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it has been proven that babies naturally sing and like the perfect 5th and perfect 4th music intervals. Yes the mind control against babies is started at an early age. Modern humans are based on a "contained" materialistic infinity so that babies are exploding in population - exponentially. This exponential growth of babies is based on changing the harmonics of music from an infinite arithmetic resonance like ecology - into a closed logarithmic "irrational magnitude" geometry - called the Greek Miracle. So we are immersed, submerged in mind control by Western logarithmic-based music without even knowing it. Meanwhile as the world is Westernized - via this mind control music and its logarithmic-based technology - the explosion of babies continues - with their subsequent use of exponential growth in energy use, etc. You listen to birds - and the natural overtones go into dissonance in the upper harmonics - birds do multiphonics and so sing in chords, etc. but it is their natural higher harmonics that actually cause plants to grow - a company sonic bloom uses this fact - the resonance into ultrasound opens up the plant cell stomata to take in the morning dew nutrients directly through the leaves. So there is an ecological harmony - it's called acoustic ecology It's been documented in Nature that every animal occupies a sound niche in time and frequency - and so their mating calls, etc. create an orchestra equally balanced with all the other animals. But it's also documented there is not a place on earth that remains undisturbed by modern human noise pollution reeking havoc on the natural acoustic ecology.

I would say actually full lotus is better to fix numb legs - it is paradoxical - but with half lotus you are not opening up the channels as well. When the legs are numb that means your energy is gone to the upper body but it needs to then cycle back down to open up the leg channels. Full lotus opens up the lower back better and so the energy flows more easily. Like if I sit Japanese style then when my legs are numb - it is difficult to stay in that position to wait for the legs to clear out. But with full lotus - wait happens is that you have to focus your mind more as the energy is now in your upper body - and then you have an internal orgasm which is what then clears out the leg channels - it is your mind activating your vagus nerve to your reproductive organ and the bliss then floods through your legs. So then you learn that actually numb legs are a good thing since it's a since that the bliss will be next when the legs clear out. Now in half lotus you're not going to get that since you don't open up the lower back properly and so you don't get enough sublimation into the brain to really activate the vagus nerve connection to the lower body.

yesterday I was researching pentatonic music as music therapy. The oldest music is Bushmen music - it is before from human language was invented. The music uses the 1-4-5 music intervals - it is trance healing music. The words are gibberish. That music spread around the world. The oldest human language is also the most musical with the most tones and sounds and so the closest to transmitting the jing energy called N/om as the females would sing all night while the males trance dance. So then pentatonic music is also based on the 1-4-5 natural harmonics - that is also how the 12 notes of the Western scale were originally built. The problem is - according to Western materialists is that the actual empirically true natural resonance of the 1-4-5 intervals are an infinite spiral. But Westerners are materialists and so they want to "contain" infinity into a closed scale so that harmonic chords can be used - to make music that is geometrically symmetric. Thus the secret of trance healing music was lost. But Turkey has the oldest Pentatonic tradition going back to trance dance cave painting from 12,000 years ago and they trace this to when the Turks also strongly influenced the Chinese to use the pentatonic scale. But in reality this tradition goes back to the original Bushmen Africans traveling around the world - so the Dravidians in India and the Melanesians and the original Chinese were Africans of course and before the SUmerians it was African - th e original Europeans were Africans, etc.

My understanding is the dragon is really about the water energy of the Earth - since water is metaphor for the Tao also. That alchemy doc I just posted was all about creating gold in actuality - and one dude who claimed to have done it in Mexico several times but could not replicate it in France - thought the missing ingredient was both sunlight and bacteria. So then science discovered sure enough there is a certain bacteria that favors gold and so to search for underground gold all is needed is a bacterial assessment. But that bacteria does not "make" gold. haha. But if you study Luis Kervan's book "biological transmutations" - they idea is that something can only be transformed from within and not from an external experiment. That implies it is only through quantum biology - and some sort of biophoton transmutation for gold. But for jing energy to be eternal - all I know is gamma rays actually make matter. So gold was actually created using a proton smashing supercollider - and bismuth got changed into gold. But the experiment took a huge amount of energy more than anything gold is worth. haha. I would say the real issue here is electromagnetic radioactive pollution of Earth - I exposed this as the Actual Matrix Plan - the New Agers actually secretly argue it is the spiritual progress of Earth! Depleted Uranium has spread en masse through U.S. manufacturing. I got arrested at the largest depleted uranium corporation in the world - based here in Minnesota but after so many protests they moved their headquarters out by D.C. So in the ancient world it was believed if you were buried with gold then you would ascend to heaven no matter what. I think rather water is the secret for quantum biological proton transmutations as the real dragon energy.

The difference from the smog cancer epidemic in China may just be one of size - China has mega cities of 20 million people, etc. whereas the U.S. at turn of century had nothing close to that size. The smog in China is so bad is makes the pollution in California bad. When I just watched a new documentary on smog in China they compared it to London in the 1950s - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1241789/ But I think death from cancer from smog is a more chronic disease unlike influenza epidemic deaths from smog. So U.S. smog cancer epidemic? 1977: Blame lung cancer 'epidemic' on smog - Chicago Tribune archives.chicagotribune.com/1977/...cancer-epidemic...smog/index.htmlBlame lung cancer 'epidemic' on smog (October 29, 1977). S Oct 29, 1977. The Document Viewer requires that you enable Javascript. Loading. and now China: Cancer epidemic hits China after decades of pollution spark ...www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Cancer-epidemic-hits-China-decades-... Daily Mail Feb 22, 2013 - Cancer epidemic hits China after decades of pollution spark boom in ... wears a mask in Beijing, a city which is badly affected by smog and ..

http://springforestqigong.com is who I am referring to.

