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The book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" is focused on the fact that creating chi from the air is completely errononeous. Chi creation is based on celibacy and only through celibacy is real chi created. So just a simple reverse breathing is fine until the chi energy builds up and then real breathing is not required as much as the chi energy creates "breathless ecstasy" as Shri Yukestwar stated.

See this is a projection of Western evil - two evils don't make a good. That's the whole problem with Western esoteric "magic" - it's just a reverse of the Christian Platonic tradition - it does not really change anything!! So that is why full lotus is the main practice for meditation - -because it enables the most efficient means to sublimate the life force energy and then to purify it by bringing it down to the heart. The quote you have made of me - is directly from the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. See Westerners want to belittle this philosophy of no evil thoughts as mind celibacy - Westerners want to belittle it as just old-fashioned repressed morality. NO!! It's not morality as much as it is psychophysiology!! The Taoists understood psychophysiology better than modern science has yet to understand. When we have thoughts focused on reproduction this creates a trigger in the brain that causes chi energy to go down the spine through the marrow and then the chi energy causes the scrotum to produce fluid to be ejaculated. So retaining semen is the WRONG practice - it is folk Taoism. Also for the person who says that you can have multiple orgasms without climax - the key here is no ejaculation. Western science recognizes the psychophysiological difference between ejaculation and internal emission. Ejaculation causes a trigger or switch to the stress sympathetic nervous system. Internal emission stays in the vagus nerve and causes the dopamine build up to switch to serotonin - just as happens with the female orgasm. So males need to learn to have female orgasms. Why? Because Nature is female - parthenogenesis is the basis for alchemical transformation of Nature. Males are not used in Nature - for most of life - bacteria - and then for larger life forms there is still parthenogenesis. O.K. so semen retention is not correct because the semen is created as the opposite process of creating the lower tan tien. the lower tan tien does not exist - it is a closed cavity - until the mind is emptied and the heart has no passion or evil thoughts - and only then does the spirit light energy cause the chi to descend to create the lower tan tien and it does so by sublimating the cavity of chi that is otherwise below the lower tan tien. So this is why qigong masters are so rare - modern society is based all on male ejaculation - and so retaining semen is a tantric dirty practice - the semen is pollution for the body -- when it is not ejaculated. It's true that semen has lecithin in high levels which then feeds the brain and that with actual Emptiness meditation then the semen can be ionized and purified to create chi energy - but this is a backwards method - it is like paddling upstream. To create the chi energy requires Emptiness meditation - so it can be down the slow hard way - or just from the beginning. But to do it the slow hard way - it will always limit the amount of chi energy created until the Emptiness is finally embraced again as the main focus of practice. This is next to impossible to do in the mundane world - which is what thetaobums is! haha. So all these posts about retaining semen - they go against the real training. That is why the real training is done in secret or in silence - by people who already understand this. Otherwise it's just folk Taoism.

He's just trying to pull out one sentence out of context to change the accuracy of the article. haha. Again this is because the denialists are based on force - they are industrialist thugs - and so left-brain reason is just a front for them - it's actually this way for science as a whole. I don't think science can "save" the environment - science is just accurately tracking the destruction to ecology that science is creating!! Of course most people are in denial about what science is doing to the planet. Others are not in denial but it's more like "deers in the headlight" reaction. So the scientists keep changing their predictions - based on the still linear deterministic analysis - and so the predictions always fall behind the necessary steps needed to stay ahead of the game so to speak. This is why people don't understand hyperbolic statements - they are necessary to reset a nonlinear, nondeterministic system - just like if a person's car is sliding off to one direction then the person steers to the opposite extreme in order to get the car to go straight again. That is the real purpose of hyperbolic statements - otherwise just by relying on rational linear planning the scientific predictions will never be on target. So then what is the result? The supercomputers using their nondeterministic, nonlinear analysis are in charge of society! It is the Matrix - machine controlled automation. Automation is the number one cause of job loss. So then the more techno-fixes for the environmental crisis then the more jobs are lost - and this goes against the supposed blue-green alliance. I have experienced this directly! I was a fall guy for the automation of my department - I saw many people get fired since the information I relied on was transferred from my paper job to a "supercomputer" - a speed dialer. This transfer was done in a top-down fascist manner that was totally inefficient for the nonprofit bottom line but was effective at concentrating power at the top. David F. Noble has documented this same automation trend as an inefficient concentration of power - in his book "The Forces of Production" and Noble puts science in its apocalyptic Freemasonic context in his book "Religion of Technology" and the misoygny of science is detailed in his book "World Without Women." Of course those are all very radical views - still incomplete without a Pythagorean-Taoist analysis. haha. Noble was getting there by tracing the origins of this whole situation to the tantric technology myths of ancient civilzation - the focus of his final book which I have not read yet.

