U.S. - and that dude was very real. The qigong master said the Tai Chi master could just throw the qigong master around and the TAi Chi master was very powerful! So the thing to realize is that a qigong master focuses on shen energy for spirit travel - doing yin shen healing whereas as tai Chi master focuses on qi energy for force. The qi as force guides the spirit - but for a qigong master it is the shen information spirit that does the healing. I actually saw the qigong master sending out yin shen after yin shen - out of his head. So he is probably not using as much qi energy but just enough qi to guide the yin shen spirit information to then heal a person. So if a person's qi intentions are fighting the shen energy - it is possible for a person's qi to resist the healing or resist whatever else the shen energy wants to do. On the other hand if the qigong master uses a lot of qi with the shen - then it can be dangerous or too powerful. So it's a matter of balance. For example in that John Chang famous video - it says he just creates a yin energy field to communicate with the spirit embedded in the magical dagger and then the dagger moves because the spirit is activated. But when he does his healing he is using more qi to zap people. Whereas the qigong master doesn't zap people but rather does a deep shen soul healing. In other words it's a higher frequency energy but has less amplitude. So there's Effie Chow demonstrating "empty force" power. Now I was told by the qigong master that the real tai chi masters who have this ability - they actually keep it secret - why? Because they want to store up their energy. They don't want to be unnecessarily challenged since it's a waste of their energy. It takes a lot of training to build up that energy. Haidan, the Shaolin monk, was known as the sleepless monk - he just meditated in full lotus all night long to build up his energy. http://www.scribd.com/doc/101462079/Yan-Xin-Secrets-Benefits-of-Internal-Qigong-Cultivation#scribd So this book by Yan Xin details how his energy has interacted with hard martial arts. But there are most demonstrations on youtube. http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2013/11/blog-post.html I actually compiled a list of videos on my blog. I was looking for one. It should be on my blog but maybe it got taken down from youtube.... Here it is - from my blog - Iron Palm of Shaolin - Master Yao. more vids on my blog. So I'm not saying that Neidan (insert fancy Chinese term here) is your answer for increasing your martial arts training. Subtle energy has to be stored up into qi - or Jing as it's called inTai Chi - and storing up and controlling this energy is very difficult - that's why the advanced training is done in secret, in monasteries, in retreat, etc. But if you want to trust it or not - depends on how willing you are to go out to discover it yourself.

Mae-Wan Ho (Ph.D.)Bioelectrodynamics Laboratory, Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, U.K., David P. Knight (Ph.D.) Dept. of Biological Sciences, King Alfred's College, Winchester SO22 4NR, U.K. [Nov. 2000], “The Acupuncture System and The Liquid Crystalline Collagen Fibres of the Connective Tissues: Liquid Crystalline Meridians” American Journal of Complementary Medicine (in press, 2000). o.k. so I'm not talking about "cultural evolution" but more again a biological ontological reality that predates humans - as I posted - the reptilian vagus nerve. Humans genetically are very similar to even plants. http://genecuisine.blogspot.com/2011/03/human-dna-similarities-to-chimps-and.html and so how does this relate to the Bushmen culture? Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, Press Release from The Institute for Science in Society. as I said - like plants even! So you want to discuss the cultural evolution of plants maybe? haha. Popp FA, Maric-Oehler W, Schlebusch KP, Klimek W, “Evidence of light piping (Meridian- Like channels) in the human body and nonlocal EMF effects,” ELECTROMAGNETIC BIOLOGY AND MEDICINE 24 (3): 359-374 2005

