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The text of your school founder refers to the "external kidneys" several times - that is the genitals indeed. There is a footnote after lower body. "That is, the genital area." p. 77. footnote on page 44 "In reply, he said, "In the method of refinement where the True Seed is produced and the dharma-wheel is thereby obtained, it is none other than the count being complete and the external kidneys not lifting." page 72. "As for the correct Tao, ...then the external kidneys absolutely do not rise or move." page 74

http://www.scribd.com/doc/221295734/Eva-Wong-trans-The-Tao-of-Health-Longevity-and-Immortality-Chung-Lu-Ch-uan-Tao-Chi-pdf#scribd Wow - this is a great reread - I read this long ago but now it's making more sense. thanks.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/221295734/Eva-Wong-trans-The-Tao-of-Health-Longevity-and-Immortality-Chung-Lu-Ch-uan-Tao-Chi-pdf#scribd Wow - this is a great reread - I read this long ago but now it's making more sense. thanks.

Effie Chow - the best known female qigong master in the U.S. haha. You're funny!!!!!! Reread my posts. Also I'm sorry that you're not a happy customer. Good luck shopping somewhere else.

https://books.google.com/books?id=AkcSBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63&dq=International+Qigong+Science+Exchangement+Center,&source=bl&ots=oIwCLMWIa_&sig=NWASynmd-CJYTGYpgJqQnnu1FRs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SJ5vVe7SAsG-sAW7xIO4Aw&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=International%20Qigong%20Science%20Exchangement%20Center%2C&f=false pdf link Chinese Medical Qigong By Tianjun Liu That googlebook page goes over the change from the science of qigong being official in 1985 and then in 2000 it was cracked down on.

http://www.qigongparis2015.com/en/event.html

Because as I stated - qi is inherently based on non-dual philosophy whereas Western science uses symmetric-based logic so that infinity is inherently a closed materialistic mathematics, aka irrational magnitude. So the Chinese tests were not considered rigorous by Western standards. But then the "gold standard" Western science tests aka randomized controlled are also rejected by the skeptics. Why? Because Western science itself is not objective - it is also its own materialistic religion based on Freemasonry essentially. We are raised to think Western science is objective but that is a lie.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftseqigongcentre.com%2Ffileadmin%2Fuser_upload%2Fgraphics_from_client%2FResources%2FArticles%2FSifu%2520-%2520Articles%2FDaoism%2FWangLiPing_Q43.pdf&ei=rJtvVeG5EY6PyASvy4HACg&usg=AFQjCNEcFBP2R2JGEfyQHvoyWZNFLm3frw&sig2=qBPNdxU48wdeFsB63R8SXQ&bvm=bv.94911696,d.aWw&cad=rja pdf link, part 3 of Qi Magazine on Wang Liping

http://www.silveryhat.com/a-true-story-of-the-18th-dragon-gate-sect-qigong-taoist-wang-li-ping/ Here's the Qi Magazine story on Wang Liping.

qigong fever gives more details on the national restructuring of qigong https://books.google.com/books?id=RXeuibmD2dsC&pg=PA340&lpg=PA340&dq=Chinese+Modern+Qigong+Masters+Dictionary&source=bl&ots=aMHjthekGX&sig=mJmBa2B2ls0kp8IXgOsIXhiEVE0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IJNvVd3tB4eoyATQsoHADQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=national&f=false googlebook link

http://www.nianli.ca/html/more_on_master_he.html

http://www.yuantzerenxue.org/yuan-tze-ren-xue/yuan-tze-bio/

http://www.chinaqigong.net/english/qgsk/sc.htm http://www.chinaqigong.net/english/index.htm yeah that's a new website for me - list of qigong masters in China.

http://www.chinaqigong.net/english/qgsk/hyj.htm that's from 1998 - so 1999 there was the big crackdown on mass qigong movements. I don't know how much that changed the official testing of qigong masters in China....

