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Oh yeah I get that "mirage like appearance" -- shimmering -- when I feel the energy going out from the pineal gland out through my eyes. My energy has to be built up quite a bit for this but it happens when people around me are sucking up my energy. My eyes will flutter a bit as the energy passes through them and then everything gets this shimmering sensation. http://thetaobums.com/topic/23057-advance-energy-techniques/page__st__144#entry376974 I posted this comment on the "advanced energy" thread but I meant it for this "strong energy" thread - I read Gary Clyman's Qigong Bible and some of his articles, inspired by this thread. Yeah this is the crucial point about the jing energy as the source of power - so that building up the life force energy is the secret. Also when my "jing" energy was activated - the boiling heat -- I was going on the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" which Gary Clyman says is one of this three traditional sources. So that's when I fasted for 8 days on just half a glass of water. I can assure you that -- well I attended the LEvel 3 retreat for Chunyi Lin's http://springforestqigong.com Anyway so after that I was sitting with a friend at the electromagnetic energy shooting out of the middle of my brain was so strong - I was hoping he wouldn't notice. He was about six feet from me and we just talked about stupid stuff but suddenly he goes: "What are you doing to me!" haha. I had that at work too -- strong electromagnetic energy out of the center of my brain and it felt like telepathy -- this female was in the room and across the room like 15 feet. So it was like a spacetime mirage - the shimmering sensation was really strong. I could sense her thoughts it seemed to me --- anyway when her boss came in the room she suddenly recommended that I be promoted to a manager! haha. So anyway then I went to the weekend Guild healing practice session and qigong master Jim Nance asked me to share my experiences of my training. This old lady then asked me to heal her. I didn't touch her but I forgot not to pull energy blockages out of the center of her skull. Without touching her -- she was sitting and I was standing to her side. I felt this heavy electromagnetic blob that I pulled out of the top center of her skull and right when I felt it she immediately burst into bawling. She kept bawling for at least 15 minutes - even after she had walked down to the next floor. We were all leaving - I saw my friend that I mentioned above -- I said: "You're not going to believe what just happened." then the old lady was walking towards us with someone having their arm around her to comfort her and she was still bawling!! Anyway I healed my mom of a serious leg condition so she no longer needed surgical stockings. But I also exorcised her and she screamed at me bloody murder until I started shoving food in my mouth. haha. So she called me two weeks later asking for another healing but saying the last one was the difference between night and day. I said I had stopped training because she had screamed at me so bad -- I had been fasting for 8 days so my energy was very sensitive. She then just said I was lazy. haha. Anyway so what really did it was when I sat in full lotus and then the room was spinning around me! I read that this meant my spirit was leaving my body before my chi energy was built up enough. I had entered into "immortal breathing" but I didn't understand that it is the spirit shen that is pushed by the chi -- with no physical breathing - so it is the REAL meditation of samadhi. So I stopped practicing at this point -- also when this female saw me in a restaurant I could sense she had an orgasm! And I was in denial about this until years later when this was confirmed and then I just did tantra that Gary describes after that. So then I finally got my first phone healing from Chunyi Lin -- it feels like a laser in the heart! I asked Chunyi Lin if it was o.k. that the females have bliss when I "flex" my pineal gland. Then I "flexed" it for him while I was on the phone so he would know. He said it was great that female have bliss from when I do that but my energy transmissions would always be weak unless I stored up my energy in my lower tan tien. So after that I stopped "flexing" my pineal gland - and I've been working on storing up my energy in the lower tan tien -- but what Gary says about needing personal space for training and avoiding females -- this is all too true! I have people sucking up my energy all the time -- that's fine because they need the electromagnetic energy as they don't know how to build it up themselves. But still I am not building up my energy unless I had a more focused time to train. I will work on this -- anyway that's all for now. Cool thread about Waysun Liao - I didn't realize Chicago had such a great Tai Chi master. I mean I know Gary was getting transmissions but I didn't reailze -- and Gary kept up his practice from the transmissions - so that is awesome. Yeah I've had some amazing "emotional liposuction" experiences -- at a distance -- people -- total strangers -- thanking me! haha. But also I am super sensitive to food or else it "goes to my head." -- so the diet and emotions are very closely connected - but I need food to build up my jing energy. So I am still working on this but now that I'm no longer "flexing" my pineal gland it is easier to purify the energy before it is transmitted out of me. Anyway all the best,

Hi I like to sit in full lotus for third eye fun.