You're projecting some stupid theory onto me as a strawman argument. I'm talking about ontological biological evidence. You are claiming I proscribe to "cultural evolution" and so I think Bushmen have not evolved. First of all that whole concept of cultural evolution assumes evolution is a linear trajectory of "progress" - which is so wrong in so many ways it's not even funny. Secondly I never said Bushmen were more primitive! So you have projected onto me in more than one way. It is a denial on your part - an inability for you to deal with the specific concrete evidence I'm discussing. You say I am comparing the Bushmen to China. No I am doing a lot more than that. I'm discussing a universal ontological biological truth to modern humanity. Maybe that's a little too deep for you. O.K. so let's discuss your pet peeve - "cultural evolution." Again this is so idiotic it's a waste of time but for your sake I will discuss it. First of all the Bushmen genetically are the most diverse humans on the planet. I suppose you need me to give you sources and references. Previously you said you were going to read my links but so far you have not shown any evidence of doing so. Instead you want to claim I am arguing the Bushmen have not "evolved." haha. No I am not claiming that at all. That's not how evolution works! O.K. so Bushmen are genetically the most diverse. That's another way of saying that biologically they are the most sophisticated human culture on the planet and yes they are the original modern humans. It's kind of like a seed bank of diversity. You want biodiversity to maintain stability of any species or else you hit a genetic bottleneck - called "genetic drift." See a third of my undergraduate degree is in biology so I kind of know about this stuff. O.K. Linguistically the Bushmen language is the most complex - it uses the most sounds. that means that as the original human culture - all modern humans both genetically and linguistically are a smaller subset of the Bushmen culture. Does that make sense to you? Biggest set of information in no way means more primitive. Now if you want to get into some real minutiae of "evolution" debate - you can discuss the difference between phenotypes and genotypes for dating adaptations. But that is too sophisticated of a discussion - it's not even necessary for discarding a simplistic linear model of cultural evolution. I think what you are referring to when you say 19th Century is the meme "phylogeny begets epigenetics." - or something like that - it's from the evolutionary biologist who was the big main influence for the Nazi movement - he used fake data to justify his arguments - I'm talking about Haeckel. “Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.” Hold on - I got this in my pdf link. “Germany admits Namibia genocide,” BBC News, August 14, 2004 and Namibia: Genocide and the Second Reich, BBC documentary, 2005. “Drawing on recent studies of the links between empire, colonialism, and genocide, Nazi Empire examines German history from 1871 to 1945 as an expression of the aspiration to imperialist expansion and the simultaneous fear of destruction by rivals. Acknowledging the important differences between the Second Empire, the Weimar Republic, and the Third Reich, Shelley Baranowski nonetheless reveals a common thread: the drama of German imperialist ambitions that embraced ethnic homogeneity over diversity, imperial enlargement over stasis, and ‘living space’ as the route to the biological survival of the German Volk.” Shelley Baranowski, Nazi Empire: German Colonialism and Imperialism from Bismarck to Hitler (Cambridge University Press; 1 edition, September 27, 2010). O.K. so you want to discuss "cultural evolution" as if I am claiming a kind of "reverse racism" - as if I am practicing a Noble Savage projection onto the Bushmen as a kind of uber-mensch - a kind of linear trajectory back into time. The problem with this argument is that it ignores some very issues with the concept of evolution itself. Evolution was coined in the launch of the industrial revolution - the very kind of linear cultural progress based on technology that destroys ecology - such that we now have the worst fastest species extinction rate in the history of life on Earth! Again to quote my pdf book link O.H. Frankel, and M. E. Soulé. Conservation and Evolution (Cambridge University Press, 1981). I got a certificate in conservation biology through the INstitue for Field Studies in Costa Rica - a semester of college study in 1992. So yeah I've studied this stuff a bit - I have a master's degree studying this stuff. To point out that top conversation biologist Michael Soule has argued that evolution for large mammals ended over thirty years ago just creates an excuse for more apocalyptic fervor. In other words, humans, as large mammals, are technically, ecologically, not evolving, because of the ecological crisis. o.k. so much for your cultural evolution argument. It's already been disproven in the 1970s by conservation biology! Now let's look at what so-called cultural evolution really is for humans. First of all in the 1980s the Neo-Darwinian genetics revolution argued for a "selfish gene" model that once again justified a vast build up of ecocide as a new industrial revolution - the information age based on toxic waste, military imperialism, etc. So just as Haeckel justified the Nazi genocide WWII fiasco (and keep in mind in the 1930s eugenics was a leftist progressive movement along with sanitation!) - the NeoDarwinist was another lie about how DNA was a computer program with a linear reductionist top-down control of human behavior! For example black Africans are considered more violent because of their DNA, etc. This stuff was funded and guided by the CIA for social genocide. O.K. so it's still actually the dominant view of genetics and evolution - only now it's even more into eugenics by genetic engineering and doing gene screening and arguing that non-whites are more prone to certain diseases due to the genes (ignoring the massive toxic pollution as the dominant cause of diseases). Am I off-topic enough yet? Cultural evolution is a total joke. Now for the final nail in the head is E.O. Wilson's recent tome. http://www.literaryreview.co.uk/gray_06_12.php O.K. finally back on topic! John Gray wrote a prominent book promoting Taoism called Straw Dogs. He's reviewing E.O. Wilson's tome. As usual John Gray hits home. So - let's review my points. The Bushmen as the original culture are the foundation of what it means to be a biological modern human. It has nothing to do with any kind of notion of cultural evolution - rather it's more akin to quantum biology based on the Law of Phase Harmony - there is an ontological reality beyond spacetime itself. Another great Taoist biologist scientist to refer to is Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, author of the Rainbow Worm - which directly refers to what I just posted about - the "rainbow serpent" of the Bushmen training as kundalini N/om energy. I have previously posted on Dr. Mae-Wan's research in detail. So first of all we have the trance dance training - much like Tai Chi - but trance dance is found around the world! Then we have the deeper quantum spirit energy connection: Hold I'll get to that.