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lvnApDPuavAJ:www.item-bioenergy.com/infocenter/chinesechiresearch.doc+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us So that gives an idea of who in the government is behind the national certification process....

your personal doubt is the most valued commodity on the planet - the Westernized consumer skeptically dismissing a product without really nothing anything about it. http://www.qigongresearchsociety.com/

I increased up to 225 bench by 5 x 5 starting 100 pounds lighter. But I lift now based on emotional energy. When I suck in someone's anger then my pineal gland registers that as "extra" energy. Instead of getting angry back at them I just go bench press the anger to turn it into muscle. It's amazing how much more strength you have from anger which is really just a liver blockage of too much liver energy. But Chunyi says that after 45 years old a person can too easily burn out their liver energy from lifting. So I would say eat 6 eggs a day - organic - since genetic engineered feed will be deadly I think. But then again - without the emotional motivation I think it gets old fast. Like the kung fu movies are almost all based on revenge - or righteous anger of some sort. Warrior becomes a monk but the monastery is trying to train his mind to not be controlled by anger. Yan Xin details in his book how he charged up a weight lifter and suddenly the dude could lift like 10 times as much - some huge change. Just look at his master Haidan - this old little dude and he can bust through thick cowhide leather bags with just his fingers and he does one finger head stands. The power of qi is so way beyond muscle - qigong master Jim Nance told me how he moved a whole van with his hand just using qi - no muscle - pushed the van up a hill. But yeah bench pressing is a very quick Quick Fire method - fast deep diaphragm breathing for purification - what Arnold called the orgasmic Pump - it turns the generative fluid back into "yin jing" energy - as is known the testosterone levels increase, albeit temporarily. So in just a minute of 5 reps you can exorcise a lower emotional blockage. That is a very impressive turn around of energy.

Effie Chow criticizes the "national treasure" level by the Chinese Government - says the government controls their movements and tries to control the qigong master - like how Yan Xin can no longer do mass healings - and also the Chinese government is against the female qigong masters. here's another "national treasure" Grandmaster Weizhao Wu's lineage. http://www.masterteresa.com/ New to me - looks cool.

They have "national treasure" recognition like for Yan Xin and Juemin, the teacher of Michael Lomax and others. As for who does the tests - I'm sure it varies depending on the political situation but there have been many different qigong institutes set up in China working with the universities, etc. http://www.zenwellness.com/masters-council/ Here's another one: so obviously the government has to approve of that. There are I think only five actual qigong practices that are approved by the government of China. Correct me if I'm wrong. I know one is the 8 Brocades practice. I could look it up. But yeah the Chinese government tries to control qigong closely and of course conducts mass torture against the banned qigong movement Falun Gong and the Tibetan followers of the Dalai Lama and other banned qigong schools.

http://thedaobums.com/topic/18215-events-of-taoist-master-wang-liping/page-5 another Wang Liping thread with more details

I think it's fine to compare Wang Liping to other meditation masters. John Chang is a good example of what I'm talking about. Yes he did tests for skeptics and his video is the most viewed of any (insert fancy Chinese term) master out there. But my point is that the student has to train to be able to take in the energy that the master can give and it's more difficult to find a good student than a good master. So what was the effect of that video being shown and various Western students trying to study with John Chang? we all know the effect as it's been discussed at long on thetaobums. So this energy based on nondual consciousness is also interactive. The idea that Western science studies are different than skeptics studying them is funny - because Western science standards are objective while the skeptics have been proven to use fraud. The skeptic community is filled with fraud and so they also reject Western science. For example the study of Chunyi and Jim Nance - it was a "gold standard" science study by one of the top medical research hospital scientists - "gold standard" means it was a "randomized, controlled" study. That level of science is accepted de facto. But instead the skeptics make all sorts of funny excuses that are absurd. So it's a matter of philosophy of science. If you de facto do not accept the logic of formless awareness from logical inference then you are not able to really investigate it. I just posted the link for Herbert Benson's study of full lotus meditation masters. That is again western science - objective results achieved. The studies of Yan Xin, another full lotus Buddhist master, are also published in Western science journals. So if people want to practice willful ignorance that is their choice. On the other hand - you can even go to high level spiritual masters but if you don't practice and purify your energy then the results can be limited. The results are a combination of effects - and so it is always interactive. It's not a "dead" methodology as Western science is based on standardization, destruction and commodification. The training of John Chang is really very similar to Wang Liping - you build up the lower tan tien energy - just as Chunyi also teaches. Western science confirms this since the "second brain" is the intestines and stomach with 100,000 neurons - more neurons than the heart! So it makes sense that visualizing light in the lower tan tien and focusing the energy there - closing the lower magpie bridge, etc. sitting in full lotus or doing horse stance, etc. - it creates the yang energy underneath the yin energy and that is the basic principle of alchemy. There is also Wim Hoff - a Westerner who studied meditation in a Thai monastery and he also does full lotus tummo and he's been well tested by both skeptics and western science and he describes the same principle of training. As for the price - well the thing that makes the training so difficult is storing up the energy. Even the qigong (or insert fancy Chinese term here) masters can have their energy drained at a faster rate than can be recharged. So charging money keeps people sincere in the training. Why would someone willful submit themselves to abuse - that would be stupid. The qigong (insert fancy Chinese term here) trainers traditionally did martial arts first and qigong last - because first you got to fight off the pervs and bandits, etc. who are jealous and want to take your energy. Keep in mind that a Wall St. prostitute gets paid $1000 an hour and all that is - a male ejaculation session. Personally I would much rather experience the spiritual energy of a qigong master - and it's cheaper! But still considering that 40% of people in the U.S. make $15 an hour or less - and the U.S. has the worst income inequality of any developed country with 400 people having the same wealth as 150 million people - I can see why it's difficult to afford access to the spiritual energy. The book "Qigong Fever" by David Palmer covers this dynamic in China in great detail - the government of china enforced high prices for the legal qigong societies as a means to control them to keep it from becoming a political mass movement that threatens the power of the Communist Party. So in the same way the Communists have fake Tibetan Buddhist empowerment ceremonies with their own fake installed Lamas, etc. Basically spiritual training has been commodified into a fake New Age experience. But then that is also the mindset that Westerners approach the subject. People shop around for the "best" master and whine about it online - like they're at the Mall with their Mom and they can never be satisfied. I call it Mall Science. I know that Chunyi had to do rigorous tests and then was given the international certification as a qigong master by the government of China - these tests included taking in household electrical power and changing the power of it - and also ingesting deadly poison and transforming it..... also accurate long distance healing and precognition tests..... I assume Wang Liping is certified as a qigong master by the Chinese government and so he would have to do similar tests.