I can attest to this -- back around 2003 -- I was sitting in this little empty mall near my old workplace. Along comes Patrick! We said hi and had a little "mundane" conversation. While he's standing in front of me my body is full of strong heat in the heart -- it was a heart blast of heat from Patrick's heart! haha. I wanted to say: HEY! But anyway -- I wasn't that surprised because a couple years earlier around 2000 Patrick was leading one of the weekend SFQ Guild meetings at St. Thomas University. So it was one of his first times at least that I remember. Anyway so it's an auditorium room with those steep rows down to the lecture area where Patrick is at. I can see this huge massive yellow aura shooting out of Patrick's head -- yellow light going up about 10 feet. haha. The only other person I saw doing that was Chunyi Lin in the same place. But then Patrick said how Chunyi Lin's energy was there with us.... Glad to see this thread getting kudos on SFQ.

Regarding Gary Clyman mentioned in this thread - I want to thank people for inspiring me to read his Qigong Bible on his website -- free pdf -- very excellent information. I have a few points of contention but first of all the good things. Gary states that Mantak Chia is incorrect to teach males to fondle themselves and I completely agree. Gary says that if this fondling is going on then it's "too late" because it brings the energy down to create ejaculation which is against the whole point of building up the energy. So this is excellent that Gary has pointed out this major error of Mantak Chia but I would say Gary does not go far enough. Gary states he studied the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" as one of his three main traditional energy training texts. But then Gary states that he encourages the watching of porn to activate the sex centers -- while doing his exercises (certain exercises) -- but the crucial point for Gary is that the energy must avoid the reproductive organs -- so the energy needs to be circulated from the lower tan tien then directly to the back. O.K. I'm leaving out details but my point is that this goes against the teachings of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. If you really study Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality it calls this "heart's false fire" -- http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-sufi-way-of-blame-heyoka-tricksters.html I blogged on this for further details. So I don't blame Gary for this erroneous teaching -- I mean this is why real energy masters are so rare - with the third eye fully open! For the really advanced levels there can be no thoughts about sex. On the other hand -- for me any subconscious thoughts about sex need to be consciously sublimated and "burned" -- ionized - and this is why there is no "blue balls" as Westerners erroneously think. There has to be a purification of the energy and to create real chi energy this requires no thoughts about sex. So this is why real qi - the prenatal chi energy -- this is why it's so rare. Because the modern world is completely bombarded by the fixation of male ejaculation, the exact opposite of real energy training. So I applaud Gary for not only being completely celibate for his first four years of training but also avoiding contact with females. Yeah I know it sounds harsh and it is harsh -- again this is why advanced energy levels are so rare. So Gary goes on to say how in Taoist Sex the male takes in the female energy while giving back the male energy -- this creates more internal orgasms for both the male and female -- but no ejaculations. Gary even states that this does not require physical contact! Indeed this is the level I achieved but people don't believe it. Yes energy is taken in from the females but again it is transmitted back to the females as male electromagnetic energy. Also females can do this -- and anyway this is the real trick of energy training. I also applaud Gary for emphasizing the crucial need of "personal space" for successful energy training and how this is often lacking in the West - people do not value their "selves" over their "environment" as Gary describes. This is so true!! Even qigong master Yan Xin gives the details on this as I have blogged on - http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2012/10/maintaining-state-of-listening-but-not.html So there requires protection of self energy for successful energy training and of course this ties directly into the sex energy and how it's exchanged through interpersonal relations. So then Gary says that an ejaculation is about 6 days of full meals to recharge that energy for the male. So anyway Gary even states how that if there has been retention for a long time then if there is ejaculation this clears out the toxins and also creates "more space" to build up more jing energy. Now this is where I have to disagree with Gary. I mean -- YES -- again it is very difficult to advance in the training precisely because you store the chi energy (or call it jing) in the lower tan tien where it can easily be deconverted into ejaculation due to various reasons. For example Gary states how having sex during the female's menstruation means her temperature is higher internally and so it's too difficult for the male not to ejaculate. Well this same problem arises just from sleeping with too many covers! Or sleeping on the stomach, etc. So preparing for sleeping means turning all the sex and food energy into jing energy or chi energy. Gary's focus on the lower tan tien as a pressure boiler -- relying on flexing the anal sphincter and the kegel muscle to stop urination - and then Gary stating how when the pressure builds up the released "steam" is the jing energy that then circulates into the microcosmic orbit. This is excellent training. Gary's point that the difference between Zen meditation and qigong is that qigong uses mind intention to direct the energy while in Zen the energy just flows on its own - again this is an excellent point that Yan Xin also emphasizes. So the energy is "bidirectional" and so when a person goes into the Emptiness this creates energy by changing the direction of the "extra" blocked or negative lower emotional energy. But that changed direction energy needs to be stored or else it gets dissipated back into the Emptiness. Well so the energy dynamics are constantly flowing like this and as Yan Xin emphasizes the practice is actually subconscious. So the intention is bidirectional - if there is an error then the energy can be emptied out again. But for the really advanced training there needs to be retreat -- I recently asked qigong master Chunyi Lin "how many times he had done the 28 day full lotus fast cave meditation." He said: "Not many." haha. He said actually he did one retreat that was 2 months non-stop no sleep full lotus fasting in the cave. So I think that was when he had the three bottles of water and three apples. Anyway then another time he did the 28 day no sleep full lotus fast meditation in the cave. He said mainly he did lots of 7 day full lotus nonstop fast no sleep meditations and three days. Chunyi Lin then said he wants to do a full year of nonstop full lotus no sleep fast meditation. Anyway we do the best we can in the environment we train in which has to be considered a "tantric" environment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URNqA5fT2Sg&feature=related I had my first female internal orgasm in 2007. Well it was the infamous psychic mutual climax while in full lotus... Anyway after that was day after day of female mutual climaxes. A month and half ago I was told to stop flexing my pineal gland and thereby stopping the chi transmissions to give female orgasms. Still I have female orgasms during my full lotus meditation every day -- usually at 1 1/2 hour. This is a taboo subject for male practitioners -- the female internal orgasm. Nevertheless it is essential to create the chi energy that there be no thoughts of lust -- or else the semen does not get purified into chi energy. The heart must be empty. Bill Bodri and Master Nan, Huai-chin state that a person can take in someone else's jing sex female energy and then transmit back chi energy but this only takes meditation to the upper realm of desire and the lower realm of form samadhi -- not the formless realm of samadhi. Still the book "Taoist Yoga" states that the male reproductive organ will be full and this is the generative force manifesting -- but there should not be lustful thoughts. Otherwise the sex energy is not turned into chi energy. I found that even without nocturnal emissions and with my continued female internal orgasms that my chi energy still goes into females around me -- just not directly by flexing my third eye. I no longer give females orgasms -- I used to give them a lot and this would open up the heart chakra as the psychic mutual climaxes. but still the chi energy is still orgasmic. So it's more like a subtle full body orgasmic feeling. In Taoism it's taught that the female are yang internally and that yang chi comes from the red dragon blood -- so also the focus of chi creation is between the breasts. the male is yin internally and the yin chi comes from the white tiger semen but this semen must be stored up and purified by stilling the heart from lustful thoughts. Mahiri Lahasaya said that even he still had lustful thoughts. Also in the same Kriya Yoga tradition the Taoist teacher Michael Winn reports how another master in his old age relied on having young females around him to restore his jing energy. So again this is a deep secret in the qigong practice. How much do Taoist qigong masters rely on taking in female jing energy to increase their chi transmissions? As Bodri and Nan state this is a limited practice. Nevertheless if advanced yogis rely on it then maybe it is limited for the importance of transforming the body's energy. The body's energy is no less important than the mind and spirit energy -- the three are interwoven both in Ch'an Buddhism and in Taoism. So when I sit in full lotus I still take in jing energy from around me and I transform it -- only I no longer "flex my pineal gland" to transmit it back. Still the energy does get transmitted and the chi energy is orgasmic -- but the transmission is not of the same intensity. From my book at http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com Michael Winn, “The Quest for Spiritual Orgasm: Daoist and Tantric Sexual Cultivation in the West,” Universal Healing Tao, 2002 Winn goes on to describe how he later developed the ability to have subtle body sex with his female partner – without any physical touch – and then later it developed as “astral sex” done at great physical distances from each other. I then corresponded with physiologist Robert Sapolsky at Stanford. He had documented that when male primates ejaculate externally it is a trigger that switches on their stress sympathetic nervous system. His discovery is the crucial secret to tantra so it's important to reference his work: 572 Komisaruk BR, Whipple B, Crawford A, Liu WC, Kalnin A, & Mosier K (2004). Brain activation during vaginocervical self-stimulation and orgasm in women with complete spinal cord injury: fMRI evidence of mediation by the vagus nerves. Brain research, 1024 (1-2), 77-88 573 Robert Sapolsky, Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers (Holt Paperbacks, 2004), p. 124. The real alchemical training from Master Nan, Huai-chin: Bill Bodri, “A Little About Sexual Tantra …” http://Meditationexpert.com

