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On another forum - someone posted from my deleted blog. on "Turning the light around" and Damo Mitchell: The Alchemical Secret of De Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony: Heavenly Streams Damo Mitchell Neigong -by drew hempel ".....So the thing is that for a black hole time is infinite as frequency goes to zero with the energy sucked into this breaking down of three dimensional spacetime. For a white hole time is zero as frequency is infinite but the spacetime is reversed 180 degrees. Because quantum physics based on the Law of Pythagoras is the foundation of reality then, as Stephen Hawking has declared recently, there is no logarithmic singularity to black holes - instead the information gets apparently scrambled. Hawking said you would have to be able to "predict the future" to know how the information turns out for the white hole energy. But in alchemy that is precisely what happens because alchemy works as complementary opposites of time and frequency so that zero time is the Emptiness with infinite frequency as the shen energy. When the shen energy is very strong, like a laser that circles in on it self as gamma rays, it creates new time as new matter - wavelength and momentum. So this can not be modeled directly by Western science because quantum entanglement is noncommutative - it's also based on the complementary opposites of time and frequency. So the direction in spacetime changes the value of the time and the frequency. So as space expands from a longer "measuring" time then the matter as quantum entanglement energy diverges from the classical matter trajectory. The electrons or photons, etc. stay entangled from their own perspective of the Emptiness but in terms of the classical external measurement there has been a "collapse" of the quantum entanglement into a trajectory that is not the same as the entanglement. So we can say from the perspective of alchemy that Time is the Emptiness and Frequency is the Shen while Wavelength is the Jing and Momentum is the Qi. The "yuan qi" is then the momentum as phase velocity that is the speed of light squared. The complementary opposites of time and frequency then reverse the entropy of jing and qi. If the light as shen or frequency is turned around then time is also turned around and you get negentropy instead of entropy. Jing is time as entropy but it can be turned around to change fate. This is the secret of putting the shen or frequency as the reverse direction to wavelength or jing as physical time. The result is the infinite quantum entanglement as the speed of light squared - the light turning itself around to create the phase velocity of speed of light squared as the "pilot wave." It's a very simple equation that explains alchemy and Western science - Shen is to Emptiness as Qi is to Jing or Frequency is to Time as Momentum is to Wavelength. Here's how I described it last December: Yang shen is actually a spacetime transformation of a black hole into a white hole. Think of gamma radiation - you resonate gamma radiation and it creates physical matter. The zero-point energy is creating "virtual photons" all the time - these virtual photons are black hole photons. But the gamma radiation as virtual photons can be "captured" as information within this spacetime - you are turning the black hole into a white hole. Since that radiation is now captured (through meditation) it then actually creates new matter as new atoms - it goes from infinite frequency as energy and zero time - into a slower frequency with actual time - which is to say it has a finite momentum with actual wavelength - it is in other words "matter." That energy comes from pure information of your soul - and so the deepest level of information of our soul creates a perfect new body as our perfect physical body when our "yuan jing" energy was completely purified during celibacy and the growth of our physical bodies. That process can create multiple "yang shen" bodies - but the final process is to return back to the original black hole source of the energy which is just stored up potential virtual photon energy. It will transform again in a different spacetime. that's why people can have visions of the future - because our current physical body is actually a deep holographic projection of infinite energy and zero time - anything existing in 3D spacetime is just a temporary manifestation of the infinite potential energy. So in relativistic terms - the yang shen bodies are then slight alterations of 3D spacetime - witnessed by different people in different locations, etc. but all of our 3D spacetime experiences are manifestations of this impersonal infinite potential energy in zero time - called "Yuan Qi" since we can not see this energy and it is formless. You can study the final chapter of Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality for more details."

On the first question - I just read this blog post by someone who had joined this forum a year or two ago but left fairly soon I think - he didn't post much. I could see why. He critiques Damo Mitchell here https://crankydaoist.wordpress.com/2014/01/ In terms of your question - there was a huge debate/discussion about this topic and it relates to what Kevin Wallbridge in that blog post is raising - but to give specific examples - I recommend reading the book that has won awards - David A. Palmer, "Qigong Fever." So I mentioned to you before Zhong Gong training at Qingchengshan - but Zhong Gong was part of the qigong fever of the 1980s - despite the advanced training being neidan cave meditation a la Dragon Gate. http://qigongmaster.com is part of the Dragon Gate lineage but calls it qigong and again Zhang, Yuanming is an advanced neidan master. Also - Yan Xin, who was a top Shaolin alchemy master, was called a qigong master. So for example when Yan Xin did healing in China often the crowd meditating could not understand his lecture - he spoke a different dialect. But that didn't matter as it was the energy of his words that had the effect and the intention of the people meditating. So Yan Xin called it a "virtual information" field which is to say a reverse time or negative mass field - it is "preheaven" energy as with these other qigong masters I have mentioned. Now obviously there are many people on this forum who adamantly insist that hearing the term "qigong" means false or deviation. haha. So that is the end of discussion for those people. And as Kevin Wallbridge, with his extensive training in China - he, in that blog post, basically explains why this "neidan" or "neigong" suddenly became the favored term, etc. Another example might be that the Chinese government cracked down on qigong except the few chosen schools. So it's not that Damo Mitchell is wrong but just that something called qigong does not mean it is not neidan, etc. We can't just rely on semantics. Anyway on the second question - I did a blog post on this that I deleted but I was basically agreeing with another blog post that someone posted - I'll find it again. http://atouchofancientszhouyi.blogspot.com/2014/10/a-study-of-ancient-way-tao-circulation.html I think that is it.... yeah - that's it. So if you study the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book it states to start with you want to see light in the center of the brain. But then it states that most people can not do this because their heart is not pure and so therefore the small universe meditation has to be practiced with celibacy. So what that really means is that the heart is the source of the light but upon puberty the conscious left brain takes over and the qi has separated from the shen - and so most people are no longer pure enough. So in alchemy not only is the light "turned around" by stopping the loss of spirit going out of the eyes (2/3rds of the brain's energy is from this eye energy) but also the heart spirit is the fire that has to be put under the water to restore the qi energy. So the problem is that just visualizing is not enough since only the Quick Fire breathing has the power to raise the water up above the fire - and that is the key secret - for the alchemy. There is both a raising up of water and a lowering of fire in order to "turn the light around." My pdf has more details.

This is a very good response but requires an indepth analysis. For example if you study Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book - the influence of Buddhism and also Confucian terminology causes a deeper analysis to be required. So the "innate nature" as Xing is actually the Yuan Shen that also is the left eye. But the left eye is also the liver energy as the Hun Soul - which is also the yin qi energy as the Green Dragon. So if you study the book what you realize is that until the lower tan tien is filled up then the eyes are not united as Sun and Moon but instead are in the jing or yin qi stage of Dragon and Tiger. In other words you lose energy out of the eyes as yin qi energy and in fact the Hun Soul - as that book details - is actually still the yin qi energy that leaves the skull with the heart shen at death (for the typical person). Whereas the po soul is the etheric energy of the body as the passion white tiger lung energy of the right eye that is the origin of the yuan qi - again only after the energy is built up. So the problem is the West fixates on the concept of "oneness" as if it is a static nondual Emptiness whereas the truth is there is eternal movement of time as formless awareness - as the Yuan Qi energy. The end of the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and immortality book details how the yang shen body then is vaporized back into the formless awareness of the Universe as the Yuan Qi. So then we are told that the Golden Body yang shen can reappear whenever needed - as chosen by the Yuan Qi - not by the actual immortal person. The ego is the spiritual awareness as light consciousness while the Universal consciousness is light - only when it is "turned around." So we can see this in cosmology as well - there is a 5th dimension that is time-like but is actually nonlocal phase - noncommutative phase. This means being in two places at the same time. So consider the Yang Shen - it is said multiple yang shens can be created - and even the Yuan Shen healing - the qigong master states how he can do healing around the world of multiple people - at the same time. But is it really at the same time? I saw him creating Yuan Shen but they were made one after the other, each breaking off from the top of his head - while he was in full lotus meditation. But for the person with the light turned around into the Emptiness then light itself does not experience time. The qigong master who befriended me describes how time freezes. This in quantum physics is true - when time is zero then there is the nonlocal entanglement. So with no measurement made by the ego as light perception - the nonlocal light is a wave that is quantum entanglement - as the 5th dimension. But when the measurement is made then the light collapses as a "photon" point that is seen to be contained as form externally. Similarly Ramana Maharshi says the whole physical universe does not exist when the Self as light is so great that the whole physical universe can not be seen nor experienced. So he gives the metaphor of a film camera as our brain - we need ignorance to see the film of the Universe as our awake consciousness. But in fact the camera relies on the light of the individual soul and yet that light is part of a much brighter light of the real formless awareness. Ramana Maharshi points out that the formless awareness as Self is NOT light - and yet we have to use our "sattvic" ego mind as spirit to go into the Emptiness and therefore in the Emptiness we still experience this bright light. So he admits this is a logical paradox that he can't get around - and that is why so many confuse the "light" as being the Self when that is not the truth. The light has a hidden momentum when the light is turned around - Ramana Maharshi calls this the ETHER of the flame of the Self. He says it's like looking at a candle - you see that space between the flame and the candle and that is the ETHER energy of the self that powers the candle, just as the wax powers the light. So this is the Yuan Qi energy that is formless awareness but because it is noncommutative phase it is also in eternal motion as creation of yuan jing and yuan shen - and so there is endless creation and destruction. You can experience this also by taking strong ayahuasca. haha. We can say the Soul then is all our past lives but yet these past live connections are probably contextual. So then just like in the Tibetan book of the Dead - after each death there is a better chance of seeing the illusion of the soul in order to go into the Emptiness as the truth of reality. So in other words - the Yuan Shen is our individualized spirit of when the Yuan Jing is developed - so at age 16 is what is said - and so the qigong master does Yuan Shen healing from the Yuan Qi emptiness. So the qigong master also heals ghosts - meaning they are the Hun Shen with Po Shen blockages and so stuck on Earth - and he sends this ghosts into the Emptiness by increasing their light - which means by realizing their Yuan Shen self - just as he does Yuan Shen healing of people alive as well.

I don't want to rain on this science parade - but as much as people want to study science (as I have done intensively) we need to be not in denial about the empirical facts. https://guymcpherson.com/2017/02/faster-than-expected/ The math of science is logarithmic exponentials since Plato and Archytas as the Greek Miracle. The technology of science is based on the math and the energy use increases exponentially along with population growth. This basic fact is covered up by all the science promotion propaganda we are buried in. People of advanced meditation level are very rare. For example science has now proven that most Tibetan monks in India have the ulcer disease from bacteria. In other words their meditation is not strong enough to kill the bacteria giving them ulcers. Now that is understandable as the Tibetan monk training in India requires Ph.D. level of book study first before serious meditation. But also consider that these Tibetan monks did not have the ulcer - in Tibet - they got the ulcer in India because the bacteria is from the wheat-based monoculture farming. Tibet relied on barley but when the chinese invaded Tibet they insisted on rice farming instead of barley - or maybe it was wheat farming - regardless they ignore the local ecology of grain adaptation. The British did the same in Bangladesh where Jute farming was the main crop but the British insisted instead rice be grown for export. are exceptions. But these

You have some good science research but the problem is the studies are limited by the skill level of the meditation being studied. So for example Herbert Benson at Harvard studied tummo yogis in the Himalayas who slept over night in below freezing temperatures - outside on a cliff with thin-bare clothing - and yet never were shivering. So real enlightenment is a full body-mind transformation - and Western science technology is too limited to test it. Another example is a biophoton study of a qigong master - and her biophoton readings were much higher than the other people testing - and she could control the biophoton emission level when she visualized her energy outsider herself, etc. But these studies taken out of context are difficult to determine what they mean in terms of training for enlightenment, etc. I made a pdf of many science studies for the enlightenment training - it draws from both Chinese and Indian meditation sources as well as African. thanks - https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/04/10/idiot-s-guide-to-taoist-alchemy/ so that's a free pdf link - lots of images, etc.

A thread riddled with New Age problems - on the Mayans being thugs - this continues into the thuggish culture of Central America today. When we say Mayans were thugs - we mean "late Mayan" culture. When we say thugs we mean ejaculation addiction that spikes cortisol and dopamine as violence - a positive feedback cycle. Mayan culture has been promoted in the New Age scene but the academic analysis now confirms the truth - Late Mayan culture was based on pederasty. The Politicization of Pederasty among the Colonial Yucatecan Maya https://www.jstor.org/stable/3704486 by P Sigal - ‎1997 - ‎Cited by 15 - ‎Related articles ruled Yucatan, I connect homosexual and pederastic desires men in the documents with colonial politics and Mayan traditions. Th ticle, largely based on a new ... Infamous Desire: Male Homosexuality in Colonial Latin America https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0226757048 Pete Sigal - 2003 - ‎Social Science I, of course, do not mean to suggest that the Maya of the colonial period are writing an ... political rituals in an earlier article (“The Politicization of Pederasty”). 38. And so then the reference to Zecharia Sitchin also needs to be debunked - to take his research "with a grain of salt" is an understatement. The dude is a fraud as the website http://sitchiniswrong.com details. The CIA New Age Freemason community assimilated Mayan culture to promote it - along with Egyptian and Sumerian - as New Age Solar Dynasty pyramid priest propaganda. But Martin Pretchel's book Secrets of the Talking Jaguar did preserve not the late Mayan Solar priest pederasty imperialism - but instead the older village Mayan shamanism based on complementary opposites of Lunar-Solar energy, just like Taoism. This is why technofeminists who think they can control male ejaculation and thus promote transgender homosexuality, etc. as liberation - think that Martin Pretchel's book is misogynist since it relies on female essentialism. The fact is the female is synchronized as a group primate culture with the lunar cycle - precisely - via the pineal gland. So dreams can be revealing - as yes it was the female principle that was sacrificed - the same happened in Inca culture, as an anthropologist exposed - about the earlier Lunar female shamanism of south american being taken over by the technofeminist Inca Solar females. Moon, Sun, and Witches: Gender Ideologies and Class in Inca and ... https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0691022585 Irene Marsha Silverblatt - 1987 - ‎History Gender Ideologies and Class in Inca and Colonial Peru Irene Marsha ... The Moon, as supreme goddess of the Incas, reigned over all other female divinities. ... and the colonial accounts of lunar cults might reflect pre-Inca worship of this deity.