So then the http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDUQFjAEahUKEwi6l77V8ITGAhUREJIKHRNNANw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fradicalanthropologygroup.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fpdf%2Fclass_text_041.pdf&ei=XQx4Vfr0JZGgyASTmoHgDQ&usg=AFQjCNFqZbSqnSXXi8o43cnVvbwinL2trA&sig2=jkHKOwNEDkDOlkEF4atOTg&bvm=bv.95039771,d.aWw&cad=rja pdf link - for Christopher Knight's analysis from his tome Blood Relations. Essentially the older language is the more musical is - and the trance dance songs are based on known gibberish - it is the emotional power of the music with the females singing all night as transmitting their kundalini N/om energy - their yin jing energy that is then taken up by the males doing trance dance and transformed into the yang qi energy - sent back via the trance unification of yuan shen and yuan qi. And so female humans are the only primates that precisely synchronize their menstruation cycle with the lunar cycle - when females are in natural, connected to the Earth, as the moon governs life on Earth via the water and gravity energy. The problem is Western science can not fully understand this - due to the inherent symmetric phonetic logic of the ritual mass sacrifice mind control. But essentially then when human language was created it was based on this sex strike mentality to trick the males into having to bring back meat for the females to restore their iron lost from the big-headed premature birth of the humans. And so the original trance dance is the female menstruation dance for her first menstruation when she is full of N/om. This origin of the "rainbow snake" N/om energy is very brilliantly analyzed by Dr. Keeney from his first-hand discussions with the Bushmen spiritual masters. and so the trance state has to be in secret because it's based on right brain dominance which can not speak - but can listen. And so this corroborates how the intestinal neurons are 2nd only to the brain - there are more neurons in the intestines than in the heart and so the lower tan tien is based on this unification of light-spirit energy with electromagnetic energy - the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality - as it's called - or the conversion of jing into qi to open up the 2nd chakra.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjABahUKEwjc2Iiw7oTGAhVMN6wKHdrmAGY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkeeneyinstitute.org%2Ffiles%2FDancingNom.pdf&ei=9gl4VdyFEczusAXazYOwBg&usg=AFQjCNHyes-9srJrwR2wrXYFpcLtLrAh9w&sig2=JaDiTMQoWRkk1lWmUIFvxA&bvm=bv.95039771,d.b2w pdf link on dancing N/om. So that Garden of Eden doc says the secret meaning of Jesus is fire. This is also the secret meaning of the Pythagorean Tetrad - Pythagorean literally means snake worshipper and the Tetrad literally means "creative fire" as its secret meaning. This sacred fire as kundalini energy is also the secret N/om serpent energy from the Bushmen culture - the boiling energy of the lower tan tien. When the doc says the kundalini can not be activated by a single person - this is a bit misleading. haha. So when the doc says the number 9 is the secret of sex energy - the number 9 is the number of eternal growth in Taoist - the yang energy - as it originates from the tetrad as eternal energy creation - 2:3:4 is nine. It is the secret of the pyramid without the capstone - but not having the 1 as a closed system - the Tetrad remains open as eternal energy of complementary opposites, 2:3 is yang and 3:4 is yin - as the winding serpent energy.