Yeah the water vapor component is fascinating: But not that significant: But actually I got Al Gore going on his climate change fixation big time:

haha Mark -- yeah reading energy online while in full lotus is funny sometimes. I sit in full lotus most of the day and half the time I forget I'm in full lotus. haha. It's an interesting point about math -- I came across a linguistics book with a forward by Chomsky -- it was a new recent book about the part of the brain that math uses as a language -- arguing that mathematical thinking was kind of some original language before words... But musicians definitely have larger corpus callosums.... Oh yeah Mark -- I should mention that sometimes the energy in a comment on thetaobums is so bad that I have to sit in full lotus for at least an hour to counteract it -- sublimate the energy back from the lower chakra blockage. It would be pointless to single any one out as there is almost always one person on some site that has this type of lower body blockage. haha. I just avoid reading their posts as much as possible but it still means the energy is out there circulating -- so the full lotus is practiced pre-emptively to counteract this lower chakra blockage energy.

http://www.nanhuaijin.org/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=4 Master Nan, Huai-chin in full lotus.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/09/what-the-things-you-see-when-you-close-your-eyes-and-rub-them-are-called/ Sounds like some form of phosphenes. I was practicing the "quick fire" candle meditation the past couple days -- actually I was staring into a fireplace fire. haha. Then when I walked in the dark I noticed all these bright white lights -- it was just like being in bright sunlight and then you get the after effect for a while. but then when I was falling asleep and then the third eye energy opened up and I saw a nice violet light which I hadn't seen in awhile. It's because I had been practicing in solitude for a couple days so I was able to build up my chi energy and the violet light is indication that the spirit light is being activated -- the serotonin spectrogram in the brain is blue. So I think that is part of it. Anyway when I saw the spirits -- that was very amazing -- they were just as big as humans and shaped like humans but only bright yellow and floating through the air. but that was after I also saw Chunyi Lin make similar human shaped forms come out of his head while he was in full lotus. As I had mentioned I had just read the biography of master monk Mun in Thailand and he mentioned how when he gave his meditation lectures then the dead spirits would visit him regularly -- so otherwise when Chunyi Lin shared what was happening I don't know what I would have thought! haha. I mean I just read about it but since then I've never seen that mentioned of the same phenomenon -- of a meditation master giving a talk and then the dead spirits coming to him to hear the talk and get help, etc.

Yeah the full lotus is a difficult practice. haha. Chunyi Lin said to sit in full lotus two hours non-stop a day to train to be an energy master. Chunyi Lin also said if you want to tell if someone is a real energy master just see how long they can sit in full lotus in ease. haha. That's what is great about the full lotus -- so much of the New Age scene is based on lots of talk -- so I just sit in full lotus. Simple yet powerful. It can't be faked. You can't fake the full lotus. I wrote an article on that -- http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/162-You-Cant-Fake-The-Full-lotus!-Testimony-of-a-qigong-practitioner-in-the-context-of-parapsychology.html back around the same time as the "O at a D" discovery. Why? I hope people get my pun -- females faking orgasms. haha. But you can't fake the full lotus! haha. You Can’t Fake The Full-lotus! Testimony of a qigong practitioner in the context of parapsychology by drew hempel, MA