thanks for the clarification. So yeah - Saturn makes sense as it's the God of Time - Jupiter protects Earth from comets and asteroids - but sometimes Saturn and Jupiter resonate in their orbits and this resonance energy causes a comet or asteroid to then wipe out all 3-D life on Earth - and without 3-D bifocal vision then our vision lacks the dimension of depth and without dimension of spatial depth we probably also lack the illusion of linear time. So Saturn is very much like Kronos - I think Kronos may have been the god of Saturn and Kronos as Chronos is like Kala (time) as Kali - the destruction and creation of time as a spiral that reverses direction. And so the Earth energy is the "yin qi" energy that is taken in. The Taoist Yoga training does say this "yin qi" energy has to be totally transformed into "yang qi" energy from the yuan qi. the only way that is achieved is through total celibacy. Whereas relying on taking in Earth energy - is also like relying on taking in female jing energy from other humans. This energy is unfortunately not pure since it's a lower emotional energy - whereas to get yang qi you have to achieve "pre-celestial" or "yuan jing" energy - not jing yin qi energy from Earth or females or humans in general. So I would say the reason there are very few - if any real "golden" immortal spiritual masters today is because the Earth and human yin energy is very impure and polluted. For example the Ganges is considered the most spiritual river on Earth and yet it has 1000 times the acceptable level of pollution - as measured at Varanasi - the most spiritual city on the Ganges. For China the Yangtze is also one of the most polluted rivers on Earth and I'm sure the Yellow river isn't doing much better. So to take in the yin qi energy of Earth is not so easy - water is considered the best yin qi energy source from Earth. It is said the magnetic force of Earth used to be much stronger - since the magnetic field changes in strength - but the thing is that electromagnetic pollution is at least 40 times stronger now than 50 years ago - and so to take in the Earth yin qi - it is best to stand barefoot on the Earth - or even better - be buried into the Earth. But you want the bottom of the feet in the Earth as the "yin heel" channel is what builds up the yin qi energy. But you are talking about taking in the yin jing energy through the perineum directly in sitting meditation - and this is from the female yin jing energy - which is from lust and so it's impure. You can take in yin qi energy from Earth directly I'm sure just by sitting on the ground in full lotus - and through the perineum. I have done this also. But as I said - the electromagnetic pollution varies greatly in cities. So a recent study showed that birds lose direction in the cities due to electrosmog - and so just going a couple miles out of the city has much better sense of direction for the birds because animals are very sensitive to having pure yin qi energy from the Earth. You can tell if you take in the Earth's yin qi energy because there is an internal tingling - this is the yin qi neutralizing the internal free radicals. So you can see in this Taoist Yoga training - they say to only let out the yang spirit for a half mile or mile and if it sees another human and animal the golden light spirit body has to immediately return to its original physical body. So it's like a Buddhist manual I read for Mahayana enlightenment - the first prerequisite was to be a least 2 miles from the closest village. So you can see this is a very strict requirement of purification of Earth energy - not just taking in the yin qi energy from the Earth - but purified Earth energy. For example the qigong masters regularly have to clean out "ghost pollution" from a room or area - and it can take several visits. What is ghost pollution - it is yin shen energy that has lower emotional yin qi energy stuck to it - holding the yin shen to earth as a kind of wandering dream state of lower emotional energy. So we modern humans don't realize that ghost pollution is rampant and basically modern humans are actually ghosts - we are just not aware of it. And so the Earth's energy is being killed off - Gurdjieff mentioned this - how the dominant life on Earth has to help the moon spiritual evolve or else the Moon will destroy all life on Earth and start ecology over again. Why? Because the Moon governs the cycles of Yin Qi energy on Earth - through the control of water on Earth. And so how to help the Moon spiritually evolve? By first of all building up and purifying the yin qi energy - as from Yuan Jing energy. So I don't think what you are saying is mutually exclusive. I suppose if we mess up with the Moon's resonance around Earth - that is going to affect the Saturn's resonance with Jupiter and so then a comet or asteroid will destroy all life on Earth - or else just messing up the Moon's resonance will destroy life on Earth. So if we have a whole society out of synch with the Moon's energy then we don't know how to build up the yin qi energy that is purified - as with the Full Moon the meditation is ten times stronger but modern humans are totally out of synch with that. So instead we have electromagnetic pollution that is also destroying all the fresh water on Earth - using it up and polluting it - and the sea levels are rising due to overheating the earth from too much carbon dioxide that is supposed to be sucked up by plants which then transpire fresh water out of their leaves - creating fresh water rain. So yeah it's a good point because Alchemy is based on individualized immortality by storing up the energy individually - and from this arose the Solar Dynasty ritual priest class - the Undead Priests. This arose from mind yoga relying on the left brain and left vagus nerve - the reptilian vagus nerve that controls the heart directly - and so it goes past the heart - and so that's why the priest becomes the Undead. For that ability - also it's based on just infinite logic of mind control but also on total separation from females - no eye contact even - and so it is also very misogynistic. And so no focus on healing abilities of the females. Finally the Undead Priests don't need to show any spiritual abilities - no proof - only need to assert the logical truth of their immortality - as their own secret. So it's a kind of negative proof - everyone else is wrong. And so the secret Solar Dynasty Undead Alchemy Priests - I'm talking about the Brahmin caste but this spread everywhere with "divide and average" mathematics - and so then it relies on a caste system and logarithmic technology that inherently defines infinity through a "contained" materialism - just as the energy is "contained" inside the individual's body. That's what makes alchemy different than just doing healing energy. Of course this is ultimate a lie - that an individual can achieve immortality - because it is only through the infinite formless consciousness that immortality is allowed and this is a totally impersonal energy. So then to say - that only when the golden spirit body looks exactly like the body of the person doing the meditating - otherwise it still has demonic yin qi blockages in it - this is a type of deep exorcism of the person's soul to try to achieve the body's perfection as it was found at puberty I suppose. But the thing is that in the end - what happens to that body? It is pulverized. And so I think pulverized with it is any individualized form - the golden spirit body is made up of qi and shen energy - and it can transform into any physical matter that it chooses to do so. The question is - since it won't reincarnate again - then what physical form will it choose to take? Apparently none since it has just escaped reincarnation. haha. Instead the qi-shen energy is at one with the universe as a whole - unified back into the spacetime source of reality that is eternally creating energy impersonally. You can see how easily this philosophy of individualized immortality would become corrupted into a materialized infinity as logarithmic geometry for modern technology that is destroying the Earth's energy from the resonance with the female Lunar energy.