This is a crucial key secret in the training - what Zong Gong calls the "golden key" of "yin matter" that is superluminal. I saw http://springforestqigong.com in full lotus making individualized spirits to heal each person - they formed on the top of his head - shaped as a human - each breaking off and floating out to heal a person. This is from the full lotus meditation embodying the Emptiness. At this stage also ghosts as yin shen go to get healed by the qigong master. So Yuan Shen are individualized to each person in their body - but as Yan Xin did his healing - the person needs to have sympathetic resonance by turning their own light around to go into the Emptiness as a "virtual information" field as Yan Xin called it. This is a spacetime vortex.

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You can understand the essential difference between Buddhism and Daoism from mathematics and music theory. Buddhism is based on the logic of "Neti, neti" and so is from Vedic philosophy - meaning, "neither this, nor that." The math of vedic philosophy is "divide and average" math. The spread of Vedic culture into China is actually quite ancient - from when the Shang making chariot culture as dominant for warfare. First chariots were just for the aristocrats but then chariots were amassed as huge armies. Key to chariot technology is to center the circle based on divide and average math from Vedic ritual geometry that math professor Abraham Seidenberg traced back to around 3000 BCE. The square rectilinear altars were the basis for making the circles the same area as well - so that the female lunar circle principle had to conform to the solar square altar principle. Similarly houses had to be rectilinear, not circular. You can then see how this Vedic culture as meditation alchemy training spread across Asia in Buddhist philosophy by studying Stupas. The Stupa designs reveal the elements of alchemy for meditation training. http://www.sacred-texts.com/cfu/choc/choc06.htm Consider this early analysis. Now then actually instead of "divide and average" math which is based on symmetric phonetic logic of the divine from rectilinear geometry - "I Am that I Am" as the definition of Brahman-God - for Taoism, the math is actually akin to the oldest philosophy of India which is the "three gunas." So the Tai Chi is actually from music theory - the number theory of Taoism is actually the same as the number theory of Pythagorean philosphy - and in turn the same as the three gunas - and this is also from music theory. So for the three gunas - sattva is the octave as 1:2 (Emptiness) and raga is the Perfect Fifth (yang) as 3/2 and sattva is yin as the Perfect Fourth. But the deeper meaning of this is called noncommutative phase - or nonlocal consciousness as being in two places at the same time. This was covered up by Western symmetric logic since Plato and Archytas - and so Westerners do not understand this difference. So in noncommutative phase - then the number value has two different geometric values at the same time - so C is 1 and the octave is 2 as C - but then 3 is F as subharmonic and 3 is G is overtone harmonic. That was covered up in the West so that 2/3 as C to F Perfect Fifth Yang is turned into 4/3 as Perfect Fourth yin. So in alchemy this is called the One Perfect Yang principle - or something to that effect - in music theory is means that internal listening converts the differences in frequency and amplitude into the nonlocal phase resonance - so that the yin energy is resonated into its Yuan Qi yang origin as the truth of reality. So for Western symmetric math the principle of the Greek Miracle was taken from divide and average math of Zoroastrian-Babylonian logic that is the complementary to Vedic logic. So then ARchytas knew that "arithmetic mean multiplied by harmonic mean equals geometric mean squared." This is how irrational magnitude was created from music theory. But for that symmetric math equation to work as algebra - it had to cover up the noncommutative phase truth. In other words - originally "harmonic mean" was actually "subcontrary mean" but the term got changed as the cover up - when 2/3 as the Perfect Fifth, C to F geometry was changed from the subcontrary or subharmonic to 4/3 as the Perfect Fourth C to F geometry for the harmonic mean. So for Archytas to create his equation for symmetric math of irrational magnitude - the harmonic mean had to have a value greater than 1 - with the numerator higher than denominator. Thereby hiding the older truth of nonlocal noncommutative phase that did not get rediscovered until quantum logic and quantum physics discovered a paradox for frequency and time with relativity of Einstein. There is a book called "From Pythagoras to Einstein" - all that does is expand the square root of two irrational magnitude symmetric math to relativity. But de Broglie realized that as energy goes up in frequency towards the speed of light in relativity then time slows down, so that wavelength gets bigger. That violates the fundamental principle of Pythagoras that time is inversely proportional to frequency. So de Broglie created the Law of Phase Harmony since quantum physics is true but to make it fit relativity it means there has to be a signal that is nonlocal and therefore superluminal. In terms of de Broglie - this means that Time is the Emptiness, and noncommutative phase is the Yuan Qi that is nonlocal - and frequency is the Shen that is "turned around" - so you get the speed of light squared as the Law of Phase Harmony - and the wavelength is the Jing energy. So when shen is put below jing then you get reverse entropy or negentropy as "quantum relative entropy" - the Emptiness is a reverse spacetime vortex that enables precognition, etc. So the older philosophy of the three gunas is actually the truth also of the Tai Chi - and both are from music theory that goes back to the original human culture - the San Bushmen that had the same alchemy training as Taoism and the three gunas of India. All human cultures in fact use the 1-4-5 music intervals as the Octave Perfect Fifth/Perfect Fourth as 1:2:3:4 harmonics. It is the simplest and yet the most powerful - as TAoism teaches. The number theory is real and is from music theory. I have the references in my pdf https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/04/10/idiot-s-guide-to-taoist-alchemy/ People argue endless about the real meaning of Buddhism vis a vis Vedic philosophy and Taoism but that is because they have not realized that music theory unlocks the universal truth of human spiritual training. By the way you can find these Stupa Vedic elements even in Burma as the pagoda alchemy training in Buddhism. So the alchemy training again is from the older Bronze Age chariot culture - but this in turn is from an older music theory based philosophy. The secret of OHM is infinite time-frequency resonance from the 1:2:3 octave perfect fifth/perfect fourth music intervals - called the Triguna - I have the details again in the link.

https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/04/10/idiot-s-guide-to-taoist-alchemy/ This has lots of images that will explain why you experienced extreme heat and what it means.

There is an excellent essay on the connection of philosophical Taoism to religious Neidan training - by Zhang Guangbao https://www.scribd.com/document/225213533/Taoism p. 183, originally published 2006, Beijing. Inner alchemy from philosophical Taoism. So he makes the very crucial insight that "yuan qi" actually is "jingqi" - and he cites the evidence for this. So just as I have argued in my pdf - the alchemy practice is the shen turned around so it is "below" the jing - thereby creating the qi - and this is the eternal process. He states indeed - this "jingqi" is the primordial cosmic yuanqi - from this process of the shen being contained internally along with the jing to bring out the qi energy. citing chapter 21 of Tao Te Ching. Now - he then states this is philosophy but not science. My pdf actually explains this is the hidden momentum of light when it is "turned around" as "heavy" light or quantum relativity light - the "noncommutative phase" as momentum that is not conserved. The light harvests the virtual imaginary mass particles as a reverse spacetime vortex energy - or quantum relative entropy - negentropy - the Emptiness as the jingqi or yuan qi.

http://qigongmaster.com is from the origin of Taoist alchemy training - Mt. Qingcheng There are various lineages from that locale - Zong gong had their training there but then got declared illegal. Wang Liping is from that same Dragon Gate lineage, etc. But still the academic analysis will not focus much on that training - the pdf I posted gives the training details. https://www.pdf-archive.com/2017/04/10/idiot-s-guide-to-taoist-alchemy/ Religion means "to bind" - yoga means "to yoke" - Taoist yoga - full lotus cave meditation for 49 days - no food, no sleep - people can argue about angels on pin heads and call it religion or just do the meditation full lotus training and not even call it religious. haha. Religion is a western term. Call it "neigong" - or "neidan" or whatever the latest Western marketing term is: Daoyin or alchemy, etc. But if you want a good academic overview - this free book Daoism in the Twentieth Century: Between Eternity and Modernity Author: Palmer, David A.; Liu, Xun Editor: Palmer, David A.; Liu, Xun Publication Date: 02-15-2012 - http://escholarship.org/uc/item/13w4k8d4#page-8 Daoism in the Twentieth Century