So I'm watching that Secret Gate of Eden doc - is focuses in Ida and Pingala as ancient celibacy symbols for kundalini - as a transcultural winding of two serpents that go up the spinal column - and this is the secret meaning of the Garden of Eden. Actually this was pointed out by Yukteswar, the full lotus guru master of Yogananda - and so we can surmise that the tree of knowledge is the third eye while the tree of life is the lower tan tien energy and the fruit is the jing energy and the snake is the kundalini. What happened though is that God is the heart that is closed off by the mass ritual sacrifice priests of the Solar Dynasty empires - that is why this knowledge became elite tantric knowledge. The discovery of the orgasm or sexuality - as procreating without the Elohim - the gods - is then described as the "fall of man" from the garden of eden. And so - God saying you can only have the tree of knowledge is actually the left brain mind control dominance of literacy based on symmetric axiomatic logic of phonetic language, "I Am that I Am," as the definition of God for Judaism and for Vedic philosophy, Brahman. God actually originates from the Indo-European root Gott which means Bull just as Brahman also means Bull. So the left brain dominance cuts off the right brain dominance which has the right side vagus nerve that connects down to the lower body kundalini energy. It is the left side vagus nerve that connects to the heart - that is called the "direct path" in Jnana - using left brain logical inference as the direct path to the right side of the heart. In Taoism alchemy this is taught as the Yuan Shen channel of energy - the left eye, the left side of the brain, is the manifestation of the lunar dragon heart energy. It is the right side of the heart that is the secret Yuan Qi source and so the left brain needs to be emptied out via this "direct path" until the kundalini energy is activated - this was detailed by Ramana Maharshi in his tome - using mind yoga to activate the kundalini energy as the secret Vedic training. But again that relies on elite esoteric detachment from mainstream culture - and so the Brahmin priests literally had to do a 3 day cleansing ritual if they just had eye contact with females. This is because, as from Taoist alchemy, the yuan shen and yin qi energy as the "heart's fire" - shoots out of the eyes and causes the separation of the tree of knowledge and tree of life - because the lower tan tien tree of life is ONLY activated through Emptiness focus. Any thoughts about reproduction cause the yuan qi emanating out of the pineal gland (from the heart) to then shoot yuan qi down the spine to convert the Ocean of Qi into generative fluid. The secret of purifying the energy is based on the Quick Fire method - fast deep reverse breathing - which was activated by the trance dance training of the original humans. This is described as "impersonal erotic energy" by Bradford Keeney discussing the Bushmen culture. So the original training is for the males at puberty, when their life force energy is strong as yuan qi, to go into seclusion away from the females - for a month of trance dance fasting away from the females - where the male spiritual masters then send in the spirit energy - like Shakti transmission - into the younger males to purify their energy. So when this documentary disses the "orgasm" - it actually should be against ejaculation because physiologically it is only the male ejaculation that causes the trigger of the nervous system to switch from parasympathetic for charging up energy - to sympathetic stress energy. Robert Sapolsky, Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers (Holt Paperbacks, 2004), p. 124. So the doc doesn't differentiate between female orgasm which stays in the parasympathetic nervous system and male ejaculation which triggers a switch to the stress system. This is just a biological and ontological truth - and it is found in the original human culture as the Tshoma training - to increase the "staying power" of the male. So the Taoists call it the "anal breathing" by flexing the anus you connect the lower magpie bridge - just as important as the upper magpie bridge of the tongue against the roof of the mouth - so that the front and back channels are connected and this anal flexing then causes the energy to go up the spine. But only through Emptiness meditation is the energy purified to increase the actual yin qi energy stored up via the parasympathetic nervous system - via the heart since the left brain vagus nerve goes to the heart. So only by Emptying out the conceptual left brain mind does the left side vagus nerve to the heart get activated to purify the upward vagus nerve of the right brain from the kundalini energy. And so the two vagus nerves are the origin of the two winding serpents. To say mankind were cast out of Eden - and so this is actually the male fear of the female being yang internally. Science proved in 2004 or so that females have the cervix orgasm from the vagus nerve connection to the cervix - because females with spinal injuries can still have orgasms. And so it is the yin qi energy that activates the vagus nerve to cause the orgasm. So actually the original human culture has what's considered the oldest religious statue - it's in a cave on a hill called N/om - and the statue is a snake as the N/om energy. Some archaeologists date it to being from 70,000 BCE. But the Earth energy being constantly hit by lightning is the secret of Mother Earth as the source of yin qi energy. This is called Earthing - it causes an internal tingling sensation as the yin qi energy neutralizes the free radicals in the body. https://www.apollon.uio.no/english/articles/2006/python-english.html The Python initiation is actually the secret of the Freemasonic blacksmith training in Africa - the original alchemy training. In Egypt it's called absorbing the power of the crocodile - but essentially it means that the trance state of !Kia - the original Bushmen term for sending out the spiritual energy - is when the eyes are frozen - and united - the yuan shen and yuan qi energy - and then the energy transmits out of the older reptilian brain. The left side vagus nerve direct path to the heart as the purified energy is actually the reptilian vagus nerve activated for the frozen fear response. In other words when reptiles play dead - in frozen fear - they are actually also transcending death - and so this is dangerous for mammals to activate this deep vagus nerve response. It can actually kill a person which does happen sometimes in deep trance training - there is a medical term for this when the parasympathetic vagus nerve is overactivated and so shuts down the heart completely. But for the Jnana mind yoga training - this stopping of the heart is down consciously so that death is transcended directly. The Bushmen knew this also - saying that the deep trance is transcending death directly.