Seth -- the "O at a D" is not dependent on visual information as it is through the pineal gland energy but you want "visual" proof. haha. I find that very hilarious because the energy comes from the consciousness that is formless -- the consciousness that creates light. It's not left-brain consciousness based on words. So it's like the left-brain will make up lies about reality -- this has been proven with split brain patients. The left brain reads words so if shown an image and it can not put it into words the left brain will lie. But the right brain can not use words. So the right brain remains silent and listens but then can create and get the meaning of images. But the pineal gland is the source for the right and left brain and yet the consciousness that the pineal gland connects with is formless - it can only be logically inferred. Logically we can infer consciousness and from consciousness arises this energy that is constantly transforming. So logically consciousness is not based on proof - it is based on logical inference. It is the source of the I-thought and there is no object nor subject that the I-thought refers to. Dan Zahavi's work focuses on this in phemonological philosophy but, of course, it is also the focus of nondual philosophy, etc. So you say that "presumably" some female did not see me but this energy is experienced through proprioception -- it is called the "sixth sense" through the inner ear connection to the pineal gland. So it's based on feeling first that is translated into vision. Sometimes females see me or they don't. Sometimes I don't see them. The energy flows on its own though. haha. The same applies with males and animals and plants and even rocks and spirits. The same also applies with the future and past and space as well. It is holographic -- interwoven and holistic and impersonal. So the pineal gland transduces signals whether my left brain wants it to or not -- there is no turning back. haha. Yeah sitting in full lotus in public is wild -- and it was a fascinating experiment for four years. Proof is the realm of science which is based on the assumption that infinity can be contained using geometry -- the "power axiom set" is the first proof using "proof by contradiction" but it is incorrect logic about infinity! My book goes into this in great detail -- for example the philosophy paper by Professors Hugly and Sayward -- "Did the Greeks Discover the Irrational?" 1999 Spring journal of philosophy. Their answer: NO. haha. By irrational they mean the square root of two -- the most commonly accepted proof!! But NO they say! Why - because geometric length is not arithmetic distance. I knew this when I took my "enriched geometry" course in high school so I only got a C. haha. I was secretly against the Pythagorean Theorem -- why? because of my music training I knew that Pythagorean nonwestern harmonics had the correct logic. haha. O.K. so the foundation of science is not a proof -- it is illogical. The mathematicians really know this. http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com to download my book for free details. haha. Of course this distinction in India between shakti and siddhi is a big deal -- if it is shakti then there is no individual ego awareness of the miraculous paranormal spiritual powers that manifest. the powers come from the consciousness itself that is impersonal. If it is siddhi then it is considered ego based and wrong to practice it. On the other hand in Mahayana Buddhism Master Nan, Huai-chin states that unless there is individual awareness of the powers then it is not supreme complete enlightenment -- so therefore Ramana Maharshi was not truly enlightened, etc. Then Aurobindo wrote of this paradox between the personal awareness and consciousness and the powers that arise very interestingly. He stated it is just like quantum physics - where it is only known after the fact and so there is always this dynamic of energy going on between individual awareness, the energy manifestation and then the impersonal consciousness that created the energy manifestation -- and this dynamic is based on complementary opposites - or what Gurjdieff called the Law of Three. Gurdjieff said that to truly understand the Law of Three is the real secret to philosophy -- yet the West is stuck in dualistic thinking. haha. True/false Proof/Fake. Have fun with the energy that transcends this dualism! So that's Gurdjieff on the Law of Three. Like I said -- when I did my intensive training my chi energy was much stronger -- for example I pulled someone's spirit right out of the top of their head -- by accident! This was without touching them! The person bawled immediately nonstop. This was at the spring forest qigong guild meeting healing practice session -- lots of people were there. haha. So as Chunyi Lin told me when I flex my pineal gland without storing the chi energy then the transmissions are weak -- yes they are! So he told me to store up my chi energy instead. But the above happened -- pulling someone's spirit right out of the top of their skull. Now I suppose Seth you can ask me to prove this happened! haha. Well we could just call the SFQ center to talk to Jim Nance who was at that guild meeting and he introduced me to everyone, explaining my qi energy and that I had just finished a week long qi energy fast, etc. haha. He was there and others were comforting the old lady after I pulled her spirit out of her body. So I'm sure someone else knows about it. Even my college friend was there and he saw the lady being comforted by another person as she was still bawling -- about 10 minutes after it happened. Yeah so it's like medical reports -- the claims of Chunyi Lin's long distance qi transmission healing - the skeptics have dismissed the "gold standard" research because it's based on the testimonies of those healed of chronic pain! So the Mayo clinic medical doctor is quoted saying this is amazing since they had chronic pain for over 5 years untreatable by Western science. Yet the skeptics refuse this because they don't consider it real proof. haha. http://anamericanatheist.org/2011/10/29/investigating-woo-spring-forest-qigong-research/

Yeah Gurdjieff did demonstrate the full lotus -- I think that's recorded in "In Search of the Miraculous" -- so he considered it a body position. haha. Mantak Chia does not even teach full lotus -- but then Sean Denty wrote here that Mantak Chia does not even see the light when he does his Dark Cave meditations. I mean seeing the light externally. I doubt Gurjdjieff was against sitting in full lotus for long periods of time as that is the standard advanced training in Tibet -- as was practiced by Milarepa. But what Gurdjieff taught Westerners was not the advanced energy transmissions. Hey Jetsun do you have any other writing on Gurdjieff doing energy transmissions? I know he shot out the blue light to recharge his student -- Peter I think. I'm not sure if it was Peter who saw the blue light or someone else was in the room with Peter.... But that's the only other energy transmission healing that I know of about Gurdjieff. No healing stories or anything -- still amazing how much credence he is given -- but then he did write a long fictional spiritual book. haha. I mean his harmonics alchemy is directly the same as "Taoist Yoga" as my article details -- so his teaching is excellent -- and it's also the same as the Pythagorean harmonics.

More from this thread -- Nov. 2007: http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5477

O.K. here is my first report of it -- or second -- online. So I recorded it as it was happening. this is from Feb. of 2008: http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3782

O.K. here's the full quote of the "O at a D" -- the only instance I have found of it reported in writing -- page 188, God is My Adventure by Rom Landau -- they are speaking about Gurdjieff:

Yeah it's kind of strange that Seth didn't mention Shantam Nityama and yet he asked me if there is one teacher who teaches the "O at a D." haha. So Seth did you watch the quicktime video of Shantam Nityama bringing females to orgasm at a distance? haha. I mean is that video not proof enough for you? As for "teaching materials" I did mention how Bodri and Nan discuss this in detail -- saying how that it is definitely a practice to take in female jing energy and to transmit chi energy back at the females. I stated how Bodri and Nan then state this is limited to emptying out of the realm of desire and getting to the lower level of the realm of form but it doesn't get to the realm of the formless. So this is discussed in the book "Measuring Meditation" -- their 900 page plus tome. Sorry that I can't quote from that for you. haha. But I do highly recommend the book. Personally I am not trying to prove anything -- I am just reporting my experiences and then I am doing research and also getting critical feedback. So for example when I posted about Chunyi Lin on theparacast -- the "gold standard" for paranormal research -- there was just mainly denial and anger and disbelief -- and all sorts of ad hominems. haha. I pointed out the randomized controlled research proving qi external emissions doing healing -- through the Mayo Clinic research. In fact "randomized controlled" is also called "gold standard" -- but this wasn't good enough for theparacast and the thread was shut down claiming I was "pandering." Pandering! haha. If you look up pandering - kind of like harlot -- it's old meaning is to focus on people's lowest desires in order to try to sell something. It is ironic that qigong relies on celibacy by males for it to truly be powerful -- at least long periods of celibacy like three months. If you go by the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" then it requires total celibacy -- and Master Nan, Huai-chin says the same. NOt just celibacy of the body but also of the mind. haha. So yeah Nan and Bodri acknowledge this phenomenon but also give its limitations -- and I truly appreciate Nan and Bodri for doing this. Chunyi Lin also acknowledged it and pointed out its limitations to me. So Chunyi Lin didn't say that I was not able to do this and he should know. haha. But then because of Chunyi Lin I also do not do this anymore. But the skeptics are not satisified with John Chang's video -- since it can be faked. Nityama's vid could be faked -- but I know it isn't. haha. http://www.nityama.com/blog/table-sessions.html There's the videos of the O at a Ds in action.

Jetsun -- did you see the quote I posted about Gurdjieff doing the "O at a D" -- it's from Rom Landau's God is My Adventure as quoted by Colin Wilson in the Occult. Do you have any quote about Gurdjieff being against sitting in one position or using a single technique for too long? haha. I mean apparently there is a disconnect here being "teaching materials" i.e. writing and actual practice. haha. The followers of Gurdjieff are real big on discussing his writings, etc. but I don't remember Gurdjieff being against sitting in full lotus for a long time. Here's what Master Nan, Huai-chin says: Master Nan, Huai-chin, Working Toward Enlightenment: The cultivation of practice (Red Wheel/Weiser, 1993), pp. 128, 175.

More of the mysteries of the female orgasm -- the first MRI of it: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2011/11/18/brain-imaging-captures-female-orgasm-in-action/ the female orgasm is more of a trance than for males and it turns off the emotional centers http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=48747