What exactly is the relationship between the Dao, Qi, and the Mind (xin 心)? Various Daoists have spoken of the "Daoxin" or the "Dao Mind" or have variations on the Chan-like phrase of "The Dao is the Mind and the Mind is the Dao." Yet Daoist cosmology has the empty Dao giving birth to or producing the One, typically seen as primordial undifferentiated qi prior to polarization into yin-yang. According to traditional Daoist teachings, where does Mind fit into this schema? Does qi, the spiritual-material substance of the universe, possess or subsist in Mind? From what I understand there is a connection between the purified or tranquil mind and qi, but what about on the macrocosmic or Absolute level? Furthermore, where does shen 神 or spirit, particularly the yangshen, fit in relation to the Dao, qi, and Mind? Edited 20 hours ago by Kongming This person has done a lot of detailed research, as you can see from their other posts, and so delves into a fine-tuned analysis here - this is very specifically the issue I have addressed in my "Idiot's Guide" pdf Notice usually people are quick to answer on thetaobums - as I have noted there are a handful of "chimps" who "territorially" slap down anyone who attempts to raise their energy frequency level. You get slapped down to left brain dominance with no real achievements on thetaobums - but this chimp crew that wanders the website territory. Since that left-brain dominance is the norm of society - then no one complains about being slapped down. I warned a recent new reader about this - and at first he didn't take me seriously. So he had read my research, then he quickly got very good results, and so he wanted more information. So at first he didn't read my research for more info but instead went to thetaobums to get feedback. They told him various logically fallacies like I am not a "real teacher" therefore don't read my research. haha. Since when does "real teacher" need to be attached to information to be read or not? Self-censorship always amazes me - I pointed that out to this person - since when is just reading my research mean they are in a cult? haha. So the person went on to keep reading my research but in the mean time they had "strayed" from the training I had pointed out before. This training is very difficult since as we raise the energy frequency - then people around us react strongly. The original qigong master said how people will be "attracted" to you - yes indeed! Then he said "even the same sex will be attracted to you" until you get the 2nd chakra opened up (i.e. the lower tan tien filled up). Now as I pointed out in a recent blog post - this is actually quite damning stuff about Western masculinity - because if the same sex is attracted to me - yet that male identifies himself as straight - you can see the psychological damnation the person quickly suffers internally. So then if the energy can be built up increasingly - then the issue is how to control the energy, etc. Now when I did my original training - I was lucky to be able to train intensively, and my diet had already been pure, and I was young and I had saved up energy pretty well until then. But it was when I attended the Level 3 retreat that I had my "enlightenment experience" - seeing ghosts, seeing the yuan shen healing light that the qigong master sends out to each individual student to heal them, also doing strong healing myself on others, and smelling cancer, and experiencing a spacetime vortex, etc. So recently when I went to my land up north - the small forest hermitage in the midst of hay farms and highway - haha - I had the Spring Forest Qigong Level 3 training manual with me. The funny thing is I had never read this new manual that had been created. When I took the course there was no manual - at first back in 2000 Fall - and then I took Level 3 again several times, as the original qigong master says it is easy for people to take the course for the information level but not necessarily is it easy to be ready on the energy level, to open the third eye. So as I read the manual - as it had been sitting in my car and I was waiting and so I finally just read the manual - for example there are case study healing stories that I had never read before! - and I realized there was new insights. This question asked in the OP from thetaobums is a Level 3 question. In the Level 3 manual the original qigong master discusses when is Universal Consciousness versus our individual consciousness in regards to the Tai Chi symbol. This Universal Consciousness as the Emptiness - the original qigong master also states that everything starts from yin qi and then builds up into the physical level. This is actually the "golden key" secret from Zhong Gong - as Zhong Gong uses the same reference to yin and yang being then the different speed, time and location of the qi energy to create individual physical form. And as per Zhong Gong the original "yin qi" is actually "yin matter" as superluminal or faster than light information healing - thought that is faster than the speed of light. So in fact this was a unique insight of Zhong Gong when the teacher also referred to Einstein and transcending Einstein with the original qigong master referring to Einstein the same way - that everything is energy and always will be energy eternally transforming. The question is transforming for the good or bad and so to transform for the good is to increase the frequency of the energy. So then in terms of science - the paradox arises already from relativity and it was de Broglie who originally discovered this contradiction from frequency and time in terms of Einstein's relativity - and so de Broglie realized there has to be a superluminal signal that guides the energy - and de Broglie called this the "Law of Phase Harmony." In fact it is "noncommutative phase" as the 5th dimension of space that is "time-like" and so it can only be logically inferred and not seen - as astrophysicist Paul S. Wesson detailed in his 2015 essays on de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony. So the Zhong Gong teaching was actually based on de Broglie's insights - in terms of Western science - but in reality from the real training of traditional Taoist alchemy meditation. Does qi, the spiritual-material substance of the universe, possess or subsist in Mind? So the answer to that first question is clearly YES! And this is the crucial key point since one of the main attacks against qigong practitioners is they think they are superheroes or claim to have super powers or Christianity points out that energy healing is satanic, and the power of the devil, etc. No - only the proper understanding of this energy from the Emptiness as God is the key - it is not the individual who does the healings. And so the Level 3 manual the points out - and this was emphasized in the 2013 Level 3 class I went to - a class I had attended only after a long break with my last Level 3 class attendance in 2005 - the qigong master said it is very common for when the third eye to be opened up that the person then overuses their psychic energy doing healing and then the person becomes fat, since they have to rely on physical food to restore their jing energy. What the Level 3 manual states is that only if a good foundation is developed and maintained - the jing energy of the lower tan tien - can then the third eye be properly opened with continued levels of enlightenment achieved - the ability to see inside your own body and other people's bodies, etc. So in India this is the difference between Shakti and Siddhis - and so the healing in Spring Forest Qigong has to be spiritual light healing that is impersonal - that resonates into the Emptiness as the information healing energy that is nonlocal or superluminal signal healing. From what I understand there is a connection between the purified or tranquil mind and qi, but what about on the macrocosmic or Absolute level? Furthermore, where does shen 神 or spirit, particularly the yangshen, fit in relation to the Dao, qi, and Mind? So again the Level 3 manual states that everything starts from yin qi energy and what this means is that that Wu Chi is now confirmed - the Mystic Valley or Aperture of the Female as the original formless awareness that is the Cosmic Mother - and can never be unveiled. In the SFQ symbol the Emptiness is then Green as the liver yin qi energy of the Universe - and also it is called Spring Forest based on the name of the healer but also on the fact of biodiversity and cultural diversity - that it takes a lot of different types of trees to make a healthy forest (not just a monoculture of the mind as Vandana Shiva identifies the problem of Western thinking and its subsequent genocidal development). And so we are taught in the Spring especially to eat lots of green food to purify the liver qi - to build up the wisdom yin qi frequency energy - and also to be in the forest a lot with lots of diversity and lots of green for our eyes to take in. As Gurdjieff emphasized, and yet was rarely understood in this regard, is that the Lunar yin qi energy or psychic energy of the lower tan tien first has to be built up - and this is true on a macro level as well. Alchemy training is based on the lunar energy just as much as the solar energy and hence the inherent green connection as the moon controls the water cycles on Earth, enabling green life to utilize the sun through chlorophyll photosynthesis that is now proven to be nonlocal - faster than the speed of light - in quantum biology. So left brain dominance is actually the lower frequency subconscious control - as the Kundabuffer of modern man - as Gurdjieff calls it the moving center and the instinctual center - and now science proves that for humans our auditory cortex is very close to our moving cortex. So our brain constantly tells us to move - as Dr. LLinas, author of "I of the Vortex" emphasizes - then our brain creates a virtual reality from this urge to move that is really left-brain dominant, right-hand dominant consciousness. So the other primates also have this left-brain/right-hand dominant consciousness going back to the torque of the Sun-Moon-Earth wobble or backwards precession causing global warming around 3 million years ago, and before that our hominin ancestors were just as much tree dwellers as savannah dwellers. And so only if we can transcend the moving center and instinctual centers that are normally subconscious can we then build up the jing kidney energy or yin qi energy enough - to build up the liver yin qi energy when then finally opens up the heart-third eye as the Yuan Qi of the formless awareness of the Universe as the Tai Chi. As I was reading the Level 3 manual I was also reviewing the first "qi-talk" that the qigong master who befriended me had given - again in 2013 This talk was very revealing in details about the experience of going into the Emptiness - he says that only when there is a spacetime transformation - when external time slows down and internally our consciousness goes into the light, seeing bright light and colors - that we go into the Emptiness. That this really is a black hole/white hole portal - that is beyond death - and that the West, modern males, lack real initiation during puberty found in nonwestern cultures. For example I discovered recently Brad Steiger's book on Indian Native Medicine healing. Indian Medicine Power Of course this is really indigenous native, not even "American" or "Indian" as Winona LaDuke points out - and her dad is featured in this book - Sun Bear. But again the key is that by age 12 the male goes on vision quest as fasting with just water - and the longer a person can hold out then the stronger their energy will be. Steiger's book points out that divination and reading a person's energy blockages - is not necessarily the same person who does the healing. That actually doing the healing requires more power and so a deeper level of meditation. Steiger's book also emphasizes that Silence is the key factor for the training - Silence in the forest or natural place as meditation. In science this is called "acoustic ecology" and now proven to be essentially unknown in the modern world - the whole planet Earth has been so attacked by modern civilization that there is no real "silence" left where biodiversity over billions of years has finely tuned the acoustic ecological niches as harmonic EcoEcho energy healing. And so now we now the key relation of Yangshen because if we build up the yin qi energy enough into the Yuan Qi level beyond death - then the light we experience actually transforms the jing or physical level - as a reverse spacetime healing vortex of the Emptiness. The book of another Minneapolis Tai Chi healer - Dr. psychologist Christina Donnell - Transcendent Dreaming - she goes into her yuan qi yang shen transformations that occur during her sleep. So for example precognition that I have experience many times - this assures us that in fact what we think of as physical reality while awake is - less real - then this Yangshen astral realm that is holographic and so transcends spacetime as an eternal dream vortex. But as Ramana Maharshi points out - this movie analogy means that normally our brains can only see the external world or the film while our brains (the camera) are in ignorance as darkness - the Ch'an Taoist monks jokingly called normal people then "tubs of dark tar" since we can not see inside our bodies, etc. As Yogananda described when his third eye fully opened - he instantly could see in 4 directions at the same time, just as the qigong master who befriended me calls it 4D vision - front, back, left and right at the same time. haha. So then it is realized that the Earth as a physical planet actually exists more like Solaris - in that Tarkovsky film based on the SF book - that Earth is a holographic dream in the cosmic mind of the formless awareness. The Level 3 book states if you just see clouds in your vision then your third eye needs to still build up more energy. But as I blogged recently - the brain can get fried! It feels like a laser in the brain as the shen energy is sent into the brain to open up the third eye. When I described this to the qigong master who befriended me - he said this energy is not sent externally from him but is actually my own Higher Self manifesting - in other words reality is truly nonlocal but we don't realize it. So then science has detailed how there is a hidden momentum to light - when light is "heavy" due not just to quantum energy but to quantum relativity - this is called quantum relative entropy or negentropy - as reverse spacetime vortex energy from spirit light. This is the "golden key" secret of the superluminal qi that starts out as yin qi - from the light being turned around in alchemy training - but when built up to the Yuan Qi level that accesses the formless awareness of the Universe - from the heart-third eye opening up. And this means again that the lower tan tien is the foundation but also the controlling will power that enables going into the Emptiness properly - to bypass the mind's fear of death. Obviously to talk about this stuff is sensitive - as I reread the qigong master's qi-talk he states he finally discovered the meaning of a favorite song of his - everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die. So then in terms of Yangshen - we have to return to the original mystery of the Dao as the Emptiness and what that means in terms of yin and yang. In fact, as my handle points out and as Eddie Oshins discovered - the nonlocal reality is "noncommutative phase" from quantum relativity - meaning being in two places at the same time - and this means as I have quoted in my pdf - that the One Unity of Yuan Qi as the Emptiness is inherently the shen below the jing - the shen is turned around as the Universal Consciousness (instead of our normal individual shen just going out of our eyes as the ego - and this includes the individual shen going out of our bodies as astral travel!!). The qigong master who befriended me calls this the "point of origination" that is beyond the normal yin-yang energy. Why? Because Yangshen energy is the conscious awareness of what is normally subconscious yin qi that is nonlocal. As the original qigong master states - everything starts from yin qi - and so the qigong master who befriended me emphasized - everyone wants to go to heaven but no body wants to die - so like Prince they jump off buildings or high speakers - and take drugs - etc. - everyone looking for that transcendence without doing the real alchemy initiation based on the yin-yang energy dynamics. When the yangshen is accessed as a real enlightenment experience via the Yuan Qi energy - this, as the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality details - causes confusion. Indeed great confusion about what this all means - the Universal Consciousness as the Emptiness versus the individual consciousness - how is the One different than the Emptiness as Wu Chi - and how does that create yin and yang as 2 and 3, etc? So I go into this more in the pdf - and I am glad to have been able to return to these subtle, fascinating and crucial issues, thanks to the question that had remained unanswered on thetaobums. In science this is explained as the entanglement of light in black holes - so that the information is stored in the black hole but scrambled when it leaves the black hole as white hole energy. This means there is infinite potential mass that is imaginary mass as the Yuan Qi energy as information - and so the light going into a black hole is emitted again but only as a scrambled singularity - called Hawking Radiation of black holes due to the inherent quantum foundation of reality. We used to think that black holes just sucked everything up - not true! But this Hawking Radiation is not the same as the white hole transformation of the information itself - which then turns into Yangshen energy. So we could say then that the yin shen as yin qi light is our subconscious experience of the virtual black holes of reality that we exist within - the micro quantum black holes that are the gateways to nonlocal reality - the 5th dimension. The light goes into a singularity of infinity as we go to sleep at night - into the Emptiness of our mind - but in fact if we can turn the light around then the mass of the black hole is also turned around. This is the secret of the alchemy training. Science has yet to discover "white holes" since science is limited to classical math of macro-level technology that depends on Fourier time-frequency uncertainty, a linear operator (of left-brain-right-hand technology). The normal Hawking Radiation is still at the yin qi subconscious level as the light gets sucked into the black hole along with the mass of normal 4D spacetime. This is why Yan Xin said his qigong healing is based on a "virtual information" field that is the "highest technology of all technologies." Yan Xin was creating Yuan Shen healing of people when people meditate to turn their light around, thereby creating sympathetic resonance with the Yuan Qi energy or the Emptiness that does the healing - this is what the qigong master who befriended me calls instantaneous healing - or even healing the past as a spacetime vortex through gravitons. That is the Yangshen white hole healing that also enables precognition. So the 5th dimension “The information is not stored in the interior of the black hole as one might expect, but in its boundary — the event horizon,” he said. Working with Cambridge Professor Malcolm Perry (who spoke afterward) and Harvard Professor Andrew Stromberg, Hawking formulated the idea that information is stored in the form of what are known as super translations. “The idea is the super translations are a hologram of the ingoing particles,” Hawking said. “Thus they contain all the information that would otherwise be lost.” It is noncommutative phase - a logical paradox that Eddie Oshins also discovered is the secret of Tai Chi Neigong alchemy Bagua training - macroquantum resonance energy. A white hole is a theoretical structure (none are known to exist, though they don’t violate any of the known laws of physics) that emit matter and energy, but cannot ever be reached from the outside. So in fact this is explained only through the fifth dimension as nonlocal noncommutative phase. Carlo Rovelli - black to white hole transformations in terms of Hawking Radiation

