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Mal thanks for making your point - your last comment was definitely cryptic! haha. So Stiggy really does believe in qi energy? I have asked several times and gotten no response from him. I have read Elkin's book on the Australian aborigine shamans. Do you think the skeptics need to be reassured that the aborigine shamans are not fake? I wonder if there are any real shamans left among the aborigines! The West is a culture of rational genocide against real shamans. So why would a shaman want to try to appease the rational genocide people? The shaman wants to hide from the rational genocide people. IN the U.S. it was illegal for Native Americans to practice shamanism after 1887 and until the National Religious Freedom Act was passed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Religious_Freedom_Act 1978!! So until then the shamans had to remain in hiding and I read a biography of one real shaman of the Lakota tradition -- he died in the 1980s. I suppose Adam the Dream Healer could be considered a Native American shaman as he was born with his third eye fully open and he is part Indian.... But otherwise this shamanism is a dying off tradition. Someone posted on my blog recently about how they had traveled China and they were now in India -- the whole time looking for energy masters! The person not only did not find any real energy masters that could heal him but they wanted to return to Chunyi Lin to get another healing! That's how rare real energy masters are. So if someone wants to experience the energy they have to seek it out. It's their own personal choice. I can provide the contact info http://springforestqigong.com has further details. Someone PMd me about getting a phone healing for a family member. So it feels like a laser deep in the heart -- Chunyi Lin's phone healing.

I have yet to hear Stig say this -- I have asked him if this is the case but have only gotten silence! haha. Then he says he wants any qigong master to come do his test. It would be silly if that's how qigong masters work -- the energy works from the inside out. If a person is a qigong master they are swimming in energy blockages - constantly healing people all the time. The first healing Chunyi Lin did in the U.S. was of his friend's cat! The friend was changing so they could go play basketball and Chunyi Lin was at his place and the friend tells Chunyi Lin to wait and that his cat is deaf. So Chunyi Lin says - can I work on your cat? The friend is like whatever -- not knowing what Chunyi Lin is talking about. When the friend finishes changing Chunyi Lin tells him to call the cat's name and the cat can hear. haha. So that's how it is -- Chunyi Lin and Jim Nance only sleep a few hours a night and the rest of the night they sit in full lotus meditation charging up their energy. During the day they are healing people with huge tumors -- shinking them down to next to nothing in one session. I have heard of two such cases recently -- one of them Chunyi and Jim took turns on a man who had a tumor covering his jaw so he could not even talk. So they took turns and in one session the man could talk and the tumor was almost gone. So in traditional qigong culture a student is very lucky if he qualifies to be a real student of the master -- like Jim Nance was with Chunyi Lin. Jim Nance had spent 20 years studying shamanism - a couple years in Africa with traditional shamans -- and elsewhere in the U.S. and Europe and India, etc. So Jim Nance completely devoted himself to training in qigong to become a master. So that's how a person learns about qigong. It would be totally silly for a person to sit and whine and complain and demand for a qigong master to come to them to prove that qigong is real. haha. The whole rational worldview is destroying the planet -- it is delusional -- as Chunyi Lin said he is not trying to convince any skeptics. Chunyi Lin has also said he is willing to be put up to any tests. So Stiggy could certainly email [email protected] Email them Stiggy and send them the information about your test. Who knows - maybe Chunyi Lin will help you out. But I do think the money angle is pretty sketchy since you are relying on other people to pay out for you - and so your standards of what is proof would probably never satisfy those people. A person really does need to experience the energy directly - as this news caster states He actually quit his job after experiencing Chunyi Lin - that's how blown away he is. Now Gary does the video testimonials and also the online podcasts for Chunyi Lin.

Wow Stiggy you're actually serious! I'm sorry. I really could not believe that you are an actual "skeptic" lurking on thetaobums -- home of so many fascinating accounts of real qigong masters! You mention Brisbane. Sounds exotic! haha. I've read a few travel books on Australia but I would have to consult a map. I read a book of a dude who walked across Australia. Another dude biked across Australia. Another was a comedy travel book by a couple Australians. Anyway of course I'm just mentioning a few books -- I've read more of course. haha. So Stiggy -- you really are not interested -- in say the fact that I posted .... oh well again I won't repeat myself as you clearly really are not interested! haha. So you post on thetaobums but don't really want to engage with qigong masters! That's mind-blowing! Anyway I hope that the dude who got the Master Zhang healing will report - update his thread -- on the personal class he will get from Master Zhang tomorrow. Master Zhang is part of a lineage going back directly to Lao Tzu! Ah but the 2000 year old tradition in China is all fake unless it's scientifically proven right? haha. Oh yeah Master Zhang's relative created Tai Chi! haha. So Stiggy - -you teach tai chi and yet you want to ignore Master Zhang? I mean I'm sorry for repeating myself - it's just stunning. http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=339 So there you go Stiggy - another qigong master for you to personally ignore! haha.