The vagus nerve is what controls breathing. So for example - I can just activate my vagus nerve by "flexing" my pineal gland. But sitting in full lotus for a couple hours then first sublimates the lower body hormones via the right side vagus nerve and then brings them down to the heart via the left side vagus nerve. So then that slows down the breathing. So there is body posture, mind, breathing, and sound. Those are the four basic principles of Spring Forest Qigong. But Chunyi Lin says the most simple is the most powerful and so this means unconditional love as consciousness which just goes into the Emptiness. But what guides the energy is the yin-yang dynamics. You want to say the autonomic system takes over during unconsciousness -- yes - but through meditation you slow down your thoughts so you go into the deep dreamless state and so this also slows down the breathing and heart rate while also increasing the electromagnetic energy via the heart. Posture will do this through the yin-yang dynamics and then the small universe meditation combines the mind with synchronized breathing and sound - Ohm and Mua - and then also posture. So if you sit in full lotus with the tongue against the roof of the mouth then the small universe will happen naturally. The necessity for breathing will decrease as the mind also decreases and then the chi energy increases. But this only works through celibacy - first the jing energy has to be built up - and so to achieve the nirvikalpa state is the goal but it is also rare - the immortal breathing stage. I got to this just on a beginners level. So then the spirit energy has to be stored up in the lower tan tien so that the spirit is enveloped by chi energy - to do this means to leave the mundane world - and so already the chi energy is very strong - the electromagnetic fields enable you to go without food, without water, and also without breathing - all on a minimal level. So this stage means left brain thoughts are also minimal. That stage is called converting jing to chi energy -- so it has to be done based on the Emptiness as the source of energy - your light spirit love consciousness combined with the prana going into the Emptiness. It's just a matter of meditation practice. The endless mind fixation is a materialist limitation and so the breathing will always be stuck on a materialist level without the real development of chi energy. You might get some yin chi energy but there can only be a real build up of jing energy by relying on the Emptiness. Mind concentration does not require thinking but rather requires pointed concentration and visualization - so that the left brain is suppressed and then as the chi energy builds up then the pineal gland electromagnetic energy increases to the higher frequency of the spirit shen energy. So then at that stage the thoughts are spirit-based - not normal thoughts - but direct perception based on light energy and then chi energy. But if the mind is still relied on then it creates imbalance as the mind energy is too limited - the source of the energy is no thoughts - no visions - just Listening to the source of sound - to build up the yin-yang energy dynamics through the full lotus posture. Can you sit in full lotus posture? Because that will activate the proper breathing -- just staying in the full lotus posture. O.K. for example if I get the hiccups -- it is much easier to just flex or focus the pineal gland to stop the hiccups - rather than to flex my diaphragm to stop the hiccups. I posted this as a thread because I did the experiment - I could not stop my hiccups by flexing the diaphragm. I was still having a limited materialist definition of reality. So then I just flexed my pineal gland - just again as final resort -- and the hiccups stopped immediately. I knew this was possible because I read how the reflex to sneeze is controlled by the back of the brain and so I can also flex the pineal gland to stop sneezing. But anyway hiccups are caused by a spasm of the diaphgram. So to slow down the breathing requires first to slow down the mind by increasing the heart chi energy - and this means to first open up the body chi channels by building up the jing energy which requires Emptiness meditation.