This person has done a lot of detailed research, as you can see from their other posts, and so delves into a fine-tuned analysis here - this is very specifically the issue I have addressed in my "Idiot's Guide" pdf Notice usually people are quick to answer on thetaobums - as I have noted there are a handful of "chimps" who "territorially" slap down anyone who attempts to raise their energy frequency level. You get slapped down to left brain dominance with no real achievements on thetaobums - but this chimp crew that wanders the website territory. Since that left-brain dominance is the norm of society - then no one complains about being slapped down. I warned a recent new reader about this - and at first he didn't take me seriously. So he had read my research, then he quickly got very good results, and so he wanted more information. So at first he didn't read my research for more info but instead went to thetaobums to get feedback. They told him various logically fallacies like I am not a "real teacher" therefore don't read my research. haha. Since when does "real teacher" need to be attached to information to be read or not? Self-censorship always amazes me - I pointed that out to this person - since when is just reading my research mean they are in a cult? haha. So the person went on to keep reading my research but in the mean time they had "strayed" from the training I had pointed out before. This training is very difficult since as we raise the energy frequency - then people around us react strongly. The original qigong master said how people will be "attracted" to you - yes indeed! Then he said "even the same sex will be attracted to you" until you get the 2nd chakra opened up (i.e. the lower tan tien filled up). Now as I pointed out in a recent blog post - this is actually quite damning stuff about Western masculinity - because if the same sex is attracted to me - yet that male identifies himself as straight - you can see the psychological damnation the person quickly suffers internally. So then if the energy can be built up increasingly - then the issue is how to control the energy, etc. Now when I did my original training - I was lucky to be able to train intensively, and my diet had already been pure, and I was young and I had saved up energy pretty well until then. But it was when I attended the Level 3 retreat that I had my "enlightenment experience" - seeing ghosts, seeing the yuan shen healing light that the qigong master sends out to each individual student to heal them, also doing strong healing myself on others, and smelling cancer, and experiencing a spacetime vortex, etc. So recently when I went to my land up north - the small forest hermitage in the midst of hay farms and highway - haha - I had the Spring Forest Qigong Level 3 training manual with me. The funny thing is I had never read this new manual that had been created. When I took the course there was no manual - at first back in 2000 Fall - and then I took Level 3 again several times, as the original qigong master says it is easy for people to take the course for the information level but not necessarily is it easy to be ready on the energy level, to open the third eye. So as I read the manual - as it had been sitting in my car and I was waiting and so I finally just read the manual - for example there are case study healing stories that I had never read before! - and I realized there was new insights. This question asked in the OP from thetaobums is a Level 3 question. In the Level 3 manual the original qigong master discusses when is Universal Consciousness versus our individual consciousness in regards to the Tai Chi symbol. This Universal Consciousness as the Emptiness - the original qigong master also states that everything starts from yin qi and then builds up into the physical level. This is actually the "golden key" secret from Zhong Gong - as Zhong Gong uses the same reference to yin and yang being then the different speed, time and location of the qi energy to create individual physical form. And as per Zhong Gong the original "yin qi" is actually "yin matter" as superluminal or faster than light information healing - thought that is faster than the speed of light. So in fact this was a unique insight of Zhong Gong when the teacher also referred to Einstein and transcending Einstein with the original qigong master referring to Einstein the same way - that everything is energy and always will be energy eternally transforming. The question is transforming for the good or bad and so to transform for the good is to increase the frequency of the energy. So then in terms of science - the paradox arises already from relativity and it was de Broglie who originally discovered this contradiction from frequency and time in terms of Einstein's relativity - and so de Broglie realized there has to be a superluminal signal that guides the energy - and de Broglie called this the "Law of Phase Harmony." In fact it is "noncommutative phase" as the 5th dimension of space that is "time-like" and so it can only be logically inferred and not seen - as astrophysicist Paul S. Wesson detailed in his 2015 essays on de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony. So the Zhong Gong teaching was actually based on de Broglie's insights - in terms of Western science - but in reality from the real training of traditional Taoist alchemy meditation. Does qi, the spiritual-material substance of the universe, possess or subsist in Mind? So the answer to that first question is clearly YES! And this is the crucial key point since one of the main attacks against qigong practitioners is they think they are superheroes or claim to have super powers or Christianity points out that energy healing is satanic, and the power of the devil, etc. No - only the proper understanding of this energy from the Emptiness as God is the key - it is not the individual who does the healings. And so the Level 3 manual the points out - and this was emphasized in the 2013 Level 3 class I went to - a class I had attended only after a long break with my last Level 3 class attendance in 2005 - the qigong master said it is very common for when the third eye to be opened up that the person then overuses their psychic energy doing healing and then the person becomes fat, since they have to rely on physical food to restore their jing energy. What the Level 3 manual states is that only if a good foundation is developed and maintained - the jing energy of the lower tan tien - can then the third eye be properly opened with continued levels of enlightenment achieved - the ability to see inside your own body and other people's bodies, etc. So in India this is the difference between Shakti and Siddhis - and so the healing in Spring Forest Qigong has to be spiritual light healing that is impersonal - that resonates into the Emptiness as the information healing energy that is nonlocal or superluminal signal healing. From what I understand there is a connection between the purified or tranquil mind and qi, but what about on the macrocosmic or Absolute level? Furthermore, where does shen 神 or spirit, particularly the yangshen, fit in relation to the Dao, qi, and Mind? So again the Level 3 manual states that everything starts from yin qi energy and what this means is that that Wu Chi is now confirmed - the Mystic Valley or Aperture of the Female as the original formless awareness that is the Cosmic Mother - and can never be unveiled. In the SFQ symbol the Emptiness is then Green as the liver yin qi energy of the Universe - and also it is called Spring Forest based on the name of the healer but also on the fact of biodiversity and cultural diversity - that it takes a lot of different types of trees to make a healthy forest (not just a monoculture of the mind as Vandana Shiva identifies the problem of Western thinking and its subsequent genocidal development). And so we are taught in the Spring especially to eat lots of green food to purify the liver qi - to build up the wisdom yin qi frequency energy - and also to be in the forest a lot with lots of diversity and lots of green for our eyes to take in. As Gurdjieff emphasized, and yet was rarely understood in this regard, is that the Lunar yin qi energy or psychic energy of the lower tan tien first has to be built up - and this is true on a macro level as well. Alchemy training is based on the lunar energy just as much as the solar energy and hence the inherent green connection as the moon controls the water cycles on Earth, enabling green life to utilize the sun through chlorophyll photosynthesis that is now proven to be nonlocal - faster than the speed of light - in quantum biology. So left brain dominance is actually the lower frequency subconscious control - as the Kundabuffer of modern man - as Gurdjieff calls it the moving center and the instinctual center - and now science proves that for humans our auditory cortex is very close to our moving cortex. So our brain constantly tells us to move - as Dr. LLinas, author of "I of the Vortex" emphasizes - then our brain creates a virtual reality from this urge to move that is really left-brain dominant, right-hand dominant consciousness. So the other primates also have this left-brain/right-hand dominant consciousness going back to the torque of the Sun-Moon-Earth wobble or backwards precession causing global warming around 3 million years ago, and before that our hominin ancestors were just as much tree dwellers as savannah dwellers. And so only if we can transcend the moving center and instinctual centers that are normally subconscious can we then build up the jing kidney energy or yin qi energy enough - to build up the liver yin qi energy when then finally opens up the heart-third eye as the Yuan Qi of the formless awareness of the Universe as the Tai Chi. As I was reading the Level 3 manual I was also reviewing the first "qi-talk" that the qigong master who befriended me had given - again in 2013 This talk was very revealing in details about the experience of going into the Emptiness - he says that only when there is a spacetime transformation - when external time slows down and internally our consciousness goes into the light, seeing bright light and colors - that we go into the Emptiness. That this really is a black hole/white hole portal - that is beyond death - and that the West, modern males, lack real initiation during puberty found in nonwestern cultures. For example I discovered recently Brad Steiger's book on Indian Native Medicine healing. Indian Medicine Power Of course this is really indigenous native, not even "American" or "Indian" as Winona LaDuke points out - and her dad is featured in this book - Sun Bear. But again the key is that by age 12 the male goes on vision quest as fasting with just water - and the longer a person can hold out then the stronger their energy will be. Steiger's book points out that divination and reading a person's energy blockages - is not necessarily the same person who does the healing. That actually doing the healing requires more power and so a deeper level of meditation. Steiger's book also emphasizes that Silence is the key factor for the training - Silence in the forest or natural place as meditation. In science this is called "acoustic ecology" and now proven to be essentially unknown in the modern world - the whole planet Earth has been so attacked by modern civilization that there is no real "silence" left where biodiversity over billions of years has finely tuned the acoustic ecological niches as harmonic EcoEcho energy healing. And so now we now the key relation of Yangshen because if we build up the yin qi energy enough into the Yuan Qi level beyond death - then the light we experience actually transforms the jing or physical level - as a reverse spacetime healing vortex of the Emptiness. The book of another Minneapolis Tai Chi healer - Dr. psychologist Christina Donnell - Transcendent Dreaming - she goes into her yuan qi yang shen transformations that occur during her sleep. So for example precognition that I have experience many times - this assures us that in fact what we think of as physical reality while awake is - less real - then this Yangshen astral realm that is holographic and so transcends spacetime as an eternal dream vortex. But as Ramana Maharshi points out - this movie analogy means that normally our brains can only see the external world or the film while our brains (the camera) are in ignorance as darkness - the Ch'an Taoist monks jokingly called normal people then "tubs of dark tar" since we can not see inside our bodies, etc. As Yogananda described when his third eye fully opened - he instantly could see in 4 directions at the same time, just as the qigong master who befriended me calls it 4D vision - front, back, left and right at the same time. haha. So then it is realized that the Earth as a physical planet actually exists more like Solaris - in that Tarkovsky film based on the SF book - that Earth is a holographic dream in the cosmic mind of the formless awareness. The Level 3 book states if you just see clouds in your vision then your third eye needs to still build up more energy. But as I blogged recently - the brain can get fried! It feels like a laser in the brain as the shen energy is sent into the brain to open up the third eye. When I described this to the qigong master who befriended me - he said this energy is not sent externally from him but is actually my own Higher Self manifesting - in other words reality is truly nonlocal but we don't realize it. So then science has detailed how there is a hidden momentum to light - when light is "heavy" due not just to quantum energy but to quantum relativity - this is called quantum relative entropy or negentropy - as reverse spacetime vortex energy from spirit light. This is the "golden key" secret of the superluminal qi that starts out as yin qi - from the light being turned around in alchemy training - but when built up to the Yuan Qi level that accesses the formless awareness of the Universe - from the heart-third eye opening up. And this means again that the lower tan tien is the foundation but also the controlling will power that enables going into the Emptiness properly - to bypass the mind's fear of death. Obviously to talk about this stuff is sensitive - as I reread the qigong master's qi-talk he states he finally discovered the meaning of a favorite song of his - everyone wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die. So then in terms of Yangshen - we have to return to the original mystery of the Dao as the Emptiness and what that means in terms of yin and yang. In fact, as my handle points out and as Eddie Oshins discovered - the nonlocal reality is "noncommutative phase" from quantum relativity - meaning being in two places at the same time - and this means as I have quoted in my pdf - that the One Unity of Yuan Qi as the Emptiness is inherently the shen below the jing - the shen is turned around as the Universal Consciousness (instead of our normal individual shen just going out of our eyes as the ego - and this includes the individual shen going out of our bodies as astral travel!!). The qigong master who befriended me calls this the "point of origination" that is beyond the normal yin-yang energy. Why? Because Yangshen energy is the conscious awareness of what is normally subconscious yin qi that is nonlocal. As the original qigong master states - everything starts from yin qi - and so the qigong master who befriended me emphasized - everyone wants to go to heaven but no body wants to die - so like Prince they jump off buildings or high speakers - and take drugs - etc. - everyone looking for that transcendence without doing the real alchemy initiation based on the yin-yang energy dynamics. When the yangshen is accessed as a real enlightenment experience via the Yuan Qi energy - this, as the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality details - causes confusion. Indeed great confusion about what this all means - the Universal Consciousness as the Emptiness versus the individual consciousness - how is the One different than the Emptiness as Wu Chi - and how does that create yin and yang as 2 and 3, etc? So I go into this more in the pdf - and I am glad to have been able to return to these subtle, fascinating and crucial issues, thanks to the question that had remained unanswered on thetaobums. In science this is explained as the entanglement of light in black holes - so that the information is stored in the black hole but scrambled when it leaves the black hole as white hole energy. This means there is infinite potential mass that is imaginary mass as the Yuan Qi energy as information - and so the light going into a black hole is emitted again but only as a scrambled singularity - called Hawking Radiation of black holes due to the inherent quantum foundation of reality. We used to think that black holes just sucked everything up - not true! But this Hawking Radiation is not the same as the white hole transformation of the information itself - which then turns into Yangshen energy. So we could say then that the yin shen as yin qi light is our subconscious experience of the virtual black holes of reality that we exist within - the micro quantum black holes that are the gateways to nonlocal reality - the 5th dimension. The light goes into a singularity of infinity as we go to sleep at night - into the Emptiness of our mind - but in fact if we can turn the light around then the mass of the black hole is also turned around. This is the secret of the alchemy training. Science has yet to discover "white holes" since science is limited to classical math of macro-level technology that depends on Fourier time-frequency uncertainty, a linear operator (of left-brain-right-hand technology). The normal Hawking Radiation is still at the yin qi subconscious level as the light gets sucked into the black hole along with the mass of normal 4D spacetime. This is why Yan Xin said his qigong healing is based on a "virtual information" field that is the "highest technology of all technologies." Yan Xin was creating Yuan Shen healing of people when people meditate to turn their light around, thereby creating sympathetic resonance with the Yuan Qi energy or the Emptiness that does the healing - this is what the qigong master who befriended me calls instantaneous healing - or even healing the past as a spacetime vortex through gravitons. That is the Yangshen white hole healing that also enables precognition. So the 5th dimension “The information is not stored in the interior of the black hole as one might expect, but in its boundary — the event horizon,” he said. Working with Cambridge Professor Malcolm Perry (who spoke afterward) and Harvard Professor Andrew Stromberg, Hawking formulated the idea that information is stored in the form of what are known as super translations. “The idea is the super translations are a hologram of the ingoing particles,” Hawking said. “Thus they contain all the information that would otherwise be lost.” It is noncommutative phase - a logical paradox that Eddie Oshins also discovered is the secret of Tai Chi Neigong alchemy Bagua training - macroquantum resonance energy. A white hole is a theoretical structure (none are known to exist, though they don’t violate any of the known laws of physics) that emit matter and energy, but cannot ever be reached from the outside. So in fact this is explained only through the fifth dimension as nonlocal noncommutative phase. Carlo Rovelli - black to white hole transformations in terms of Hawking Radiation

The Highest Technology of All Technologies: The Yan Xin Secret By Drew Hempel, MA anti-copyright (free distribution) Yan Xin qigong is a simple, yet very powerful free energy practice that Yan Xin calls "the highest technology of all technologies." I first was introduced to his qigong practice ten years ago by the Chinese community at the University of Minnesota, hosting a Canadian-Chinese Yan Xin presentation from Toronto. The practice worked amazingly well but I just didn't understand why. Now after, of course, learning the "hard way," I have figured out the secret and it's just as effective as flipping a switch to produce free full-spectrum, healing energy. Qigong master Yan Xin is a "national treasure" of the Chinese government, an official designation that puts him under their protection and supposed control. The Chinese government even produced a documentary called "Yan Xin Supermaster" that I was able to see with the Yan Xin Chinese community at the University of Minnesota. Qigong master Yan Xin was doing "qi-emitting" lectures that were 7 hours straight and were healing thousands of people at a time. One person healed was the now qigong master Chunyi Lin who even studied with Yan Xin's teacher. Master Chunyi Lin now teaches his http://springforestqigong.com in Minnesota and he himself does amazing healing. I was able to take Master Chunyi Lin's classes for several years, receiving his energy tranmissions. Dr. David A. Palmer's new book: "Qigong Fever: Body, science and utopia in China" (Columbia University Press, 2007) gives further details about the efficacy of Yan Xin's qigong. The Chinese military had qigong master Yan Xin actually put out a vast forest fire! Master Yan Xin also went to the U.S. White House eight times to give energy treatments to President Bush, Sr., which gives some explanation to Bush's paratroop jump in his 80s! Master Yan Xin continues to do mind-blowing medical healing experiments in collaboration with western-trained scientists -- studies published in peer-reviewed international neuroscience journals. In 1999 there was a big crackdown on qigong in China against Falun Gong and several other practices that had huge movements, larger than the Communist party. At this same time Yan Xin's chi-emitting lectures were stopped and his international community stopped selling Yan Xin's meditation tapes, unless a lengthy training course was first completed. There is even claim now that the Chinese military has developed a secret post-apocalypse qigong weapon, which we can guess is probably based on their national treasure: Supermaster Yan Xin. YAN XIN'S FREE ENERGY SECRET What is unique about Yan Xin's "highest technology of all technologies," as he describes in his meditation tape, is a practice that only now I truly understand. Yan Xin has the qigong practitioner put their hands in front of the stomach so that the forehead can point towards the hands enabling energy to feed back into the "lower tan tien" -- the energy foundation of the body. Meditation often involves various "mudras" or hand positions but I've never seen another practice that relies on such a feed-back mechanism that Yan Xin teaches. Why is this simple practice so important? Anyone who has tried to sit in full-lotus knows it's surprisingly difficult to hold the position for the minimum of two hours that is required for truly deep meditation to be achieved. The pain and pressure in the legs becomes unbearable but if the hands are fed energy by the third eye then an internal energy pump is created which continues to open up the lower body channels. This same free energy feedback effect is produced just by sitting with the legs crossed, western style, or even sitting in a chair, with the back straight -- again the trick is to point the forehead towards the hand, in front of the stomach, so that the hands reflect the head energy back into the stomach. Both yoga and qigong rely on ionization of the stomach's electrochemicals which are then transduced into the brain via the vagus nerve. The left-brain vagus nerve connects directly to the heart while the right-brain vagus nerve connects to the stomach. So there can be a "mind to heart" left-brain meditation practice, called the "direct path" in Advaita Vedanta jnana yoga or there can be a stomach-brain-heart meditation practice which is really the same as tantra alchemy found both in China and India. Qigong in China emphasizes that it's the lower half of the body which gives power to the mind, enabling paranormal healing abilities. In tantric Buddhism the male, while sitting, visualizes a female riding on top of him, while he holds the female in front of the body, held up by his hands in front of his stomach. This tantra practice is the same free energy feedback principle as the Yan Xin Secret because the lower half of the body is yin, while the upper half is yang, but when the third eye focuses on the hands then the yang energy from the brain feeds back into the yin energy, reflecting off the hands. It doesn't matter whether the pracitioner is male or female because the original spiritual energy -- the formless awareness -- is female and for all humans the lower half of the body is yin (female) while the upper half is yang (male). Often times people will hold their hands in front of the body during meditation but without using the Third Eye to reflect the yang brain energy back into the lower half of the body there is no free energy circuit created. It's well known in meditation that bending the head slightly forward opens up the crucial channels in the back of the neck, but again this is not usually connected with feeding the head energy back into the lower half of the body, via the hands. What happens in normal meditation then is the vagus nerve pumps the yin energy from the stomach and reproductive organs, up into the brain but then the energy just leaves the body as yang energy -- attracted to yin energy outside of the body. This process is fine for emitting bioenergy healing but it does not produce a free energy feedback system for the practitioner. Mantak Chia, for example, does not teach full-lotus meditation because too often the yang energy gets stuck in the brain without any balance of the body's lower half yin energy. Instead Mantak Chia relies on the "microcosmic orbit" or small universe, an alchemy practice that is also taught in India, as Mircea Eliade details. The Yan Xin Secret is simpler, more direct and more powerful. The Yan Xin Secret of visualizing the third eye focusing energy on the hands which are then held to reflect that energy back into the stomach enables a free energy feedback system to keep building up the energy of the practitioner. The Yan Xin Secret works because of the complimentary opposite principles of natural resonance using asymmetric number -- something I've explained in detail in other articles. I had to learn the Yan Xin Secret the hard way because a beginner may not have a very visceral experience with the free energy process. Visualization seems too mystical for westerners -- unless we understand the principle behind it. At first blissful heat is created, then electromagnetic fields and finally light-information.

