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  1. http://www.ayahuasca.com/science/the-ayahuasca-effect/
  2. MMO & The Microcosmic Orbit

    I will respond to the PM here - the Bible teaches via Paul (gnostic teachings) that thinking is the same as doing and this especially applies to the "evil thoughts" because the thought immediately triggers the qi from the pineal gland to shoot down the spine to turn the Cavity of Vitality jing into fluid. So there is no need for physical contact - but the signal is triggered by the spirit light out of the eyes with the yin chi "heart's fire" going with it. So as spirit energy it is not limited by distance. For example Poonjaji says how a lot of yogis in the caves in Himalayas - it doesn't matter if they are hermits - because if their mind is still obsessed with evil thoughts then it makes no difference. But obviously being around the bad influences doesn't help. So for example in Kungfu movies - old skool - the man is training with the master out in a hut in the forest but the man's girlfriend is secretly watching. The man can sense her energy staring at him - despite him not seeing her. I have had this happen in real life - because the lust of another person's eyes has electromagnetic power to it and so pulls down your energy frequency since their spirit-qi consciousness is still stuck in the lower part of their body. So I've experienced this several times where I pick up that I'm being stared at by a female with lust. O.K. so also then think of the eyes and spirit energy like taking a photograph all the time and then the lower body is like the chemical processing lab. So if you leave the door of the "dark room" open - if your eyes are open all the time taking in bad light energy (called "bad air" in TAoist Yoga book) then what happens? The photo gets all ruined - your spirit energy gets all ruined and turns into mush (lost as ejaculation). So then meditation is simply closing the room so you can consciously process (sublimate) the chemicals that will then transform your photo into an image that you can then consciously analyze and edit, etc. in the processing room (your brain) to empty out the evil parts, etc. So qigong is based on "unconditional love" but this is not romantic love - romantic love is still just a lower emotion of yin chi - but it is like the final lower emotion since you have the yin qi building up and so it is very easy to have the energy as yin qi leave your heart out of your eyes (or the pineal gland). So Taoist Yoga says this is the most common cause of failure in the practice since the practice increases the very passions that have to be emptied out for real qi energy to be developed. So what happens is there is no need for physical sex even but if the female is flirting with you then as the reverse small universe the spirit-qi leaves out of your eyes into hers while the lust and overexcitement of the heart from the eye's twinkling at the form of love - causes the qi in the pineal gland to shoot down the spine and deconvert the qi in the lower tan tien back into fluid. So then this causes fluid to build up and you have to then reverse it or else the fluid as semen will leave the body as reverse ejaculation when you piss. So Mantak Chia talks about this problem I guess - since the foamy piss is the reverse ejaculation because the semen was not sublimated back into the cerebrospinal fluid - instead it got stuck in the prostate. So the Taoist Yoga book emphasizes the Quick Fire method but the best way to enact it is from the horse stance with thighs parallel to the ground since that will enact very quickly deep fast breathing and it is only the deep fasting breathing that has the power to reverse the damage - to sublimate the energy back up. As Taoist Yoga states when the qi leaves the lower tan tien it then becomes fluid to leave the body but this can be reversed. It has to then be purified again - it goes back into cerebrospinal fluid and then the qi of the pineal gland is increased from the increased jing energy. The increased pineal gland qi then increases the heart's spirit light energy which then converts more of the post-natal jing energy into qi energy. That is how the practice goes and so it relies on the Emptiness focus from start to finish. Obviously if you are having physical stimulation it goes against the practice since it creates fluids but this is also try from just eye contact with the spirit-qi energy, 'heart fire" going out of the eyes. So as Taoist Yoga states at first this is just a subconscious eye twinkling as spirit energy at the speed of light but then it develops into evil thoughts. So the meditation has to clear out even the subconscious eye twinkling and obviously the evil thoughts have to be reversed also. So for example the Brahmin priests had to undergo a three day ritual purification if they just had eye contact with females. That is how difficult this training is - because the Brahmin priests just practiced mind yoga for the most part and so relied on strict separation from females. But obviously we can't have strict separation and on the contrary with the techno-feminist liberation movement then females are now the sexual aggressors for the most part - so at least I have yet to meet a female that does not go into instinctive lust reaction from the qi energy with female display behavior and other tactics to suck up the qi energy. I know that originally the qigong masters were females and obviously females can train to build up their qi energy and also since females are yang internally then they can activate their heart energy more easily to create the real yang qi energy for stronger healing energy. It's just that in techno-feminism females try to be more like males to liberate themselves since the males themselves are not real men - don't know how to create qi energy - and so actually technology is an attempt by the females to protect themselves from the raping perv males (just as with female chimps using spears so they don't get raped by male chimps). So the qi energy was developed originally by the females as a result of their lunar synchronization trance dancing to heal menstruation - so the full moon ovulation trance dancing activates the pineal gland energy with electromagnetic bliss as the pineal gland energy is ten times stronger during 3 days before and after the full moon. So worldwide in ancient cultures the males actually mimic the female menstruation since this acknowledges the power of female trance dance magic in synchronization with the moon power. But it is only after the lunar psychic energy is fully developed does real access to the Emptiness occur via the heart solar qi energy. It's just that we are cut off from Nature and therefore out of touch with building up the psychic energy via the Emptiness focus that goes through the solar heart qi energy.
  3. The Brain is the marrow - Thinking?

    That's a fascinating question/issue. http://www.research.ufl.edu/publications/explore/v06n2/brainmarrow.html I didn't realize Western science now corroborates brain marrow from stem cells! I know that Mantak Chia has used stem cells to help explain the miracles of the lower tan tien healing energy. So it would seem that the same stem cell action takes place for the upper tan tien. I also know that actually while new blood was considered key from bone marrow production - now it's known that the intestines also make new blood and this makes sense considering magnesium from chlorophyll is the same structure for hemoglobin - just change out the magnesium and replace with iron for chlorophyll to be new blood. So then consider that the pineal gland is actually the 2nd highest processor of blood in the body, after the heart. Maybe the third after the intestines. haha. So that seems to corroborate the three tan tiens right there. Yeah I know in Taoist YOga - it's called "feeding the brain" and this refers to sublimating the jing energy into the cerebrospinal fluid which then, via the ionization of the nerves from piezoelectric bone pressure and water acoustic cavitation sonofusion - enables the serotonin neurohormones to get directly to the pineal gland where further piezoelectric transduction then increases the ionization further - and then this process further increases via the heart vagus nerve connection and oxytocin. So that practice of course increases the blood flow to the brain and if marrow makes blood - then the brain is acting as marrow. For example the ELF vibrations - the purring of cats in infrasound - are proven to accelerate bone growth. so that bone pressure also has infrasound electromagnetic energy. Thinking is actually a very limited left-brain activity compared to visualization and concentrated focus or "immutable thought" as Taoist Yoga calls it - the secret to emptying out the mind is first developing a concentrated one-pointed thought (on a mantra for example). So what that does is raise the frequency - it turns your thoughts back around to resonate to their source as electromagnetic energy and thereby you resonate and amplify the electromagnetic energy of the brain - which is the source of your real thoughts. That's called "direct perception" - and it emanates out of the pineal gland as telepathy, etc. So yeah too much thinking is definitely a problem - it is a sign of too much sugar intake also which causes a weak pancreas as the organ of worry - and the source of proper intention being strong pancreas and then strong kidney energy as strong will power, based on the above practice of sublimation.
  4. decalcifying the pineal, etc.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9690142 pineal glands to calcify.... http://www.icnr.com/articles/fluoride-deposition.html on fluoride in human pineal gland calcification yep. This is fascinating since it corroborates my claim that lower body serotonin can also get to the pineal gland - as mainstream science says it can't pass the blood brain barrier.
  5. decalcifying the pineal, etc.

