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Yeah that's why the "small universe" or microcosmic orbit is the foundational practice -- I used the practice tape -- now sold as a c.d. for $11 -- Level one sitting meditation -- which has the 1/2 small universe track: http://www.springforestqigong.com/instructional_tools.htm But then when the macrocosmic orbit state is reached the cycling of energy goes on outside the body as well. So then there's retreats to further build up the energy. At first the person needs 3 months with no external fluid emissions -- to build up the jing energy to create enough chi to open up the third eye. Then there's the week long fasting for the final breakthrough to "lay the foundation" -- or open up the third eye -- this is called "achievement of cessation" in Theravada Buddhism -- the week of just meditation -- no food, next to no water. After that traditionally the person would then work on the other two "kayas" -- in solitude in a cave -- but it's not necessary -- you can also do healing in the mundane world. Healing does not accumulate the energy in the lower tan tien but it heals others while also maintaining your own health -- as the energy just cycles impersonally -- again through the complementary opposites. So with the third eye open any blockage from emotions around you is apparent -- also any internal food blockages. That's why there has to be the "modified bigu" state after that. Of course if you have an energy master constantly transmitting the shen into you then you can continue to further open up the third eye while still in mundane reality -- to fully open up the third eye. That's the "alchemical agent" state described in Taoist Yoga -- the Dharmakaya is also called seeing the Original Face or seeing the Moon -- but it's just the first half of the alchemical agent. So there has to be more storing up of chi to create stronger shen from the jing -- for real astral travel. If there is astral travel before the shen is strong enough then the spacetime vortex just creates dizziness. These are the issues of chapters 9 to 11 in "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" -- the first one is making sure not to lose the alchemical agent through any type of sex emission. The 2nd is making sure the chi doesn't get stuck in the head and also making sure not to use the spiritual powers -- as will be very tempting -- and so that level of training requires a special situation to further open up the third eye. That's why Bodri and Nan state that the microcosmic orbit path of "esoteric yoga" is very effective and fast but also very specialized, requiring an energy master to supervise the practice. Also Bodri and Nan state that any practice of emitting chi and then taking in jing energy is just a type of pollution -- no different than phlegm or excrement. So their focus is on nirvikalpa samadhi state -- to get to the Dharmakaya -- and then to keep going in solitude, as Nan did his training as a 3 year hermit meditation.

Yeah -- typically the training to open the third eye is done in isolation, with an energy master, or in a monastery, etc. where the other males are training as well. So when I did my training I was in graduate school, I had my own room, I was on a special diet -- I had been vegan for years and then I switched to a salt-free diet -- so it was very strict. I was meditating 6 hours a day -- and then I was just reading meditation books. I had very little interaction with other people and as my energy developed I definitely noticed I was more aware of other people's emotional blockages and energy blockages -- and as I stated this awareness increased in my practice. As for the pressure in your head -- when the third eye opens up then the pressure releases through the transmission of energy out of the third eye. That's the macrocosmic orbit -- there is a continual flow of energy out of the third eye and then energy back into the body through the perineum. Chunyi Lin was asked how can he deal with constantly taking on people's energy blockages -- constantly healing people, being aware of their illnesses, etc. Chunyi Lin said he just goes "deeper into his heart" for stronger energy. That's how the full lotus works as well - the heart is the pivot point for a cycling of energy which is impersonal -- so while there might be pain there is also increased bliss as well as deeper love. So I just sit in full lotus and rely on the full lotus -- the energy is from the impersonal resonance of complementary opposites as an infinite process. Then when we rely on this process of complementary opposites resonance -- the solutions are given to us from the consciousness itself which self-organizes. That's why meditation appears to be very simple yet is very profound and powerful -- there is an always new and always fresh level of information. Right now we just entered the full moon energy -- yesterday was the strongest and then three days after the full moon will be strongest again. Still to open up the third eye there has to be an accumulation of jing energy -- it takes a lot of jing energy to open the third eye. This is why Vivekananda stated that spirituality is just sublimated sex energy. So the energy can either be transmitted out of the person as healing chi energy from the jing energy -- or you can keep storing up the chi energy into shen spirit energy which will open up the third eye to a greater level and open up the heart even further. Eating food also becomes an energy blockage at the advanced stages as well -- so when we eat food it slows down the energy in the third eye since all the blood creating the pressure has to go back to the stomach. That's why qigong masters rarely eat food -- the "modified bigu" diet means fasting one day a week and then eating one little veggie meal a day. But for the third eye training with the increased shen spirit energy -- then there's no food, no water and no sleep taken in. The goal is to have a "permanent center of gravity" in the middle of the brain -- which again is a permanent electromagnetic bliss in the center of the brain. The third eye can then sense where other people have their electromagnetic center of gravity. http://qigongmaster.com is where Chunyi Lin did his 49 day cave meditation -- of no food, no sleep and water -- just full lotus. But this "seven week" third eye meditation -- with no food, no water and no sleep -- is also described in the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" translated by Charles Luk.