You remind me of someone on one of Joe Rogan's youtube channel. I posted that Joe Rogan who is very famous in the martial arts scene and psychedelic drug scene.... I posted that he should check out the qigong masters! Someone responded that obviously I am just talking about magic. I then gave many great details about the qigong masters, books, videos, other websites. The person ignored everything I said - refused to look at the information. Then the person posted a couple vids of fake people getting exposed -- someone doing a magic trick, etc. I said logically just because someone can do a fake trick or get exposed as fake does not mean qigong masters are proven wrong! The person then said I sounded like ... who is that famous Indian dude... oh well... I just kept giving them more qigong information which they continued to NOT consider or comment on. The person said I was a sad person. I said actually the qigong master said I had an "enlightenment experience" and I've had permanent magnetic bliss in my brain since then in 2000. haha. Then person then said they realized I had not been listening to anything they said! Still the person had yet to even consider the qigong master information I was presenting. It was truly amazing! Willful ignorance is very common. My final comment was to check out David Eisenberg, the Harvard medical doctor, author of Encounters with Qi, which details his personal experience of a qigong master demonstrating telekinesis. There's a photo of the telekinesis.

Still no fa jing masters out there in the world? Still waiting. haha. Oh wait "anecdotes" don't count right? No testimonials? So the fact that I posted info about Master Zhang being in NYC and then someone read that information here and being in NYC they went for a Master Zhang healing.... Their report back is not valid -- correct? So they used the internet -- free information - to transform their life! Meanwhile Stiggy is still waiting for some qigong master to meet his personal special needs. haha. No comment is allowed by Stiggy about Master Zhang or any of the numerous real qigong masters available via taobums.... I respect your patience Stiggy! Good luck to you! haha. Willful ignorance always amazes me. Yeah I'm watching Medicine Men Go Wild on netflix - amazing series on indigenous shamanic healing by Western medical doctors - who go and search out the shamans and they try out their medicines!! Hmmm... go for it Stiggy! haha. Episode 2 in Malaysia for the spear piercings.... will celibacy and a special diet enable trance more easily? will find out soon! Nope a week of celibacy and fruit did not really help lessen the pain.... Now they're in Tibet....with the doctors and more piercing trance shamans.... after 15 minutes of silent meditation...

I have no idea what you're talking about! haha. I am still wondering why Stiggy needs to wait for some qigong master to come to him to personally prove to him something? Anyone? Still waiting.... Why doesn't Stiggy just call to get a phone healing! Or call Effie P. Chow. This is not about Chunyi Lin. There are half a dozen real qigong masters readily available. I recommended Master Zhang just a few days ago and PRESTO! Someone goes sees Master Zhang for a healing and posts it on this forum! Electrical shocks, strong magnetic fields, involuntary body movements. So looks like Master Zhang passes the test with ease. You'd think Stiggy would jump on the chance to get a closer look at Master Zhang... but apparently Master Zhang has to meet all of Stiggy's personal qualifications. haha.

Yeah you want to have some "rational" debate about "objective" science! Hilarious!! haha. I have done this with some undergrad atheists about this study - - you can just google it - there's a few articles on their website. The doctors who did the study work at top research institutes - the Mayo Clinic is rated one of the top hospitals in the world - number 2 I think . The U of Minnesota is rated in the top ten research institutes of the U.S. The study was "randomized controlled" which is considered a completely rational methodology. But hey -- if suddenly "normal" science is not "normal" anymore because someone disagrees with the topic of study -- that is confusing form with content. Form decides content -- trumps it.