    http://www.eatthesunmovie.com/director_s_statement.html Watch "Eat the SuN" if you can on sungazing doc - HRM was exposed as binging at fast food and on buffets - another lying breatharian. haha. Also the dude who tried it damaged his eyes - as the doc documents.
  6. There's a good online report of someone who tested DMT against salvia - the DMT produced the machine elves but then the Salvia over-powered the DMT and caused the machine elves to have all their body parts switched around, all messed up. So yeah a lot of those so-called entities are just projections of the subconscious. The thing is with natural pineal gland qi energy from qigong - the electromagnetic power is stronger than the electrochemical energy of the DMT from plants. So I took strong doses of DMT - one dose I was in full lotus for over 4 hours - I could not move my body since the DMT stopped any intentional left-brain power I had from lasting any significant time period. I also took strong doses of salvia and salvia will pull your spirit out of your body - which really freaks people out. But for me I just flexed my pineal gland so that the electromagnetic energy was stronger than the electrochemical energy of the plant and so my spirit was just stuck halfway out of my body. I just kept laughing at the salvia while I was in full lotus like that. But salvia also opens up the pineal gland - I saw strong rainbow auras around my hands even though I was in a dark room with my eyes closed with a thick winter hat over my eyes - my hands had rainbows around them. haha. It went away fast since salvia doesn't last long and I could never reproduce it - probably, now I realize writing this - is because I had used up my jing energy to get that pineal gland vision effect and so smoking more salvia didn't recreate it. I would have needed to build up my jing energy again first. Combining qigong with psychotropic plant medicine in full lotus leverages all the lower body serotonin because what really happens with DMT is it causes the brain to flood with serotonin since DMT activates your serotonin receptors so that the serotonin is then not uploaded - instead floods the brain. Serotonin is a very ancient neurotransmitter - and it is in large amounts in the lower body so it is the key ingredient for kundalini, etc. Normally serotonin can not pass the blood brain barrier but if you ionize your vagus nerve through the piezoelectric bone and collagen transduction from full lotus pressure and mind focus - then the serotonin can transport through the endothelial cells. This then increases the charge of the qi energy as the pineal gland then transduces the serotonin into electromagnetic energy. Our thoughts all come from electromagnetic energy and in reverse certain pulses of electromagnetic energy or light can change our electrochemical energy - as I posted blue light increases serotonin. So if your pineal gland is already permanently magnetized you can focus it to over-ride the visions from the DMT - which are really holographic interactions with our subconscious thoughts - only in real time. What psychotropics due is shut down the thalamus that normally inhibits our subconscious energies from becoming conscious via the prefrontal cortex - so we just get this direct dream state in real time. So for example if you have a life threatening situation then suddenly time slows down in real time - why? Because your brain floods with adrenal which causes your thalamus and hippocampus to process information faster for storing memory. So a faster brain processing time translates to you experiencing external time more slowly - in vivid detail. If it is too traumatic then it actually damages the dopamine neurons and so then the memory is not recallable and this is what PTSD is - or also damage from too strong psychotropics based on dopamine like meth. With qigong instead the sympathetic adrenal is pushed to its extreme so that it causes what's called a sympathetic rebound - to the opposite extreme of strong parasympathetic relaxation. This is why the Thai Buddhist meditation monk master Phra Achran Mun said the best place and time to meditate is with fear of death so he would put his students in the forest infested with tigers. But, of course, he secretly used his qi to keep the tigers away from his students but they didn't know that - thinking they were going to die then they push the sympathetic to the extreme and it rebounds to the opposite extreme. Normally this effect is achieved through trance dancing or tai chi - or horse stance - so when the legs are wobbling this is the sympathetic pushed to the extreme and it causes a parasympathetic rebound - especially with the knees bent which relaxes the intestinal muscles. So for example when a person gets the "shit" scared out of them or whatever it's called - this is actually from sympathetic rebound causing the lower body to flood with serotonin which is from extreme parasympathetic nervous system activation and then having evacuated the bowels the person is able to run faster - assuming a tiger is chasing them, etc. So http://www.ayahuasca.com/science/the-ayahuasca-effect/ yeah a good overview on DMT effects on serotonin levels and how that affects the brain.... But with a strong dose of DMT actually then the heart opens up and there's a loud OHM sound heard from the heart - while also experiencing what I call the "cosmic rainbow vortex" or astral energy. Master Nan, Huai-chin says this loud OHM sound from the heart is from the conversion of jing into qi energy and it is part of opening up the 2nd chakra. But afterwards from relying on the plant-based DMT then there is a strong "spent" sensation like after a good romp in bed but actually - I called this -- well the kundalini bliss was way stronger than I had ever experienced it - it felt like my tailbone was peeled back in bliss - like when peeling a shrimp - and that's when the serotonin shot into the pineal gland and literally sounded like a gun shot and then it cracked open the pineal gland and the astral rainbow vortex kicked in. So then basically what we experience externally is directly reflected or resonated as a projection of our subconscious energy coming out of our pineal gland - with reality being holographic. So the jing energy gets used up by the plant-based DMT - you feel spent but at the same time deeply relaxed and refreshed as if your brain has been put into a deep clean cycle and your heart also - a strong bliss love - but the main message of the experience is that our ego is definitely not in charge of our reality. I desperately was glad to have my ego back - from both times I did plant-based DMT - very very glad to be back to ego-based reality - since it is like a post-death experience into a permanent "reboot" stage of reality. For several days then the veil of reality is very thin - since you know that the rainbow vortex is the real reality - kind of like a CD has that rainbow vortex that is created from all the quantum-based light infringing as lasers on the micro-ridges. So anyway - to become a real traditional shaman with DMT-based plant training requires taking strong doses like that immediately after each other - 5 times in a row. Most people can't even handle one strong dose. haha. Also then - doing celibacy and a special salt-free diet that is also high in serotonin, banana and fish as the diet. In the yoga master book "This House is On Fire" Shri Dhyanayogi has a student who had made contact with a DMT shaman in the Amazon - and the yogi and the DMT shaman made contact astrally. But essentially the Ande shaman tradition relies on dark cave meditation - like the Kogi, the only intact Pre-Colombian tribe has their boys at age 9 go into cave meditation for 9 years. So with the plant-based DMT shaman they are dependent on the plants to heal people and also to see inside people's bodies to detect blockages - but definitely it is the plant that does the healing. Only if they incorporate the Andean meditation training then the shaman is also able to send energy into the other people to heal them - but they do rely on singing to guide the energy. The thing with singing is that it will naturally activate and ionize the vagus nerve as the voice is the jing energy being transmitted - so the chills from music called frission is proven to be vagus nerve activation that increases your dopamine levels - this internal tingling is actually the yin chi energy neutralizing free radicals in the body. So then with deeper trance singing it is called the Mozart effect which is the slow middle movements of Baroque and early classical music that are 60 beats per minute or one beat per second - and this increases the alpha right-brain waves which naturally boost your serotonin levels. It's been found that the right brain dominance with serotonin produces a natural visionary state enabling people to memorize information much faster for increased learning. Then a deeper music trance is 7 beats per second found as the shamanic trance drumming - which is also like the shaking of the legs at 7 beats per second as Dr. Bradford Keeney documents as the foundation for the Bushmen trance inducing energy - so that also activates the vagus nerve to ionize the serotonin and dopamine energies. For example I know ladies who while standing can vibrate their legs to suck in my qi energy - to basically masturbate just by vibrating their legs with the qi energy activating the vagus nerve connection to their cervix for internal orgasms. The thing with the female orgasm is that it converts dopamine to serotonin while the male ejaculation converts dopamine to stress cortisol as a switch to the sympathetic nervous system. That's why males are yin internally from ejaculation while females are yang internally - switching from dopamine to serotonin and with more serotonin then to oxytocin which opens up the heart - via the left side reptilian vagus nerve that controls the heart. So at first it is the right side vagus nerve from the lower body up into the right brain to build up the pineal gland qi energy and when that builds up then it's the left side vagus nerve to the heart to increase the spirit vision energy.
  7. MMO & The Microcosmic Orbit

    You can start by getting a phone healing from Chunyi at http://springforestqigong.com - he is a real qigong master that sends energy over the phone and then after you experience the energy you keep practicing.
  8. https://www.cottonwoodresearch.org/dmt-pineal-2013/ yeah pretty much - rat brains = human brains more or less. http://disinfo.com/2013/05/breakthrough-dmt-found-in-the-pineal-gland-of-live-rats/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine http://psychedelicfrontier.com/dmt-found-pineal-glands-live-rats/
  9. Do Taoist Yoga Nidra/Dream Yoga Practices Exist?

    That's wrong logic. You're not correct without any evidence and lots of evidence to the contrary already. If you make a hypothesis in science it should be based on evidence. You're not just inherently correct until evidence proves you wrong - that's backward logic. http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/11/16/top-8-supplements-boost-pineal-gland-function/ The real question is why are dreams more vivid in color after spirulina? the green pigment is a photoreceptor - magnesium is a photoreceptor. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/664273 Sure enough google magnesium photoreceptor pineal gland and bingo. Dreams are from the pineal gland. So that answers my claim of why spirulina increases your dream strength.
  10. Do Taoist Yoga Nidra/Dream Yoga Practices Exist?

    The "component" in spirulina that is anti-cancer is the concentrated chlorophyll acting as an antioxidant. You suggest that since algae originated when there was little oxygen on Earth it may be carcinogenic - but since chlorophyll is anti-oxidant that claim is not true. You also suggest that you know people who have failed to treat cancer using spirulina - but that is not the claim you made - you claimed that spirulina causes cancer. So that's very tricky on your part to try to switch things around. haha. Obviously I know primitive means older in linear time - but my point is you are claiming it means it is more harmful because it is older. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312238/ So the issue here is actually that mitrochondria and spirulina are actually complementary opposites - the one giving off oxygen as a free radical when it creates ATP and the other, spirulina, taking in oxygen as an anti-oxidant. That's the main cited means of how spirulina kills cancer - as a complementary opposite to its sister ancient symbiotic bacteria. and guess what? tests on humans have been done. So where's your evidence claiming tests on human cancer has failed? Sounds like more fear-mongering. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dovepress.com%2Fgetfile.php%3FfileID%3D7160&ei=4eLkVOWVIYKWNrargcAL&usg=AFQjCNGfMEOKOVCM4-8bP_BJmn5ARPjZCA&bvm=bv.85970519,d.eXY&cad=rja pdf link And your disclaimer is definitely that - haha. Sounds like a corporate science reductionist bias. Again show some evidence that spirulina causes cancer because it's a more "primitive" life form. We all have very primitive life forms as critical parts of us - mitrochondria from the same ancient origin of spirulina. Do mitochondria cause cancer? I suppose yes since they create free radicals. As it is said we all create cancer cells via free radicals it's just a matter of whether our immune system creates the anti-oxidants to kill them off. I suppose too many anti-oxidants cause cancer also but the above study took that into effect by testing for toxicity - none was found.
  11. MMO & The Microcosmic Orbit