http://www.learningstrategies.com/UniversalBuffet 45 minute talk from Chunyi Lin!!

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_7687/is_20091214/ai_n45434823/ The new Brainport device (used by special forces) http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=603 is a good way to understand proprioreception. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=device-lets-blind-see-with-tongues http://www.mechaps.com/cgi-bin/board/post.cgi?action=replyquote&forum=4&topic=258&postno=5 http://ibnlive.in.com/news/future-warriors-to-taste-battlefield/8737-11.html http://aintnogod.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_archive.html It's the inner ear but it's also a tactile sensation (balance is multi-sensory) -- so through "sensory substition" the tongue takes the place of the vestibular nerve. Sensory substitution replaces any of the senses with the electromagnetic pulses from the electrochemical inputs -- http://www.sensorysubstitution.co.uk/ So just as the tongue is connected to smell through tactile taste, so too does the inner ear proprioception connect to the vagus nerve for the electrochemical smell perception via the third eye pineal gland. Or -- the brainport -- if you want to be wired into the matrix. http://www.lariaminfo.org/pdfs/WaPo-McCredie-It-Just-Takes-Practice.pdf http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jul/23-the-blind-climber-who-sees-through-his-tongue http://www.technewsworld.com/story/50153.html?wlc=1282514822 http://www.intellectica.org/archives/n40/6.Bach-y-Rita.pdf http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~kuchenbe/pub/pdf/Kuchenbecker07-ICORR-Proprioceptive.pdf This article states "as there is no universal definition for proprioception in the literature...." yet proprioception is the key to sensory substitution: http://jodea.net/papers/senses-experience.html http://billangelos.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/06/coming-to-your-senses-part-two-adrift-in-the-psychodiaspora.html