what's carcinogenic in dairy is the casein protein but capsaicin the active ingredient in cayenne neutralizes casein protein and capsaicin kills cancer. So herbs are the secret to diet versatility. I just get a big bag of those dried chilies from Thailand then smash them up when ever I have dairy or meat or eggs.

cancer rates are growing dramatically in china due to smog.

Again you gotta study music more. I actually had a great music conversation today with this random truck driver - we were both waiting at a receiving desk at a loading warehouse. It was weird - somehow we got to talking about funk music. Not sure how that happened. But then he suddenly started talking about the feeling of music and how it has to be for fun. I was saying how I had just goofed around - when he asked if I had played music. Anyway suddenly my heart energy opened up - which is really rare especially with a dude. I said - wow it's rare to find someone who understands this about music. Because he was like - yeah when it gets serious then it's all over. But anyway as far as the tuning - all human cultures use the 1-4-5 tuning which is the basis also for the secret of Taoism. So you say - what's the difference between SEx Pistols and Sinatra. I've played both those kind of music so I know from visceral experience. But here's the deal - the 1-4-5 music intervals are the natural harmonics which truly are infinite. It's basic number theory. 3 does not go into 2 - and so arithmetically it is an infinite series. It's called the Cantor number set in number theory. But the thing is that the West defines sound by geometry - and so ONLY modern western music theory relies on logarithmic tuning. So as Pythagoras taught - all is number and harmony. that is true based on the 1-4-5 tuning. So the 1-4-5 tuning includes every type of tuning possible - Sex Pistols with all their distortion and Sinatra. Now - this is not some fancy computer tuning. In fact - natural human hearing is more precise than quantum technology! http://phys.org/news/2013-02-human-fourier-uncertainty-principle.html O.K> so all this digital c.d. stuff has got nothing on human hearing. Of course professional musicians score better since their ear is better trained. And so this is my point. If you really listen to music - then the music listens to you! You go into a trance - this is documented as the Mozart Effect which is 60 beats per minute. But there's a deeper trance of 7 beats per second which is theta brain dominant for REM dreaming vision state. Anyway so even Western music still tries to approximate the natural harmonics and so that is why when "happy" and "sad" and "scary" Western program music are played to Non-Western tribes in Africa who have never heard WEstern music - they accurately name which music is "happy" and "scary" and "sad" music. So for example tritones are gonna be "scary" music while "minor" is gonna be "sad" music and "major" is gonna be happy music. But the blues tuning - is actually happy/sad - and why? Because actually the "bent" minor third is the natural overtone harmonic of 5:4 - but Western tuning doesn't include that natural overtone harmonic. The same is true for the minor 7th - prominent in blues music. So the blues harmonics are actually because the African-Americans were intuitively relying on the natural harmonics for the tuning. So when we get into real trance music - the secret is the 7 beats per second is the ELF waves and this resonates the collagen/bones of the body which are piezoelectric to increase the qi energy of the body. For example when people get the chills from music - that is proven to be a spike in dopamine bliss which activates the vagus nerve that goes to the lower body and controls the heart. So when music resonates the heart - the 60 beats per minute resonates the heart and the vagus nerve resonates the heart also. I think what happens with the chills - called frisson - is that the overtones have harmonic beats that probably hit 7 beats per second. I'll look into that more - there's been a lot of research of what causes frisson. Usually it's an enharmonic key change but sometimes it's just a change of register - like suddenly having 2 octaves higher or it could be a dramatic volume change. But anyway with real trance music the secret is that sound turns into light energy. Westerners are very limited about sound but with tuning based on natural numbers - the 1-4-5 tuning - since the frequencies are infinite then the energy resonates through harmonics and subharmonics as nonlinear feedback - into light energy and even spacetime resonance. This is called the Law of Phase Harmony by quantum physicist de Broglie.

http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2015/04/my-reading-of-wang-mus-foundations-of.html O.K. I combined my above comments on the Wang Mu book comparing it to Taoist Yoga as a blog post. thanks for the feedback people.

witch glad to hear from you and your update. The Yuan qi must have run out a bit on you - I had that happen from my internal vagus nerve climaxes also. haha. But anyway I'm just saying your energy level is not limited to "you" - you can be charged up by taking in "yin qi" energy - or meditating more to store it up. I did rely on a more dopamine diet to recharge my jing energy. But I prefer to recharge jing energy from meditation. I'm sure you remember our serotonin versus dopamine diet debate and - here's the secret I discovered: So the qigong master said my energy was actually going up the front of my spine and then I discovered that indeed fructose from fruit (high in serotonin) activates the vagus nerve and indeed the vagus nerve does bypass the blood brain barrier and when ionized enables serotonin to increase in the cerebrospinal fluid. O.K. so with a dopamine diet - when you combine that with standing active qigong exercises - this pushes the sympathetic nervous system to its extreme, the wobbling vibrating legs - and this causes an opposite extreme rebound of the parasympathetic. Now dopamine is parasympathetic - I know - but the thing is dopamine increases sympathetic hormones like adrenaline. So it would appear that the sympathetic is then an intermediary to the extreme serotonin from the parasympathetic rebound - which causes a flush of the colon. And so the key difference with the standing active exercise is you get the sympathetic extreme first which by causing parasympathetic rebound then converts the dopamine to serotonin via adrenaline - and by doing so also causes the energy to go up the spine (and not up the front of the body). So by going up the spine - it is doing so as Emptiness purification and sublimation - and so then actually increases your "yuan qi" energy. Whereas normal "tantra" is motivated by lust and so you just get the dopamine parasympathetic - without the sympathetic extreme intermediary - and so there is no purification and sublimation of energy as an alchemical energy increase via serotonin.