    1) Is it normal to lose your erection after avoiding ejaculation through PC squeezes? Study the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality for the real training on this - it is referred to as "retraction" in that book. So yes it is normal. 2) Is the Taoist MMO technique practical for real life sexual encounters? practical depends on how you define it when it applies to those type of things but obviously "staying power" is practical. 3) Where can one learn more about Taoist MMO techniques and the microcosmic orbit? Is the book Taoist Yoga and Sexual Energy by Eric Yudelov a good source? Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality is the best book on the subject but it requires a lot of study. 4) I have heard of cases of people climixing with others (or by themselves) without any physical contact. Where can I learn more about this as well? I personally discovered this ability in 2007 and I dubbed it the "O at a D" or orgasm at a distance and then I used it everyday for years but there are many problems with this. First of all it is detailed in Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality as "evil fire" of the heart from "evil thoughts" and so the practice actually burns up your Yuan Qi or prenatal Qi. What happens is when you have thoughts about reproduction it causes the pineal gland to be triggered to shoot qi down your spine to create fluid. So that goes against the training to create qi energy. It is true that for old people who are impotent then physical stimulation will trigger this qi activation but then, as Taoist Yoga teaches, it has to then be not only sublimated but also purified again - and by doing so you are able to also transform the post-natal jing energy from food into qi. So for example Mantak Chia teaches physical stimulation but personally I would never recommend this - I tried his method and found it goes completely against the real training since again physical stimulation causes the creation of fluid. Also - qigong teacher Gary Clyman corroborates my view about Mantak Chia - in his free Qigong Bible pdf online. So if you learn the above technique of mutual orgasms without physical contact also you take in the jing energy of the females you do this with - and this is their jing energy from their lust also - so it is dirty jing energy, not pure jing energy. So then that also pulls down your energy level. You can try to purify it - to convert the jing back into qi and then send it out again - but there is still residual low level spirit energy information stored in your body. The qigong master had to clear out those blockages in me. The technique also relies on your prenatal spirit going out of your eyes - to send the energy - and so it is pulling up the energy from the front channel - as the reverse small universe. So as I said - the pineal gland is shooting qi down to create fluid but then also your eyes are pulling chi up the front channel - and this is the opposite of the purification process. So for example - by doing this tantra practice of astral sex you can go without food since you are taking in jing energy and then transforming it into qi - but since you are relying on this reverse small universe practice it will always be a dirty practice that stays in the lower level of energy. Because - again - the energy is being pulled up from your lower body, up the front channel - whereas purification relies on the mind-spirit focused on the Emptiness so that your pineal gland prenatal qi is added to your spirit which then descends down the front of the body to then convert more of your postnatal jing energy into qi. So for example I fasted this summer for 5 days but I was also taking in the jing energy of a young well-endowed female - and so I was able to work while I fasted - doing strong physical labor - but also I was receiving high level shen energy from the qigong master. But since I was also transmitting qi into the female then she was taking in the high level energy and I was taking in her lower level jing energy and it was done through the reverse small universe - so even though I went 5 days without food I was still pulling up all this anaerobic bacteria from my lower body since the process goes again purification. So the process constantly leaches out of the skull the lower body impurities. And I wasn't even consciously transmitting energy at this point - it was just being in close proximity with a randy young female full of lust for hours at a time - and so the energy exchange just happened like that. On the other hand since the mutual orgasms without contact have no ejaculation then you are staying in your parasympathetic relaxation system - with no increase of cortisol stress that occurs from ejaculation since male ejaculation triggers the sympathetic stress nervous system. So then both the male and female go into deeper levels of parasympathetic energy which converts the dopamine into serotonin and then finally increases the oxytocin of the heart - and so from continual mutual orgasms then the love bonding energy of the heart keeps increasing for both people since again there has been no trigger of stress cortisol by the male. So in this sense tantra is very good for healing the lower emotional blockages (converting sadness, anger, fear, worry and lust) until the heart center does open up as strong mutual love which then begins to create stronger qi energy. The reason is that you are converting your jing energy to qi and transmitting qi into the female while also taking in her jing energy and converting it to qi - and so through increased mutual orgasm practice you create a mutual qi energy field between yourself and the other - so it feels like your hearts are mutually interwoven electromagnetically at a distance. But, as Master Nan, Huai-chin points out, via Bill Bodri, this is just beginning to empty out the lower realm of form, and it does empty out the realm of desire too, but it just begins to empty out the realm of form - so it's just a low level of samadhi Emptiness and not even the real activation of yang qi energy. The reason being is that you are not storing up your qi energy in your lower tan tien - instead you are constantly sending out energy via the pineal gland and then taking in low level jing energy via the pernineum - and so it is more of an emptying process since the type of jing energy you take in is not food based but already direct yin jing energy or lower emotional energy. Also this energy does go through walls, ceilings, and is not affected by wind and can be exchanged long distance, etc. and it is omnidirectional since the energy is from the pineal gland - so it can be transmitted out of the back of the head, top of the head, etc. So the final result of this practice is what is called a Ghost Immortal which means you are then dependent on taking in other people's jing energy - I mean theoretically you could just live off that energy instead of food - but at the same time you have depleted your own prenatal qi energy - your storehouse of qi energy - and so you are dependent on just constantly converting other people's jing energy into qi. But the limit of this qi again is just a lower level qi (post natal yin chi) since it is still dependent on the lower emotion of over-excitement of the heart from the original lust that triggered it - and so if there is any detachment from the jing sources then it also causes heart-break which is the pain from overusing the qi - or transmitting too much of it into the other people. This is called "forms of love stealing the qi" in the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book. So the heart-break is sadness of the lungs which is because the lungs are the element metal as passion and are the connection of the prenatal qi energy of the right eye. So yeah I did that path of tantric mutual orgasms at a distance for years - all because I just had not studied the Taoist Yoga book well enough. haha. I was posting my experiences all online and looking for critical feedback but no one else had studied the Taoist Yoga book either and so they couldn't provide me with any real good physiological explanation of what was happening. It took the qigong master to read my energy at a distance to explain to me that actually the energy was going up the front channel and out of my skull that way. And that got me more curious since I had assumed my energy was going up my spine. So then when I studied the Taoist Yoga book more I discovered the specific details of what was going on. But also this technique is only possible after you have the third eye opened a bit through an enlightenment Tai Chi experience - which first requires building up the lower tan tien energy and most people never even get that far anyway. I've only discovered Gurdjieff being reported as having that ability - also Michael Winn writes about it also - but that's the only accounts I've found of it besides my own experiences. Oh yeah there's the Tantra Mongoose dude who has videos of his mutual orgasms at a distance - online - and he does that professionally as his healing practice. Well we can assume Mantak Chia has this ability - but also the person who started this website was a student of Mantak Chia and reported that Mantak Chia didn't really see much light when he did his dark cave meditations - in other words Mantak Chia does not have his third eye fully open. So maybe he is good at taking in jing energy for maintaining his health but it is again very limited. For example - there's a book called Bones of the Master by George Crane - the dude hooks up with this Ch'an Master from China and they go back there and the master discovers one of his former students has set up this tantric cult where he is surrounded by all these females. So then the former student basically tries to challenge the master - I guess by taking his energy or something and the master just sits in full lotus and does nothing. The thing is that if the third eye is fully open then you can recharge your energy from the shen source - spirit-qi - directly and not from having to try to convert jing energy into qi. So people can take your energy because they are coming at you from a physical perspective - defined by dualistic limitations which is what tantra is still based on - but not until the realm of formlessness is embraced - the Emptiness - is then the proper foundation for practice achieved. So then if a person keeps taking your energy but you keep recharging it from the Emptiness as shen-qi energy - then finally the person realizes - wow their whole mentality based on physical materialism is wrong and it's wrong to take other people's energy since in reality only the Emptiness supplies the energy and the Emptiness is neither you nor me, etc.
  12. Do Taoist Yoga Nidra/Dream Yoga Practices Exist?

    Dude if you're going to fear-monger give some evidence. When I do the work for you by looking up evidence what do I find? the opposite of your claim. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25583023 http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/blue-green-algae Also your use of the term "primitive" in a negative moral sense belies a misunderstanding of evolution and indicates some sort of possible racist viewpoint or at the minimum a view of linear time progress as evolution. Spirulina shown to prevent and treat cancers while boosting immune system functionLearn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/008421_spirulina_cancer.html#ixzz3S5ZsMHAF
  13. Serge Augier - Shen Gong and Nei Dan in Da Xuan

    http://www.sergeaugier.com/les-livres-en/
  14. Pre-Heaven Qi, lost forever?

    If you obtain enlightenment that means the pineal gland is opened up - the pineal gland is the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality (Pre-birth qi). So with an opened pineal gland then you can access the Emptiness that has unified energy of spirit-vitality or Prenatal shen-qi energy and with that access you can then restore the energy. The book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality teaches how to do this - basically if you start from the Emptiness as a philosophy then you can rebuild that connection of Prenatal Spirit (Yuan Shen) as the front channel of the small universe descending from the CAvity of Spirit (the heart) with the Prenatal Vitality (Yuan Qi) as the back channel of the small universe. If you have "evil thoughts" this causes the Yuan Qi of the pineal gland to be triggered and sent down the spine which then converts the Yuan Jing into fluid for reproduction. So that is what must be reversed by focus on the Emptiness. The "evil thoughts" also occur by the Yuan Shen going out of the eyes via the heart - the Yuan Shen and Yuan Qi both originate in the heart from the two sides of the heart. So this original unity gets separated in the postnatal breathing. You can study the Taoist Yoga book for more details.
  15. Do Taoist Yoga Nidra/Dream Yoga Practices Exist?