O.K. today I bought a Tascam DR 05 and just stuck it in the computer, called up qigong master Jim Nance and put him on speaker phone and then started recording our conversation. hahaha. Actually I had mentioned this to him earlier as he had mentioned talking today - or hanging out. Anyway so I am now converting the file from .wav to mp3 so then I can use Audacity to save it as a podcast after I mix it or whatever. I just want to put it on my blog for now -- but am just learning how to do this -- so watching a youtube tutorial. Anyone with tips please chime in!! Anyway so then Jim called me back after he hung up and he was really happy about the conversation and so I said how I had mentioned the idea to my qigong cyber-correspondent in Brazil - longtime since 2000 -- and so he contacted our mutual cyber-correspondent in Spain - and they have also volunteered to possibly set up a website just for podcasts with qigong master Jim Nance. So qigong master Jim Nance said to go for it and the way we did this podcast was that another qigong friend had called me today - and he had all these questions for Jim Nance and so - this friend lives out East but I had met him at the Level 3 Spring forest Qigong class. So anyway I had mentioned that to Jim earlier today and he said sounds great - and so the podcast is me asking Jim all the questions that our friend had asked me to ask Jim about. haha. So Jim says that he wants people to submit any questions they have -- like we did this podcast conversation and then I can ask qigong master Jim Nance the questions again like we did this show. He thought that went real well. But anyway so then Jim let me talk to him for another hour and half! haha. I said - I wish I was recording this - and he said - well you can just write it down afterwards. haha. Actually - trying to remember everything - oh so Jim said how he is working with athletes on initiation - on how when people are maturing and young and how athletics can be a great means for real energy initiation training and so this is something he is working on. Yeah so he will have a website on that in the future but he has been very busy doing healing and teaching, etc. Anyway oh so we were talking about Jim getting access to more movies or t.v. channels as his t.v. only gets a few channels and so I was saying how I used to borrow dvds from the library and how I like movies with lots of music and singing like Indian films and then Jim says how he was in India for three months. So when Jim was in India everywhere he went people kept mobbing him because they thought Jim was this famous cricket player. So the mobs would then buy Jim food and give Jim tickets to movies and get Jim to the front of the line, etc. and I said - wasn't your wife with you? Jim goes - yeah and so his wife says - just tell them you're the cricket player! Jim goes yeah but I don't know anything about cricket so I better not. haha. He said they went all over India and everywhere they thought he was this cricket player. I said - so did you ever find out who the cricket player was? Nope. haha. Anyway so we were talking about he had learned how to do different things with reading the energy -- like he was saying how Chunyi is in Australia right now and Jim would like to experience the energy of the land in Australia - the healing energy from the so many years of the indigenous people of Australia. He says how the information is still in the land from all those years of healing. I said - so do you think plants have emotions? Because how science has done tests like electrical tests on plants and some wonder if they have emotion - and he gave the example of how his dad was in the rodeo and so riding bulls and how there are clowns and acrobats also in the stadium to distract the bull if the rider falls off. But the bull can feel the energy of the person - even the though bull can not see the person who was riding him - the bull can sense the energy and so knows which person it was and the bull still keeps the focus on that person despite all these distractions. So Jim goes yeah if you are walking through the forest the trees know you have been there and can sense your energy. I told a story about how I had dreamt of these trees I grew up with - this huge oaks - I dreamt one had a rainbow aura around it and so I realized that the tree was walking me grow up and then I dreamt this other tree had this huge white bear against it and so I knew the bear was a spiritual symbol of transition and so I went back to that old yard. Sure enough that same tree I had dreamt about had just been cut down. Jim goes - yeah I totally know what you are talking about the trees really do know your energy, etc. Anyway so when he was talking about athletic initation -- I was saying that I switched into music but that when you take music deep enough then it is also an initation - and I said how Jim knows this much better like when he was in Mali. He told me how the music there when he listened to it then he saw all sorts of colors. He said tonight how actually it is really the environment also - how the Dogon people he was with in Mali - they have such a culture of being spiritual and doing the energy training and so you go there and just the enviroment is making the music! Anyway I said that as far as the environment goes it seems like the people you are around is really the most important. I said like for Jim that he actually quit his job so that he could do the qigong training and so it seemed he was then able to train in his own enviroment. I said that was a really serious level of commitment that most people are not going to make. He said - yeah its like you are with people that you love but maybe that are ways to keep the mind flexible. Anyway I am just paraphrasizing and summarizing -- but Jim was saying that with the energy training then what happens is that it completely changes how you experience your past because you understand your past better. Take for example a flashlight - he says that now with his light energy he had learned how to focus the light and also he can make the light flutter and flash. He says that we have all this technology but just by learning to expand our minds we can do so much with the energy and then we can apply that to making the technology better also. haha. So he said like doing the podcast interviews is an example. Well I had kept Jim up past his bedtime and anyway he nicely asked about when we were going to hang out - and so I said well he had his qi-talk in a week and that is also the Free Friday healing day for Jim - so he will be very busy. I remind Jim - yeah and you turn 64 - he goes yeah that Sunday. So I said - well it's like the Beatles song - but not really. I said yeah because you feel even younger now! He goes yeah and I am less afraid to have a beginner's mind - to know the importance of being young. He said that how amazing it is in our culture for how the to have a beginner's mind and then to be able to use that for energy initation training. So I had asked Jim Nance about the website name for his podcasts - I think that is when he had mentioned the Stevie Wonder song - he asked me if I had heard of it: "Stars in the Key of LIfe" - I said I had but did not really remember it. He said there was a movie that went with it also and maybe I could find that. O.K. that must be the song he was talking about as it says "star" and it's part of that album - Songs in the Keys of Life. So actually someone on thetaobums had emailed me saying they had gotten a phone healing from Jim Nance - they emailed me just a couple days ago. So they said they had not really felt anything. I said maybe it was a chronic condition and so it would require a few more healings. Anyway I mentioned this to Jim and he said that he would heal them as a friend of mine and I contacted the person for more details. Obviously that was super nice for Jim to do. But anyway Jim did mention how just recently -- yesterday I think - there was a baby at the Spring Forest Qigong Center who came for a healing - the baby had a cleft palate. Qigong Master Jim Nance said how he could see the palate growing back as the healing took place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4J3P7ID-Aw

I mentioned I had practiced Yan Xin as a supplement to my SFQ training. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADb5ftbY6dg Zhang HongBao was actually the final school that Chunyi did his intensive 49 day cave meditation training in. Chunyi mentioned for his qigong master training he had to manipulate household current and you can see in this training video - a documentary of Master Zhang Hongbao - there is a huge room of students and in front of each one there is a light bulb with live wires and the student had to hold the live wires and then change the light bulb energy. Chunyi has recently introduced different exercises based more on Buddhist philosophy whereas I prefer the most Taoist alchemy training he originally taught. But his focus is on the "unconditional love" energy as the Yuan Qi. He recently has used the terms Yuan Qi and Yuan Shen in his qi-talks. So for an advanced qigong master level the key is the emotional love energy as the bridge into the shen light - and this requires a deeper unconditional love energy as emotional compassion and love but also the teacher's spirit goes into the student and merges with the student. Chunyi calls this a "heart to heart" teaching - this is the highest level of teaching as the qigong master is sending in the Yuan Shen energy which then activates a person's Yuan Qi energy. So for that level the student has to make personal contact with the teacher. Spring Forest Qigong requires a high level of loyalty just as Master Zhang HongBao did also. So that Zhang HOngBao biography video shows that the exercises are the basis for the original Spring Forest qigong exercises. For example Chunyi relies on the "finger growing exercise" which is a simple external qi transmission that shows how the body can be healed - and this is the same exercise Zhang HOngbao used to also spread his qigong. Also Zhang Hongbao had a guild practice group on saturdays at his retreat training center at the sacred Taoist mountain similar to the guild meetings for SFQ and also Zhonggong, the school of Zhang Hongbao, had the same affiliate franchise model for business growth. You can see that "Heavenly essence" qigong or "tinhua" is another name for Master Zhang Hongbao's school taught in the U.S. here http://qidragon.com/qigong-2/qigong/qigong-level-1-instructor-program/ Using the same "accelerated microcosmic orbit" meditation as the alchemical foundation of the practice just as with the book Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. As far as tai chi forms - it's best to keep to the same practice every day as there is a resonance effect and also to practice at the same times again for resonance effect. Spring Forest Qigong is used for healing in hospitals and also the SFQ masters have been tested by the Mayo Clinic and University of Minnesota - top medical research facilities - with Dr. Ann Vincent reporting that the "external qi" healing of chronic pain results were "very impressive." You can also see another Dr. Nisha Manek who tested Spring Forest Qigong by co-authoring with Chunyi Lin for the Mayo Clinic medical textbook on complementary healing and so now she teaches energy healing research. http://www.tillerinstitute.com/nisha-manek-md.html Dr. Manek moderated HH 14th Dalai Lama’s visit to Mayo clinic in 2008. So you can see in that Master Zhang Hongbao video the healers dress in white as healing qigong doctors - but the practice is also a deeper spiritual alchemy training. Also the healing of external qi method is the same as SFQ teaches - with the opening of the small universe channels, etc. Master Zhang Hongbao relies on Einstein for his philosophy - as you can see him refer to Einstein in his qigong lecture. Chunyi also relies on this same principle of Einstein to teach his qigong. So I would say Spring Forest Qigong is a medical science-based qigong training that teaches energy can be transformed for the better. Chunyi said he knows masters in the mountains of China training their golden aura immortal bodies. Master Zhang Hongbao's final work was to unite the spiritual religious traditions of the world - but he had a Buddhist focus also - and similarly Chunyi has been working closely with the Tibetan monks in Minnesota and when the Dalai Lama goes to the Mayo Clinic hospital for treatments then the monks of the Dalai Lama have stayed at Chunyi's house. When Chunyi did go back to China he was recognized by a "Living Buddha" monk in a monastery closer to Tibet - the "living Buddha" changed his itinerary to go visit Chunyi and then Chunyi went to the monastery for a special ceremony - in the Tibetan tradition.

To put things into perspective - Chinese language has many dialects and qigong master Yan Xin did many mass healings in China and many times the Chinese people could not understand his language. The healing is not based on semantic terminology like "qigong" or "nei dan" or "neigong" - those are just words. I am aware of the endless debates people have had about words on the interwebz regarding alchemy training. I never used the term "nei dan" but I did say alchemy. There's also "haidan" I think as a term and "dao yin", etc. But I focused on specific methods like Quick Fire and small universe and full lotus and sun and moon meditation. What I did learn is that contrary to the full lotus being the best - it is Quick fire that most quickly transforms jing into qi and qigong master Wang Liping states this as well. Or maybe you don't want to call Wang Liping a "qigong master." haha. Yan Xin was trained first by his family but then Yan Xin was a Shaolin monk "qigong master" or again maybe that's not the correct term - also for his teacher Hai-tank. Hai-tank - there's different spellings. It's amazing that the comments to that video almost all say it's fake. People have NO UNDERSTANDING of the secrets of this training. But Chunyi told me he also trained with the teacher of Yan Xin at Shaolin. Chunyi also trained with Master Yao at Shaolin and the basis of that practice was the 2 hour nonstop horse stance with thighs parallel to the ground. You can find this as a "pole" practice in the traditional kungfu training shaolin youtube documentary - the only way that is possible is if the lower tan tien is already full of qi. When that was done every day for 3 months then Master Yao said the third eye was fully open so they could do long distance healing which they did. So again I don't know what terminology you want to call that - I'll let you decide what you feel "comfortable" with what words you think are most "official." But Wang Liping states that Tai Chi or standing active exercises are the quickest means to convert jing to qi. That was the problem I had in training - I relied on full lotus when in fact to "cultivate" or build up the energy then the standing active exercise should be relied on. But qigong masters have already fully opened their third eyes which means they can recharge their energy from the Emptiness directly - the Yuan Qi energy through the right side of the heart as the pin hole to the formless awareness of the Universe. So Wang Liping also emphasizes that ONLY the full lotus meditation can open up the meridians in the lower back properly - what Gurdjieff called the Kundabuffer - and Yogananda states full lotus "burns bad karma." Only the full lotus, according to Wang Liping, enables a deep enough level of Emptiness. Yan Xin states it is full lotus sitting meditation that enables the mind to focus on visualization fully while standing active exercise the mind is more passive and the body more active. Wang Liping also states how full lotus enables the deeper Emptiness level. Chunyi Lin did 49 day nonstop full lotus cave meditation. You can find similar training through http://qigongmaster.com of Master Zhang. Now Master Zhang is a Taoist alchemist - but he calls himself a qigong master. Show me one person who would claim Master Zhang is not a real "nei dan" expert because he calls himself a qigong master! That is too hilarious. Please don't get caught up by trending marketing terms with people bickering about labels and semantics. But again I was wrongly relying on full lotus because when there are lower emotional blockages as is the norm in modern society - lust, fear, anger, sadness, worry - then ONLY the quick fire method fixes the problem. I recommend studying the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" - and try not to get hung up on semantics and terminology but rather instead focus on concepts. So but I did have to study alchemy more to realize the errors I had in practice - for example Wang Mu's Foundation of Internal Alchemy book and also the Hui Ming Ching which is the source book for Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality - and the Hui Ming Ching also emphasizes that the number one error in training is thinking that celibacy is not necessary to store up the energy and that again the Quick Fire method is the only means to maintain celibacy. So the basic concept is that the deep fast reverse breathing converts the jing into qi and then the fire of qi increases the shen via the Emptiness of the pineal gland - and then the purity of shen increases the jing. For example Yuan Jing can be replenished via the ambrosia which is the overflowing of the qi-shen instilled in the cerebrospinal fluid of the brain and that fluid overflows out of the nasal cavity, activated by the tongue against the roof of the mouth. It is swallowed and this causes the stomach to burn hot and that is why a person should not eat a half hour after practice because the qi energy is then absorbed via the back of the stomach into the lower tan tien. But first the yin qi has to be built up and this is done through the yin heel channels - which are opened up and demonstrated opened as sitting in full lotus in ease. Master Nan, Huai-chin makes this point about Zen - that it became too focused on conceptual consciousness - zen poetry, etc. - and so it was lost that the body leg channels have to be opened up for true samadhi Emptiness to be achieved. So as Master Nan, Huai-chin says if the body is sick then the mind can not be emptied out at the final breath of life - and so there is no real qi that will empower the shen when it leaves the body and the shen will be confused as a ghost post death. So the dizziness is caused by lack of qi surrounding the shen and this qi surround the shen is stored in the lower tan tien. Chunyi reported that once even he overused his energy when he was healing people and so he too experienced this dizziness and so he had to have his advanced students teach his Level 3 class so he could meditate to recharge his energy.