Actually he is digging into what Gurdjieff proposed as alchemy using hydrogen.

Nope - Western alchemy, not Taoist.

this will load faster. I'm not changing the subject - just saying maybe this dude has some interesting info to add on Taoist alchemy. Probably not.

The other thing is that the Qigong Fever happened when China was still very "traditional" which in modern parlance means sexist. I read this western white lady who went to China in the 1980s and she wrote a memoir - her husband was a professor there and she said how the ladies in China are not supposed to speak in public unless first spoken to. Try that in the U.S. where being a feminist means pursuing your lust as liberation! haha. So to be a "spiritual person" in China in the 1980s is very different from modern times where it's all based on the "sex sells" commodity fetish - basically porn is mainstream now. I've had females be down right lewd to me - making masturbation gestures and literally masturbating in front of me while standing up. haha. But then the original use of this training was to "heal" the females and so - the immortal alchemy thing was considered to be "hoarding N/om" and a big no, no. What happened is males went off in solitude to master the "yang spirit" transformation bodies - and the rest of the tribe was scared of these dudes. That's the origin of alchemy training - it spread out of Ethiopia in ancient times. So I'm not chastising anyone - I'm just saying the hypocrisy is hilarious. And again - if people want to actually comment on the content of Wang Mu's book instead of just broad dismissals of me as a person - then go ahead. So far I got one comment about the content of what I've posted - and my response has garnered another comment. Personally I am quite happy with the Wang Mu book - I got a lot out of it but mainly because it corroborated the Taoist Yoga book and inspired me to study that book more. O.K> I just had a weird synchronicity where I discovered something.... An academic analysis< "the Secrets of Alchemy" 2014 March. https://vimeo.com/53880152 He's giving a lecture - hour long on his book. Could be interesting depending on how much Taoist focus he gives....

Yeah actually you are reminding me of that topic in detail - and as Taoist Yoga explains - you need at least 600 days of celibacy to achieve the first "critical" stage of training. So a couple years of celibacy. He ain't practicing that in his "pursuit" of immortality. Hilarious! haha. But yeah it is convenient to say - oh but celibacy is not required after "100 days" - which is what their school says. Even if that 100 days is metaphorical and not exact and varies depending on the person - Taoist Yoga says it's a lot more than 100 days. If you're chaste youth with a pure heart - then yes 100 days of training. Otherwise - a couple years of celibacy. haha. So we're talking immortality here. I mean the claim is that the qigong masters are doing healings and so they are not pursuing immortality. that's fair enough. But at least the qigong masters are actual doing practical energy work. They make themselves available for Western science testing of their abilities to heal, etc. They heal many people. But the immortal dudes are like - yeah we gotta have our wives to pass on our immortal lineage and celibacy is only for critical stages - and yes the real training is secret - you all are fake! Hilarious! The source book for Taoist Yoga says the number one false teaching is that celibacy is not required. The main cause for not progressing in training is that the very energy that is built up also makes a spiritual person - a "chick magnet." haha. When I build up my celibacy as yin qi energy - I get chased down. I tried leaving this lady the other day - and she literally chased me down. Same happened with this other lady - I was walking real fast to keep her from not sucking up my energy - and she followed me in hot pursuit. haha. Hilarious!

Dude - I've been studying music and Taoism for 15 years at least. I can assure you that Taoism is based on the alchemical secret of music. but the secret is difficult for Westernized minds to "unlearn." http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-devils-interval-and-pre-established.html Here's an overview of my research. It takes a while to comprehend - it's Ph.D. level analysis. So take your time and just ask me any questions. But I'll give you a basic summary - it is very simple yet very radical. Yang is the Perfect Fifth music interval as 2:3. Yin is the Perfect fourth music interval as 3:4. In the West we learn those intervals as logarithmic tuning but that assumes a commutative logic. Taoism is based on complementary opposites and this is revealed by the origins of the Perfect Fifth/Fourth music intervals. In reality - based on natural resonance empirically true harmonics - the Perfect Fifth is the geometric value C to F as a subharmonic and C to G as a harmonic - same arithmetic ratio - 2:3 as subharmonic as 3:2 as overtone - but the geometric values change from C to F and then C to G. So that violates the commutative principle. My blog link gives the details of this - it is a very simple yet very radical expose - so most people don't even notice the issue. Yet it is the secret of the Tai Chi resonance from music harmonics.