    Oh yeah I've also found that taking spirulina gives me much more vivid dreams. So spirulina is very dense in cholorophyll and magnesium, the green in chlorophyll, is a photoreceptor which means it converts photons (shen spirit light) into electrons (qi energy). So in TCM then the blood is considered very close to qi energy creation and chlorophyll is actually eating red blood cells - only the magnesium is just changed with iron internally - otherwise chlorophyll has the same exact structure as red blood. So by eating spirulina you actually clean the blood and create more qi energy that way. But anyway it makes the dreams have more vivid colors. So strong pigments in the food also increase the dream colors. For example Milarepa when he wasn't in samadhi would eat stinging nettles as his main food source - so much that his skin turned green. Strong pigment foods will do that - like carrots (orange skin) or garlic (sulfur yellow). So the pigments on the skin then again act as photoreceptors to change spirit light energy to qi energy internally. So for example Krishna has blue skin and I think this maybe because serotonin is increased by blue light - science uses blue lights to naturally increase serotonin in people. Or conversely blue lights from computers keep people awake since the artificially induced serotonin prevents the natural serotonin from turning into melatonin. So you then can download a program to change the color of your computer screen at night - to stop the blue light - so that the artificial light doesn't mess up your melatonin levels which in turn would mess up your dreaming. The program is called flux or f.lux. Anyway so when I was in the Andes and I was in love with a female there and we were platonic so the sublimation of my energy made my heart very hot - but then I went into the amazing vision state with the life passing before me as a review that was not chronological but revealed all the subconscious psychological meanings of events linked years apart - resolving deep inner conflicts - all unfolding in a visionary dream state that I couldn't stop - in the middle of the night - so dreaming while awake. Then I realized later in my research that high elevation naturally increases your melatonin levels to a very high level - so maybe this is why meditation in the mountains is considered so great to do.
  16. Do Taoist Yoga Nidra/Dream Yoga Practices Exist?