See the beauty is you are free to think that all you want because that is free speech! For example Chunyi Lin demonstrated his qissage technique at one of his conferences and he asked for volunteers. So this man was sitting next to a friend - and the man was very -- shall we say... overbearing.... and so he gets picked by Chunyi Lin. Chunyi Lin presses this point of the man's back -- and the man collapses, almost fainting, Chunyi Lin is literally holding his body up, the man is sweating profusely, his skin turns white. Chunyi Lin meanwhile is saying with great love and joy -- see how powerful this point is! It's just so awesome! The man returns to his seat and tells the person next to him that his life has been changed and now his countenance his humble and he has a completely different character. Call it whatever you want! haha. Chunyi Lin says in his book how he had to change the 220 voltage of household current levels and how this could normally kill a person but he had to do it to pass his test. His Stiggy saying Chunyi Lin is lying? haha. What does Stiggy think of John Chang? A fake? How about Wang Liping. How about Effie P. Chow - I personally saw her blow the fuse in the room behind us at St. Mary's University in 1995. Ummm. I could go on - but again I find it hilarious on a qigong website that someone is skeptical. I realize Stiggy wants some rational scientific proof of fa jing in controlled circumstances that he sets up. Whatever -- he obviously takes his project very seriously but to me it reminds me of the spoiled boy at the Mall with his mom. I call this "Mall Science" - if it is not a repeatable product off the shelf then it does not objectively exist! haha. Mommy mommy - that's not what I want... and the boy can never get his desires fulfilled. haha. Basically science is not rational at all - it is a religion! Try reading H.M. Collins or Professor David F. Noble or --- boy.. there's so many to choose from... oh yeah Karl Polyani is a great one - all these scholars prove science is not rational.

Stig I think you mean libel -- as I wrote something. Obviously it is a joke but then again - all you have to do is call to get a phone healing to feel the laser love energy! haha. So I do find it very funny. Still good luck waiting for qigong masters to help you out. haha. Seriously man -- -- oh wait - you are serious aren't you? BTW - thanks for replying to me finally Stiggy! Yeah so I guess I'll repeat myself -- oh wait - that would be silly.

My dad really did die of a broken heart. I was surprised when I read his heart blockage. This doc confirms it can happen. He was chain smoking and chain drinking but it was the emotion of a broken heart that was the final cause. Of course no one can prove this but I read his energy. Then when I found his dead body the next morning I was even more surprised by the overwhelming love his heart was emitting -- so I knew his spirit was in a better place. This heart doctor measuring weak electrical fields is very much in tune with quantum coherent biology as the biophoton spirit light of the heart. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho writes on this. So at the end - a person sees something in a second and if the heart is in sync with that one second "beat" then the brain response is amplified. This is the biophoton spirit energy in action -- it is electrical in the body but the vision is light as spirit biophotons and there is a direct eye to heart biophoton connection as the Taoists state. In actuality it is our spirit coming out of our eyes and interacting -- holographically with the rest of the world -- physically, emotionally, etc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kpvj1 Nice embed -- I tried to google it on vimeo - no luck. David Malone.... will watch it.

redrum Joe I feel your pain. I have an uncle who was an engineer for 3M -- and he's a big Michelle Bachmann and Faux news fan.... Anyway so he tells me he doesn't even think global warming is real and also he says he thinks there is no oil crisis. So I know what I'm dealing with -- I know that there's no way I can convince this guy. Also I know that he knows that I'm a raving eco-activist, etc. former Greenpeace worker, etc. So I say to him -- first of all oil comes from algae and guess what? The future of humanity is algae -- whether we make oil from algae or we destroy the environment -- algae will be the foundation for a new environment. Secondly I said - o.k. even if there is an ecological crisis the only answer will be a techno-fix which means the machines will take over and automation is the number one cause of job loss. So I said there's no point in even trying to save the planet because it just means that technology will be in control and humans will lose out anyway. So then my uncle mentions how they just got this new smart meter at their house and then later my aunt complains how they can not adjust their thermostat and that their A.C. goes off and on without their control. My uncle then says -- yep you're right -- the technology is taking over. So Joe you want a "rational" argument but rationalism is a myth! Humans are animals - we're controlled by emotions -- and rationalism means the machines are in control. You are scared of the big government ecofascists like Al Gore making billions off of carbon credits. I personally confronted Al Gore when he was Vice President - with his dozen secret service. I yelled across the room at him - "The blood of the U'wa is on your conscience" and I got pulled over by the cops -- taking my license info but not saying why they pulled me over. haha. I told Al: Everyone knows the CIA is complicit to the drug trade. Al and I have a face to face chat for half an hour, along with my dozen activist friends. We confronted Al about U.S. imperialism. I told Al - his family oil money was about to destroy a protected tribal Amazonian area in Columbia.... I told Al: "Look Al it's all over. There's no point in drilling for more oil." I'm serious - Al looked at me and really listened to me. He took me seriously. That was in 2000 - before Al went on his climate change crusade. http://frenchtribune.com/teneur/1316691-colorado-student-wins-first-prize-growing-oil-algae From one day ago. O.K. so my engineer uncle who claimed there was no oil crisis... he didn't even know that oil comes from algae!! http://www.fastcoexist.com/1680909/now-at-your-local-gas-pump-algae-oil Some algae biofuel is already on the market. But we've used hundreds of millions of years of stored algae -- solar energy -- as oil extraction in the last 100 years or so. It is common sense that we've taken all that solar energy and spewed it back into the atmosphere. So this effect is stronger than the previous effects of the climatic solar-earth cycles based on axial precession (the Earth's backwards wobble) and other solar effects. On the other hand scientifically -- there is a very strong case that humans as a species evolved larger brains for complex social culture which has completely transformed the climate on Earth -- why? Due to a cooling trend on Earth starting two million years ago. http://www.des.ucdavis.edu/faculty/Richerson/Speed.htm redrum