So first of all we got Opendao claiming he can ejaculate while pursuing immortality. Now we got the Golden Light dude saying that it's wrong for the testes to shrivel and no erection to be possible. I say you two are both going the wrong way - the qi is created by ionizing any fluid into qi energy - using the spirit light to ionize the hormones. So that's why the deeper you go into the spiritual body the more your reproductive organs dessicate and disappear. Also for the person who says that my reading of Wang Mu raised his eyebrows at times - you're gonna have to quote me specifically what caused your eyebrows to raise up. Otherwise it's just a general dismissal based on form and not on content. You want me to provide actual quotes of the book so you have something to work on - well I provided you enough to work on to raise your eyebrows. You claim to have read the book yet obviously you can't quote the book yourself to object to my reading of the text. So I'm willing to help you out - again if you actually quote me first so I know what you're referring to - regardless of whether you read the book or not - I'll take your word for it. haha. So for example the Golden Light dude disagrees with the shrinking of the balls quote - but I did quote the Taoist Yoga book didn't I? Oh I'm sorry that quote was to disprove Opendao again. O.K. I'll get you a quote. Pdf link I did provide though so you can refer to the text directly. Ok first of all - when I had my enlightenment Emptiness spacetime vortex experience not only did I come out of it completely detached from my physical body and mind - knowing that who I was - it was something not those things - but I also felt that everything is truly the Emptiness whether it's a piece of shit or a golden light body. And so I thought the Emptiness gives a person complete freedom. So I didn't understand yet that in actuality the training, since it's based on harmonization, requires eternal purification and so there isn't complete freedom - there is an inverse relation between celibacy and spiritual energy. Period. That's why there's so few real spiritual masters out there. Wang Mu basically says - well no one really hardly every achieves these final states and so their religious idealism doesn't matter because pursuing them is great for physical health and longevity. Now keep in mind he was writing for the atheist Communist crowd , as the introduction of the book by the translator points out - and so Wang Mu throws down those disclaimers in the text. O.K. so back to the point of contention, page 138.

Right so Wang Mu says that Zhang Boduan doesn't explicit mention the egress of the yang spirit manifestations - but at the same time says that reincarnation will still occur unless this Taoist stage is achieved. And so despite Zhang Boduan being declared a Chan Immortal by the Emperor - that was more for political expediency while in reality Zhang Boduan was really a Taoist immortal. Nevertheless in the spirit of the unity of the three religions Zhang Boduan does focus and emphasize the Emptiness meditation for the final stage of eternal liberation. And so Taoist Yoga makes the similar statements as Zhang Boduan - the "emptiness which is even more empty...." So then by rolling the eyes the Sun and Moon energies unite for the final leap into the Emptiness. So Taoist Yoga also says in this final stage the golden light will emerge out of the head as a golden body but at the same time a demon will also appear for the final test. So if the test is not passed then the person will still have to reincarnate. And so then by uniting the spirit into your heart as the seat of eternal essential nature then finally the "undying self" as the "true spirit" will manifest in front of the person - with the same features as the person. It should only leave the body once a week and in nice weather and during the day. After 6 months - then once every 3 days. After a year - then once a day. All that time the spirit body should be kept close to the physical body. After 2 years the positive spirit physical golden body can leave the meditation grotto during day or night but needs to return to the body to "suck." After 3 years the positive spirit can go to distant places but if it meets another animal or human it has to return immediately to the physical body - so travel just a half mile or so. At this stage the positive spirit has become an Earth-bound immortal. I actually asked the qigong master if he had achieved the "yang spirit" and he said that once when he was in deep meditation in his house in China people saw his physical body outside of his house.... Taoist Yoga says, "you will feel as if coming out a dream and will see another body beside your own." That is what happens when you leave your body. Indeed I did have one brief OBE experience when I fell asleep in full lotus and felt as if someone was on my body - and then I "woke up" from that dream to see my own body in full lotus on the bed. As soon as I saw my own body - from about 15 feet away - I was hovering in the room - then I was sucked back into my own body. Of course what Taoist Yoga is describing is much more powerful. It says at this stage of your physical body leaving - the positive physical golden immortal spirit body - if you have any visions of family or friends just ignore the visions and focus on the Emptiness. The demon vision in the golden light of the physical spirit body is from the remaining left over yin qi energy from the five yin spirit organs. So just keep focusing on the Emptiness and that final yin qi energy will be transformed into the eternal golden body. Only when the features of the golden body are exactly identical to the physical body then the golden body light won't vanish. Meanwhile his own physical body after having absorbed the golden light - it will vanish into the golden vapour. "If he fails to hold onto the golden light his body will fail to evaporate." p. 168 Just hold onto the golden light no matter what and the demons will vanish. But if the student "delights" in the light then the training will end. So traces of yin qi in the golden physical spirit body will cause the demonic visions to manifest and so then the golden spirit light needs to be sucked back into the original physical body in order to purify more the yin qi energy. Chapter 16 At this point the positive golden spirit body can then appear in the world and do mass healings. But then it will eventually re-enter its original physical body for the final breakthrough. At this stage the positive golden physical spirit body is not allowed to leave the original physical body again. The Emptiness is focused on until the original physical body - "until the four elements (that make the body) scatter and space pulverises leaving no traces behind; this is the golden immortal stage of the indestructible diamond-body." Before that stage is reached - the golden light will become "all-embracing, shining on heaven, earth and myriad things which will appear within its light."