Basically our thoughts -- our left-brain chatter -- is just a reflection of our emotional energy state -- and these electrochemical emotional blockages are, in turn, a reflection of our electromagnetic state. When we sit in full lotus the electrochemical energy is reversed and this reverses the electromagnetic energy which then empties out our brain -- turning the thoughts back into shen light spirit energy. Once the electrochemical blockage is gone then the thoughts are gone and the state of possession is over. So with more practice you learn to read and feel where the electromagnetic essence is in the body -- for example the perv attack (which btw keeps happening on this thread!) -- the perv, as I stated, has the electromagnetic essence stuck in the lower chakra and so they lie and use whatever scam to hide this fact. In other words - words are used more often to cover up the subconscious blockages. For pervs the blockage is conscious so the perv thinks they can lie to hide their true intentions -- and most people are fooled unfortunately while others get pissed off. Most people have lower emotional blockages but with left brain dominance (instead of the right brain dominance of the perv) the blockages are subconscious and then the electromagnetic center remains diffuse throughout the body. If you study say Tom Brown on Native American shamanism and tracking -- it's emphasized to walk with the toes slightly pointed inwards. There's minor body language tips that indicate these disconnections with the subconscious emotions - we all have them to different degrees. For example eating with your mouth closed. Most people eat with their mouth closed -- it's either taught as polite or it just makes sense. Some people though like to smack their mouths -- why? -- Because their minds are so fixated on the material perception of taste and eating so their mind can not perceive the obnoxious sound of their mouth opening wide and their lips smacking. haha. For the perv there is what I call the "bouncing leg epidemic" which is used as a means to desperately suck people off -- but the perv will also use reverse breathing, etc. As long as their electromagnetic essence is stuck in their lower chakra -- then that's who they are whether their left brain says so or not. They can lie to themselves and think they're in control, etc. but the perv is fixated on the electromagnetic essence creating external male ejaculations. For me, I have the case where my molars don't meet on my right side and so I chew on my left side but then my front incisors will knock together while I'm chewing. I have big front teeth. I don't perceive this sound of my front teeth when I'm chewing -- because it's liking hearing your own voice which sounds different externally, on a recording. So I had a good friend at the University who studied qigong and advaita vedanta. One time I asked him -- what can he say to criticize me. Because in the midwest there's this "Minnesota Nice" culture where people are repressed. So I said - whatever comes to mind. He completely surprised me when he said that my front teeth make this noise when I'm eating. haha. I was very glad to get that feedback as I had not been aware of it. Another obvious subconscious blockage is smell -- smell bypasses the prefrontal cortex conscious awareness and then smell is a quantum resonance perception. So the brain is trained to adjust to the quantum resonance and then the smell is no longer perceived at the classical sense of awareness -- the standard left brain perception. That's why the first breath on waking up in the theta mind dream perception can also smell ourselves but then the next breath the waking beta mind state blocks out the smell. But the third eye then perceives smell as an electrochemical blockage called proprioreception -- it's the tingling sensation of an electrochemical blockage. So although I (my left brain awareness) can't smell myself, unless it's a new smell, I (my third eye) can perceive the electrochemical blockages, a tingling sensation, which would manifest as smell -- these are internal impurities from bad food. When the third eye awareness gets really purified then it can smell cancer -- I had this perception of cancer smell once. When I went 8 days on just half a glass of water and I did qigong the whole time -- then I went to the Level three retreat led by Chunyi Lin. There was a big conference room filled with people but there was one man in front who smelled like death. I was truly amazed that no one else seemed to notice this person smelled so bad -- even though he was way on the other side of a huge room. I was farthest from him -- how could anyone even stand to be in the same room with him!! haha. Then this man announced he had come up from Arizona just to get special healing from Chunyi Lin since he had a serious disease. Turned out his room was next to me and then after he got healing from Chunyi Lin he had sex with his girlfriend!! He wasted the qigong healing energy! haha. I could barely stand the smell of this men from the next room over -- yet his girlfriend could not smell him! haha. Anyway cancer smells like rotting flesh to the third eye perception when the energy channels are really open. So for the third eye awareness there has to be a very pure internal cleansing which I often don't have from eating sugar, etc. Alcohol and vinegar are good antiseptics against sugar (the antiseptics clear out the smell blockage through the third eye internal proprioreceptive electrochemical tingling sensation). But more important is just to not eat any bad food -- this includes caffeine and even salt on an advanced level, not to mention meat, fried food, etc. So the real spiritual training is not really conducive to a material mundane reality -- taobums is a mundane reality. haha. So anyway when we sit in full lotus the subconscious energy blockages are made apparent - which is preventative as the symptoms are not yet manifested strong enough to be conscious. This is a great thing -- for example I had a full time job as a relay operator for the deaf community so I had to type as fast as people talk. About half the workers wore braces on the wrist from carpal tunel. My girlfriend had a data job as well and so we both slept with wrist braces! haha. That was before I did qigong. So then I got workers comp for carpal tunel -- $600 -- and I went to S.F. to look for Effie P. Chow, qigong master!! haha. Anyway my dad once asked me why I don't have carpal tunel as I'm always typing -- I took another data entry job which I did part-time for 10 years, etc. I told my dad it's because I sit in full lotus. My dad was immediately confused -- how could the position of my legs affect my wrists? haha. Definitely the hips will loosen up amazingly from full lotus -- and that is the great secret. If I go a few hours without full lotus, if I'm digesting food, then my hips and sacrum, and the small of the back, start tightening up. So then when I go back into full lotus the bliss goes back up into my brain and it feels great and then the electromagnetic sensation in the third eye increases. Qigong master Jim Nance, the assistant of Chunyi Lin, was a kung fu master back in the 1960s. Jim Nance is a big athletic African-American -- was a professional basketball player as well. Anyway so he always won his martial arts fights and he said he would see his opponent's moves before they happened! It was like in the Matrix -- how time slows down because your perceptions are faster in relation to time. The brain is processing information faster -- there's more conscious awareness of otherwise subconscious perceptions. Even though Jim Nance always won -- after he won he always wept. So then this Chinese master came to witness their fighting and when Jim Nance wept after winning -- the Chinese master said that Jim Nance should learn "internal martial arts." Of course in the 1960s in the U.S. there were no internal martial arts masters to be known about -- and so thirty years later Jim Nance met Chunyi Lin. Anyway Jim Nance would weep because when he perceived the other person's moves before they happened -- he was also perceiving and taking in the other person's emotions. So the energy is impersonal and flows into another person and then the electromagnetic field enables the third eye to process the other person's electrochemical blockages. So when Jim Nance was fighting someone else he was really fighting himself. That's why qigong masters focus on healing and love -- because this division of self and other gets broken down. Chunyi Lin has had students who increased their height -- after they had spent a life being way too short -- and even paralysis has been healed -- and so changing the bone and nerve structure is part of the qigong training. The skull bone gets soft and the skull will expand from the energy. haha. That's because Chunyi Lin does the laser or shen transmissions.

O.K. if you're going to do mind yoga - meditation -- then you want to, at first, concentrate or focus your mind. So you can repeat a mantra -- a great one is "Ohm Mani Padme Hung" So you say that over and over in your mind -- not out loud -- but as a thought. So any other thought just gets replaced by "Ohm Mani Padme Hung." Now what happens is that as your mind energy focuses or concentrates then you'll get sensations in your brain -- blissful pressure and a peacefulness and then as the energy builds up you see light in your head -- when your eyes are closed. That's mind yoga but at the same time the mind is weak on its own -- it's strong but it's difficult to focus the mind on its own. It's like turning a bicycle wheel. If you hold the wheel at the hub and then try to turn the wheel it's very hard to turn the wheel. If you grab the wheel at the tire you can then spin the wheel easily and this will turn the hub. So your body is the tire or rim of the wheel -- if you can spin your body which you can do easily through the standing active exercises then the hub -- your mind -- will also spin easily. And so as you meditate you enjoy the energy, you learn to listen to the energy and you learn that the process of meditation is consciousness itself -- that it's an eternal process of energy creation which we are always already a part of.

Roth and his students went here to do meditation training: http://www.bmzc.org/events.html http://www.brown.edu/Faculty/Contemplative_Studies_Initiative/

Yeah here's an interview with Harold Roth, author of "Original Tao" http://www.holosforum.org/halroth.html

Yeah good question - this book is fascinating from what I've read so far: Roth, Harold. Original Tao: inward training (nei-yeh) and the foundations of Taoist mysticism. Columbia University Press. 1999. http://www.amazon.com/Original-Tao-Foundations-Mysticism-Translations/dp/0231115652 Original Tao: Inward Training (Nei-yeh) and the Foundations of Taoist Mysticism (Translations from the Asian Classics) [Paperback] http://books.google.com/books?id=rJd7o9Ub960C&dq=%22harold+roth%22+%22original+tao%22&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=hqVwTLfXOoO3ngeSkdnWBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-11564-3/original-tao

http://www.meditationexpert.com/kuantzu.htm

http://mssparky.com/2010/07/us-military-investigates-contractor-work-force-with-docs/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_and_Air_Force_Exchange_Service Is "huddle house" a fast food military franchise or? Ah Southern breakfast joint.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddle_House

http://counter-recruitment.blogspot.com/2010/08/too-fat-to-fight-military-recruits-and.html http://www.csmonitor.com/World/2010/0407/No-more-Burger-King-on-Afghanistan-base-Soldiers-grumble.

Decisions go hand and hand with technology. When we work with technology then the right hand is dominant and also the left brain is dominant to make decisions. So for decisions we have intentional planning, we have linear time, and we have a contained sense of space -- since technology contains infinity for mathematics through geometry. Science has proven that any decisions about motion are actually not our decisions -- our brain perceives what motion our body needs to make and then our body makes the motion -- only later does our left-brain become aware of this lower brain decision, and then the left prefrontal cortex "decides" to make the same motion. So the decision to move is an illusion -- our brain convinces itself that "we" decided to move even though our conscious left brain does not have the power in this decision! http://lawandmedicine.wordpress.com/tag/libet/ So when we practice meditation and body transformation then our sense of time changes -- it's via relativity -- if you speed up the frequency of your consciousness when it approaches the speed of light then there is a slowing down of time. When time slows down compared to your own awareness at the speed of light it means you can perceive more bits of information within the same amount of time -- or what would otherwise be subconscious now becomes part of your conscious decisions. For example if you are listening to someone talking -- the person talking may not be aware that in fact what they say to you triggers an association of thoughts that are not directly related to the content of the person talking. So while you're listening you are also thinking about things which may not relate to the same direction or line of thought of the person thinking. At the same time the person talking will probably become aware that while you appear to be listening you are actually thinking about something else not directly related to what the person is talking about. Meanwhile while you are thinking about something else besides what the person is talking about you become aware that the person talking to you realizes that you are thinking about something that is not directly related to what the person is talking about. Robin Dunbar calls this the "fifth level of intentionality" in humans: http://the-mouse-trap.blogspot.com/2008/09/intentionality-order-order.html So human society functions most naturally in groups of about 100 people so that this 5th level of intentionality can consciously keep track of all the various levels of thought between different people. In science there is also the concept of "self organization" which is called "human swarms" as well: http://views.washingtonpost.com/leadership/guestinsights/2010/08/smart-swarms-the-power-of-self-organization.html So a more appropriate model for decision making might be music -- the question -- the ultimate question of intentionality for a decision is "who is listening?" If you are listening to someone -- if you are really listening -- then who are you to really listen? When does listening start and stop? If all your thoughts are based on the I-thought -- where does that I-thought come from? If you repeat I-I-I-I over and over and any thought you have you think who is thinking this? And you think "I Am" -- and then you listen to the source of the I-thought -- repeat I-I-I and LISTEN to what is the source of the I-thought.... Then this listening means no one is listening! Who we really are is this eternal self-organizing of listening as consciousness -- and that eternal process creates spacetime, creates light, energy, matter -- and that eternal process of listening self-organizes -- harmonizes -- knows what to do. But there is a specific means for this decision making to happen -- it's through the yin-yang resonance so that your left and right brain are yin and yang -- the right and left hand, the upper and lower body -- etc. And so through specific exercise you can increase your ability to listen to intentionality -- to be aware of the decisions that your mind is making -- as it is part of the greater mind called reality.

Since this review of "The Modernity of Witchcraft" http://www.amazon.com/Modernity-Witchcraft-Politics-Occult-Postcolonial/dp/0813917034 hasn't done the practice -- the secret ritual of eating a person -- then they don't understand the analysis. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2005/is_1_33/ai_56027332/ http://www.upress.virginia.edu/books/geschiere.html Asase Yaa!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asase_Ya

The emphasis of Master Nan, Huai-chin is how most Buddhism falls into "mind yoga" without transforming the body -- so a person can practice what Bodri and Nan call "cessation and contemplation" which includes all the various mind yoga meditations -- it is the foundation and goal of meditation but the results are very slow. So Master Nan, Huai chin says that the body must be transformed in order for real meditation to occur. The Taoists also focus on transforming the body -- but from the perspective of the body's energy, instead of the perspective of the emptiness (as is the case for Ch'an buddhism). So the Taoists will criticize Buddhism for also not transforming the body -- because again due to just practicing mind yoga. Master Nan and Bodri explain a lot but at the same time for "real" meditation which means after nirvikalpa samadhi -- then Nan and Bodri state that it can not really be put into words. Also based on Master Nan's vows as a monk he's not allowed to describe "real" meditation anyway. So once the body channels are opened up then it's true that the energy circulates on its own -- but not just in the body! This is called the "macrocosmic orbit" in Taoism -- "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" -- it has to be experienced to really know what it's like. At that point then the emptiness is the best guiding principle for the meditation because if you can travel out of your body -- then where should you travel to -- what for -- and "who" is it that is traveling? What is the meaning of immortality or eternity if you can just travel out of your body -- where does it start and end? These questions can only be answered by a proper understanding and focus on the emptiness, whereas if the focus is on the body transformation then improper attachment to the powers of the body happens. When the powers of the body are used through the mind -- and not the emptiness -- then an imbalance in the body/mind happens which can only be resolved through the emptiness.

http://www.spiritual-technology.com/wp_spirit_eng/?p=82 Peat -- sounds cool. thanks.

It sounds like your thinking of meditation instead of meditating itself. I recommend instead of doing sitting meditation you should do standing active exercises like a simple tai chi -- you can find some simple standing exercises online easily -- or get practice guidance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_1sPDntOTs This exercise looks very simple yet it is very effective -- just bend the knees more for more dramatic effect. Visualize a clear light in the center of the body and the idea is to FEEL an electromagnetic force that turns into a loving light energy. Of course doing that in public will create a scene. If you're doing sitting exercise I recommend at least sitting in "half lotus" with one leg up on the thigh. If the pain is distracting - then good -- it empties out your brain from thinking about other stuff. As for burping -- you want to be doing a bit of reverse breathing -- which means bring the energy up when you breath in. You breath through the diaphragm -- relaxed and subtle but the lower belly, below the diaphragm comes in a bit when you breath in. Keep a smile on the face which activates your relaxation nerves. Then you can transmit loving energy to your female friend and then she will sleep peacefully. The focus is on feeling the energy, enjoying the flow of the energy.

Right if you want to learn more about "sex blackmail" then read Jim Hougan's excellent expose on spooks and the CIA: http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Agenda-Watergate-Deep-Throat/dp/0394514289

Good call Mokona -- the evangelicals are claiming the Navy discriminates against them and have filed a lawsuit against the Navy -- so it should hit the MSM soon: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=16123 http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/may22/13.23.html http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/EvangelicalsForceInMilitaryChaplainCorps.html It's just a "king of the homosexual hill" struggle. Sorry but I'm not big on the military.

What a bunch of "closeted thugs" -- did you watch that Project for New American Century doc? It has that british military video of the U.S. killing some Iraqi civilians -- the British dude makes all these sexual seduction noises. Sadistic gay sex -- that's what the military is really about -- yeah it's Western religion as closeted sadistic thugs. Hitler was gay. Hoover was gay. Bush is gay. Sorry you don't have to be a "closted thug" if your homosexual -- but the right wing military religious types are sadistic closeted thugs. My brother-in-law joined the military in El Salvador at age 14 -- and he was made a sex slave -- and now he's a closeted thug -- there's a whole culture of this evil.

I got the link on that one: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481# 911 Press for Truth documentary -- interviews the lawyer for the author of the book -- CIA chief couldn't keep that secret!!

Marblehead -- Ideology -- being brainwashed -- is based on subconscious concepts. If you KNEW what you were talking about then that wouldn't be brainwashing. When you emphasize what you're "TALKING" about that is a subconscious emphasis on your left-brain dominance. What I'm talking about is permanent transformation of your brain physiology -- I'm talking about a permanent magnetic bliss in the center of the brain! I'm talking about being able to consciously FLEX the center of your brain at will and transmitting energy out of the brain. Modern people can not do this -- modern people have left brain dominance -- and so modern people think they're "talking about" something -- when in fact modern people live in a fake world of rationalism. Modern rational thinking IS a type of religion!! Modern rational thinking is political ideology as deep religious brainwashing. So words online won't do anything -- I recommend sitting in full lotus as much as possible -- why? Because you can't lie to yourself about full lotus. http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/162-You-Cant-Fake-The-Full-lotus!-Testimony-of-a-qigong-practitioner-in-the-context-of-parapsychology.html

Well in India David Shayler might be seen as enlightened -- nothing wrong necessarily with dancing up as a woman and believing you are god.... still I'll look for the youtube vid. http://www.democraticwarrior.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-20021.html Seriously extreme conspiracy activism will do this to a person -- for me to get into paranormal psychic training was a natural extension of my own activism. Of course the materialist rationalist leftists freaked out on me -- but now doing yoga, etc. is much more mainstream. http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-52231.html Anyone who exposes Dawkins as secretly being a religious maniac has my thumbs up! I just did the same on my previous post!! http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/15485-of-men-and-of-heaven/page__view__findpost__p__208908