The past couple times I've done a lot of cocoa -- I almost lose the alchemical pill while sleeping -- so I got curious - does chocolate have a lot of zinc? sure enough -- it is listed among the top ten foods for zinc! Because the only other thing that consistently causes me to almost always have a dream ejaculation is beef which is also high in zinc. I mean I almost always wake up from my dream and then stop the ejaculation halfway out the organ and then do kegel to stop it and then I go into full lotus until I feel it go up into my brain.

You'd want to listen to trance music or chanting to create right brain dominance which will then activate your lower body energy via the right side vagus nerve. Left brain dominance won't do this. So keeping the eyes closed is at least a minimum. I just did 12 hours of full lotus at the computer -- watching survivalist shows -- but it doesn't store up energy since the eyes are open. It does clear out blockages though -- so it's not standing but similar. Anyway the goal is a concentrated mind -- one thought -- which then empties out into light energy and that will create the chi energy.

I did a strong dose -- you can read about it here -- http://www.scribd.com/doc/95616218/Alchemy-of-Rainbow-Heart-Music-New scroll down to chapter 11 -- page 594 -- this is my book free download anti-copyright. So a whole chapter on DMT and qigong.

I use full lotus to judge progress. 2 hours of nonstop full lotus with no pain and body filled with electromagnetic energy means the tan tien is pretty well filled up and nirvikalpa samadhi is approaching and shen energy is being created to start immortal breathing. I reached this stage once -- in 2000 -- I would be very surprised to reach it again.

Yeah traditional ayahuasca training is the same as yoga training -- celibacy, away from females, and a serotonin diet and then fasting. It's best to fast at least 24 hours before doing DMT-based plants. Serotonin syndrome is very dangerous but mainly from the MAOI that does with the DMT ingested. So people can and do go into seizure and one person died from ayahuasca - a couple years ago in Peru....

new vid for me. Yeah so it's a Tai Chi demo. Where's Stiggy? haha.

Wait should Stiggy contact Master Zhang to give him $1.5 million or maybe this thread should be disappeared like my thread about Chunyi Lin. haha. There are real qigong masters out there - no matter how often thetaobums mods try to hide the fact. haha. Electric shocks, involuntary movements, whole body feels like a magnet. Fa Jing in action.

you'll just have to keep practicing till you get there. haha.

Yeah I realize a qigong master would have to seek out Stiggy to help him out. haha. Hey anywhere on Australia is a lot closer than the U.S. I realize that until Stig is personally convinced then it is not objectively real. haha. All he has to do is get a Chunyi Lin phone healing from http://springforestqigong.com and then report back on the laser bliss heart energy.

Perspect Biol Med. 2005 Autumn;48(4):516-34. The randomized controlled trial: gold standard, or merely standard? Grossman J, Mackenzie FJ. SourceUnit for History and Philosophy of Science, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia. [email protected] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16227664 It's definitely the "standard" for science -- not everyone thinks it should be called "gold" -- but then science is also up for further discussion. haha.

That's hilarious. Umm -- he already submitted himself to gold standard science research. http://evidencebasedliving.human.cornell.edu/2011/04/randomized-controlled-designs-the-gold-standard-for-knowing-what-works-2/ randomized-controlled-designs-the-gold-standard-for-knowing-what-works-2/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20626055 yep - there's the research. External Qigong for Chronic Pain, Results from a peer-reviewed, randomized, controlled, clinical study Ann Vincent, Brent A. Bauer, et al Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota Jamia Hill, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, Minnesota So external qi has already been proven. Gold standard science! writes lead author Ann Vincent, MD, MBBS, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minnesota.

Go http://qigongmaster.com - Master Zhang. http://thetaobums.com/topic/2396-grandmaster-yuanming-zhang/ wow a 2006 thread of someone who experienced Master Zhang http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/ezine/article.php?article=339 his background -- cool - this is not on his website! http://www.members.tripod.com/hronald/ahommmt/spring.htm Another great testimonial

So the doctor took away one of the blood pressure drugs for my mom - she no longer needs it! I told my mom it is not uncommon for people to have their drugs reduced after qigong healings. She didn't acknowledge it but hey it's happened! haha.