O.K. so I finished the Wang Mu book. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fterebess.hu%2Fzen%2Fmesterek%2FTaoist-Yoga-Alchemy-and-Immortality.pdf&ei=d09CVZLFPJKDNubtgagL&usg=AFQjCNGy4SrrA7UspVUt4BXCO5nDid_6UA&sig2=tOtcXipmW5PZ-mPbkCCo6g&cad=rja That's the pdf link for Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. I'm now gonna compare again. So we are at chapter 13 of Taoist Yoga which basically says yeah the testicles whither away since all the generative force is turned into qi and any thoughts about passion or beautiful forms of love will mess up the practice. the "method of blocking the generative gate (at the tip of the penis) as is previously taught is only to prevent vitality from draining away in order to preserve life." p. 138 But at this stage the genitals have been permanently blocked - shriveled so no erection is possible anymore. So you do a final small universe meditation for the 2nd manifestation of the golden light and at the third manifestation of golden light is when you do the actual breakthrough to leave the body. But if you have a 4th manifestation of golden light it's too late and you'll lose the energy through ejaculation. And so the Golden elixir needs to not be lost through the lower magpie bridge - the anus - and so a wooden bun is sat on to close the anus. Also needs to ascend up the governing channel (not the thrusting channel). This is achieved with the help of a student - pinching and pressing the spine. Then the eyes are rolled and rotating to unite spirit and vitality. The danger now is lose of the golden elixir out of the upper magpie bridge - the nose - and so a clothes pin is used to close the nose. So then the golden elixir will make its descent down the conception channel to the middle tan tien mixing with the yin qi of the liver and then finally to the lower tan tien. At this point all small universe is stopped and only Emptiness is focused on. At this stage no salt should be eaten. At this stage it is very tempting to use the qi energy. So after a couple years of meditation then the immortal foetus rises to the middle tan tien and the golden light manifests for the break through as the immortal foetus rises to the upper tan tien. So then the "flying snow and falling heavenly flowers" are seen. This is the stage that the qigong master I have studied with described has having happened to him - he said his small universe practice had been very deep lately and he had seen this flying snow. And so the golden light will be so bright there is no night experienced and the Emptiness should just be focused on. And this point the golden light can transform the person's physical body into a vapour. But only if the person leaps into the Emptiness. chapter 15 If the person doesn't leap into the Emptiness then he only becomes a seer of the negative spirit plane - of ghosts and spirits, etc. more later.....

O.K. I cruised through chapter 2 because to be honest I didn't think it had that much practical training information. Now first of all it did confirm what the source book for Taoist YOga calls "The End of Leakage" - in other words to refine the essence into breath or refine the jing into qi - there has to be continued celibacy. Now from my understanding the "real school of immortals" doesn't require this celibacy and yet this chapter 2 of the Wang Mu book is the beginning of the "arts of immortality." Pause here for the paradox of "immortal ejaculation." haha. O.K. so then what did I get out of chapter 2? Well I recognized that it referred to stages that are also detailed in the Taoist Yoga book. So then I will have to compare the two again. But before that - I did pick up a new insight in that it would seem the point of refining the jing into qi - is to then using the "yang qi" in the small universe meditation - aka MCO - then increasingly the yin qi of the jing energy (yang jing) is turned into more yang qi - and so - yang qi aka the Lead of the yin or the True Lead - aka the Lunar Tiger as Yuan Qi. O.K. so that makes sense because with Laying the Foundation - this chapter 2 described it as the first taste of Emptiness and that was my understanding also from Taoist Yoga - you fill up the yin qi of the lower tan tien and then by doing so you activate the yang qi of the middle tan tien. By activating that yang qi you also activate the yin shen of the upper tan tien and so you get a taste of Emptiness - an enlightenment experience. As I did - I did achieve this level of "Laying the foundation." But since I had not studied the alchemy texts properly I didn't know what to do with it. O.K. so then let's go to the Taoist Yoga text to compare. First of all Wang Mu says that the refining of jing to qi is the "external medicine" and so this compares to the Taoist Yoga text as I remember - yeah as the "outer alchemical agent." Now in actuality that is still part of "Laying the foundation" and what Wang Mu emphasizes is that not until the external medicine is gathered do you actually achieve the true alchemical pill for the real practice. Yeah right so the "internal medicine" is then the refining of jing into qi and this is chapter six of Taoist Yoga which focuses on rotating the eyes and by doing so having the tiger and dragon copulate - or again bringing out the True Lead - the Yuan Qi or yang qi from out of the yin qi of the jing energy. See when the external medicine is built up that is the "first half" of the practice - it is the Yin Shen manifesting as the Dragon white light that is seen externally outside the eyes - not just internally in the head. So it is an initial taste of Emptiness as the Absolute Void (whereas the relative void is just seeing light internally and not being able to see it externally). So by seeing it externally the pineal gland as the third eye - the Cavity of Original Spirit has opened up a bit - from the joining of the yin shen and yang qi (yuan qi) energy. But originally the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality (yuan qi) has no "wondrous light" - and so that is why the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality - the lower tan tien has to build up the yin qi in order to activate the yang qi of the heart - the original source of the yuan qi that manifests in the pineal gland. So by activating the middle tan tien - that is an initial unification of the yuan shen and yuan qi energy from the heart. O.K. so then Wang Mu in this chapter refers to how the golden light initial manifests twice from this build up of the qi from the essence - but those first two times it is still not strong enough yet - and only at the third time then is the small universe meditation then actually stopped. so that also is a direct comparison from the Taoist Yoga book. Yeah so basically even once the first half is achieved - from "Laying the foundation" then it's really a matter of continuing to build up the energy and continuing to refine it - and that is why there is less need for actual written text about the practice. But it is like climbing a mountain - you go steeper, and actually faster in the sense that your relative distance isn't as far to go - but it takes longer to get there in the sense that it is more dangerous and more easily to fall back, etc. And so Taoist Yoga says - even if you do achieve "laying the foundation" - "If you do not know the teaching of Chapter 6, and can not avoid the risks involved, vitality will turn into generative force." But if you do practice chapter 6 - which is the internal medicine from having the real alchemical pill manifest - then the qi will transmute into shen and then the light of essential nature will manifest in front of you - again this is the first half of the immortal training. Or as Taoist Yoga says, "only then can you lay the foundation of immortality." chapter 7, page 85. So indeed "laying the foundation" as a taste of Emptiness as Wang Mu calls it - is actually the first step of the internal medicine small universe meditation - and by opening up the upper tan tien - it is also the foundation for the "arts of immortality" practice which again is just a continual building up and refinement of the energy. Yeah so Chapter 7 of Taoist Yoga is really reviewing what happens after the external medicine - the yin qi is filled up and "true vitality" - the yang qi within the jing manifests as the real alchemical pill for the internal medicine, the focus of chapter six. The point of Chapter 7 is that when the yin shen light manifests externally - as the light of essential nature - it needs to be focused back in the lower tan tien and the light needs to be surrounded and enveloped by more yang qi energy of the lower tan tien. that is the crucial step that I was missing - actually I didn't even really understand anything after chapter 4 in the Taoist Yoga book. haha. But as chapter 7 and 8 states - if you achieve this first level of the internal medicine you can go without food for a week and I did achieve that state - without any hunger. And then chapter 9 is on the immortal breathing - which again is part of the internal medicine practice. Again I did achieve this state and it is described in Wang Mu as the final stage of "laying the foundation." So we can see there is overlap in this level of practice. Ok so as I said I did achieve chapter 9 - but I didn't even know I had achieved it - since i had not studied the book well enough. Everything happened too fast and I didn't realize the dangers of it - in terms of the need to protect the energy and safeguard it to keep building it up. So then we get to chapter 10 - now note - we are still in the equivalent of chapter 2 of Wang Mu!!! We are still in the "internal medicine" of refining the essence into qi. The golden light has not manifested three times yet. Chapter 10 is focused on ensuring the End of Leakage - because remember only unless celibacy is maintained can any progress be achieved. And so chapter 11 and 12 are the final steps in achieving this golden light from the build up of the yang qi - the True Vitality of the Tiger in the Moon jing energy. And this stage of practice deep serenity is required which means total focus on meditation. It is in this chapter 11 that the dizziness is mentioned - from having the light leave the body. So then more yang qi needs to be developed but if there is any ejaculation then the light will be diminished. So chapter 11 says that when the vitality is raised up to the head - of the seven openings (mouth, eyes, ears, nostrils) of the head the greatest loss of qi is through the mouth from excessive talking and singing. To solve this problem the tongue should be kept against the roof of the mouth at all times. I definitely need to do this - since the qi makes me do excessive talking and singing and so I lose the energy. O.K. so finally in chapter 12 we get the third manifestation of the golden light - now remember this is still the chapter 2 of Wang Mu's book! It is the final stage of refining essence into qi. But when this stage is reached the student needs to go into retreat and make sure no energy is lost. And so the golden light as the yang qi Tiger energy manifesting - and then the "final breakthrough" is achieved - which means refining the qi into spirit - for real astral travel - the real opening up of the top of the skull, etc. Or - chapter 3 of Wang Mu's book. I'll read that tomorrow.