So prana or qi controls breathing but shen or shakti controls prana. The immortal breathing is when the eight extra channels are opened up of the macrocosmic orbit - so you can sit in full lotus in ease for 2 hours - no moving. Shri Yukestwar called it : "breathless esctasy" - it is nirvikalpa samadhi. So this level then goes beyond immortal breathing as detailed in Taoist Yoga: alchemy and immortality. You focus the spirit on the lower tan tien so that the chi envelops the spirit energy. The immortal breathing is then the chi moves up from the feet - the center of the feet - up to the brain via the spine while the spirit goes down the front of the body and so it cycles like this. So you seem to want to know who regulates or controls this - the deeper level is to stay in Nirvikalpa Samadhi as the Emptiness - or God, etc. So alchemically again this is focusing the light or spirit in the lower tan tien but holographically it means your spirit enveloped in chi energy then is powered as your awareness to leave your body - or actually your body is extended holographically. Ummm.... so for example when I was in first grade I held my breath till I passed out and I hit my head on a couple cement corner walls and then on the cement floor, waking up to my head streaming out blood. Western science says that's impossible because the intention to hold the breath by the prefrontal cortex is over-ridden by the anterior cingulate gyrus of the limbic brain. But in non-western culture through yoga this is known -- for example the sherpas to qualify to guide the first ascent of Everest - they had to hold their breath till they passed out. O.K. but when the chi energy is strong this bypasses the physical process of breathing and so the person does not pass out. Instead the spirit goes beyond the body - or the body is extended - holographically. So is it the stillness of the mind - to empty out the left brain ego - which then allows a samadhi light vision spirit state to then guide the chi energy - and so that is a holographic visionary level. To stay in the emptiness then is to deepen the nirvikalpa state - unattached to any of the energy phenomenon - instead just allowing awareness of the movement of energy -- by the Emptiness itself -- not the mind.

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The mind controls the breath. When the chi electromagnetic increases then physical breathing is not needed as much - next to none -- the same with water and nutrition. At that stage the centers of the hands and feet and top of the skull pulsate or "breath" with electromagnetic energy and so it is like electrolysis so that water is created inside the brain from hydrogen and oxygen and the same with oxygen -- so that physical breathing becomes next to nothing. That is the immortal breathing stage. So the mind should be focused on building up the chi energy - until then just a relaxed reverse breathing is fine but the mind should be focused on the Emptiness to build up the chi energy.

Nithyananda does have thugs working for him....this Canadian psychologist and his son were beat up by Nithyananda thugs. http://www.deccanherald.com/content/125560/nithyananda-statement-differs-ranjitha-story.html So yeah.... there is some serious hanky panky power grabs going on.... http://standupfordharma.blogspot.com/2013/07/nithyananda-disciples-land-grabbing-in.html http://standupfordharma.blogspot.com/2013/06/victory-in-usa-against-nithyanandas.html http://nithy-myth-buster.blogspot.com/ http://www.scribd.com/doc/133252348/Nithyananda-Foundation-Fraud-Verdict-July-2012 Actual court conviction for fraud against Nithyananda http://nithyananda-cult.blogspot.com/ http://leninkaruppan.blogspot.com/ http://nithyanandaswami-cult.blogspot.com/2013/06/nithyananda-fraud.html https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=614780365205910&id=170255186340026 http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1809502/report-pro-kannada-activists-protest-nithyananda-plan-to-take-over-mutt http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2010/03/nithyanandas-girlfriend.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorcerer_and_the_White_Snake O.K. this is the movie -- the "last" video that qigong master Jim Nance watched - he quotes a line from this in his Qi-talk.... It's streaming on netflix.

yeah I did show him how I used to do the "O at a Ds" - so I said he would see my neck pulsating as the right side vagus nerve pulled up energy from my lower body when I "flexed" my pineal gland. So then I did it and he was pretty amazed. I then described how after an hour of full lotus then the left side vagus nerve and artery pulsates which then goes down to the heart to increase the chi energy. umm. So I did not transmit much energy to him just because it depends on how much food I've had since I did free healing all day for five years. haha. But my basic message to David was for him to learn to sit in full lotus. That's how I sit when I "flex" the pineal gland to transmit energy. But as I told David I don't do that anymore since it makes me smell and it's the wrong practice, etc. ummm.... I mean I have done it a few times in emergency situations. David said he felt high but he wasn't sure if it was from me charging him up or because he had gotten the free healing yesterday or a bit of both, etc. - he did not get a Jim Nance healing individually but just in the group healing. So he said he was crying during that as all these negative thoughts were getting cleared out of him. So I said - yeah that's what Jim calls "soul tears."

yep that was the first thing I said to David and David claims that the people accusing Nithyananda are actually people guilty of the things they falsely charge against Nithyananda. Anyway David then told me that actually his dad ran a cult and so David grew up in a cult also.... so I suspect this makes him vulnerable to the cult mentality. Yep I told David I would definitely check out Nithyananda. David said I can post anything we talk about -- so anyway we went down by the river in the city - my local qigong friend informed me that people camp there. Sure enough we found two tents - it is a forest quiet area right on the river but right in the city. So I gave the tent to David and so if he wants to camp there he can do that but right now he prefers the shelter so he can get food there, shower, etc. until he gets his I.D. His i.d. card was stolen and so he has to order a new one - said it would probably take a couple weeks. Another Spring Forest Qigong couple set David up with a cell phone and some money and anyway .... he has my phone number.... and he gave his phone number....