Unfortunately this comment is an example of arguing from ignorance - you have made assumptions of knowledge despite not having investigated the Bushmen culture. Also the point you are making has been made by others on thetaobums but since you're new then I guess you missed it. My book has more details but I'll post you the quotes. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QFjAAahUKEwiOoqz14oTGAhXHI6wKHc2GABs&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gearslutz.com%2Fboard%2Fattachments%2Fmoan-zone%2F279031d1330198691-retune-your-music-444-old-tuning-standard-alchemy-rainbow-heart-music.pdf&ei=8v13VY7hFMfHsAXNjYLYAQ&usg=AFQjCNHfPsV52pcAYbRCVTLkEboCjazrng&sig2=_cbDI-742UeUe6XL5dr-kA pdf link - you can word search it. Interview with Elizabeth Marshall Thomas, Paula Gordon Show (Peterborough, New Hampshire, July 19, 2008). So not only have the Bushmen retained the same trance dance songs from before human language was invented!!! But there are also still living spiritual masters of this tradition. http://www.amazon.com/Ropes-God-Experiencing-Spiritual-Universe/dp/0918172403 This book Ropes to God is in-depth interviews with the spiritual masters of the Bushmen and it corroborates the origins of the spiritual training of the East as based on celibacy. Actually Dr. Keeney, a recognized Bushmen master healer, has focused on the female healers - as the Bushmen recognize, again that the origin of this energy, N/om (boiling heat behind the belly), is female. So he has several interviews on youtube with Bushmen master healer and the Bushmen have a tradition of creating yang shen bodies - which is the advanced Neidan stage of training (insert fancy Chinese term here). http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCgQFjABahUKEwi0yNnk5ITGAhUOCJIKHd5MALY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fkeeneyinstitute.org%2Ffiles%2FBushman_Way_Tracking_God_Excerpt.pdf&ei=6P93VbS0Eo6QyATemYGwCw&usg=AFQjCNHPTaAw9hp5DaVONZzVI5SGl880WA&sig2=20sXNvzLQzEINpTcGQLcpA&bvm=bv.95039771,d.aWw&cad=rja So that's a pdf link for a Bradford Keeney report on the Bushmen healing knowledge