O.K. so I finished chapter one of Wang Mu. Here's the deal - so far I have no real evidence that any one else posting in this thread has actually read the Wang Mu book. No one else is commenting directly on the content of the book. No one is even really commenting on the content of what I have posted. O.K. There has been several comments that are generally positive of Wang Mu. So obviously the book is considered a worth while read for serious study. But here's the other deal. Chapter one is 65 pages. But the rest of the chapters - 2 and 3 - are only 20 pages each. So the introduction - not even the real "arts of immortality" (chapters 2 and 3) is actually longer than the other 2 chapters combined and the conclusion. Now I know that the more you work your way towards the Emptiness then the less can be said about it. Fair enough. But at the same time at the end of chapter 1 Wang Mu says that in actuality he doesn't quote from Awakening to Reality that much but rather relies on other alchemical texts - because that preparation teachings were mainly oral and that a person needed to rely on a teacher to properly do the preparation teachings. I agree with that, again most people do not even achieve the "Laying of the Foundation." And so - hence the need for the first chapter to be three times as long as the other chapters. But I already posted a lot of information that I gleaned from that first chapter. I found it to be a fascinating and very informative read. As someone said - it compliments well the Taoist Yoga book and I completely agree. I would say the final section of Chapter one emphasizes that while the Emptiness creates spirit which creates qi which creates jing the opposite path also works - you can refine jing to build up qi to build up spirit to go back to the Emptiness. And so based on that two way process chapter one concludes that the over all method is "Harmonization" and that it is a three in one path. And so the rest of the book, the "arts of immortality" is actually less reading material than all of chapter one. haha.