I'm quoting Chunyi of http://springforestqigong.com but everything I wrote is my recollection and my opinion.

Spring Forest Qigong is alchemy training but Chunyi Lin is not part of the current alchemy marketing fad on the interwebs. haha. So at first Chunyi says to do three times more standing active exercise than sitting passive meditation or that standing active meditation is "cultivating" the qi while sitting meditation is "harvesting" the qi. The key with alchemy training, as Chunyi emphasizes, is to focus on the lower tan tien - and so the spirit light as fire gets under the jing as water and the result is the spirit-qi as a rainbow lotus steam. As Chunyi says the more you go into the Emptiness the more power you have. I finished my master's degree by doing self-directed research in qigong training with Chunyi Lin when I was 29 years old. The younger you are and the more pure you are then the faster results you get. I discovered the book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" which I realized closely follows the teachings of Spring Forest Qigong. So the foundation of the meditation is the "small universe" alchemy practice which is also the foundation of the Taoist Yoga book and the Quick Fire practice is based on the standing active exercise. The Level 3 Sun and Moon meditation then follows Chapters 6 to 11 in the Taoist Yoga book. In Level 3 is taught fasting for enlightenment. As a geek to prepare for the Level 3 retreat in 2000 I did a week long fast just taking a half glass of water. Contrary to the typical fast making someone weaker instead I had the strongest qi energy yet and I opened up my third eye. I started the fast when my lower tan tien had gotten very hot and by the end my skull was soft and pulsating with qi and opening up for spirit travel. At the Level 3 retreat I smelled cancer - well I didn't know it was cancer but this man in the front of a huge room smelled like death. I wondered how people could stay in the same room with him but then Chunyi said how qigong masters can smell cancer as a kind of rotting flesh smell. During a break I went to ask Chunyi "what I should do?" He said, "Let me read your aura." I never told him I had fasted for the week. He responded "Keep your mouth shut." I realized I had been meditating with my mouth open because I had misunderstood his instructions since he starts the exercise with breathing with the mouth open to clear out the bad energy. But also I didn't realize that Chunyi was initiating me into Enlightenment as a Ch'an answer - "keep your mouth shut" as in - don't talk about what you are experiencing if you want to advance. So after he answered me he left the room as it was a break and I went to sit down at my spot. Suddenly my brain was on fire! I realized that Chunyi was working to open up my third eye after he left the room. What I didn't realize is that it's actually easier for the qigong masters to do long distance healing as the mind doesn't get in the way as easily. I could not even handle the fire in my brain and my mind could not handle it. I wanted it to stop. But as the meditations continued - we were in full lotus doing meditation - and other experiences happened to me. For example when I was in my retreat room I realized that the man with cancer was in the room next to me - I could smell him - his rotting flesh - through the walls. This was strange since when Chunyi had healed him while he was in the big retreat room his cancer smell of death went away! But I could also hear the man had a woman with him and she was lusting after him and so that made his cancer smell come back! They were having sex and I felt very bad for him that he had used the energy for lust but then his female friend had chased after his energy. So also when I was in full lotus in my room - I had been in full lotus for hours while in the group meditation and so now the pain was great in full lotus in my room. So I just made the "sword fingers" and I pointed them at my feet and my qi energy was strong enough that just circling my "sword fingers" then sent qi into my feet and legs and opened up the blockages and made the pain go away. Also when we are in group meditation and Chunyi was in full lotus I could actually see yuan shen light arising out of Chunyi's head - shaped as a human as a light - and it would form above his head and then break off and float out towards a specific student to be healed in the room. Then after it broke off another spirit would form over his head and break off and drift out to another student to be healed. And so on. As I watched this amazed then I saw several spirits shaped like humans but as yellow light float into the room from outside and they hovered around Chunyi. I never said anything to anyone but Chunyi later explained that someone had seen these spirits and so he said those were dead people that had come to him to get healed. Ironically I had just read of this possibility in the biography of the most famous Buddhist monk master of Thailand - Phra Achran Mun. Not only did he also have dead people as spirits go to him to get healed but he also could read the minds of all his students and respond to them. So then after the retreat I had more experiences that brought me out of my enlightenment. I was practicing in a room I rented nearby the university - and I would order rare books via interlibrary loan - so I read meditation and yoga books as a break to my practice. But I did not study the "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" book enough! I was comparing various schools of meditation, studying nondualism. I also attended the Spring Forest Qigong guilds - the once a month weekend practice group meetings at another local private university. At one of those meetings Chunyi announced suddenly that "there can be no thoughts of sex" if you want success in your training. But also he said to get to an advanced level requires "going on retreat" or going out into Nature to live in harmony where the energy is pure. At that guild meeting he also mention jing energy - and so that's when I knew that Chunyi had trained in alchemy. Another time as I took more classes - I had brought the TAoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book to class with Chunyi but the book was never in the open - it was in my backpack. Yet Chunyi announced he had been practicing the "small universe" to a very deep level lately and then he quoted a passage directly from Taoist Yoga that is the stage of practice just before the "Yang shen" leaves the body - creating another fully formed physical body. In fact at the Level 3 retreat I had asked Chunyi if he had ever created a "yang shen" body and he told me that indeed when he had been meditating in his home in China then afterwards his friends said they had seen him outside his house at the same time. Also at that Level 3 retreat Chunyi shared how once when he was in deep meditation in the mountains in full lotus he then levitated up spirally - 3 meters he said - while he was in full lotus next to a pine tree. I had also read of this ability in the biography of Phra Achra Mun, the most famous Buddhist master monk of Thailand - his colleague had also levitated. Chunyi said if you want to see if someone is a real qigong master just see how long they can sit in full lotus in ease. So as I continued my full lotus training after the retreat as I said I had more experiences. At the first guild meeting after the retreat, the assistant of Chunyi, Jim Nance, was at our breakout practice group and Jim asked me to share my fasting experience. As I did so then this old lady asked me to practice healing on her. As I pulled out her blockages - I had forgotten that Chunyi had taught to never pull the blockages out of the top center of the skull. I was standing to her side while she was sitting and as I pulled the blockage out of the center of her skull I felt this heavy electromagnetic "blob" get pulled out of the top center of her skull. Immediately as I felt that she burst out bawling - even though I was not touching her never and she could not see what I was doing. She kept bawling for at least 15 minutes and every one had left the room and she left to go downstairs. I went downstairs and I saw my friend from the University. I said - "you're not going to believe what just happened" and as I said this the old lady suddenly was walking toward us - she was still bawling but someone else had their arm around her, comforting her. I realized I had accidentally pulled her spirit out of her body!! So then I went back to my room to keep practicing. But another experience I had was when I went to the local hippie-punk anarchist collective cafe where I had hung out with my university friend and another male who practiced meditation. But when I went in there I saw his sister across the room and as our eyes met suddenly I got this orgasmic blast of energy shoot up my spine. I was shocked that my eyes meeting with hers would cause this orgasmic climax and I went back into my room in disbelief. I was not able to process conceptually what had happened and I didn't realize that my energy had gone into hers and holographically she had lowered the frequency of my energy. If I had studied the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book in more detail I would have known that I had taken in "bad air" because I had looked at a "form of love" and so my "heart's fire" had gone out of my eyes into hers, thereby deconverting my yuan qi into "generative fluid." Only the Quick Fire method - the deep fasting breathing activated by the standing "moving of yin and yang" with the knees bent and the thighs lowered - only this has the power to reverse this lowering of the frequency of the energy. But I did not understand this need for the purification process as harmonization of the yin and yang. So when Chunyi Lin had taught at Level 3 to "use your consciousness" to "go into the Emptiness" and this creates the yin/yang energy and to keep is simple as the most powerful - I had to think - what is the difference between my consciousness and the Emptiness? So as I continued my full lotus meditation then my sense of consciousness vanished by the room was spinning around me. It wasn't just dizziness - it was like a spacetime vortex. What I had not realized - if I had studied Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality in detail - is that in chapter 11 it details how if your spirit leaves your body without enough qi surrounding the spirit then this dizziness will happen. I had gone into the Emptiness as a nirvikalpa samadhi experience but I didn't realize that this spacetime vortex was caused by my spirit light not having enough Emptiness yuan qi to power it and so my spirit got confused. Instead I was desperate for an answer. When I came out of that meditation I had the experience that "who am I" is most definitely not anything in this 3D spacetime - that my "mind" is not the real me - instead the Emptiness is the real me. So I had been using the Yan Xin meditation tape as a supplement to my Spring Forest Qigong training since the first initiation Chunyi had to qigong was a Yan Xin healing. But after that Emptiness experience I threw away the meditation tape since I felt that I didn't need any external tools as they were not the real reality. Also I got rid of my journal I had kept for several years since 1994 - because that was all just a product of my mind and not the real "me." When I told Chunyi about what had happened he said I had an "enlightenment experience" but that my mind was confused. Indeed Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality details that this confusion is caused by the first enlightenment experience. Around this time I had also begun going to practice healing on my mom and so I drove up to my parents to heal my mom. The first time I had practiced on her she did not really feel much. She said she just felt more relaxed. But since I had fasted and meditated the whole time my qi energy was very strong. But when I went to the house my mom immediately began screaming at me the worst she had ever screamed. She was going ballistic since I had not had any food in over a week and so to get her to stop screaming I just ate a bunch of food real fast. Then I said - do you want the healing still? She said yes and she sat in a chair in her room. As I healed her then strong qi when out of my hands into her body and I could sense she had a liver blockage. Then she got so sleepy that I had her lie on her bed and I kept healing her until she fell asleep. Then I left the house and I drove back to the city. But I did not understand what had happened. I had worked so hard to train as a healer and yet she just was more angry than ever before and since my energy was so pure I was very sensitive to negative emotions. I had felt betrayed that this was the punishment I got for working so hard. I didn't realize that when I had healed my mom I had actually done a spirit exorcism of her and that is why she was screaming ballistic when I entered the house. She had a liver blockage from drinking too much alcohol and this is why she was so angry. But I didn't understand this connection. Instead I decided I was no longer going to meditate. I began lowering my meditation levels. Before I had healed my mom - which was on Wednesday - on Monday I had gone to work. Since I was in school I only worked 15 hours a week but when I went to work I had not eaten in a week and yet I had more energy than ever before! When I was at work then I was alone in the back room doing my job but then this manager entered the room - a female younger than me. As I worked then I felt this strong qi emanating out of the center of my brain into the female - and the qi was filling the room. At the same time I could sense what the female was thinking and feeling and I realized that my pineal gland was transducing her thoughts and feelings into my brain so I knew what she was experiencing. Then her boss entered the room - another female who was the director. Suddenly the female manager said to her boss that she should promote me to also be a manager. The director was surprised to hear this as my position was not even based on any experience that would qualify me. Instead I offered to the director to give a talk to the workers about my qigong training and she agreed. I had given a previous talk about sweatshop activism and now I would give a talk about qigong. So then I decided to break my fast that Monday since I was at work and not just meditating all the time. I went to this nearby African restaurant that I frequented - the owner was born in Ghana but she had lived in Germany - and the food was traditional and mainly vegetarian. I decided to get a tofu soup with greens. But there was sea salt in it and the salt literally tasted like poison to me! I could barely eat it. Also there was a female that came into the shop and strangely she talked to the female owner - the shop was small and so I was nearby. The female said very blatantly how it was not good to point your feet at the guru. Suddenly I recalled that while I was at the Level 3 retreat that weekend I had gotten tired in full lotus and so instead I had pointed my feet at Chunyi while he was also in full lotus. I was shocked to hear the lady say this but I never asked her if she had been at the Spring Forest Qigong retreat. I thought maybe it had been just a synchronicity. In fact at this point in time I thought I really would like to just quit my job and go meditate outside Chunyi's house to figure out how to deal with my energy. Chunyi had said to call him if we have questions but I didn't have the money to pay him for the calls. At that time he had given out his home number since he was still doing his healing out of his home - he didn't have a qigong center. I also didn't want to intrude on his home life. Instead I figured that if Chunyi was a real spiritual master then he should be able to teach me at a distance. But I did go to local bookstore to look for answers - this is the used bookstore where I had found the "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" book. I saw a Sri Chimnoy book and at a whim I opened it up. The very first passage I saw was a student asking the Sri Chimnoy about what causes the spinning sensation during meditation. His answer was that was just the Cosmic Shakti and don't worry about it. Well that wasn't enough for me - I still wondered what had happened and I needed more details. I kept researching and I discovered Ch'an Master Nan, Huai-Chin. His books had lots of details from mayahana Buddhism which was new to me. Sure enough he said that what commonly happens in modern times is that a person trains and then gets "heroic over-exuberance" by using their spiritual powers and so they "fall back into the worldly mundane." I continued studying his books - I had to read them three times to digest the new information but those three books are now out of print. I didn't save the books since again I was detached from conceptual reality - but those books are now very valuable. haha. When I did return back to another Level 3 class for Chunyi Lin he goes around touching everyone's forehead to open up our third eye. I had stopped practicing as much but never the less my channels were open enough that when he touched my forehead I then felt strong magnetic bliss in the center of my forehead. At this point I wondered if this sensation would go away. I wondered if the energy was just some psychological phenomenon or if the enlightenment was permanent. So I completely stopped the qigong training to see what would happen. So then my energy channels closed up and at the same time - I thought that if the Emptiness is every where then there is just as much Emptiness in a pile of crap than in anything else. I was friends with homeless old hippies who dumpster dived for food and so I began doing the same with them out of solidarity. Also I had taken my AFrican-American coworkers out to lunch at the local Chinese restaurant. I had been vegetarian up till then but they all ate lots of meat. I realized they had lots of jing energy and so I figured why should I not eat meat also - why should I be more "holier than thou" than my African-American coworkers. So I began eating meat. I didn't realize that the qigong training is based on frequency harmonization as purification. Instead I was basing my philosophy on nondualism as a permanent static Emptiness and I did not realize that the Emptiness is actually an eternal process of yin-yang energy harmonization. And so my energy channels closed up even more and even worse my energy was now going up the front of my body and out of my mouth and eyes. I did not know what was happening to me and so I kept studying books. After a couple months of not practicing - the magnetic bliss was still in the center of my brain and so I realized that I had undergone permanent transformation. That this was the new me. I had done it - I had broken on through to the other side. I realized that my qigong training was now going to be the rest of my life. When I saw Chunyi again he had said that I should have kept on practicing and I should have called him with questions. Well he didn't say that directly to me but in general to the class. But he has a way of answering your personal questions as a general answer to the class based on his reading of the energy. I kept training on my own but the problem was that females kept chasing after me and when they flirted with me then the qi would turn into generative fluid and get lost as nocturnal ejaculation. So then I began sitting in full lotus in public during the day as I thought this would be "pre-emptive defense" and at this point I was already posting on this forum - thetaobums. I didn't realize that sitting in full lotus was making it worse! Even though I could stop the nocturnal ejaculations - or at least make them less - I didn't realize this was causing my energy to just go out of my skull instead. So I was sitting in full lotus in a McDonald's with the assistant from my favorite used bookstore. He sat there every day - he was obese from eating junk food and he like to spy the University females as the McDonalds was right by the University and his table faced the counters. Of course he never said this - he tried to hide this by studying his books, etc. He was ostensibly an intellectual but self-taught with some courses he took on occasion. So as I sat in full lotus I was facing the condiments dispenser - I couldn't see any females and I didn't want to look. But suddenly this young Chinese female worker from McDonalds began cleaning the dispensers while in front of my full lotus. I could not move while in full lotus at my eyes were at the level of her backside. Suddenly she lept into the air and she yelled out in bliss and at the exact same time orgasmic ejaculation shot up my spine. I could not believe what had just happened - and my friend pretended not to have noticed. But when I returned the next day the young Chinese female was laughing in bliss at the sight of me and she pushed her coworkers aside so she could take the register to make sure she could serve me. Then I knew that what I had suspected had happened really did happen - we had a mutual climax. But I wanted to test this out if it was really true and so I went to a study area of the University and I spied a comely fetching young female. I sat across from her while she was studying and she was dressed attractively and I also was studying as I did - only I sat in full lotus. I could feel the qi energy building up and being sucked in by her energy and as it built up then suddenly it would discharge the qi into her and at the same time I could sense she climaxed also. I kind of glanced up but she tried to pretend it didn't happen. So as I kept reading in full lotus the energy built up again but a bit stronger intensity and again it discharged into her as qi and she climaxed at the same time. After the 2nd time she then put her book down and she pretended to go to sleep in front of me. So then I kept sitting in full lotus and the energy built up again into a stronger intensity and discharged into her and now when the climax hit the internal ejaculation was stronger up the spine. At the moment it happened she then looked up at me and tears were going down her face. That confirmed to me that we had mutual climaxes. That this was real. Of course I felt terrible about it and I was determined not to do that again. But at the same time I also pondered the meaning of this. No longer were females all dressed up to attract a mate - no longer were they using sex as a kind of limited supply energy to leverage males who could provide the means to help raise a family, etc. In other words I had completely bypassed the bourgeois commodity fetish "consumer unit" reproductive sex dynamics. Also I thought that this is my own body and I can sit in full lotus in public if I want to - I'm not breaking the law. So I decided I would keep sitting in full lotus in public. But females kept pursuing me and actively "pumping" the energy out of me or staring at me, etc. I had awakened a beast so to speak and I posted all these experiences online so that I would get critical feedback. So then I continued having these experiences which I dubbed the "O at a D" or "orgasm at a distance" and the responses online were shock or anger or disbelief, etc. So I kept collating the experiences but I realized they were not limited to just the mutual climax. Still I had many mutual climaxes and some I would call "repeat customers." I realized that females were going into what primatologists called "female display behavior" and so I had to study more science to figure out what was happening - with the vagus nerve - and I studied more qigong, etc. But at the same time - I had other experiences which deepened my understanding. I could also heal people's anger blockages - at a distance - and their sadness blockages. I was in full lotus at work and a young male walked into the room and when my eyes met his then I was overwhelmed by sadness. I blurted out - "Why are you so sad!!" and he was shocked. He was so shocked that I would know his inner emotions since his face was normal and he had not said a word to me. As he stood in silence in shock then I suddenly realized he had just come back from a smoking break. I had been a lone in the room - no one else was there. I then heard myself saying - "you know smoking causes depression." He was 24 years old and we had discussed energy training before. He was interested but more in that bohemian manner but soon after he quit smoking and his sadness went away. Another time I was reading in full lotus in Burger King and I could see out of the corner of my eye this big Native American man with his food tray looking to see where to sit. As our eyes met then suddenly my liver filled with his anger. I knew I had to be careful and I didn't look at him again but he walked slowly past me. I was concerned he might attack me as I exorcised his anger - my liver got hot and then my pineal gland shot qi back at him - out of the back of my head as he sat behind and to the right of me. I was in one side of the restaurant and he was 90 degrees to me. I kept reading and slowly the burning heat in my liver went away and I realized I was safe. Suddenly he walked towards me and he said one thing to me: Thank you. I barely glanced up at him since I didn't want to risk him smelling me - as the qi energy going out of my skull would also pull up the lower body anaerobic bacteria of my intestines. I had to constantly use purification essential oil - I used tea tree oil as antiseptic and then peppermint to cover up the tea tree oil. So I had adapted into my own strange - very strange - free tantra inner city healing qigong practice. I biked around the city, and I read books in the libraries or used bookstores - and while in full lotus reading I had psychic energy healing exchanges with strangers. Mainly the "O at a D" experiences. I even had a precognitive "O at a D" once. I didn't realize I was using up my Yuan Qi energy. No one on thetaobums could explain to me what was happening - in terms of alchemy - and in fact people on thetaobums had insisted I should not study the Taoist Yoga book as it was too dangerous. haha. So I had to keep pondering the philosophy and study science and more meditation and qigong books. At work I was able to work at nights when no one else was there and so I was able to build up my energy again. I biked to work in the winter and it was very cold out in Minnesota and when I got to work I wanted some quick energy - there was a candy bar machine but it was just a metal box. When I went to put in the quarters then the quarters stuck to the side of the machine and rolled "up" the side of the metal box as my hand went over the quarters, wondering what was happening. I then decided to check my qi levels so I put my hands facing each other - my palms - and sure enough I felt strong magnetic force pushing my hands apart. I realized I had moved the quarters at a distance - telekinesis. Soon after this young female coworker began "hanging around" after wards at work - pretending she needed to shovel papers - when in fact I knew she was overstressed. She was one of the few females left and my job was being automated and the computer manager had destroyed all the "turf" - the pieces of paper I organized - the paper which people called for the nonprofit fundraising. The workers were desperate since they could not make quota since the computer manager was transferring the turf to a new leased supercomputer speed dialer. So she was too stressed from the new impossible work conditions and she was hanging after work stalking me when normally I had been working alone. I felt sorry for her and so I filled her with energy and she survived the crunch. As I continued to do that - she even got promoted to be a manager. And as I continued to send energy into her then she got promoted to being the director. She still was stalking me and she would come in after her daytime shift was done and then she would pretend to have work to do while I worked - she would sit across from me. The problem was that since her jing energy was low then I had to eat a lot of meat to have energy to turn into qi for her and then I ate a lot of garlic and cilantro to purify the meat. But I still had to use tea tree oil as antiseptic and peppermint. I was a mess. Finally she said - after years of me doing this - that I had a "lot of charm" but too bad I could not talk. So I increased my tea tree oil output and I would take turns sending energy to her and then talking in between. After a couple hour tantra session like that she left and soon after I collapsed asleep from a tantra tea tree oil overdose. The thing is that sending the energy is right brain dominant and so you can not talk while sending the energy but I could read at the same time since reading is left brain dominant. So I could read and send energy at the same time. I had dozens - hundreds of "O at a D" experiences and stories which I could relate. You have to first have energy to send. But the qigong master Chunyi said in his guild talk that he doesn't practice tantra since the energy you take in is too low frequency - when the female climaxes - the energy is just an energy blockage that you take in. Even though if the female has strong jing energy and you take that in when she climaxes it is still lower frequency. So I would have to convert that female jing energy back into qi. I realized I could fast if I was around females with strong jing energy - through the mutual climaxes as tantra. But as Bill Bodri and Master Nan, Huai-chin state the tantra practice is inherently limited to "emptying out the lower realm of form." This is what happened with the female coworker as we continued having mutual climaxes - then it went past lust and when together we had our hearts interwoven as qi energy. This was the yuan qi activated but that was the limit of the practice. And during physical separation there was sadness because lust is rooted out of the lungs - the lungs are the alchemical foundation of the water element - the lungs as metal are passion and so cause the yin qi as the heart's fire to go out of the eyes. So if you loose to much yin qi energy as the heart's fire this causes sadness and in extreme form can cause death as lose of yuan qi energy. This is documented by science - people can die from the right side vagus nerve to the heart being overstimulated. So I had to quit my job as I had gone to far - the tantra could not be continued in public - my hours had gotten changed - I could not work at night. I was still dumpster-diving my food and eating tons of garlic and I filled the workspace with the garlic crap smell. Meanwhile I had this strong mutual love with the coworker but ironically I had never been physically attracted to her. Sure there had been tantric lust but as science documents sex drive is not the same as attraction and yet love is based on the oxytocin body. I had discovered the secret connection of lust to love via tantra but I still didn't realize I had been using up my yuan qi energy. In fact the Taoist Yoga book says this is the main cause of failing in the training - the creation of qi energy increases the very passion that causes the loss of energy! I then left the city on my old three speed bicycle and I went to a Buddhist monastery set up by my Burmese friend who had been a refugee but now was a successful person and so he had brought a monk over from Burma. But as he and I discussed me moving to Burma to become a monk then I could read that this monk in his house was actually a perv - a fake monk - and he hit on me! The Burmese friend was also upset that I was fasting to purify my energy and I was sitting in full lotus to meditate - and he said this was not real Buddhism and he told me to study the books he had in the monastery. I did and I discovered that the first level of real samadhi in Theravedin Buddhism is called "Achievement of Cessation" and it requires a week long fast. haha. Also my understanding is that the Theravedin monks of Thailand - Phra Achran Mun - had sat in full lotus. But from my academic studies on my own - I had discovered there was a tension in the Buddhist training - especially in Thailand and Burma. The Vipassana tradition relied on mind meditation whereas the "power" monks of the forest tradition relied on full lotus. The King and royal family would patronize the power monks to get their power but the royal family was considered corrupt by the democratic urban vipassana tradition. But as part of the democracy movement then the cities were taking over the monasteries as community charities run by the local community which did not have the experience in actual spiritual training. But meanwhile I had left the Burmese monastery in the middle of the night in the cold freezing rain - and I continued my dumpster diving tantra practice. I continued biking for 250 miles - I dumpster dived a big gas station chain that has packaged hamburgers. I had garlic with me. I continued on to a Cambodian monastery that was 200 miles away down the Mississippi river. It was under construction and as the head monk wondered what to do with me - then the monastery got a phone call. It was my Burmese friend, head of his own monastery, wondering what had happened to me! haha. So then I left the Cambodian monastery and I biked up to the forest of my parent's house. My dad had been at this point a chronic alcohol and his brain had deteriorated as I realized when he had taken me to visit my sister a few years earlier. I began clearing out the European invasive buckthorn which had destroyed our forest plant diversity. I increasingly had precognitive experiences and when I found my dad's dead body my heart was filled with this amazing love. The night before I had psychically sensed he had a heart blockage when he returned from eating dinner with my mom who had previously moved to our second house as my dad was chain smoking and drinking. I had never picked up psychically a heart blockage like that from my dad and that night while I was in full lotus at the computer - suddenly I thought - "my dad just died." I ran up to check him in his bedroom but he was quiet and seemed to be sleeping. I'm not sure what happened but in the morning when I went into the bedroom his body was blue and I immediately called 9-11. But my heart when seeing his body was immediately overwhelmed with the strongest love I had ever felt. I knew he was experiencing that love when he had left his body and so I knew he was in a better place. I had studied NDE experiences as part of my training and I had seen ghosts and so I knew he was in a better place. A few years later my mom had gotten sick where she had almost died but then the qigong master Jim Nance was offering free healing sessions at the qigong center. My mom was desperate and so she agreed to go with me. At one session I also brought an AFrican-American coworker of mine who had been interested in the qigong. My mom felt stronger after each session and she was really happy but the healing would not last. I had been sitting in full lotus for 2 hour sessions of meditation but suddenly Jim Nance called me. He asked me to help him with his qi-talks at the center. So then another time he called me and I asked him questions and he said how he could see in 4 directions out of his skull at the same time - the third eye. We talked for 2 hours but suddenly he said he was having a "conservation with my mom" as he was talking to me. She was asleep upstairs and I realized he meant he was healing her but I didn't ask him for details. The next day my mom who previously had been barely able to walk now for the first time in months cooked her own breakfast. My sister was in shock but my mom didn't know why she had so much energy. The next day she walked on her own to the mailbox which is a half mile walk there and back! She just had too much energy so she felt like walking. Her friends asked her what had happened. I still didn't say anything to her since I didn't want her to dismiss the healing. Finally after a week and she was still wondering what had happened I told her that Jim had done a healing on her while he was talking to me on the phone. Then when Jim called again I confirmed with Jim and I asked him if he had to send more energy and he said that he had to send energy several times and it was easier to heal her while she asleep so that her mind would not get in the way of the healing. Jim and I continued to have a lot of interaction as he was working a book of his qigong training and also continuing his qi-talks and doing more phone healing. People online then asked me to contact Jim and we began interacting that way. And that continued until last fall - Jim made my head go on fire two times - the first time in 2005. At that point doing long distance healing was newer for him - when I had returned to class he said, "did you feel anything?" I was in shock since the energy had been so strong I had stopped meditating. When I shared that story with him ten years later he laughed and said that was my true Self manifesting - it was not something "external" to me. Another time I was ranting at Jim about politics while he was in the car - he got real quiet and suddenly I felt deep in my heart this strong qi energy. He explained he didn't want to listen to me so he left his body. But then he wanted to see where I was talking from and he said I was talking from my heart.

the mind is easily fooled by itself. Emptiness listens to itself. No ONE is listening. Just sit in full lotus. Even the spiritual ego can be easily fooled but the Yuan Qi is the source of the heart - the pin hole on the right side of the heart to the Emptiness as formless awareness.