I read the biography and it matched perfectly the training that Chunyi did. The first thing Wang Liping had to do was 4 hours of nonstop full lotus without any movement at all. Can anyone on this forum do that? Then yin-yang water is featured in the book for storing energy for healing. Chunyi also uses this method. Wang Liping also levitated during his training. Chunyi also did this. Wang Liping went back to "normal" life but he spends half his night in full lotus meditation. So does Chunyi. Finally Wang Liping says to restore your Yuan Qi you need 6 hours of full lotus meditation a day - on a hard surface. That completely makes sense - Chunyi says if you want to see if someone is a real master just see how long they can sit in full lotus in ease. As for the cost - students from Wang Liping's seminar seem to report fast results and so they are receiving energy. There have been some of these testimonials posted online - that I've already posted on thetaobums. There are past threads on this. http://thedaobums.com/topic/22053-grand-master-wang-liping-ten-day-private-intensive/page-4 yeah that thread. http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2012/jan/13/notes-chinese-cave/ that thread only has that link as a review of a retreat of Wang Liping - but pretty superficial. Oh I remember now - I was thinking if Master Zhang. Oops. Anyway I would say you will get out of it what you put into it. The teacher can only give you energy at a level that you are able to handle it - your mind. To do that you have to build the foundation of the lower tan tien. Like I did 6 hours of meditation - 4 to 6 a day before the LEvel 3 retreat of Chunyi - 15 years ago. ONly then could I see him creating multiple yin spirits to heal people and also I could see dead people float into the room to get healed by Chunyi. But that was only because my energy was very purified. I even fasted a week before hand - just taking a half glass of water. I wanted to be prepared for his teachings. I had practiced celibacy for months and had been on a vegan/vegetarian diet for 15 years and I was 29 years old. You want "reliable" testing - my take is Wang is using a religious perspective from organized Taoism. The Yan Xin science tests of qigong are being done through Harvard in the West. Chunyi did science test through the Mayo Clinic. But even still the skeptics claim that the medical doctor fell prey to placebo effect! Hilarious. Skeptics will do anything to be in denial - unless they have a mass replicated consumer product. You can do that in qigong - de facto - since by definition it's based on a non-dual consciousness that we are all part of - it's inherently interactive.

yep. so... http://www.apfn.org/apfn/pollution.htm pollution makes people more violent by messing with their hormones?

https://vimeo.com/28294691 funny - weight lifters probably got that androstenedione idea from female hyenas. what's it do? convert them back to having clits. haha. Hilarious.