Wow Seth -- glad you are chiming in again -- actually I haven't talk about Gurdjieff's enneagram -- I might have mentioned it in passing -- but not that I recall. Since you have brought it up then let's talk about it! haha. Gurdjieff's enneagram is actually derived from a repeating decimal division that is given at the very end of the book "In Search of the Miraculous." Now my big point about Gurdjieff is that Westerners have not figured out he was actually teaching the secret of complementary opposites -- yin and yang resonance. The enneagram is derived from "divide and average" mathematics, not complementary opposite mathematics -- so the use of the enneagram is largely a misnomer to me. It has been misunderstood -- whereas the real importance of the number nine (of the nine points of the enneagram) is from the Law of Three as complementary opposites. So as I mentioned Gurdjieff's alchemy of harmonics is based on the ratio 2:3 which is also yang in Taoism and this is from the Pythagorean Tetrad of 1:2:3:4 -- but the crucial point of Pythagoras is that "One" is not a number. No ONE hears the sound. haha. The source of the I-thought in Self-Remembering is impersonal. If we can self-remember then we are resonating with the female formless awareness. So this is the case with the "O at a D" as well -- the energy is from the impersonal formless awareness. I just sit in full lotus and the energy flows on its own. I did the "O at a D" by "flexing the pineal gland" but Gurdjieff did the "O at a D" also -- as I mentioned -- it is the first time I finally encountered a teacher describing this phenomenon. Actually it is Colin Wilson in the Occult who says that Aleister Crowley could not do this and that Gurdjieff considered Crowley a big fake. So yeah it is unfortunate that the Western modern spiritual scene is so shall we say -- under-represented -- in terms of spiritual energy. haha. Yeah it's page 524 of the Occult -- you can search it on Amazon.com -- O.K. so that was an American woman novelist who sat next to Gurdjieff in a restaurant. Of course the book God is My Adventure gives the original description at length -- so I found Rom Landau's book and I read that description as well. Maybe it's online somewhere for further clarification. But actually I just sit in full lotus and I read -- read one scholarly book a day -- and then the O at a D thing was a right-brain thing. It was actually a pineal gland thing but through the right brain energy. The right side of my neck pulsates -- at first - then it transfers to the left side and then more in the central channel as the jing energy is converted more to chi energy through more and more mutual orgasms at a distance. So to give you an example like I said I was sitting in full lotus at work and everywhere else as preemptive defense because I kept getting hit on so badly which was too bizarre to me. So I wanted to make sure I was sublimating my sex energy. Anyway after awhile at work a few of the co-workers then consciously relied on me "flexing my pineal gland" at them. I mean they were literally say they needed a "hit of energy" to boost them up since they were too stressed out or burned out from work. I worked in full lotus and I had a different job than them. So yeah I did have conscious energy transmissions -- but those were with males. Because obviously having an orgasm in public from another female -- as I said -- it is a dynamic of body language with visual display behavior. At first I was surprised at the level of visual display behavior as I had never seen this before. The most blatant would have been when a female started giving me lap dances when I was sitting in full lotus on a chair on the sidewalk -- in front of a coffeehouse. So she was homeless - Native American -- anyway I figured -- hey if she wants to give me lap dances then I am all for females being liberated. haha. Then she said to me over and over "do you know what you're doing to me?" I just smiled back at her. So also when I did have conscious transmissions with my male coworkers -- they would even ask me for a charge up -- but the deal is they understood that I can not talk when I am transmitting the energy! haha. It is right-brain dominant during the transmission via the pineal gland. So I had one -- actually a couple coworkers -- who were close friends and they always had to relearn this secret of silent transmission. It is like the modern mind is brainwashed due to left brain dominance and what Gurdjieff calls the Kundabuffer -- the knot in the lower small of the back. So the full lotus opens up that knot so the energy can open up the pineal gland to make the chi energy. O.K. so my coworkers knew I could transmit energy into them because they remembered it and they would ask me for another transmission -- but at first they wanted to "talk" about energy. haha. So at first I would oblige them but then I would have to pause while I was talking so I could then "flex" my pineal gland. When I "flex" my pineal gland then immediately my neck starts pulsating as it pulls up the lower body energy that is then transduced by the pineal gland into chi energy. Also I could show people this -- I would "flex" my pineal gland and my neck starts pulsating and people go -- weird. How do you do that? But not really understanding what is going on. haha. O.K. so it is a trance transmission in silence -- the energy will also flow on its own. So the chi energy will build up in the brain but then it can be "sucked up" by those who need it around me. At that point my neck would start pulsating on its own and the energy would be transmitted to an unknown source! Maybe a female sitting behind me, etc. The pineal gland can read -- transduce -- the lower emotional blockages around me -- so as I've described - if the liver gets hot and tingling then someone nearby has a liver blockage -- or sadness is a lung blockage and if the sex center gets activated then it is a sex blockage -- and then to what intensity determines if they are a perv or a number 2 person who just needs to work on sublimating the sex energy more. haha. Now this is low level stuff compared to the level of qi energy healing I had before when I did my intensive training. So when I got the phone healing from Chunyi Lin I then "flexed" my pineal gland on the phone with him and I told him that I sit in full lotus all the time and I said when I "flex" my pineal gland then it gives females bliss from the energy transmitted. I asked him if that was o.k. and he said that was fine but that until I started storing the energy in my lower tan tien then the transmissions would be weak. So I knew they -- the "O at a Ds" were weak - it doesn't take much chi to trigger an orgasm. haha. But the thing is that the jing energy that I was sublimating to transmit as chi -- I was not purifying the jing energy first. So when the pineal gland transduces the jing into chi the skull the leaches and off-gasses the lower body anaerobic bacteria that is transduced along with the lower body serotonin. In other words it creates a crap smell out of the skull! So then I would constantly have to take antiseptics or try to fast -- not eat food and just live off taking in the jing energy around me. So I had to quit my job because of this -- I was smelling like crap all the time, etc. So the transmission works but it is a big mess - it is dirty work. haha. It can heal low emotional blockages for Number 2 people -- which is most people (again based on Gurdjieff's system which appears to be based on Mahayana eight levels of consciousness as he has 1 to 8 numbers). So then based on what Chunyi Lin told me I immediately stopped "flexing my pineal gland" and then soon after the females I was living with -- I no longer healed their morning coughs and so their morning coughs extending later into the day and they got sick and they were crabby, etc. But then instead of transmitting the energy "bottom up" as it were -- there has been more of a "top down" transmission based on sublimation of the energy -- so that after the kidney energy is sublimated then the liver energy has to be sublimated to open up the heart energy. Anyway it is messy to put into words -- but essentially the energy does flow on its own. Even now if I don't "flex" my pineal gland there is still taking in of jing energy around me and this will get turned by the full lotus into chi energy -- the jing energy is taken in through the perineum. The chi energy still builds up in the pineal gland and it still dissipates. So the process is just not as direct and intense as I am no longer "flexing" the pineal gland. It was as if "flexing" was a means of relieving the chi as it built up in the pineal gland -- but I haven't done that now for a month and a half. As soon as I stopped then the pineal gland chi energy got much stronger and I also focused on storing it more in the lower tan tien -- but it still is transmitted indirectly when it's needed. haha. So there was significantly less crap smell since I was no long off-gassing the bad jing energy as it transduced into chi while being transmitted by the pineal gland. The process is much more internal then external since it is low level chi energy and transforms the low emotional superficial blockages -- as was asked of me on this thread -- don't the females just have their orgasms internally without the moaning and arching of the back, etc? Yes -- most of the time that is true. After the orgasms build up though there is inevitably this release of stress expressed through the body. But if the orgasms are just internal and not shown visually by the female - the thing is that I have an internal orgasm at the same time and also I don't have to show it visually. haha. So call it telepathy if you want. Except that again there is often visual display behavior by the females as well - but it is not necessary. It is much more a feeling -- the energy can go through walls and ceilings, etc. Sometimes there is the moaning sounds -- so it varies. I should add that the female voice is the main means to transmit the female jing energy back to me -- so this is just like the Bushmen culture where the females sing all night to activate the male N/om energy -- the males state it is the females the provide the males the N/om energy. The book "Taoist Yoga" states that it is the voice that transmits the jing energy. So I listen and take in the jing energy and then transmit it back as chi energy. But the listening is more like proprioception listening through the inner ear - it is this process exactly. As I detail in my book -- the technology has been proven as an inner ear technology to "see" with 360 degrees and transmit electromagnetic energy, etc. It's call the BrainPort. So this process is actually dirty and low level and the only reason I discovered it by accident is because I was sitting in full lotus in public since I kept getting hit on so badly -- because as I built up my chi energy from practice people around me were going out of control. Again I was being hit on - very dramatically. So I just started sitting in full lotus in public and then the psychic mutual climax happened. So then I tested out to confirm it really had happened. After that I just kept sitting in full lotus in public and the "O at a Ds" just kept happening. But the whole time I was reading a book -- one book a day -- and I then documented by reading online. So the "O at a Ds" worked synergistically with my left-brain - because I was having internal orgasms all day I was able to relieve all the stress of day to day survival living -- and I was living a very survival lifestyle. I was biking ten miles a day all year including the severe winters in Minnesota -- and I was dumpster diving for food, etc. haha. I could not talk to people much at all during these four years - again because the process also off-gasses all the anaerobic bacteria of the lower body. haha.