yeah that's nice - real poignant reply. So you may have noticed this reference was something the author had "discussed elsewhere." Did you notice that? Maybe not. So what was that elsewhere? Oh just a doctoral thesis. And what were the main sources for that thesis? Gee the same co-founders of the secret Neidan school! haha. Hilarious. So the co-founders of the Neidan school apparently just made all this stuff up. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp%2Fnfile%2F1323&ei=YMRzVbG4L8m3sAWD1gE&usg=AFQjCNH4Hye9aiA-Pf92EW_t2q6jct-aCQ&sig2=9UNN5r8mRupbSibynHGK3Q&bvm=bv.95039771,d.b2w pdf link Better yet that you "really hoped" this book would be translated into English. http://thedaobums.com/topic/15824-ling-pao-pi-fa/#entry214870 So what is it then? The author previously discussed the terms in a book that you really hoped would be translated into English based on idea that were made up? HILARIOUS! I guess you found those ideas finally but maybe you haven't heard "good things" now. too bad.

By the way you make false accusations in real life and it can get you in some serious trouble. You can get sued etc. So you can thank me for correcting you. If you want to accuse someone of making stuff up, provide some evidence. 143) Cf. Procédés secrets du joyau magique,. So who's making stuff up now? Apparently only the people making false accusations and not providing any evidence. It's not just someone's opinion. Claiming that I'm just making stuff up is calling me a liar. I have thoroughly disproved that claim and so Aetherous is now a proven liar on thetaobums. In the future - if you want to accuse someone provide some evidence.

141) DZ>£913, iasc. 591, 18b. So maybe you want to contest the translation? You gotta a better translation maybe? Or maybe you claiming I am making stuff up is a BIG LIE.

So you people gonna engage with the text of the op link or you gonna make stuff up? You gonna just troll this thread or you gonna provide some evidence? 140) DZ 1032, fasc. 677-702, 63.1b-2a.

Apparently you got some basic reading comprehension problems. I clearly stated I was referring to the link from the original post for this thread - So if that link is somehow disputed you gotta show some evidence for it. Accusations without evidence are false. that's called libel and slander - depending on the intentions of the lies. Accusing someone of "just making something up" is the same thing as accusing them of lying. Providing evidence that someone has given a false accusation is providing evidence that they lied about you. That's called intellectual self-defense. Big difference.

See the dude is not just making things up! He's an academic. It's a peer-reviewed journal. It's not just his "opinion." It's objective reality - actual translations.

At least have the courtesy to address me directly. So now you and Brian accuse a scholar quoting alchemy texts as just having an opinion and making things up. Nice! What a pathetic joke. I posted the quotes. Willful ignorance can only go so far. I'll now post the references. You people ask for it.

And so now I have provided the evidence that proves you are a liar.