    Qigong master Yan Xin's teacher at Shaolin - Master Haidan - is described by Yan Xin in his Benefits of cultivating qigong book - free pdf online - that Master Haidan went 60 years with no sleep. He was able to stop the mind waves in his cerebrum so he was in deep sleep even more than just the few minutes of deep sleep that everyone is required. So from Ramana Maharshi's teachings - Vedic philosophy - Turiya, the fourth state, is beyond deep sleep or being consciously aware of deep sleep - as the Emptiness consciousness or formless awareness - and so - actually we can infer this just by realizing that after a good night's sleep we experience deeper bliss. So the deepest bliss in our life is when we are not even aware of our individual self nor aware of the universe as spacetime. So then who are we really - ? What is really aware of that state of sleep? So then in Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality it is taught that a good night's sleep means no bad dreams with evil thoughts and evil thoughts are when during sleep your spirit descends from the heart to the lower abdomen and the evil thoughts of your spirit then convert your qi energy into reproductive fluid that leaves the body. So that type of dream is not an illusion since it is very real. So then purification is required before sleep - to prepare for sleep - because the subconscious energy has to be purified since the bad dreams can be provoked even by no evil thoughts - the nocturnal emission can occur during deep dreamless sleep. In other words the subconscious perceptions from images, etc. have to also be purified. So it is essential in Taoist Yoga to purify the energy before sleep - which means first sublimation practices and then purification. So various factors hinder that like diet, exercise, etc. Being too sleepy is actually the worst hindrance for the Taoist Yoga training - worse than gluttony or lust which can be corrected with proper sublimation and purification. Usually for me I am able to wake myself from dreams when they start to turn bad - so it's not necessarily an astral dream but I suddenly in my dream get the impression that something is very wrong and I am against it - and so I force myself awake, out of the dream. Other times if a dream is going very well then I start levitating and flying and I've read this is when the yin chi energy, the psychic lunar energy, is built up in the body - then there's more flying dreams. For me then - I have had dreams that were more real than being awake. The first time was before I even practiced qigong but soon after I had met a qigong master Effie P. Chow. So I woke up and recorded in my journal that since the dream was more real than being awake I thought the dream was predicting the future. The dream was very specific and unusual and indeed it came true exactly - three years later long after I had forgotten recording it. When I experienced the dream come true I got this uncanny sensation and I went to go look the dream up in my old journal. haha. Since then I have had many precognitive dreams and I record them in my qigong journal. So in the past year I've had probably ten precognitive dreams that I"m aware of. But the key again is to be able to predict that they are precognitive and to do so then you have to realize the dream is more real than being awake - the dream features perceptions that are more vivid. But precognitive dreams mainly are based on deep emotional events - often surrounding death, the parting of another person's spirit from their mental consciousness - into the dream astral realm itself. I've had precognitive dreams about three deaths of people close to me but one person was from a lady whom I had not seen in years and had barely talked to since I was a child 20 years previously. But she had been like a 2nd mother to me - so then the dream had predicted her death just a week before - or maybe around the same time but I heard the news a week later. Another time I got a message of someone's death right when it happened - while I was in full lotus at the computer. Anyway so then after the experiences of precognitive dreams we have to realize that the normal waking state is also a type of holographic dream reality that is actually a lower astral realm than the spiritual dream states. A good book on this is called Transcendent Dreaming - by a lady who practices qigong and martial arts. She has had psychokinetic dreams where she changes the physical reality of people around her - doing healing, etc. and then wakes up with herself being physically changed also. So for Taoist Yoga - I know the qigong master highly values the messages of dreams as being a type of astral travel. Taoist Yoga teaches that as the energy advances then you can go without sleep as a deep serenity meditation practice. So when the qigong master did deep cave meditation then he was not allowed to sleep during that time - he just stayed in full lotus the whole time - for a month and then again for 2 months. So then he did astral travel into heaven at that time. The qigong masters regularly do 4 hours of deep full lotus meditation a night and then sleep for a few hours. I reached that level for a week or so when I needed only 5 hours of sleep and I still had more energy than usual - but ironically I did this by fasting for a week - a dry fast with just half a glass of water. So the yang qi energy had kicked in where the strong electromagnetic energy was able to create water, create nutrients, etc. But we can see that the 11 pm to 1 am time for meditation considered the best for the upper tan tien - when the yin energy is strongest - is also when melatonin levels are peaked in the body. Melatonin is a super-antioxidant that is now used as a healer of cancer and is timed when it naturally peaks so as to resonant with its cycle for healing the body. And so in qigong it is taught that the cave meditation in dark naturally increases your melatonin levels to very high levels so then more pinoline is created naturally and this in turn, as an MAOI, naturally increases your DMT levels. Then DMT, as science has discovered, creates a vivid dream vision state, and is the active ingredient in the Amazonian visionary medicines. So what happens in qigong is the celibacy naturally boosts the serotonin of the lower body up into the brain because the blood brain barrier is ionized, thereby allowing serotonin to pass through. This is not verified by western science, of course - but actually the DMT plant drugs have a similar boost by being taken with strong MAOIs - that also boost the serotonin levels. Serotonin then converts to melatonin - again at very high levels and the increased DMT is made from the pineal gland but also works to further open up the pineal gland as the "Cavity of Prenatal Vitality" as taught in Taoist Yoga - it is an electromagnetic door way that powers the spirit into the astral realm. So if you turn the light around this prevents your spirit from descending down - subconsciously as evil thoughts, instead the spirit descends down with the power of the pineal gland qi energy and in turn creates the lower tan tien as an actual visionary center gateway in the body - that when filled up via the lower body serotonin - converting to melatonin - it is the 2nd brain of the body itself. Dreaming doesn't have to be limited to the brain.
  17. So Zoom quoted Taoist Yoga after referring to chapter 1 relying on "shooting down" the shen light into the lower tan tien in contrast to his Golden Flower method of first building up the light in the upper tan tien. When I pointed out that actually this quote of one sentence from chapter one was crucial because it was also the focus of chapters 6 and 7 in Taoist Yoga - I now realize it is actually also the focus of chapter 8, 9 and 10 - the 10th chapter being the End of Leakage. "The sun stands for the heart and the moon for the lower tan t'ien cavity (under the navel), respectively symbolised by the dragon (the female or negative vitality) and the tiger (the male or positive vitality)." p. 67 So far it has been argued that celibacy is only necessary for the first 100 days but Taoist Yoga is adamant that to fully open the third eye there has to be continued celibacy for at least several hundred days or more depending on the age. The key to maintain celibacy is the Quick Fire method which means that deep fast breathing has the power to sublimate the jing energy into the upper part of the body where it is purified into chi energy. Chapter 2 is focused on Quick Fire as the first step of the small universe/microcosmic orbit to sublimate the energy. Without that Quick Fire method then the Slow Fire method of just using the mind intention will not be able to build up enough chi energy. Without chi energy build up then the light of the third eye also does not open up. So first of all in my response to Zoom I pointed out that I needed to study what the left and right eyes meant exactly as the key method that is actually referred to for "driving the spirit" into the lower tan t'ien - is actually the rotating of the left and right eyes. Why? Because this rotation actually causes the chi energy of the heart and the chi energy of the lower tan tien to merge - the heart being the Solar Dragon prenatal spirit energy and the lower tan t'ien being the Lunar Tiger prenatal yuan qi energy. O.K. the thing is that actually both these qi energies - Solar and Lunar - actually originate from the heart - and this is revealed in Chapter 10. O.K. so this is fascinating because those two channels from the heart also express themselves out of the two eyes - so one eye is actually the reproductive qi while the other eye is the pineal gland qi from the heart - the prenatal vitality. So Zoom is claiming that "turning the light around" is just spirit light congealing without qi - but I have claimed - that in actuality - this technique of driving the spirit or fixing the spirit in the lower tan tien is actually the same as turning the light around and the technique is this rotating of the eyes. O.K. Zoom is correct in that p. 15 refers to "negative breath" of the heart and then on p. 24 this is called "yin fu" or "negative fire" that goes down and is the focus of chapter six! So it is also referred to as essential nature. So this means the heart is the "prenatal spirit." O.K. but the negative fire is referred to as "post-natal fire" or yin chi energy that descends down the front channel and it vibrates in the cavity of vitality to turn into fluid - unless it is cleansed by the heart fire or "spirit's fire" - the positive prenatal spirit that is otherwise emitted out of the eyes but if supported by the alchemical breathing can transmute the yin jing fluid into yang jing or yin chi. O.K. I think I finally cracked this - So the heart is called negative fire in the beginning (p. 24) and negative breath but here it is called positive fire - both descending! Why? Because it is positive since it is prenatal and does contain some of the prenatal vitality also (both originate from the heart) but the prenatal vitality manifests in the pineal gland and then descends down the spine (from evil thoughts). to activate the yin jing into fluid. So again unless the Emptiness is focused on then the prenatal vitality can not ascend back up the spine which then increases the qi of the heart fire also. So without that alchemical process even though originally the heart is united prenatal spirit-vitality - it actually, due to consciousness after puberty, descends as negative fire. O.K. so that confirms that the Hou or "yang hou" (p. 24) as the positive fire is the prenatal vitality that, having had descended down the spine, is now adding in the formation or "transmutation" of new yuan qi or true vitality - essential generative force. Now so since I made that connection more clear to myself based on Zoom pointing out that quote - so I began practicing the eye rotation - and this is before I just read the above quote I made. What I was surprised is when I rotated my eyes I distinctly felt qi being activated in my wrists and palms!! So I was surprised by this - I also felt my lower tan tien being activated. But that corroborates the claim of the Taoist Yoga book. So then I got curious - because I know that with the vagus nerve it starts out of the lower brain - it connects to the pineal gland but then it goes to the heart and the right and left vagus nerve go to each side of the heart - and then the vagus nerve continues down as a posterior and anterior or back and front vagus nerve - which connects to the reproductive organs. So it seems reasonable to conclude that indeed this Solar and Lunar energy is actually connected to the vagus nerve somehow. But anyway to stop the leakage as taught in Chapter 10 is a mudra but also the rotating of the eyes, as is first taught in chapter six as the method to drive down or fix the spirit in the lower tan t'ien. And so this fixing or driving of the spirit into the lower tan t'ien is also the combining of the Prenatal Vitality - and again the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality is the pineal gland but it originates from the right side of the heart as the tiger yuan qi that also descends to the reproductive organs. And it is crucial to keep in mind that this method of driving the spirit or fixing the spirit into the lower tan t'ien is only really achieved after the lower tan tien is full of yin chi energy - and only after light is seen outside of the eyes - in front of the person. And this light - it is not just light but it is "spirit-vitality" since the lower tan t'ien is the Cavity of Spirit-vitality. That's what makes it an alchemical practice. the negative spirit seen within the head is just the relative void while the absolute void is the light seen outside the head - only after the lower tan t'ien is full of qi energy. So again it's very clear that the "drain away" of vitality is referring to nocturnal emission as the loss of the precious thing. O.K. so again when can the spirit be driven down to the lower tan t'ien? So that confirms what I was saying - that the driving of the spirit into the lower tan t'ien can actually "only then" be achieved after the lower tan t'ien is filled with the yin chi energy. But that method of fixing or driving the spirit is based on the eye rotating. I am claiming that the eye rotating is also the secret of the Golden Flower "turning of the light around" technique. Another way this is done is by squinting the eyes - showed as a cross-eyed focus on the tip of the nose - in order to link up the solar and lunar qi energies. O.K. so here we have confirmation that the spirit of the heart also has "heart's fire" which is the fire in spirit - the yuan qi energy of the heart as a bit of the prenatal tiger lunar qi. So that is the prenatal qi also manifesting from the pineal gland - but it is still just "negative spirit" that does not contain the "wondrous light" yet in the pineal gland. That has to be built up from the lower tan t'ien. So what has to happen? Only when that heart's fire descends to the water - the yin jing energy of the Cavity of Vitality with the later being sublimated by breathing - then does more yin chi or yang jing energy build up. Once it builds up then it brings forth the positive spirit or as the yang qi or tiger qi of the lower tan tien. When that manifests it also represents the true prenatal vitality that has been driven down or fixed in the lower tan t'ien but also manifests as the external light - the Tai Chi seen in front of the person - as the wondrous light of the pineal gland. And so Taoist Yoga states that yin chi or generative force is just a lower amount of True Vitality or Yuan Jing - in order to restore the later the generative force has to be built up through the sublimation and purification process - as "essential generative force" or true vitality. So I was quoting from chapter 8 which is a complete chapter devoted to just that one sentence that Zoom referred to in chapter one of "driving the spirit" into the lower tan t'ien. The last quote I gave p. 86 is from chapter 8. So this is emphasizing again that is it not just "negative spirit" but spirit-vitality that has to be created out of the lower tan t'ien. Based on my analysis of the vagus nerve as turning into, below the heart, front and back from right and left above the heart - it would appear the key to creating the lower tan tien is by Emptying out the mind (from immutable thought) then this prevents the right side heart vagus nerve from activating the creation of reproductive fluid from the rear vagus nerve below the heart and instead the Emptiness focus concentrates the pineal gland prenatal qi energy to the left side vagus nerve focused then on the front of the body below the heart (thereby creating the lower tan t'ien). Yeah so the Moon is the right eye which is the Tiger reproductive prenatal yuan qi energy. That makes sense since the Right eye is also the element of metal - passion!! So when the yin qi or yang jing energy is lost out of the eyes that means the right eye is dominant as the passion energy - without it being truly focused on the Emptiness as the 'copulation' of the Sun and Moon (fire and water). The left eye being wood as the liver represents Wisdom - and so with deeper slower breathing (metal) you also get stronger wisdom Emptiness - the 'copulation' of sun and moon, right and left eye as metal (passion turns into courage) and wood (anger turns into wisdom). Again I want to thank Zoom for emphasizing that one quote from Chapter one - on driving down the spirit and as I said the secret of it is based on the secret of the right and left eye energy. O.K. so what I wrote has a deeper layer to it - meaning that while the heart is the dragon energy through alchemy the heart fire descends to create the lower tan t'ien as the Cavity of the Dragon. While the tiger is the reproductive energy but the tiger is also the yin qi but it builds up, alchemically, into the positive spirit as yang qi after the yin qi fills up the lower tan t'ien. So that is the secret of the "true lead' in the water or why Ming is yang - as has been a point of contention and confusion. See above for how this is done. as quoted above from Chapter 10, page 110 and then O.K. so this clarifies the secret of the eyes for me - in fact gives me a whole other dimension to Taoist Yoga. I really had been pondering this ever since I first read this book - and this is just the beginning of cracking the code of the text. Definitely truly fascinating.
  18. Neidan vs Qigong