David is into this guru a lot. Also edited the http://normalbreathing.com site -

o.k. so my local qigong friend recommended a good place to take David where he can camp out in the city.... and so I am giving him the tent. So that should be better than the shelter..... I suppose he can switch back and forth.... Anyway so am feeding him as much as possible since he's way too skinny. Then finishing drying his clothes. Just gave him a pair of pants - I'm too fat to wear them now. haha. They're old but passable tan slack loose - he said he could do martial arts kicks in them. haha. o.k. now to feed him 4 eggs... he just had a slice of pizza and a salad with blueberries and cayenne - -of course! He said I definitely beat him on the cayenne tolerance. ummmm... oh yeah almonds - a bowl of them. Salted.

got baby now in my arm. broke news to the females. gonna drive the friend back to the city. females were not mad so that was awesome. haha. Mom said well you gotta feed him of course. Yep.

For more Spring Forest Qigong Master JIm Nance Qi-talks and "chats" they are on my blog and on http://jimnancexperience.wordpress.com and http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com is my blog. Yep! So I just went to check up on my new friend. I went out there at 3 a.m. last night since it was raining - a summer storm with loud thunder! I wasn't sure the $25 would hold up - since David said something about just needing to cover up the sides. But he said it was doing fine. He was actually already awake with his flashlight on - saying how loud the thunder was "echoing through the valley." haha. He had said to check on him in the morning - I went out just now and he seemed to be asleep. I figure after he spent a week in the scary shelter - he needs to catch up on his sleep. So I just walked away quietly. He looked real peaceful -- no movement. Tent appeared dry still. I got poison ivy - but I just use plaintain, a common weed that is the natural antidote. I warned him of this but there's no poison ivy in the forest -- so I think I got it when I got turned around, taking the wrong deer trail and I went back around through the meadow. No big deal - just go use some more plaintain. So yeah now I just gotta break the news to the four females somehow. I just called my local qigong friend to see if he could help - I thought maybe the SFQ Guild meeting was today - this morning. But nope. http://www.springforestqigong.com/index.php/new-guild-local-meeting-times Yeah July 27 is the next one. So a 20 year old, no i.d., he got some money from some of the other SFQ members who befriended him - a couple. But anyway....I was hoping he could couch surf in the city through my local qigong friend contact - he just bought a house - and then this young male could find some job to get his life together. ummm.... Yeah Jim said he would call me - so maybe we can do the Q & A chat then. I just bought a phone recording device - a magnetic pick up that you stick to the phone. But Jim talks on speaker phone and he just got a different phone - the sound quality is not as good when he uses speaker phone. He said he just keeps the phone by his head when he talks so I don't know if he is lying down or what - but anyway we'll see if we can finally get the questions addressed.

Gee maybe you want to give some evidence? haha. Nice accusations but no evidence!!

semen retention is folk taoism. You might reply -- no it's alchemy or some b.s. NOPE it's folk taoism. Why? If your goal is to "retain semen" then you're not practicing real meditation. haha. The goal is NOT to retain semen. The goal is to not create semen -- to empty the mind so to still the heart. so sublimation and purification or ionization or creating chi energy from jing. See there is jing fluid which is from evil thoughts - so why would you want to retain evil thoughts? It's the evil thoughts that create semen! So you are confused!! Retaining semen is folk Taoism -- a popularized misconception. Pretty ironic. haha. You want to discuss the difference but you already are practicing folk Taoism without knowing it. Probably because you mention steeping yourself first in Western occult - which is fake practices.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

http://www.skepticalscience.com/David-Evans-All-at-Sea-about-Ocean-Warming-and-Sea-Level-Rise.html David Evans: All at Sea about Ocean Warming and Sea Level Rise

The Hansen paper: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1211/1211.4846.pdf http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/earth-insight/2013/jul/10/james-hansen-fossil-fuels-runaway-global-warming?CMP=twt_fd nice comment: