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Well if you do that month long training then you'll be able to transmit energy easily and heal others and sit in full-lotus as long as you want and probably even see inside other people's bodies so you can heal the source of their deep blockages, etc. Anyway as for me traveling to China I'm practically homeless myself! I travel with the earth in resonance with the moon and the sun. And the center of the universe can not be known so travel....as qigong master Chunyi Lin states! ha.

If I remember correctly there was a book about Kwan Saihung -- a biography of life.

Well the nutrition discussion is actually an issue of alchemy. When you sublimate the electrochemicals it means that the anerobic bacteria are transduced by the vagus nerve (on the right side of the neck, connecting down to the stomach and reproductive organs) so that the "shit" goes to the head....!! But, as Sri Ramana Maharshi states, after a person is "realized" then the fire of the body will burn up whatever food a person eats. He very strongly advocates a vegetarian diet but then states afterwards a person can eat whatever the hell they want. Tantra also allows eating of meat -- and all of this stuff comes from the Bushmen culture where the men fasted for 8 days straight while the hunt (away from the women) then return, give the meat to the women, eat some I would think, dance for 10 hours straight while the women sing, and then create healing light from the intense fire in their bellies. So the Bushmen diet was 80% greens and 20% meat.

OK as a counter-weight to the misogynist Taoist Yoga book I'll recommend "Dakini's Warm Breath" http://www.amazon.com/Dakinis-Warm-Breath-...e/dp/157062920X There is a line in there that seems to corroborate what I was saying about the earth phase -- "...smith hammering a metal mirror, making the four types of joy descend slowly like a tortoise from the head to the secret center....The four types of joy have ascending experiences of bliss...." leading to female formless awareness. (p. 232) Yeah it's a phase -- not some permanent destination (earth) since female formless awareness is beyond time and beyond space. Thanks for the clarification.

Wow a foreigner protest of the government cranking bad music into the Taoist sacred mountain. That's an AMAZING story! Thanks for getting back on this question about people stating Master Wang controlling the CTA -- if the temples have bad people in them as Taoist monks supposedly, according to your friend, hmm makes you really wonder.... cool story about hanging with the homeless alchemist!

Wow dark chocolate must be powerful! haha. Hey witch -- here's my latest math conspiracy rant: OK just for fun let's take "Marko Rodin" another Hawaii techno-fix Stargate Conspiracy dude (yes he was on Art Bell). http://www.rodinmath.com/ So he supposedly has figured out the secret of the yin-yang symbol but his technology relies on QUANTUM mechanics (just like Schauberger or Tesla). Rodin uses rational numbers applied to the tai-chi symbol and then makes a vortex out of that secret "law of three" using numerology. Then his technology relies on quantum math that is based on IRRATIONAL numbers (not rational). So, as I've stated before, because of Type III Nonlocality (Nadeau and Kafatos), there's an inherent dependency on the technology in order to verify the quantum results, but because the technology relies on irrational geometry, against the complementary opposite harmonics in Taoism, the technology is INHERENTLY destructive of ecology. Ecology means "study of home" but in traditional cultures the forest means mind -- like in the South Pacific -- WAHL is forest as mind. What ecology literally means is the study of OHM because when the forest is your home then sound is your dominant perception. Number is separate from geometry -- that's the secret of both Taoism and Pythagorean harmonics. The source of sound, through the logic of complementary opposite harmonics, is female formless awareness. Rodin is trying to return to pure number but he's still dependent on form as irrational number -- more precisely irrational geometry. The same problem happened when Charles Madden wanted to publish me. He has books published on fractals and music and he's a physicist. Quantum chaos math is dependent on symmetry as logical axioms -- even though quantum logic defies the commutative property through the uncertainty principle. To test the infinite potential of quantum consciousness the technology relies on classical, irrational mathematics relying on symmetric axioms. So in Charles Madden's book he notes that the Tai Chi symbol is not a fractal because it is not symmetric -- why -- because the yin and yang symbol are different colors. In fact yin is 3:4 and yang is 2:3 as nonwestern music harmonics -- and this is again why fractals are not ecology as well, nor is the systems theory of Gregory Bateson (although at least he know the answered was to be found in Pythagorean philosophy). Stephen Hawking's new book, "When God Made the Integars" hones in on this secret as he notes for Vedic math the geometry was considered always rational, or symmetrical, while the number, as rational fractions, was considered infinite as time. Western math turned this around stating that the Pythagorean 1-1 triangle is irrational -- as geometry -- and therefore the number as rational fraction, or harmonic ratio, can now be made as an infinite symbol, the irrational fraction, the square root of two. So it's a paradox because the 1-1 triangle LOOKS symmetrical but in fact the West says it isn't -- but the numbers in the West, as logical axioms, must be symmetric. The result is destruction of the harmony of ecology (which is maintained by resonating with female formless awareness as asymmetric, complimentary opposites). So in Western math there must be symmetry of the visual logical axioms (see math professor Ian Stewart's new book "Why Truth is Beauty: A history of symmetry). But the results are asymmetric geometry -- destruction of the harmony of ecology. Taoism is based on the opposite -- asymmetric logic, using complementary opposites as pure number or logical inference with the results being harmony of space or form. That's why the techno-fix won't work but yet it will be relied on as pure geometry (inventions without real math, like Tesla or Schauberger) since it's a projection of what I call "tantric technology" through what I call "the surplus value of consciousness."

I'll state the obvious: would make a damn good band name. I'll right I'm leaving the computer to do other work so you all are safe now! haha.

OK excellent. I've been back on the spirulina the past week so I guess I'm on the ball. Oh just thought I'd mention that I think the world is being destroyed because of the Power Set Axiom. I'm way anti-math. haha. Thanks again though! Hey -- I've got a book too you might have noticed: http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com It's totally crazy -- even this conspiracy publisher who said he'd publish it backed out.... haha. Well I go into my anti-math spiel there just in case you're curious -- it's from a music perspective.

OK you're still up! Or just got up? Hmm... Anyway I'm still listening to the same "Kenya and Tanzania: Witchcraft and Ritual Music" c.d. -- umm... see this is Bushmen inspired music and the Bushmen would trance dance all night.... so.... the deal is NOT to have some catchy equal-tempered "hook" in your head because that's EXACTLY what controls the mind -- putting it into a sentimental, nostalgic, disempowered brain wave.... Back to full-lotus trance data entry fun.

He is a tricky one isn't he! Here you go: Question:"Is samadhi a blissful or ecstatic state?" Sri Ramana Maharshi: "In samadhi itself there is only perfect peace. Ecstasy comes when the mind revives at the end of samadhi. In devotion the ecstasy comes first.. It is manifested by tears of joy, hair standing on end, and vocal stumbling. When the ego finally dies and the Sahaj is won, these symptoms and the ecstasies cease." So if you read him closely he does states that consciousness comes first and is the only thing eternal (not bliss or existence) but yet when the body (existence) is revived (and the mind) then true happiness is experienced.... so... go figure! haha.

Still kidding? Or.... in la la land? haha.

Well the secret is actually not words but nonwestern music. I recommend "Kenya and Tanzania: Witchcraft and Ritual Music".... haha. Words are fun though! Back to my music full-lotus trance overnight work schtick.

Wow -- interesting discussion on the elements as phases, etc. I always thought of earth as yin -- which would seem to belie Charle Luk's preference for "positive" vitality (yang).... but the best description I could find seems to validate Luk's position on "earth"... http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/archives20.../02twicken.html Anyway to be honest I really thought of earth -- from reading Taoist Yoga -- as what I call "female formless awareness" -- it's the root of the heart-mind -- and that seems to be what the above link implies, calling earth the "transformer." So I still just rely on the law of three -- yin, yang and female formless awareness. But I'll take the "wood" and "fire" emphasis as a compliment! haha. Besides "Taoist Yoga" is a PRACTICE book -- not something for conceptual discussion as much as experience. I got to the "immortal breathing" chapter -- chapter 10 -- and then it was all too powerful for modern society, but then I was also relying on qigong master Chunyi Lin's energy transmission, etc. During my intense training I just kept relying on Taoist Yoga which is a very specific training with a specific goal in mind and I agree that it definitely has a bias for yang -- electromagnetic or "positive" vitality -- relying on seclusion from worldly (female) life, etc. Not too practical for today's society. haha. Still there's that wooden peg up the ass at the end of the book. Haven't stooped to that advanced technique yet....!

A good example of how the two combine would be a vegetarian diet. I was vegetarian for 15 years and was so while doing intensive qigong training. But then because I moved and there was no good vegetarian restaurant near my place and cooking and transporting food was a pain -- reheating it, whatever -- I just started eating meat (plus I enjoyed the testosterone and caloric kick). Anyway sitting in full-lotus all the time transduces the anerobic bacteria via the right side vagus nerve -- and the vagus nerve secretes extra acid in the stomach. Qigong master Chunyi Lin just eats one little veggie meal a day and fasts one day a week. He says to stop eating crap! haha. He says eat only 70% full because the food just goes to your head while in full-lotus, etc. At least I stopped dumpster diving and have toned down my fast food intake. Crazy zen! haha.

Wow -- a famous person in dialog here. haha. OK I'm sending that latest article you posted to my sister. haha. Alright -- read that article. Very awesome! Too bad cod are going extinct from everyone dosing up on fish oil these days and apparently flax is not the best substitute as I had thought. http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/food/fish...rming/fish-feed http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/tags/direct-actions Yeah it's kinda tragic to say the least ... http://www.earthsave.ca/articles/ethics/fish.html Have you seen this new "fish oil" enhanced milk and even eggs? Crazy. Yeah diet kinda sucks.... umm anyway maybe flax seed is a better alternative (not that I'm on any special diet -- although I'm working on it!). I just grind up the flax seed with my molars! haha. It's great for your brain as well to work the molars.... I buy them at an Ecuadorian store.... imports. http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/flaxseed.html

OK when I was at a Level 4 retreat qigong master Chunyi Lin stated that the leader of Falun Gong claimed he could levitate but when asked by his followers to do so he wasn't able to.... Qigong master Chunyi Lin stated that he indeed levitated 9 feet up, spiraling, when in full-lotus -- but only after very deep mountain meditation. I don't know -- I mean my friend was in Beijing last November and he was really impressed by the martial arts acrobat show for tourists -- lots of levitation (by wires of course). haha.

Well it is interesting that seafood would probably have higher lithium as well! HAHA So I wonder what the connection is with Omega 3 and lithium -- probably bind to each other like yin and yang. haha. Plus there's gotta be some intense side effects from taking too much lithium or even too much omega 3. haha. I get my head full of crap all the time just because I eat normal food while sitting in full-lotus. haha. Anyway yeah I got banned from Michael Prescott's blog PRECISELY because I was focusing on how parapsychology ignores the importance of the body for creating powers, etc. Prescott focuses on channelling and mind meditation, etc. I argued that this is political because the original Christians practiced fasting for body transformation -- the first bishops -- but then the Holy Roman Empire got rid of that church and said that the real Bishops just use mind meditation -- sacred writing, etc. You can see this same fixation in the occult magick scene as well where they just repeat the Holy Roman Empire "rituals" with magick writing that you enchant, etc. -- pretty much ignoring the focus on body transformation. This ignoring of the body in Zen is also a big schtick in Master Nan, Huai-chin's writings -- and that's also why he's ignored by the whole "What is Enlightenment" scene, etc. Prescott was pissed because he believes in the Historical Christ and then I went to the library and posted quotes from all the authors who cited, detailing the wholes in their arguments. haha. http://truthbeknown.com for further details. Oh wait -- no fighting. Thanks witch!

Well qigong master Chunyi Lin sat in full-lotus in a cave -- nothing but full-lotus: 40 days, no food, no water, no sleep. Now he's treating people referred by the Mayo Clinic: late-term cancer, etc. He just co-authored a qigong chapter for the Mayo Clinic's Textbook on Complementary Medicine with Mayo Clinic oncologist Dr. Nina Mishek. So I'd say qigong master Chunyi Lin just focuses on results and Jim Nance is the first African-American qigong master -- they're both breaking new territory. http://www.learningstrategies.com/Qigong/Home.asp has more on spring forest qigong.

Well I do know that Jim Nance can blast the middle of my brain with bliss-magnetic light while he sits in full-lotus about 10 miles away. http://springforestqigong.com for further details. He does long distance healing now -- full-time.

Sounds like good work SF Jane! Here's a debate with Lazar -- but notice the FRAMEWORK of the debate is focused on mind yoga (a resting mind versus a focused mind).... http://flowstate.homestead.com/files/lazar.html In the West we tend to ignore the body's role -- I would recommend Stanford U Professor Robert Sapolsky's research. He also promotes meditation but focuses on the adrenal connection to the hypothalamus-pituitary glands. That's closer to actual alchemy practices like the microcosmic orbit, etc. He's a physiologist studying mammal stress and how it affects disease -- the emotion connection to physiology. One good example with the focusing versus resting issue is when qigong master Chunyi Lin did a study at the U of MN where he was supposed to not send healing energy to people even though he could heal them (so that the study had a control). The problem with this approach as "objectivity" is that a healer takes in the pain of the person they are reading the energy of and sending out the healing energy is also what enables the healer to transduce and get rid of the pain they take in. The West doesn't take into consideration how the healing process is actually not based on an objective observer but a third system of consciousness which guides both the healer and the person being healed. So that study did not bring positive results. Qigong master Effie P. Chow has done a lot of N.I.H. studies -- and she IS a real full-lotus master -- another exception. Thanks for sharing SF Jane!

Then there's "internet addiction" -- did you see the Replacements cartoon episode yesterday? haha

OK I read through this thread but didn't watch any of the videos. My two bits: Qigong master Jim Nance http://springforestqigong.com was a kung fu black belt in the 1960s. He said he always won and it was like the Matrix movie because everything would go into slow motion and he could know what the opponent was going to do before the opponent acted. He said that after he won he would always SOB because he felt the opponents pain as much as he gave pain to the opponent. So then once a Chinese master came to NYC (I think that's where this was) and Jim Nance asked the Chinese master about this -- after it happened again, sobbing after winning -- and the master said: You need to study INTERNAL martial arts. But back in the 1960s in the U.S. it was pretty much unheard of. So anyway I think it's similar to the whole Buddhist versus Taoist stories you read in those Charle Luk Ch'an books -- essentially it's easy to get attached to the powers but it's difficult to learn that the powers are just a reflection of our own internal projections -- so the more damage we do the more we damage ourselves. So the Buddhist monks state you're not supposed to use the powers except to develop deeper levels of emptiness or to help teach about emptiness, etc.

That's the problem with the Western meditation studies -- they're testing mind yoga practitioners -- not full-lotus yoga masters, like qigong master chunyi Lin. For example the Dalai Lama has been a big influence on these meditation studies and he's sect is mind meditation -- not actually full-lotus yoga. I even emailed the scientist at UW-Madison, my alma mater, where these MRI meditation studies are taking place -- requesting that he test qigong master Chunyi Lin.

Ok new I get the inside joke. haha.