    I want to first of all thank Zoom for actually quoting a full sentence of Taoist Yoga (compared to the super-secret Neidan school). Now keep in mind - I didn't say the information wasn't there - simply I didn't know what you were referring to. Now that you provided the quote - I realize I am aware of that passage and indeed I am glad you have emphasized it, since it's a crucial sentence. Why is it crucial? Because if you keep studying Taoist Yoga you find that actually the sentence you are perturbed about is the whole focus of chapter six and chapter seven. Now maybe you don't believe me and you want me to quote - but I do think you believe me and you can check it out yourself. So the phrase "it should be driven into the lower tan t'ien" - it is first returned to again as a certain type of fire practice described in Chapter 5 where the various types of fire are detailed - alchemy being all based on fire. So, I'm going by memory here, but it seems to be that to "drive the spirit down" is to use the fire of the heart to do so. Now - perhaps I'm just more interested in practicing than looking up the quotes. haha. As you know I have quoted a lot from the Taoist Yoga book already. But so chapter five indicates that it is fire of the spirit but then says that chapter six and seven will give the full details of that technique of fire. So as I said before in my own practice I got up to chapter six but since I had not studied that enough I didn't not realize its crucial importance and so I was not able to seal up the chi - or to End the Leakage as it is described in the book that Taoist Yoga is based on. So to seal up the chi - to "bake it" as the analogy is used of firing clay bricks - so that the clay will be prevented from turning back into water (i.e. fluid that is lost)..... This technique requires very much like the Golden Flower - the focus of chapter six is the rotating of the eyes to seal up the qi - because each eye - one is the Tai Chi as the Lunar energy (the built up yin chi energy that connects back to the heart as the dragon) while the other is the Solar as the tiger - the yang chi as the true lead of the jing, water - eternal life. Now to be honest I have to go back and study that chapter more - to discern the specifics more of the meanings of the two eyes. But the point being by rotating the eyes those two spirit lights merge together to create the prenatal spirit qi energy - and this enables the deep serenity that opens up the inner cell of the lower tan t'ien. And so - this is actually a nonduality experience and practice but only truly achieved after the lower tan t'ien is filled up with yin chi energy. At that stage in the practice you can go without food and water - at first one night - and no sleep - then one week and then a month, etc. So for me - I stumbled into this without fully understanding it - so I went a week with just a half glass of water and needing less sleep as it went on - while the yang qi kept increasing. The point being Zoom - as people have said - to stabilize the energy requires to keep storing it up in the lower tan t'ien. Now what is quite - well hard to describe - is that at this point in the practice the whole body is filled with electromagnetic energy - as the yang qi builds up - and so literally the centers of the hands, feet and top of head are pulsating with chi. So with that ability then the electromagnetic energy can convert whatever is needed chemically in the body - oxygen, water, and nutrients. It's not just a normal electromagnetic energy more like electrogravitic energy. Because also at this stage then you can get a spacetime vortex if the yin shen leaves the body - and that is detailed in chapter 11 - the dizziness. It also says that after the first experience of deep serenity - the one night - you come out of it confused from that first real taste of Emptiness. That is indeed what happened to me. So - now the question of stabilizing that energy - as I said - I saw dead spirits - that floated in from outside to hover around the qigong master and I said nothing to no one but he confirmed that indeed he was healing those dead people. I also saw the yin shen spirits that the qigong master created repeatedly out of the top of his head, each one breaking off and floating out to heal people - each one specifically created for each person being healed. So the point being - that when the Cavity of Original Spirit is activated as the Tai Chi experience then it is positive spirit in the sense that the light is seen outside of your head - not just inside the head - .... And so - to stabilize this requires to envelop the yin shen with more yang qi in the lower tan t'ien and this is how Chapter 10 details the practice - the immortal breathing - so the small universe as this stage has the prenatal qi going in one direction while the yang qi goes in the other direction. There are other parts in the book where the teacher describes his practice of driving the spirit down to his lower tan t'ien. But it's important to keep in mind that the prenatal spirit is more than just light - but the spirit-vitality that is itself manifested as the lower tan t'ien. So - as Master Nan, Huai-chin points out - the experiences at this stage are not literally the spirit rises out of the top of the head, etc. I mean - yes I did see that happening - but the only way I could see it happening was that I was already holographically, in a sense, transformed past-death - into that astral realm - and so too your own physical body is transformed. In other words - the lower tan t'ien isn't limited to a physical location despite it being focused as such - the energy is holographically interactive with the Emptiness itself as a kind of spacetime vortex that is continuously generating energy. For example the original qigong master said that he can now see light in his lower tan t'ien all the time - just by turning the light around - focusing on the Emptiness. So yes - all of this I did not understand at the time since I had not studied Taoist Yoga and certainly as I said I need to study what that means more - the two eyes - and yes that is the secret of the Golden Flower. The thing is - that unless the heart is totally pure with virtue then chapter one can not be achieved on its own - and this is repeated later in the book in chapter six and seven and later. It is stated that indeed the masters taught that all was needed was to drive or "fix" the spirit in the lower tan tien as is taught in chapter one. So what this means is that "knowing the location" of the Center of Prenatal Vitality - the center of the brain as the pineal gland - is not enough - since the Tai Chi is an experience of positive spirit that is nondualistic - it is "neither this, nor that," the neti, neti logic of Buddhism as is repeated in Taoist Yoga. Now - so as Nan, Huai-chin teaches people can access any of these realms of experience but that is different than stabilizing at that level. So for me what happened is that I began to stop practicing just because the energy was too powerful! And so then the qigong master stuck his finger to my forehead and he shot shen qi into the center of my brain and then I felt this strong magnetic bliss in the center of my brain. Now at that point my energy channels had already been closing up but I knew that the qigong master had caught sort of the tail end of what was left of my training to leverage the work I had done. But then I got real curious - did what the qigong master - would it be permanent or would that go away also? Because you have to realize - I actually moved nine times in one year - I mean the experience - I could feel people's energy in the other apartments in the building I lived in. I suddenly realized I was surrounded by people with all these energy blockages and I was interacting with the blockages - I was actually sucking up people's illnesses like some electromagnetic vacuum cleaner. haha. O.K. so then I stopped practicing for a couple months and my energy channels really closed up but sure enough that magnetic bliss in the center of the brain did not go away. So that is the Cavity of PreNatal Vitality - the pineal gland connection to the qi of the Emptiness itself. As Taoist Yoga says - there is no "wondrous light" in the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality. Not yet - the Cavity of Original Spirit as the Upper Tan T'ien does not exist - not until the training is done! But again when that is achieved the light is not just internal nor is it just external - it is a nondualistic holographic experience. This can become permanent. So what happens as per the small universe training, is that the increased yin chi energy from the lower tan tien then feeds the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality - so that there can be increased Emptiness focus which then actually increases the spirit energy of the Cavity of Spirit. Now think about it - how could the qigong master create "yin shen" after "yin shen" - multiple yin shens - each one different for the purpose of healing different people? That is actually prenatal spirit energy in action - through that deep small universe practice of alchemical transformation. I'm not saying I understand it - but I do think that studying Taoist Yoga more will reveal more answers. For example the heart as the Cavity of the Spirit is also the source of the Dragon but the Dragon, alchemically, is hidden in the Tiger - to create the Lower Tan T'ien. So how does that happen? It happens because the Cavity of PreNatal Vitality is the Emptiness focus of qi energy - that actually increases the qi energy of the Cavity of Spirit and envelops the spirit fire - since the Yuan Qi is more powerful than the Yin Chi that is the heart fire. That is how then, when the yin chi is sublimated, by the Quick Fire, strong breathing, that it then creates more prenatal qi energy. What Neidan emphasizes is that there is not enough standing active exercise in the beginning - but Taoist Yoga explains why this is so crucial - because Taoist Yoga repeatedly explains, as per the book it is based on, that unless there is strong Quick Fire, then the qi will get deconverted back into fluid and lost out of the body. So at first, when the lower tan t'ien is built up, as Chapter One states - the Patriarch feared that the student would not know the proper method and so when the positive spirit as prenatal qi manifests in the lower tan tien it causes the penis to shiver and then the qi turns back into fluid and it is lost. So the first step is to master the Quick Fire method. What I recommend is the horse stand with the thighs parallel to the ground. The original qigong master trained like that at Shaolin - two hours, no moving, each day, horse stance, thighs parallel to the ground. Now to do that, the lower tan t'ien has to already be filled up with qi energy - yin chi energy - or else you simply don't have the strength to not move for 2 hours like that. So what is really going on???!! What happened - at the end of three months - his third eye was fully open. In other words - he had "laid the foundation" and - had achieved up to Chapter 8 of Taoist YOga - and how -- He, by doing 2 hours of horse stance like that thighs parallel to the ground - he had.... When I recently talked to the other qigong master he said he had done 1 1/2 hours nonstop of horse stand with thighs parallel to the ground.... I know, just in my experience with doing horse stance like this, as the yin chi is built up in the lower tan tien through celibacy - the thing is that the horse stance is not just physical celibacy but it also empties out the mind - by sublimating the yin chi up to the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality. The qigong master told me that the main reason people can't achieve the real Emptiness is because of lack of will power, lack of kidney energy to go into the Emptiness. So in actuality the more you do the horse stance, the more celibacy is achieved, then the longer you can keep doing the horse stance - and this requires controlling your dreams obviously. For me I just wake up and go into horse stance with thighs parallel to the ground. Slowly you can hold it longer - and build up the yin chi energy that way as the foundation of the training. The original qigong master said he does that eye rolling exercise every day! That is what merges the Solar and Lunar qi energies and that is what "drives" the spirit to the lower tan t'ien. But he first pointed this out in his healing book as an exercise to heal the eyes - he didn't reveal the alchemical reason behind why he does that eye rolling exercise everyday. haha. He just said it keeps his eyes healthy. But then the Solar and Lunar meditations are the focus of Level 3 of SFQ for Enlightenment - just as it is also the focus of chapters six and seven of Taoist Yoga - the two eyes as the Solar and Lunar energy - to finally seal up the lower tan t'ien to enable the qi to get into the inner cell of the lower tan t'ien for deep serenity of Emptiness practice. So that one sentence that you emphasized actually has a lot to it - and again I would have to study chapter six and seven more to understand it better but then anyone else can also do the same. I just don't have the time right now.
  19. Neidan vs Qigong