This thread is about Wang Mu's book. So that's fine if people want to say what I post is wrong but at least provide some evidence - false accusations are just boring to be honest. So I did get a chance to read a bit more so far - I was in full lotus at my boss's house waiting for some business - and outside in the sun - reading Wang Mu. So then Wang Mu discusses how immortal breathing has to kick in when the Original three treasures are restored - and so the breathing of the pre-celestial qi comes in from the heel and it goes up the governing channel and goes down the conception channel to the lower tan tien where it thereby initiates post-celestial breathing. This is called the breathing of a True Man versus the typical external breathing by the throat. And so the True Man it is said will be like they are drunk all the time - such is their ecstasy and the external breathing will be very slight but with very long inhalations and very little exhalation. So at this point I should said that indeed I did achieve this "Laying of the Foundation" stage which the True Man breathing kicked in - so that the centers of my feet were pulsating with qi energy as well the centers of my hands and the top of my skull got soft and expanded and also pulsated with qi. As the Wang Mu book says - at this stage the body will be very pliable and with very strong qi and very healthy and basically like a baby with happiness, etc. So for me when I achieved this stage what happened is I had not studied the Taoist Yoga book well enough and very soon then I lost my yin qi energy from when I made eye contact with a female and instantly I had this internal orgasm up my spine - well now I know it was actually up the front channel as my yin qi energy went into her. I knew intuitively that she also had an internal orgasm from my energy - but I could not consciously process this as I was in denial about what had happened. But also since I had not studied Taoist Yoga enough I didn't realize that the encounter - again just simply direct eye contact about 20 feet apart - with a female I was friends with - and she pulled the frequency of my energy down. So not realizing that I had needed to purify my energy again with more standing active exercise then soon after that I lost the alchemical pill through nocturnal emission. I was able to still maintain enough qi energy and keep my channels open enough where I had several other amazing experiences - but then actually the energy got too strong and I had this spacetime vortex as an Emptiness experience. Again it wasn't until I studied Taoist Yoga in great detail many years later - like 6 years later - did I realize that my yin shen spirit had left my body with not enough qi energy enveloping my spirit, thereby causing that spacetime vortex dizziness. But also as it was an Emptiness experience - the qigong master said I had an "enlightenment experience" - but again I had to keep studying the Taoist Yoga text to figure out what it was about. So my point is that indeed - with this focus on the "Yin Heel" channel as the first thing that needs to be opened - then a proper focus on the standing active exercise can really be appreciated. For example the qigong master states that in the initial training the standing active exercise should be done 3 times more than the sitting passive meditation. So yes 3 times more is definitely an important focus - but it is never explained by the qigong master why such a focus on the standing active exercise! I mean yes it is said this is to build up the jing energy, to create the foundation in the lower tan tien - but it is only by understanding the difference between the false tan tien, the yin jing and yin qi energy, etc. and how only when the yin qi energy is filled up that the real MCO will open up, etc. - and how the Yin Heel channel converges with the other channels as the Ocean of Qi - then this is properly understood. So at the time I did start reading Master Nan, Huai-chin - and he said how what happens is many students do achieve this "Laying of the Foundation" but then they get "heroic over-exuberance" and so then they "fall back into worldliness" and this is what happens for almost all the meditation students. He said it's very difficult because then it is easy to get "righteous anger" all the time - and this is because most people have their intention - their shen-qi energy - still stuck in the lower body center - their true subconscious self is still a very lower frequency and so they are constantly pulling the energy down - from the true intentions of the heart - down to the liver (the essence of fire is the wood) and then back down to water. But this last step is fought off as righteous anger by the meditation student. My point is that only by properly understanding the alchemy training can there be real progress made on "Laying the Foundation." And so indeed Wang Mu does provide good direction for that training. For me the problem is that I do feel sorry for people if they are low in energy and so then on occasion I do send out "yin qi" energy out of the pineal gland into other people. For example I had a boss-man hit his head today at the warehouse and he was in a lot of pain and so I just immediately went into full lotus and flexed my pineal gland and sent out "yin qi" energy into him, with my vagus nerve pulsating as it pulled up lower body energy along the yin qi channel. Of course that pulls up a lot of lower body crap with it but I had my antiseptic with me - the tea tree oil - and again - the dude was in pain and so that's the price to be paid. But anyway he did feel much better and I only sent energy for a few minutes - all the while he was saying with his Chinese accent - "oh qigong!" haha. Oh the other thing about restoring the 3 treasures is that Wang Mu discusses how the pre-celestial Jing is actually the ambrosia saliva that goes down from the pineal gland - from the sinuses and from the tongue against the roof of the mouth - the saliva goes down the front channel into the lower tan tien. I was very glad to read that as that is also what Taoist Yoga states - that the saliva is the best way to restore jing energy and indeed I had just posted that in the "Meat and Jing" thread in the general discussion forum. It's just that I didn't know that the saliva was actually the Pre-Celestial Jing and so I was very glad to learn this and it makes sense as the Laying the Foundation is about restoring also the unity of the three treasures - and so it would make sense that the Pre-Celestial Jing is created from the unity of the Pre-Celestial Qi (out of the pineal gland) with the Pre-Celestial Shen (out of the heart, expressed out of the eyes).

So this next section has more profound insights for me. So I answered it wrong - the text says the best way to guard the building up of the lower tan tien is through "true intention" and that intention is the yellow earth element - but this ties it also to the true function of the mind - literally the yellow light that is seen as the yin shen energy. In other words one of the names for the Mysterious Pass as the Emptiness of the spirit - the true intention focus - is "Cavity of the Yellow Court." So in terms of it being the Earth element - and the connection to true intention - the section analyzes the five elements to say that Metal (lungs) is the essence of Water which is post-celestial jing energy and so Metal and Water are paired together while Wood (liver) is the essence of Fire (hun spirit heart) and so Fire and Wood are paired together but Earth stands alone since it is true intention of the mind that properly guides the whole alchemical practice. And so I have a joke at work - since I talk bad Spanish for my job - and I say - "why am I seeing light above your head?" to my coworkers, as they know me as the brujo. And so now this book has given me the answer - my "true intention" as the Yellow Earth energy or the yin qi energy tied to the yin shen energy - is leaving my body out of my eyes and therefore I see yellow light around other people. And so the best way to "guard" the lower tan tien energy is by "turning the light around" or emptying out the conceptual mind to focus true intention on the lower tan tien behind the navel. For me this in practice is what I call "flexing the pineal gland" - which depending on my intention could be either to send out energy or to turn it back around, but in both cases it is an emptying out of the conceptual mind. So in other words - the intention for true intention has to be to "flex" the pineal gland to turn that yin shen light around along with its yin qi energy - so that it continues to build up the yin qi energy in the lower tan tien and not to leave out of the eyes. The reason I forget to do this is precisely because our intention - my intention - forgets the True Intention of the emptiness and so the qi energy since it follows the yi - which is really the yin shen energy - then the fire element as yin shen is constantly being lost out of the eyes - because the mind has forgotten to focus the yin shen on the Emptiness and thereby the yin qi follows the yin shen back down to the lower tan tien.