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Quantum physicist Jean-Pierre Vigier call the protoconsciousnes: It is NOT light. It is quantum entanglement as the nonlocal protoconsciousness that is eternal motion of time and frequency as superluminal momentum. Louis de Broglie called it, to quote: Professor Fabio Cardone:

Ramana Maharshi:

Http://www.ayurvedacollege.com/articles/drhalpern/ether RAmana Maharshi.:

First Poonjaji quote: Then science: Ulf Leonhardt is the best researcher on this subject This is not light - it is called "protoconsciousness" in quantum physics - it is also called "noncommutative phase" that is nonlocal. It is pure awareness that is NOT light. So the MIRROR is NOT light. It resonates as eternal speech or eternal listening - those are the two mirrors - or as zero frequency infinite time and infinite frequency zero time.

In his booklet “Who am I?” Ramana says: M.: “Mouna is not closing the mouth. It is eternal speech.” D.: “I do not understand.” M.: “That state which transcends speech and thought is mouna.” D.: “How to achieve it?” M.: “Hold some concept firmly and trace it back. By such concentration silence results. When practice becomes natural it will end in silence. Meditation without mental activity is silence. Subjugation of the mind is meditation. Deep meditation is eternal speech.”

SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI https://ramana-maharshi.weebly.com/uploads/2/4/.../talks_with_sri_ramana_maharshi.pd...

Ramana Maharshi: People want to see the Self as something. They desire to see it as a blazing light, etc. But how could that be? The Self is not light, not darkness, not any observed thing.

Yogiraj Sri Sri Shyama Charan Lahiri Mahasaya

Tibetan medical doctor. Tamil Tirumantiram excerpts It is the light of Shiva that beams jnana....It is the light born of constant awareness of the pure sound Aum. 2686

Dr. James Mallinson ................................ International Journal of Science and Research Publicatons, Volume 2, Issue 5, May 2012, "The Concept of Nada and Bindu in Tirumantiram" pdf Nirmala V., Dept. of Sanskrit Sahitya, Research Scholar, Sree Sankaracharya University of Sanskrit, Kalady, Kerala, India

Liu Ming's xiuzhen houbian tl Fabrizio Pregadio in Cultivating the Dao:

Teachings and Practices of the Early Quanzhen Taoist Masters, The https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0791485315 Stephen Eskildsen - 2012 - ‎Philosophy Qi is the mother of spirit. Spirit is the child of qi. Always make the child and mother guard each other without separating. Naturally, after many days, the spirit will become stable, and the way of im- mortality will be accomplished. [Stage] two: Once this has been attained, let go of your four great elements (or limbs?)47 [of your ... The Way of Complete Perfection: A Quanzhen Daoist Anthology https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1438446519 2013 - ‎History As the Yinfu jing (Scripture on the Hidden Talisman) says,l6 'Sacred accomplishment is born here; spiritual illumination emerges from this.' Qi is the mother of spirit; spirit is the child of qi.” If you can constantly guard spirit and qi together, without allowing separation, with time spirit becomes stabilized naturally, and the way of ... Cultivating Perfection: Mysticism and Self-transformation in Early ... https://books.google.com/books?isbn=9047421736 Louis Komjathy - 2007 - ‎History And, “Qi is the mother of spirit; spirit is the child of qi. Like a hen incubating an egg, preserve spirit and nourish qi. Then you will never be separated from the Wondrous” (ibid.). 367 The black ox is also mentioned in section 7a above. 368 The Celestial Pass usually refers to a head location, perfected chongyang's instructions ...

http://rumsoakedfist.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26928&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=73b724595c0cabce60454d14ec71c816 I posted this over at the forum covering Xingyiquan and Tai Chi - with images so it will be easier to follow. thanks

The Five Element Creation Fist routine begins as with most Xingyiquan routines in the Three Body Posture (San Ti Shi). The San Ti Shi is the most important and most basic training method in Xingyiquan. All movements in the style do not stray away from the principles of the San Ti Shi. Sure enough - right hand is up, while left hand is down - based on the SECRET of LUNG as yang qi of water, right hand is yin and LIVER is yin qi of fire, left hand is yang The Santi posture is based on the metal element in the Xingyi five element fists. The metal element corresponds to the Lungs. Therefore by cultivating in this posture the Lungs and the Kong Chi are greatly enhanced. AMAZINGLY - there is no understanding that the right hand is yin while the lungs are yang - and this is the real secret of the San Ti Shi posture as the CORE training of Xingyiquan martial arts internal alchemy!!!!

So Starjumper is refuting my above claim. I have a new blog post that completely corroborates my claim - and the source is Awakening to Reality, the alchemy text that is considered the key text of the Dragon Gate school. http://www.leefamilyinternalarts.com/Keith Ewers.html So in reviewing the source googlebook - “the right hand grabs the white tiger, left hand grabs the green dragon,” Taichi: A Personal Learning Experience, Part 1 By Arthur T. Orawski I didn't realize he is actually a student of Waysun Liao out of Chicago.... And he mentions how anyone part of the Green Dragon Society - going back thousands of years - would be taught this secret of Tai Chi - the white tiger is the lung (yin qi of the po soul, the origin of the generative force of the body) and the green dragon is the yin qi of the hun soul, the origin of the generative force of heart spirit).... O.K. so why are there no other sources for it on the interwebs? The only other source is from Feng Shui stating the right side is female, west and the white tiger, the left side is male, east and the green dragon. He cites this book Wu Dzing Pian as the source. O.K. I found a second source!! 3. The White Dragon Plays in the Clouds This movement will be familiar to all persons who practice T'ai Chi Ch'uan (Taijiquan). In Taijiquan, various names for this movement include: Moving Hands Like Clouds, Waving Hands Like Clouds, Playing with Clouds, Wave Hands in Clouds, Cloud Hands 云手 : Yun Shou. The Taijiquan the feet and hands move gracefully in a coordinated manner, while in Dragon Qigong the hands and waist move but both feet do not move. Stand with your feet separated apart at a comfortable distance. Bring your right hand up to about the level of your mouth, palm facing towards the body. Bring you left hand up to about the level of your belly button, with your left palm facing towards the body. Your feet will remain flat on the ground during the entire exercise. Pause in this Wuji position. Inhale and exhale deeply a few times in the Wuji position: relax the abdomen as you inhale, draw the abdomen in as you exhale (natural abdominal breathing method). Figure 3.1 Slowly and gently turn at the waist towards the right side. Inhale as you turn to the right side. Turn as far as you can to the right side. When you reach your limit then exchange your hands by bringing the left hand up to the level of your mouth and by bringing your right hand down to the level of your belly button. Figures 3.2 and 3.3 Start to slowly and gently turn at the waist towards the left side. Exhale as you turn to the left side. Turn as far as you can to the left side. When you reach your limit then exchange your hands by bringing the right hand up to the level of your mouth and by bringing your left hand down to the level of your belly button. Figure 3.4 and 3.5 Then begin again to turn back to the right side as you inhale. Figure 3.5, and 3.2 At first the movement sequence will seem a bit stiff and mechanical. After numerous practice sessions, this "Cloud Hands" movement will become more fluid, flexible, playful, and flowing. You will begin to become the White Dragon Playing in the Clouds. Repeat this movement sequence to the right side and left side for four to eight repetitions depending upon the time available and/or your level of physical conditioning. Don't hold the breath; breathe freely and easily in coordination with the movements. Take your time; move slowly and deliberately. I like to bend my knees and sink down a bit during parts of this movement - don't keep the knees stiff. Flow like a Dragon in the moving clouds. Be sure to turn at the waist. Interesting - no mention of the Tiger!! But yet it is the SAME secret. But on deeper digging Michael P. Garofalo has lots on Dragon and Tiger: "In ancient Chinese culture, the dragon usually represents the yang or male forces of nature and the tiger the yin or female forces. Balancing those energies inside yourself is an essential part of this ancient self-healing system. In China, the words "dragon" and "tiger" appear in many branches of qigong and in various martial arts. Taoists brought Dragon and Tiger Qigong to China's Shaolin temple, where it was preserved intact by Chan Buddhists. This was the original form of qigong from which the usage of the words "dragon" and "tiger" entered into the world of martial arts and qigong. Dragon and Tiger Qigong was commonly taught only to the Shaolin high clergy and not to the general public or ordinary monks. For this reason, many people in China still refer to it as a form of Buddhist qigong. However, because Dragon and Tiger develops and integrates the internal energetic principles of neigong, it is deeply rooted in Taoist qigong." - Bruce Frantzis, Dragon and Tiger Qigong, p.4 And this is really the key quote: "The dragon and tiger are respectively the yang and yin components of generative energy. Other names for the dragon are: the yang dragon that hides with the fluid, the yin within the yang (symbolized by the broken line flanked by two solid lines in the trigram Li), the vapor within the fluid, the vapor of pure yang, and the true fire. Other names for the tiger are: the yin tiger that hides within the vapor, the yang within the yin (symbolized by the solid line flanked by two broken lines in the trigram Kan), the fluid within the vapor, the fluid of pure yin (or the vapor of pure yin), and the true water. The dragon and tiger are therefore the components or ingredients of mundane generative energy. Do not confuse them with their carriers, fluid and vapor. Central to the preservation and cultivation of generative energy is the process known as the copulation of the dragon and tiger. The yin and yang components of generative energy meet and merge to become purified generative energy, which is also called the primordial vapor. The process begins with the vapors of pure yang (dragon) and pure yin (tiger) rising from the base of the spine and traveling separately up the spine and through the shoulder blades. When the vapors reach the head, they interact (copulate) and merge to become one unified vapor. This unified vapor descents to the palate of the mouth and is manifested as nectar, a sweet, sticky fluid. Swallowed down the throat, the nectar enters the middle tan-t'ian (in the area of the solar plexus) and eventually completes its circuit when it reaches the base of the spine again." - Nourishing the Essence of Life: The Outer, Inner and Secret Teachings of Taoism. Translated with and Introduction by Eva Wong. Boston, Shambhala, 2004. Pages 9-10, 8-23,94. Translation of three texts from the Daoist Canon, circa 1400 CE, called The Mysteries of the Tao (Tao-hsuan p'ien), Understanding the Mysteries (Wu-shuan p'ien), and the Sacred Treatise on the Great Mystery (T'ai-hsuan pao-tien) of the Complete Reality School of Daoism. We can see the confusion: Tiger and Dragon are contained within each other - and hide as vapor in fluid and vice versa but BOTH tiger and dragon are yin qi energy..... manifested through the resonance of complementary opposites..... Bruce Frantzis style of Tiger and Dragon qigong youtube So it gives the movements but nothing about white tiger as lungs and green dragon as liver.... And so when we return back to the actual alchemy text it gives a slightly different meaning of the tiger , p. 41 ( “The sun stands for the heart and the moon for the lower tan t'ien cavity (under the navel), respectively symbolized by the dragon (female or negative vitality) [yin qi] and the tiger (the male or positive vitality) [Yuan Qi].” Taoist Yoga Which is to say now the tiger is what above was called the purified generative energy, which is also called the primordial vapor and it is created AFTER the energy is cycled through the pineal gland and then swallowed back into the lower tan t'ien..... “However if he can unite the element of metal (male) with that of wood (female) and the sun and the moon in one place….he will see the light of true vitality in front of his original cavity of spirit which will then hold it to prevent it from running away; the longer it is held the brighter it will be. When it becomes stable it reveals the successful union of the dragon and tiger (i.e. the female and male vital breaths).” p. 72 AND SO NOW - we get clarification. The male or positive vitality is the metal as the lung energy. And so the right hand is yin as lower body - that goes against the yang of the lung as yuan qi energy.... interesting!! “The left eye stands for the East whose element is wood….” p. 65 “…the female element of moon is the wood….” p. 85 O.K. this is what I forgot!! the left eye is Moon as yin qi energy and then turns into Sun as the yuan shen.... If I remember correctly.... So the liver qi is moon as yin qi.....the moon within the Sun of the fire heart spirit. While the lung as metal is yuan qi yang..... thereby finalizing the connection of the negative vitality as the source of the positive spirit of the sun of the left eye. From the glossary: “negative fire in the stove” [lower tan tien] fire derived from prenatal vitality is “negative fire” in the house of water…. “spirit in li” the house of fire (the heart) is essential nature. Nature-vitality is negative golden light reveals the fullness of the “negative vitality within the generative force.” O.K. so that digs deeper in the mystery.... that the Dragon is the yin within the yang of the Sun fire So when Dragon is in the Sun-Fire it is the Moon-wood-female-yin or negative fire.... the Tiger is the yang within the yin of the water Moon And so the Tiger is the Lung Metal Yuan Qi source of the generative fluid - so the fire within the water or yang sun within the moon. You can see HOW Complicated this is!! haha. When I search Bruce Frantzis book on Dragon and Tiger qigong for Lung - I get one hit that mentions dragon! Dang!! So far I have the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality corroborating Waysun Liao - so I will stick with that for now.... O.K. so Bruce Frantzis has an image saying "moving 1 energizes the lungs and liver" - and the movement 1 on the youtube vid is the same more or less as the "moving of yin and yang" exercise"..... O.K. so maybe he just doesn't get into all the complicated Taoist Alchemy secrets. haha. The supreme Yin of the south gives birth the the fire of the heart, within this fire is the Yin Water. So what this means is that the yin qi of the liver is Moon - it will turn into generative fluid if left to its devices as water... but at the same time it powers the spirit as the fire of the heart....And my claim to this effect is corroborated by Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality stating: Spirit can only hold vitality temporarily but lacks the driving power of breathing, and without breathing, vitality cannot be driven into the channels of control and function and will drain away by the genital gate; this is caused by lack of pressure from in and out breathing. p. 87 And this alchemy line? The supreme Yang of the north gives birth to the water of the kidneys, within this water is Yang Fire. What this means then is the Lungs are Yuan qi as yang that is the source of the generative fluid of the Moon .... O.K. so it makes sense but again it gets very complicated quickly.... The Yin within the Yang is the supreme spirit of Yin, the essence of the sun. Again the liver qi. The Yang within the Yin is the the supreme essence of Yang, the splendor of the moon. The yuan qi source of the water tiger..... The Sacred Treatise on the Great Mystery, T'ai-hsuan Pao-tien, circa 1200 CE Translated by Eva Wong, Nourishing the Essence of Life, p. 94 So here is the secret - the "yin" of the fire is the liver of the heart while the yang of the water is the lungs. So what the common saying of alchemy says to take from the water to feed the dragon as fire - that means a FULL cycle of the energy since it has to go through the pineal gland to get purified and returned back to the lower tan t'ien, now the dragon, instead of tiger. I just word searched where I got that image and NO HITS for liver nor lung!! Hilarious - they don't know the SECRET That is the secret of Dragon and tiger interchanging....as real alchemy. Hence when yang (fire) contains a yin essence, it is known as wood (lesser yang) and when yin (water) contains a yang essence, it is known as metal (lesser yin)….just as greater yang (fire) grows from lesser yang (wood), so must fire be retracted back into wood. Just as greater yin (water) grows from lesser yin (metal), so must water be retracted back into metal. The two retracted halves - wood and metal, lesser yang and lesser yin, are then able to form the perfect earthly balance. This retraction and unification of yin and yang provides the matrix in which the golden embryo grows or is cultivated. 'Taking from water (☵) to fill in fire (☲)’: The History and Dynamics of Daoist Alchemy by Aaron Cheak, Ph.D. So Aaron Cheak does know the real secret - but does he know that is also the secret of the Dragon and Tiger Tai Chi "moving hands like clouds" movement? So this is why my "Idiot's Guide" article is confused on this - it is not clear. But now I have clarified things.... There was another great explanation of this process in a Tai Chi book from the UK - let's see if I can find it again.... NOW that I Have a handle on this stuff a bit better.... But you see where the noncommutative phase aspect comes in - it take the Quick Fire breathing to drive the yin qi of the liver back up above to keep it from turning into generative fluid - and so to turn it back into the air of water.... Tai Chi Chüan: Harmonizing Taoist Belief and Practice - Jeaneane D. Fowler, Shifu Keith Ewers This is it!! O.K. now to get the quote... The triagram Li is fire and predominantly yang, but the important middle line is yin, and so the Dragon is female. It is the yin essence in the yang, water in fire, the female in the male, the moon in the sun. It is referred to as Green Dragon....It is water that rises, being heated, and is therefore fiery but yielding, rising to Heaven. The triagram K'an/Kan is Water and predominantly yin and female. But the middle line is yang and alchemically it is the yang in the yin, the White Tiger, ....its function is to descend to Earth when fire reacts with it. It is the fire in the water. So THIS is Damo Mitchell.... In the alchemical process, the yang in the water is used to settle the yin in the fire: the water rises and the fire descends. Thus the solid yang line is taken out of the Water to replace the middle yin line in the Fire, thus producing Heaven. That's Triplex Unity: “the male of kan [water] is the sun and the female of li [fire] is the moon." So the deep breathing brings the lung qi DOWN to then pull the FIRE (the liver qi) DOWN with it... NOW I GET IT.... I was wondering why the LUng qi DESCENDS. Since it is Water as Tiger with yang in it... so it descends - that's what the water refers to.... The Lungs also direct Qi downward. A full inhalation can only occur when the Lungs send Qi down to the Kidneys, which in turn “Grasp The Qi.” This is essentially “Dantian Breathing,” or “Kidney Breathing,” the deep abdominal breathing advocated in meditation, Nei Gong and the martial arts. For this reason, natural deep breathing is of paramount importance in the internal arts. Tom Bisio, author of Nei Gong: The Authentic Classic (Nei Gong Zhen Chuan) Again the secret is the LUNG qi pulls down the FIRE of the heart (the liver qi) - since the lung qi is WATER.... Gotcha!! But Fowler and Ewers took down their book? it's not on google anymore. Since alchemy is concerned in the first place with the inner lines of the trigrams Li [fire] and Kan [water], the paradox of reversal consists in considering Li as female, while logically it should be male because its Yang-masculine lines are predominant. Analogously, Kan should be female, but is considered to be male. "The Sun is Li and belongs to Yang, and instead it is a girl. The Moon is Kan and belongs to Yin, and instead it is a boy. This is the reversal" (Xiuzhen shishu , 26.27a.) Isabelle Robinet confirms my alchemical discovery So this paradox is completely explained as the lung/kidney and heart/liver and how they are reversals within each other, etc. Somebody on a forum gives a plug for this book: "Tai Chi Chuan, Harmonizing Taoist Beliefs and Practice, Jeaneane D. Fowler, and "Shifu" Keith Ewers (probably the one exception I made to my non martial sources position, mainly due to Fowler. Her work is some of the best and clearest on the subject of Taoist history.) The Lungs also direct Qi downward. A full inhalation can only occur when the Lungs send Qi down to the Kidneys, which in turn “Grasp The Qi.” This is essentially “Dantian Breathing,” or “Kidney Breathing,” the deep abdominal breathing advocated in meditation, Nei Gong and the martial arts. For this reason, natural deep breathing is of paramount importance in the internal arts. Tom Bisio, author of Nei Gong: The Authentic Classic (Nei Gong Zhen Chuan) Again the secret is the LUNG qi pulls down the FIRE of the heart (the liver qi) - since the lung qi is WATER.... Gotcha!! But Fowler and Ewers took down their book? it's not on google anymore. Since alchemy is concerned in the first place with the inner lines of the trigrams Li [fire] and Kan [water], the paradox of reversal consists in considering Li as female, while logically it should be male because its Yang-masculine lines are predominant. Analogously, Kan should be female, but is considered to be male. "The Sun is Li and belongs to Yang, and instead it is a girl. The Moon is Kan and belongs to Yin, and instead it is a boy. This is the reversal" (Xiuzhen shishu , 26.27a.) Isabelle Robinet confirms my alchemical discovery So this paradox is completely explained as the lung/kidney and heart/liver and how they are reversals within each other, etc. Somebody on a forum gives a plug for this book: "Tai Chi Chuan, Harmonizing Taoist Beliefs and Practice, Jeaneane D. Fowler, and "Shifu" Keith Ewers (probably the one exception I made to my non martial sources position, mainly due to Fowler. Her work is some of the best and clearest on the subject of Taoist history.) http://www.leefamilyinternalarts.com/Keith Ewers.html http://www.goldenelixir.com/jindan/texts_wuzhen_pian_3.html So I word search for Liver and Lung - NOTHING!! Hilarious We get more secrets in the commentaries. therefore the full moon illustrates the symbolic "time" by which the collection of True Yang should happen. So the metal energy is strongest at full moon - which is why Gabriel Cousens advocates fasting during full moons..... The symbolic "pound" of Elixir, therefore, is made of eight ounces of Lead and eight ounces of Mercury. So we now know the "lead' is from the liver qi that has descended. The mercury is from the lung qi.... Wow this is amazing that the Daoist alchemy texts now make sense to me!! https://www.scribd.com/document/155949681/Komjathy-Louis-Cultivating-Perfection-Mysticism-and-Self-Transformation-in-Early-Quanzhen-Daoism So I used the scribd conversion tool over on the ecoecho blog - and then get corroboration: There we go - a real INternal Arts ALCHEMY lineage!! the Heart is considered to be the son of the Liver and the mother of the Spleen within traditional Chinese medicine the Heart is known as the emperor of all the internal organs (Zangfu). https://lfiaa.wordpress.com/ Firstly let me explain what is meant by “Taming the Dragon & Tiger”. Within Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) they consider the Qi (energy) inside of us as (Yin) and corresponds to the Dragon (Long), whereas the Blood or Fire (Huo) that circulates inside us is considered to be (Yang) and corresponds to the Tiger (Hu). So the heading “Taming the Dragon & Tiger” Fascinating.... The Taiji Pole is a central line that runs from the crown of the head at the (Bai Hui) “Hundred Meetings Du 20” directly through the centre of the body to the (Hui Yin) “Meeting of Yin Ren 1” located between the legs. The Taiji Pole is made up of three major energy vessels the Governing Vessel (Du Mai) which travels up the length of the back through the spinal column where it connects to the Conception Vessel (Ren Mai) that travels down the front of the body. The third major vessels is the Thrusting Vessel ( Chong Mai) which does travel through the Taiji Pole. Each of these three major energy vessels store the vital energy (Qi) and circulate it throughout the entire body through the Yin & Yang meridians which are connected to the internal organs (Zangfu). Taiji is Neigong One such aspect is to allow the breath to expand into the back muscles like the Lattissimus Dorsi muscle on either side of the back, when the student performs any of the Taiji Qigong exercise where the both arms are lifted together or in a singular method above the head the back muscles will come into play and with the intention of breathing deeply into the lungs like filling a balloon. O.K. Finally - after speeding reading his blog.... As the Original Feng Shou Quan-Gongfu has its origins within Daoism, then it is obvious that this internal martial art (Neijiaquan) involves all of the Daoist symbolises to help give the practitioner a better understanding and knowledge on how best to skilfully use this internal martial art for both health, energy cultivation and self defence. The symbolism of the “Cloud Dragon and Wind Tiger” is just another repensentation of Yin & Yang, as the Cloud Dragon (Yun Long) represents the receptive or (Yin) energy and the Wind Tiger ( Feng Hu) represent the creative or (Yang) energy.

I had half a dozen direct messages asking me for more research leads - and so my new blog is http://elixirfield.blogspot.com Ancient Advanced Acoustic Alchemy: Free Book now Online https://www.docdroid.net/LbJGgG2/ancient-advanced-acoustic-alchemy.pdf I have had several new confirmations of my research. Math professor Toni Torietti in Italy did a multicultural music math book and so the small universe meditation is the same basis as the 12 notes music scale in ancient China - with the notes as yin and yang reversing for each note. So it's not the same as just the Perfect Fifth in one direction of the infinite spiral and the Perfect fourth in the other direction. The key secret is then - Plato defined fire in the Pythagorean Tetraktys as the top element of alchemy but actually it is Air - and so in China, India and ancient West Asia - the secret is to put the Fire into Earth as 8/12 or 2/3 subharmonic (down the front) and this turns the Water into Air or 9/6 or 3/2 harmonic as the reversal in time. So I have detailed exactly how this got covered up with Plato promoting irrational magnitude from Philolaus flipping his Lyre around - to turn noncommutative phase harmonics into symmetric irrational magnitude. And so the 1 was not a number since it was light with spacetime as the hidden momentum of light - or superluminal "yin matter" as it's called in qigong. But for Philolaus, Archytas and Plato this got changed to a materialist X so that X squared = 2 and then X = the Devil's Interval as tritone and so each harmonic is the 12th root of X defined by geometric magnitude. And so what this really means is that the "1" changes in value as the fundamental pitch since Philolaus had to flip his lyre around - so that 0 to 12 are the nodes in one direction with 8/12 as 2/3 wavelength for 3/2 harmonic and then 0 to 8 is the 2nd root tonic as 1 for 6/8 as 3/4 wavelength with 4/3 as the frequency. But to convert it to geometric magnitude so that Perfect Fifth plus Perfect Fourth = Octave then 12/8 plus 8/6 = 2 with the harmonics now as geometric magnitude in the reverse direction of time/frequency. O.K. so then in India this is also based on the 12 months as music harmonics of the three gunas - with Nada as the nondualism of unstruck sound that creates BOTH Shiva and Shakti - from this noncommutative phase. Philolaus describes the source of the 1 (light) as both odd-even and yet it is Harmonia as female formless awareness. This is the Tiger energy of Shiva - the OM source of Light - the Ether-Fire as Jnana of the Light. There is also the "counter-fire" in Pythagorean training that is really the Hades Lower Tan t'ien as the sub lunar energy - and then it accesses the Hearth or Hestia as the Void that breathes Fire as Time reversing - as the odd-even at the same time - noncommutative phase secret of the Ancients. So for the Pythagoreans - it is Dionysus who represents this Underworld Counterfire trip to Hades - which is the Incubation meditation that is part of the older Matrifocal farm tradition - before the Yamnaya chariot invasions. So Dionysus represents the Pan Pipe tradition that was how the Pythagorean alchemical music tuning was done in China - because each pipe is defined by the previous one as an inversion of Yin and Yang - and so there is no paradox of a wavelength being longer than the root tonic wavelength - so that the octave can be evenly divided by geometric magnitude. The ancients never tried to evenly divide the octave since they knew that the Root Tonic was actually the Lunar psychic energy of the pineal gland!! So I discovered that in China - the root tonic was defined as the 1 but also the 81 months then multiplied by 19 solar years to get 128.5 as the Pythagorean Comma between the Perfect Fifths and Octaves. And so this is the alchemical secret of how the lunar energy has to first be built up into the counter-fire as the Lower Tan T'ien - so that the Tai Chi can be experienced. I have all the details in an easy to read book format. So now spin 1/2 phonon as sound waves are being used to develop room temperature superconducting macroquantum computer - which completely corroborates the precise same mathematical model I discovered from music theory as ancient alchemy. Ancient Advanced Acoustic Alchemy 2018 book Table of Contents Chapter One: The Paradox of Pythagorean Paranormal Pan Pipes As Ancient Mystic Music Alchemy pp 3 - 9 Chapter Two: Microcosmic Orbit, Kriya Yoga and Pythagorean Tetraktys as Music Harmonics of ancient advanced global alchemy pp. 10 – 29 Chapter Three: The Idiot’s Guide to Taoist Alchemy Qigong, Enlightenment, Neidan, Nei Kung, Neigong training for males pp. 30-176 Chapter Four: The Blue Light of Blues Music: Quantum Biology, Metaphysics and Meditation pp. 177-398 Chapter Five: Cracking the Cosmic Mother Ostrich Egg Omphalos Female Formless Awareness Alchemy secret revealed pp. 399 – 419 Conclusion: CONCLUSION: The OZ EFFECT: The Strange Fate of the EMDrive: Sonofusion Acoustic power and Metamaterials pp. 420-426

So the teacher, the qigong master I took classes from, http://springforestqigong.com shared how when he was in deep meditation, Lao Tzu physically touched his head and appeared. I had difficultly believing this - but now I learn that Qingchengshan where this happened, is also where Lao Tzu was deified. So this was by Zhang - the Zhang lineage - that http://qigongmaster.com is part of Zhang, Yuanming. He, Zhang, Yuangming did a presentation to a 2017 class at Cornell University. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjR3bLVxbfVAhXhq1QKHUX0BiEQFghBMAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhistory.cornell.edu%2Fsites%2Fhistory%2Ffiles%2FHIST%202209%20syllabus%20Spring%202017.pdf&usg=AFQjCNG_-shNP7yhm4DtXVRPHymGXsUwnw pdf link of their syllabus. There is also this fascinating pdf https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=15&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwinq-Hit7fVAhUpqVQKHU9BCzcQFghmMA4&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhal.archives-ouvertes.fr%2Fhal-00092556%2Fdocument&usg=AFQjCNElwekbQHQSSVGlR7LogP59YlPhQA Bureaucratic Charisma: The Zhang Heavenly Master Institution and Court Taoists in Late-Qing China And now this 2016 book: http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737167&content=toc http://earlychinasinology.blogspot.com/2016/07/celestial-masters-history-and-ritual-in.html Bills itself as the first book in the West devoted to the founding of the Taoist religion. A big part of this training then is exorcising ghosts and also controlling and predicting the weather. These are both things that the Chinese qigong master has referred to. So his practices and experiences make much more sense in this context. And so the current "titular" Celestial Master priest is based on the Zhang lineage - but it's a matter of dispute. http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/local/nantou/2009/05/12/207745/new-taoist.htm Yet Zhang Yuanming claims lineage and is a true qigong (insert fancy Chinese term like neidan, etc.) master. http://www.martialtalk.com/forums/chinese-internal-arts-taijiquan-tai-chi-and-qi.54/ Someone should compile a list of forums discussing qigong, tai chi, neigong, neidan, etc. There's that site, kungfuforum I think - rum soaked fist forum, that's three plus here. Kungfu magazine forum. that's 5. https://books.google.com/books?id=yQo1DQAAQBAJ&pg=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=Zhang+Yuanxian&source=bl&ots=imgmR5sHN8&sig=B_yKAQazJPDVWhE1sIE-4NRmsAA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjspfTrx7fVAhUkrlQKHb9sBDsQ6AEISzAI#v=onepage&q=Zhang Yuanxian&f=false So the Celestial Masters as the Zhang lineage had a monopoly on certain talismans and exorcism rituals. That book discusses what happened in the modern era - and if the Zhang Celestial Master is a true saint or not. Making Saints in Modern China edited by David Ownby, Zhe Ji Zhang was dubbed by Westerners, "The Taoist Pope" which is more an attempt to denigrate Catholicism by protestants - https://books.google.com/books?id=qt-5CY9IH8gC&pg=PA374&lpg=PA374&dq=Zhang+Yuanxian&source=bl&ots=w77uJ68p7G&sig=iZNDZEnPhq-kXE3kWczbOd2UkN0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjspfTrx7fVAhUkrlQKHb9sBDsQ6AEIUDAK#v=onepage&q=Zhang&f=false But as this book points out - the Taoist priests as Zhengyi under Celestial Masters are considered to be serious scholars and influenced the WEstern study of Taoism. http://inrejects.talk-forums.com/t965-taoist-pope-zhang-daoling-ii-saved-us-all https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_the_Celestial_Masters No mention of Qing Cheng Shan on the wiki page. Just shows Wiki on spiritual paranormal topics is woefully biased: http://www.san-shin.org/China-Qingchengshan.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiang'er This is the main surviving original text of the Celestial Masters. So this commentary is discussed in a pdf https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj49dju0LfVAhXC0FQKHZG5AaMQFghEMAg&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscholar.harvard.edu%2Ffiles%2Fpuett%2Ffiles%2Fpuett_forming_spirits.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHm0legoxALlj_ilnrJJ2jPe8CHXg Essence or jing needs to be "congealed" and condensed in order to form and feed our spirits via qi energy. So when the spirits are complete then qi appears and takes the spirits to the Great Yin. This is like a fake death and in the Great Yin then the bodies or forms are restored and refined, enabling longevity and immortality. So the Vincent Goossaert article on the Celestial Masters goes into more details. The Emperor insisted that rain be made in 10 days or else Taoism would be destroyed, during the late Qing. Fortunately rain happened in 5 days. One of the key points that Goossaert emphasizes is that the Celestial Master Zhang lineage imposed taxes and fees to the lower level Taoist priests and for services. By paying these fees and taxes local Taoists gained legitimacy in their local communities. So we can see a parallel here to qigong societies today - charging fees for certifications from teachings, and fees for healings, etc. It has an ancient history in China via the Celestial Masters! https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiOrcqz27fVAhXGi1QKHbGzBUMQFgguMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-brs.ub.ruhr-uni-bochum.de%2Fnetahtml%2FHSS%2FDiss%2FKupferKristin%2Fdiss.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEPJL03jMtA_MLKW6u0AMP3TlOfGA 2009 pdf on religious qigong movements linked to Taoism after 1978 in China.

https://www.thedaobums.com/profile/3-sean/ So since this member joined a few years before the website was officially registered and he has the same name as the owner of the site and he says he's an Httl programmer - and does programming to the site - I thought this was Sean.... who is named on the site - he went by his full name. Anyway so this must be the owner's profile.

needs to get those ankles up on the thighs.

TaoBums | flux 64 https://flux64.wordpress.com/2006/12/20/taobums/ TaoBums was created and is maintained by Sean Omlor. That must have been before advertising.

Superficial advice on Sexual practice in POB - The Dao Bums https://www.thedaobums.com/.../3923-superficial-advice-on-sexual-practice-in-pob/?...

So Sean Denty didn't start the website? O.K. care to elaborate? Or Denty did start it but is not the owner any more? I started posted in this site at least ten years ago. haha. I know there's a whole forum devoted to rules and regulations (just like any real "free market"). But does it need to be so secretive? The site runs on ads. O.K. consider the Rum Soaked Fist Forum - it was started out of some spat with the owner of a previous website - and something about the original owner started up the new one while the 2nd owner stole the first website as some kind of spin off, etc. Everyone knows that history who posts on that site. When someone says "owner" I assume they are making money of this site. Is that a safe assumption? It's someone's business - this website?

I'll ask my question again - who are the "Owners" - I know they are the "admin" and not the "mods" - but how many "owners" are they and are they making money off this site? Sitting back and laughing all the way to the bank. haha. Sean Denty is one. Trunk is the other? p.s. this is a question for anyone who knows - I asked it before as a general question but never got an answer.

I quoted it before - from Paul Dong's book. Let's see - it should be online - hold.... https://issuu.com/exopolitics/docs/china_s_super_psychics_by_paul_dong It's in there - chapter 7 - "the first psychic war between China and Japan" - p. 121 free read.

It is as your "warrior" phrase, "I'll help you if I can, I'll kill you if I must." So are Westerners really "helping" people or even "helping" Nature for that matter? We can say there are more people on the planet since the spread of Western imperialism but biomass is not the same as biodiversity. For example in terms of biomass there are still more ants than humans on the planet - ants have greater biomass and so still dominate the earth. Ants practice eusociality - just as humans do - which is to say we make a "nest" - and then have multiple generations living and staying in the nest to help raise the young. This is detailed by E.O. Wilson's book The Social Conquest of Nature. But Wilson is very clear that industrial civilization is not helping out as a whole and says we need to set aside - I think he said 25% of our land on the planet and the oceans as ecological reserves for wildlife. Obviously that is not happening. I first read E.O. Wilson while studying conservation biology in Costa Rica in 1992 for a college semester. So the thing is can we "kill" Nature if we "must"? Apparently the warriors are trying to do that but obviously it is ridiculous. The mushrooms thrive on nuclear radiation so they will survive what is happening on the planet with the 450 nuke plants leaking tritium and the various nuclear weapon accidents and depleted uranium, etc. Just uranium mining itself is an atrocity and so environmental racism tries to hide the pollution of the Western warriors, etc. I have a feeling that the indigenous cultures - the supposed poor people who supposedly need the "help" of the West were doing much better before genocidal colonialism spread around the world. haha. No - I would say that Nature or the Emptiness helps us and we can never kill Nature or the Emptiness. For example qigong master Yan Xin was challenged by the top Japanese qigong master to a martial arts duel. The top Japanese qigong master was unbeat and so sent all his qi energy to attack Yan Xin. So what did Yan Xin do? He just immediately emptied out all the qi energy attacking him and sent it into the Emptiness. He didn't have to kill anyone since the person attacking him was using their ego - whereas he relied on the Emptiness to help him out. haha. That is the secret of "Unconditional love."