    There's been several references to my comments so I will reply. Bluemind stated that the super-secret Neidan school dude was "arguing" with me about what Taoist Yoga meant. I have argued plenty times before - like when I was in graduate school at the U of MN I argued with the General Counsel at the University - in nine meetings that took place over a year. I won the argument. The super-secret Neidan school quoting half-sentences from the Taoist Yoga book is not an "argument" and so I have to disagree with Bluemind. The super-secret Neidan school not only resorted to quoting half sentences - the examples were a half sentence about the penis standing erect, a half sentence about generative force, and a false reference to farting - all three of those examples were then lied about. The lie about the penis standing erect was that it meant energy had been lost. In fact the rest of that sentence said to gather the energy when the penis is erect. The lie about the generative force was again that energy had been lost when in fact the rest of the sentence says the generative force changes to fluid which is lost. And finally the secret-super Neidan school claimed that Taoist Yoga says farting causes loss of energy - in fact the book says that farting is fine but that shen can be lost out of the anus - so just be careful you are actually just passing gas and not shen. That is not so crazy - the same information is discussed in Bill Bodri and Master Nan, Huai-chin's tome, "Measuring Meditation." So my question to Bluemind is - yes the super-secret Neidan school is super-secret but they have to resort to lying about other Neidan teachings. That is no longer super-secret. O.K. so then someone else commented that if I am so focused on spirituality then why did I have to write "penis" so many times? That is a logical error. I didn't write "penis" so many times - I was quoting the Taoist Yoga book which writes penis so many times. See the difference? Now I have seen on the advertised Neigong Forum that they agree that celibacy in itself is not essential to the spiritual training. Again the Taoist Yoga book completely disproves this by detailing the physiological reasons of how jing is purified into qi energy and so it is stored up and without constant attention it can also then be deconverted back into fluid. So for the Neigong people to say - yeah Mopai says just don't practice alchemy until 3 days after sex - this is silly. As Taoist Yoga details - you have to store up your jing energy for at least 3 months just to start filling up the lower tan tien. So once you blow that stored up load - it will be a big blow of load that has been deconverted. You won't even know that unless you do the training. For example I went 6 months last year without ejaculation - so I know from experience how much energy is lost. O.K. so - then also the super-secret Neidan school says yes qigong is o.k. to just restore your jing energy before you even start the "real" training. Wow - big news! (sarcasm). Again Taoist Yoga points this out in detail - there are different stages to the small universe practice. But the super-secret Neidan school thinks that 100 days of celibacy is enough (for immortality). What a joke! haha. Even the qigong courses also teach this 100 days foundation training. Yes before that the small universe is just building up "yin chi" and is not yet the "real" yang qi energy. Yes I know that most people never even reach the "yang qi" level. This is called Nirvikalpa Samadhi in Vedia Yoga and Vivekananda said the same thing - it is actually an advanced state that most people never reach but in actuality it is just the start of real meditation! I realize that qigong doesn't emphasize advance training - like I said Chunyi mentioned it once that I heard - saying no thoughts about sex are allowed for advanced training. That was in 2000. Obviously not many can hold that standard - just writing or talking about this subject goes against it. The real training is going to be done in silence in a purified environment. But then again - the real training is available for anyone who wants to do it. O.K. so then ZOOM shared his enlightenment energy experience and said that I could probably quote from Taoist Yoga to confirm his experience. Indeed Taoist Yoga shares a similar experience of the person's face seemingly falling back into his head, down into his body, and then he experiences the Tai Chi. So Zoom though insists that Taoist Yoga teaches in the first chapter that the energy is somehow "shot down" to the lower tan tien. Zoom has made this claim several times but he has never quoted from Taoist Yoga to back up his claim. I urge him to do so - I have no idea what you are referring to Zoom. In terms of the lower tan tien as the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality and the Cavity of Spirit as the heart expressed out of the eyes and the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality as the pineal gland - when we connect the latter two then the lower tan t'ien is created as a new energy center. So in your experience Zoom you say that the MING was pulled up to the upper tan t'ien based on the yang qi in the jing getting pulled out as a like-like principle - by focusing on the spirit light energy in the brain. So in Western science a good analogy for this is a laser that resonates based on frequency of light - so you create the same frequency and then there is a feedback as a harmonic oscillator and through resonance the laser builds up in amplitude intensity - the number of photons increase, just like pushing a swing, the increase in amplitude is from the timing of the pushing (or in this case the immutable thought that goes into the Emptiness as Taoist Yoga teaches). If the light is a higher frequency then the frequency energy intensity increases, etc. In terms of the lower tan t'ien - it is created out of the Cavity of Vitality which is below the abdomen. ZOOM referred to the lower tan t'ien as below the abdomen but in fact the lower tan t'ien is behind the abdomen. So the cavity of Vitality is the stored up yin jing energy that is ionized by the Cavity of Spirit fire descending - the yin chi converts the yin jing into yang jing or yin chi. This in turn is pulled up, yin chi, sublimated into the pineal gland as the Cavity of Prenatal Vitality which then turns it into yang chi as light energy - yin shen - which is seen internally in the brain. This, in turn, increases the spirit of the heart, the Cavity of Spirit - the yin shen, which in turn has more yin chi energy to better convert more of the yin jing energy into yang jing (yin chi). So that is the positive feedback loop of energy creation. So that is the cycle of alchemy - how it works. So Zoom then referred to how other traditions just focus on light in the third eye as enough. This is true but the problem is that it can cause kundalini syndrome because too much energy stuck in the brain and Taoist Yoga even refers to this - saying when the qi rises up from the heart into the brain it causes too much energy for the person. This can work from the top down also - for example Poonjaji shot shakti energy into a young Western male - shakti being the shen laser energy - and the man was running around for a couple days in a manic state screaming that he was Jesus. That is detailed in the memoir of Poonjaji, Nothing Ever Happens. So after that Poonjaji did not use as much energy. The same thing has been described by the qigong master - when I told him how he made the center of my brain on fire - he said that back then (in 2003) he used to use a lot more energy but then the original qigong master told him not to use so much. Whether Zoom had enough energy for his macro-psychokinetic experience - it is possible. My new blogpost describes the qigong master recently having some amazing macro-psychokinetic experiences. http://innersoundqigong.blogspot.com/2015/02/my-latest-greatest-with-qigong-master.html But what we have to realize is that when these enlightenment experiences happen as a taste of what Taoist Yoga calls "positive spirit" - yang qi, yuan qi, yin shen energy - they in fact are a nondual experience that fills the body with strong electromagnetic energy and also moves the spirit out of the body. So the answer to this is to store the energy better in the lower tan tien. As the small universe practice focuses on - the lower tan tien is the safe store battery of the body and so for example in chapter 11 of Taoist Yoga it states that if your yin shen spirit leaves the body without enough yang qi enveloping it then this causes dizziness. I had this happen to me but at the time I didn't understand why - (the dizziness is actually a spacetime vortex) because I never thought I could experience something described so much later in the book. So I had not studied the book well enough that far along into it. haha. So then readers of ZOOM's statement said yes but he needed to stabilize that experience - or as the super-secret Neidan school said about another person reporting the opening of their small universe channels - there needs to be a permanent transformation. This is true - it is true for whether it is qigong training or neidan training. Those are just terminologies - they don't change the actualities on the ground. As the original qigong master says - there first has to be a foundation built up in the lower tan tien - as the foundation for the higher frequency energy. This stuff (the N/om of the belly as the fire hot electromagnetic snake energy) has been going on since the original human culture that all humans arise from - the Bushmen in Africa have a N/om snake energy statue that some date back to 70,000 BCE) - all the males were required to undergo the spiritual energy training and it is the same as the Neidan training. haha. But the thing to remember is that original the spiritual energy was used to heal the females. It's only that some males went off by themselves to store up their energy and by doing so developed the yang shen abilities - to shapeshift into lions, etc. So then the rest of the tribe became afraid of these males. Then from that origin, alchemy spread into Egypt from Ethiopia - but that is its original roots. It was picked up by Arabic culture based on the ancient Greeks studying in Egypt and then also it spread into India, China, etc. but obviously its original roots are in Africa. The point is that the energy development process starts from the Emptiness and ends in the Emptiness also - that is the nondual nature of it - it develops via the complementary opposite male-female principles expressed as body-mind transformation. So sure we can all hope to learn from the super-secret Neidan school but information is not much use without practice. Since this is a forum it's based on information sharing but the Neidan school remains super-secret (except for their necessary lies about qigong and other Neidan teachings). For me personally - Emptiness is infinite energy - if someone is dependent on attacking others to put them down - in order to raise themselves up - this is by definition not a nondualist approach to reality as being a win-win infinite situation. Instead it's a typical materialist Western dualist approach to reality. Against the Taoist Yoga book it's been said it contains a lot of practical information - but that on its own is nothing wrong. haha. People for the Neidan school have referenced the ancient Taoist teachers as the real lineage. This is true but then the Ch'an Buddhist debates with the Taoists record these differences which in fact are not really different - the nondualist foundation of the teaching remains and people can argue all they want about the fancy terms used in Chinese or whatever other language. haha. The Bushmen when they use their magical singing to induce the trance dance training - the words are almost always just mumbo-jumbo meaningless words. Chuang-Tzu makes this same point when he says that human language is no different than birds chirping or other animal noises that seem more or less meaningless to us humans. But as Taoist Yoga states - there is one type of dream that is real and not just a dream. Neidan can say that the small universe is fake - but the storing up of yin chi energy is measured by real results. So the only real way to test the validity of the Taoist Yoga book is to try it out - practice it and see what happens. But then again the standards are very strict so success will be rare. Is it dangerous? I suppose - as I've reported I made the errors that are warned against in the book. But I only learned of those errors by going back to study the book more - despite seeking out advice from the qigong masters. They indeed help me though - more than the book - because the qigong master actually cleared out all the bad energy - the lower emotional yin jing energy blockages I had sucked in through my perineum from people over about 8 years experience. The Taoist Yoga book refers to this as "bad air" that is taken into the body. But the good news is that with continued practice and persistence then the errors can be fixed and improved upon. I am working to do so. I don't have any regrets but has it been dangerous? Yep - I accidentally pulled a lady's spirit out of the top of her head - without touching her - and she bawled nonstop for at least 15 minutes. As the qigong teaches - it is good, better and best - why? Because again we are working from the nondual reality as the foundation of the teaching - call it whatever fancy Neidan term you want. haha.
  20. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    There's a new book called Countdown which successfully argues that no one should have more than one baby. Most people have more than one and so some of us definitely should not have any children. In the next 50 years more food has to be produced than was produced in all the history of humanity. If you do meditation correctly then there should be "retraction" as the qi is building up. At midnight the yin energy goes to extreme so that the yang manifests - so then there is erection but it has to be still based on Emptiness as mind celibacy in order to be used as the "alchemical agent." So during the day then sublimation and purification is required - sublimation in the morning, purification in the evening. If you have any evil thoughts then you just have to do more sublimation and purification and adjust the various factors of your personal knowledge - diet, energy around you, your mental focus, etc. Then if you can build up your yin chi energy then the energy manifests stronger but if you can maintain the Emptiness focus with celibacy then the channels of your body open up. You should be able to sit in full lotus in ease for 2 hours nonstop - should have strong electromagnetic energy between your hands, electromagnetic energy pulsating in the center of hands and feet, top of head, and then activation of the third eye - the middle of the brain gets strong electromagnetic force with light, etc. Finally you see light externally - and hopefully can continue the practice. So the key is to use external breathing as "quick fire" - the horse stance and standing active exercise - since the mind on its own does not have enough power to sublimate and purify the jing energy. As for your own energy - you have to judge that - it depends on how much jing you were born with, the environmental conditions you experienced like pollution or bad energy conditions or how spiritual your mind is focused on - and then your diet and how much exercise you do, etc. But as Taoist Yoga teaches even if your 80 years old you can still restore your energy to access immortality. So the key is to focus on the solution. Neidan versus qigong is just terminology - it has different meanings depending on who is using the terminology. I have met people who have grown taller and have had bones straightened out from being healed by the qigong master I mentioned. So yeah the energy healing from the Emptiness can do many wonders as long as the focus you have also can receive the energy. For example a lady could not walk but when the qigong master healed her she was in such shock because for years she had not be able to walk - so her mind refused to believe that she had walked out of the qigong healing center. So then her blockage came back.
  21. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    the term "semen retention" is wrong - if you have that in mind then you start from the wrong foundation. The goal is to create qi, the goal is not to retain semen. You should not create semen in the first place. By focusing on the Emptiness then you convert food into qi energy. Otherwise you need the deep breathing horse stance to empty out the thoughts and sublimate the energy again to convert it back to qi energy. It would be good for you to experience the shen energy directly - the laser-love energy. So get a energy healing from http://springforestqigong.com and yes Chunyi does make people grow taller and bones to grow back, etc. so the energy he works with can restore prenatal jing energy.
  22. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    Do horse stance with thighs parallel to the ground - hold as long as possible. Arms stretched out in front. This will both sublimate your jing energy by deep fast breathing to ionize it in the upper body - and purify the energy by Emptying out the mind via the extreme exercise. Then you can do "moving of yin and yang" exercise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1sPDntOTs The postnatal jing - depends on your choice - but if you need to restore with meat and zinc-strong food like chocolate or oysters, etc. Also iron-strong food like black beans and beef. The live foods is to convert shen into jing - the pigments like chlorophyll in greens and black pigment are photoreceptors which means they convert photons into electrons for increased qi energy. Also raw onions have catalyse - the enzyme that keeps your hair black, dark, and healthy. sweet potato is even better for catalyse enzyme source. But Taoist Yoga warns against onions, garlic, leeks since they have strong yin jing energy that easily creates fluid. So again the key is the sublimation and purification to convert the food energy to higher frequency. So also work on sitting in full lotus - which "burns bad karma" - again the pressure on the thighs will sublimate and purify the energy. A good goal is 2 hours nonstop full lotus. If eating meat - you have to be careful since food is still "yin jing" and so it has to be sublimated and purified before sleeping. Best to eat main meals before and around noon as your body has the energy focused for digesting then. So it depends on your situation - that is called "knowledge" - to monitor. Also you can lose energy from other people - losing it out of your eyes, etc. So you have to focus on the Emptiness - mind control - As the Bible teaches - thinking about it is the same as doing it. Taoist yoga alchemy confirms the physiology behind that philosophy. So also what happens with sleep is your spirit heart fire naturally descends to the lower body but if it is not purified then it changes the qi energy back into fluid. Just do horse stance at night - wake yourself up and go into horse stance. So you have to meditate to exorcise the subconscious evil energy which can be caused just by images as light information - no left-brain words necessary. If you can see light internally in your brain with eyes closed that means you are purifying the jing energy to create the yin chi energy. So some hunters in the Amazon would eat 2 pounds of meat a day - so that will be fine if you need to recharge. Just use cayenne, dried chili peppers and turmeric to keep your arteries clean and the blood pressure down - the same with eggs. Eggs are a great source of lecithin and some guys eat 6 a day but then with fish I recommend sustainable caught Wild Planet sardines for Omega 3 and Vitamin D.
  23. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    Here's how it goes: yin jing into yang jing (yin chi) yin chi into yang qi (restoring yuan chi) yang qi (yin shen) into yang shen (restoring yuan jing). so it cycles back round like that. Think of in cosmology - if you have gamma radiation striking each other it creates matter. For example Yan Xin qigong master was proven to produce increases in gamma radiation as a byproduct of his healing. So if qigong masters are doing healing that straightens out bones and makes bones grow, etc. this is similar to replenishing prenatal jing.
  24. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    http://thetaobums.com/topic/13145-the-wu-chi-diagram/page-4 This - you create yang jing (aka yin chi) through the alchemical training. Once the Tai Chi is experienced through the third eye opening then you can access Emptiness as a type of immortality which recharges prenatal energy. The alchemical training relies on the Emptiness as the production of prenatal energy - so it's just a purification by fire process. But yeah the terminology I use is from the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book so just study that book more. Vitality is qi and generative force is jing and spirit is shen. Quick Fire - deep fast breathing transmutes the yin jing into yin chi. Heart's fire transmutes the yin chi into yang chi. Prenatal Vitality fire of the pineal gland increases the heart shen spirit. So the original unity as Tai Chi is always-already there. and http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CE8QFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.taohealing.com%2FBeijingEssayMichaelWinn.pdf&ei=ednSVP2rG5L5ggShzoJ4&usg=AFQjCNE2w_wJXNEYcRB2KqbrQpvVNvS6ig&sig2=kppKpXzW1nMeh-qlgOohYw&bvm=bv.85142067,d.eXY pdf link
  25. REBUILD REGAIN RECOVER ADD YUAN/PRENATAL JING

    http://thetaobums.com/topic/32100-immortality-yin-yang-or-pure-yang/page-5 This thread has people discussing the issue. The basic agreement is at first you do more standing active exercises like Tai-Chi type to strengthen and fill up the lower tan tien with yin chi energy. Do that 3 times more higher ratio than sitting passive meditation. You do that for 3 months with celibacy - no loss of fluids - but more importantly maintain mind celibacy with focus on the Emptiness. The pineal gland is the "Cavity of Prenatal Vitality" - so if it is focused on the Emptiness this causes the creation of the lower tan tien. The lower tan tien is the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality - it is created by the pineal gland prenatal qi merging with the Cavity of Spirit - the heart-fire or yin chi - which then descends to create the lower tan tien by sublimating and purifying the Cavity of Vitality. the Cavity of Vitality is the stored up yin jing energy below the abdomen - yin jing that is activated by the pineal gland when evil thoughts are produced - the evil thoughts cause the pineal gland to shoot prenatal qi down the spine which then converts the cavity of vitality into fluid for reproduction. So the standing active exercises create "quick fire" which is deep fast breathing that has the power - the alchemical power - to sublimate the yin jing energy of the cavity of vitality up into the upper body where it is purified by the Emptiness qi energy. So then once the lower tan tien is filled up with yin chi energy this activates the middle tan t'ien that creates the yang qi energy. Whether it is yuan qi or yang qi depends on the purification process - if you had to restore your yuan qi that means using food and celibacy with the Emptiness focus to create yang qi. So it was not the yuan qi you were born with but nevertheless it is still production of "positive spirit." At that point the small universe aka microcosmic orbit will no longer be the fake qigong practice as the Neidan advocates like to emphasize, but rather with the yin chi filled up in the lower tan t'ien the "real" microcosmic orbit will kick in. If you keep focusing on the Emptiness then the yang qi and yuan qi cycle, alternating the front and back channels, as "immortal breathing." At that stage the body is filled with very strong electromagnetic energy and also reality is holographic - with spirit travel possible - the top of the skull pulsates and softens and opens up the bone fissures like a baby. The two eyes are the lunar and solar energy as the Tai Chi or lunar (filled up yin chi from the heart-fire descending down) and the solar as the immaterial spirit energy - yuan chi. So if the eyes are rotated with more Emptiness focus this then seals the energy into a deeper cell of the lower tan t'ien thereby preventing the qi from leaving the lower tan t'ien where, left, it turns back into fluid and is lost out of the body. This is called the End of Leakage and is crucial to finally achieve the foundation for further work. If you can achieve the above steps then the third eye will be fully opened up, you'll be a qigong master (or insert fancy Chinese terminology here for your various Neidan immortality interpretations) and then you can recharge the energy from the Emptiness fairly easily. If you want to just store up more energy then you can go for higher levels of immortality but a fully opened third eye is definitely a type of immortality - direct access to the Emptiness to recharge the prenatal energy.