More on bonobos being peaceful - it's proven in the genes! http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-inner-bonobo/201105/sperm-competition-could-be-the-key-the-peaceful-bonobo-0

yeah on cooperation as being the dominant form in ecology -- as was argued by Proudhon -- check out Lynn Margulis on symbiosis. She just passed on but she did amazing work that remained controversial - arguing mutualism was the main force in evolution -- not competition.

Well you can always google if you want to find something out. haha. Hilarious. O.K. http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=62 Which says the study is correlative and not necessarily causative... so it's your call! haha. Don't know many celibate scientists myself though or male scientists who have internal climaxes. haha. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldness The other factor though is the stress sympathetic nervous system trigger from the external ejaculation -- http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=614 So this creates cortisol and then it depends on your age, diet, other stress levels, etc. or else there is adrenal fatigue and lower levels of zinc and magnesium, etc. causing hair loss. http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t5240-ejaculation-and-cortisol

Yeah the key difference is that I'm talking about the cervix vagus nerve climax. I first discovered this because my neck kept pulsating and I was wondering what it was and I realized that it was the vagus nerve. haha. Then I saw a female's neck pulsating the same way when she was pumping her legs masturbating. haha. So I think analyzing male-female sex relations is different because it's still based on the external ejaculation which -- if you read the quote from Stanford physiology professor Robert Sapolsky in my OP -- the external ejaculation triggers the stress sympathetic nervous system. So my argument is that the male external ejaculation completely limits the female-male sex relation. It's actually the electromagnetic chi energy that causes the female vagus nerve climax. The male stays in the parasympathetic relaxation nervous system right until the trigger of external ejaculation which switches his system to the stress sympathetic nervous system. So that's why the male has to sleep afterwards and external ejaculation is also now proven to cause hair loss. haha. So then the male needs another hit because his external ejaculation caused a low -- and the next hit causes a worse low -- and then it just gets worse and worse and next thing you know the male is used up and the relationship is over, etc. So that kind of sex cycle is the real problem imo. Whereas the mutual internal climaxes build up to increase the electromagnetic chi energy -- the article by Bodri on tantra is definitely worth reading if people haven't seen it. http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation-techniques/m_sexual_tantra.html So I still have internal orgasms from sitting in full lotus -- it kicks in at 1 1/2 hour of meditation. I no longer "flex my pineal gland" so that the chi energy does not transmit so easily into females but still the chi energy gets dissipated, etc. I also still take in jing energy and this also can cause internal climaxes while in full lotus. It's not the same as "O at a Ds" -- it's just less intense and less direct.