http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Physics-Between-Structure-Universe/dp/0465034993 Dr. Stephon Alexander just had this book published which corroborates my qigong music analysis of alchemy. The Jazz of Physics: The Secret Link Between Music and the Structure of the Universe I give quotes and analysis as a new blog post http://conspirachi.blogspot.com/2016/04/yuan-qi-as-quantum-entanglement.html When we identify all of the C notes in the five-sided star [Coltrane's secret music model], we get the twelve-tone system of Western music. However, information is lost when we identify the five C notes as one C note in the mandala. [the Western closed circle of fifths] By information I mean the geometry, of the five-sided object embedded in the sixty cycle. If I were to try to perserve the pentagon in our twelve-note cycle, we get a very interesting scale - the pentatonic scale....guided from Coltrane's statement to Amran..."something that came from natural sources".... It is a fact that the pentatonic scale exists in cultures all over the world.....Coltrane was search for what was universal in music....he wanted to find music that came from natural sources. Well, the pentatonic scale can be generated from five perfect fifths. pp. 223-4, The Jazz of Physics That is the Infinite Spiral of Fifths!! The perfect fifths from natural sources is the infinite spiral of fifths which is most closely approximated in Western tuning by the "sixty cycle" circle of fifths. So the author is extrapolating to the secret meaning of Coltrane's connection to Einstein: "In other words, like Einstein's idea of invariance, the pentatonic scale is a basis from which complexity can unfold...." p. 225 For the most part, there are three tonal centers that move around, like rotating a triangle around the circle of fifths. [the 1-4-5 music intervals that are the key to my analysis!] And this harmonic rotation repeats itself in time.... So I imagined that every time the cycle of the song repeats in time, the improviser gets to play new solos, or even permutations based on what they previously soloed. So what if we mapped the notes to the values of coupling constants and the rhythmic cycles to the cyclic expansions and contractions? p. 211 The author is using the "infinite spiral of fifths" as the basis for quantum cosmology - successfully!! He published based on that concept - with coauthors. here And here - the paper in the book In other words, like Einstein's idea of invariance, the pentatonic scale is a basis from which complexity can unfold. p. 225 That is the core idea of my model also as the infinite spiral of fifths. So the author, Dr. Stephon Alexander, does a nice job summarizing de Broglie's analysis of Einstein. The key to de Broglie's solution was to associate a particle-like property, momentum, with waves and to imagine electrons not as miniplanets orbiting a nucleus but as standing waves on a string.... De Broglie hypothesized that the momentum of the electron could be associated with the wavelength of the standing wave orbit, similar to the relationship between a photon's energy and frequency....In the above equation, p is the momentum of the electron as it moves around the center of the nucleus and [missing symbol] is the wavelength. It is amazing that this equation is a physical reality, for it states that an electron's "orbital" wavelength, a wave-like property, is related to how fast it is going around the nucleus, its momentum. The larger the wavelength, the slower and lighter the particle - recall that momentum is the product of the mass and velocity of a particle. p. 164-5. So the key paradox that de Broglie discovered here is that for Einstein as energy goes to the speed of light the frequency is going up, higher energy, as time, the wavelength, slows down, larger wavelength and any mass increases. But for de Broglie the larger wavelength is inverse to momentum since the frequency determines the mass as energy - so de Broglie realized bigger wavelength means lower frequency which means lower energy and lighter, slower particle. The paradox de Broglie discovered was resolved as his Law of Phase Harmony - so that there are two time clocks - one that is superluminal - faster than the speed of light - which then goes backwards in time from the future! This is how quantum entanglement harmonizes the classical realm of larger wavelength, greater mass and the quantum realm of larger wavelength, smaller mass. Instead classical science presents it as a measurement problem but in fact it is an inherent "uncertainty" of time and frequency but in reality the uncertainty is from the noncommutative geometry of time and frequency. Dr. Stephon Alexander published on superluminal speeds at the inflation of the universe because of noncommutative geometry - this is the quantum cosmology of de Broglie. As he writes: The next day, I woke up with this newfound insight and ran to my desk to jot down some equations that related to a branch of mathematics called noncommutative geometry, which proposes that the speed of light in the early universe could vary. [p. 61] We will return to this important musical analogy when we explore how asymmetry in the early universe similarly established hierarchies in the earliest cosmic structures. [p. 66] So then just as with de Broglie's Law of Phase Harmony at cosmic inflation we get this: But inflation synchronizes these phases. [emphasis in original] It is like having all those violins, which began playing a cacophony of different notes, converge on exactly the same note because some field - the 'conductron' - swept over them. In this sense, the inflaton field is our cosmic conductor. p. 192 It could be that there is a quantum effect on space-time that fundamentally violates Einstein's cherished Lorentz symmetry, resulting in a variation of the speed of light in the early universe. p. 204 So then Dr. Alexander argues that Coltrane's music model uses invariance like Einstein's relativity but with Coltrane there is asymmetry inherent to the natural perfect fifths of the non-western pentatonic scale - the secret core of Coltrane's sound cosmology. Dr. Alexander argues that this noncommutative tuning also enables the structure of the universe to resonate out from inflation - as infinity from harmonics. So Dr. Alexander just needs to study music theory a little bit more to realize the actual noncommutative geometry of real Pythagorean harmonics as my blogbook details. He has figured out the intuition of the music - from the natural resonance of the Perfect fifths. Amazingly - there is a strong correlation between the left side auditory cortex and time precision for language but less in frequency precision. A left-right asymmetry - from primates - with the left brain for language dominance and the right brain for subtle frequency - single cell recordings - Shihab Shamma - here and so this corroborates music for meditation as activating right-brain dominance! Whereas language is left-brain dominant. Spectro-temporal - so that the Fourier time-frequency uncertainty principle trades off based on the left and right side of the brain!!! 17 mns into the video above. Frequency is quantum energy is meditation is music!! more details on the blog link

bodhidharma can read my previous posts - as anyone who has read this forum since 2005 or so - I have a zillion posts on this subject but there is a steep learning curve so my more recent posts are much clearer. You can read my blog for the details.

http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/13330-celibacy-and-sexual-energy/page-4 This is "drew hempel" registering just to respond to bodhidharma's multiple post question to me and the previous question in same thread in 2012 at above link. Most males are completely clueless to what I discovered by accident and I dubbed the "O at a D" until I also discovered independent corroboration achieved by Gurdjieff and by the online video demonstrations and healing business of "tantric mongoose" and also by Michael Winn and Shaktimama mentioned this also and then Mantak Chia. So the information is out there but it's just difficult to find and as far as achieving this ability - it is quite rare. Now then the post I made was in 2010 and it's now six years later so what have I learned? The answer is that you need to study the traditional alchemy book "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" in great detail to know what what I discovered and practiced is actually the single greatest error you can make in the alchemy qigong training. This, unfortunately, is covered up in the Westernization of qigong training. For example if you study the original school that my teacher trained in - Master Zhang - he lists one of his main rules as no thoughts about the opposite sex that are obscene. Obviously the paradox of this, made fun of in Old Skool kung fu flicks from the 1970s, is that there has to be secrecy in order to be effective and so to just reveal explicit images to a qigong master is a means to steal his power. That is why it's jokingly called "virgin kungfu" in the Old Skool movies - but in the 1980s in China the general society was still repressed enough and traditional enough that this strict standard of celibacy training could be achieved, especially when practiced in retreat, as Master Zhang did have his retreat training center at the most sacred Taoist mountain in China. So now the claim is that I have made up this ability - but in fact a qigong master did verify I have this ability (along with a few females verbalizing it to me although they normally would not generously share such intimacy verbally, especially in public). But the qigong master, after I first shared with him what I discovered, urged me not to talk about it as just talking about the subject "attracted the type of energy" - it is too low frequency for the qigong master. The original qigong master then shared that he himself never practices tantra - the taking in of the female energy - because the frequency of the energy is too low and so it just causes energy blockages. And finally Bill Bodri shares how tantra is inherently limited to emptying out the consciousness of the "lower realm of form" in Mahayana Buddhism - and so as a training tool it does greatly accelerate the early stages of energy training but it has to be rejected in the end. You can read his article for his details on it - http://www.meditationexpert.com/meditation-techniques/m_sexual_tantra.html on sexual tantra. So for example Michael Winn also gives his experiences - http://www.thedaobums.com/topic/22174-nicole-daedone-female-orgasm-and-shantam-nityama-tantric-mongoose/ It's in a previous thread I posted. In fact this topic, is of course, the MAIN topic on thetaobums - why? Because as Gurdjieff pointed out in the West the training usually never gets beyond the lower emotional blockages and romantic love is the final emotional blockage - called "over excitement" in traditional Taoist training. Indeed I can say from experience that the lust drops away and instead as the realm of form is emptied out there is the opening of Yuan Qi as two hearts interwoven astrally - with strong magnetic bliss in the heart - along with heart break at physical separation from the person. I don't mean actual physical separation but no longer in visual contact. Why? Because the tantra is based on the psychic "yin qi" energy as the heart's fire going out of the eyes via the heart-pineal gland connection. And so as the qigong master discovered for me - and as I then corroborated with the Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality book (a book he's never read) - what happens with the "O at a D" is the yin qi energy is going up the front channel and out of the eyes. This is actually via the lung energy - as the lung organ is the metal element and so combines with the heart as the yin qi energy of passion out of the eyes. So then what happens is that if you use too much of the yin qi heart fire energy out of the eyes - sending it into the female - what's called the "love gaze" in science - this creates love sickness as depression. Guess what? Science has proven that a person can die from love sickness as depression! How? Because there is over-activation of the vagus nerve which is the right side vagus nerve connection to the heart. The right side vagus nerve is the unmylieated reptilian vagus nerve that goes down to the reproductive organs and goes up to the right side of the brain and then goes down to the right side of the heart. The reason science puts microchip implants to treat depression on the left side vagus nerve is because over-activation of the right side vagus nerve of the heart can kill a person. This is the cause of death by fright or too much stress causing a person to pass out. You get vagus nerve rebound - at first the deep lung breathing activates the sympathetic nervous system to the pineal gland which increases the "over-excitement" of adrenaline (sympathetic) and dopamine. Sexual lust is based on dopamine. But the typical male at ejaculation then switches from dopamine of the vagus nerve (right side) to cortisol as sympathetic nervous system ejaculation. So the vagus nerve is parasympathetic but ejaculation switches to the sympathetic which then increases the stress hormones. This is why the male often goes to sleep after ejaculation and how Taoist alchemy is based on celibacy. The key thing to know is that when we look at something our vision is mainly subconscious - it directly is process by our emotional brain first before our visual cortex then adds our conceptual analysis to filter out the subconscious information of the thalamus. This is why controlling what the eyes see is the most critical step of the alchemy training - because biophoton light with the qi energy shoots out of the eyes. The yuan qi originates out of the right side of the heart. The right side vagus nerve increases the dopamine from the reproductive organ to the brain - and it's this reason why there is such a strong subconscious connection between lust and aggression. The thalamus controls both adrenaline for fighting and dopamine for lust. So as Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality teaches - what happens is you increase your yin qi energy and so when you see the "form of love" this subconsciously immediately sends a signal - via your pineal gland connection to the hypothalamus - to increase dopamine and to deconvert the qi into reproductive fluid. This deconversion originates from the right side of the heart as the vagus nerve connection to the brain, as the source of yuan qi energy, which then goes up to the brain and then goes down via the cerebrospinal fluid. So in fact the only way to reverse those subconscious "form of love" energy deconversions is by Quick Fire method - which is strong reverse breathing activated by the kidney energy - the strong reverse breathing then converts the dopamine back into adrenaline as the adrenal medullae are activated by the diaphragm strongly contracting against the kidneys. This has the force to sublimate the energy - and is why the knees are the sign of the jing energy - with the horse stance causing a 7 beats per second vibrating of the legs. In alchemy the "yin qi" heel channels have to be built up first to then fill up the "Ocean of yin qi" - which is below the lower tan tien. Only once the yin qi energy is filled up is then the yuan qi activated and the pineal gland opens up as the psychic lunar Tai Chi experience - the Cavity of Original Spirit - via the "Cavity of Spirit-Vitality" of the lower tan tien. So the yin qi is created by the yuan shen of the heart being focused below the jing energy to then convert the jing into yin qi. This can only be done by controlling the mind through purification - the "yuan shen" is then the holographic subconscious energy. So it's well known that at orgasm our mind empties out conceptually - what the French call the "little death" - but also when we have the strong reverse breathing the same happens as a sympathetic nervous system rebound. So the vibration of the legs at 7 beats per second then causes a sympathetic rebound to the opposite extreme of the vagus nerve activation as internal orgasm. So then the lower body floods with serotonin which is why people are psychophysiologically - get the "shit scared out of them" - this is because when the intestines flood with serotonin it causes the bowel movement. The other way to do this, as Master Nan, Huai-chin details, is by staying in full lotus until the legs are numb then eventually the qi energy returns back to the legs to open up the channels - and this is also a parasympathetic rebound causing the internal orgasm of the vagus nerve, the right side vagus nerve connection to the reproductive organs. This is well documented for females with spinal injuries - they can still have orgasm because the right side vagus nerve connects to the cervix. And in fact that cervix orgasm is considered the "real" orgasm that females crave by males being well-endowed - but in actuality the qi energy is a direct activation of the vagus nerve of the female. In fact even if a female stares at a male in lust the female is then sucking up the males yin qi energy (assuming the male has actually built up their yin qi energy). The pineal gland can then sense if a female is staring at the male in lust - just because the male will feel his energy being deconverted - because the pineal gland senses energy in all 4 directions. So this is the main cause of not continuing in building up the energy in the alchemy training, as Taoist Yoga details along with the book that Taoist Yoga is mainly based on Hui-Ming Ching. Also this issue is the main one protested against by Westernized qigong trainers as this issue belies the subconscious blockages of modern society - postmodern society - where "sex sells" and so traditional gender dynamics no longer are possible. So what happened with me is that I was in the car with the qigong master and I was driving and suddenly I felt this strong qi energy in my nether region as he began doing healing on me. I did not even talk about it but rather I talked about other things as I didn't want to cause a problem about him healing me - even though obviously it was quite a bit disturbing to feel the qigong master's energy in my nether regions. From my experience I know the qigong master does long distance healing - so it's not just his qi - but he sees the information that is stored there. And this is why the tantra practice is so limiting because you don't just take in the yin jing energy of the female when she climaxes - but in actuality it's the "yin shen" of the female. It's the "yin shen" that is the carrier wave of the qi energy. The yin shen guides the qi and the yi intention but only when the qi energy is built up does the yin shen have the energy to be able to make the energy-matter transformations. And so with tantra I was holographically storing up all the females with whom I psychically had mutual climaxes. So then when the qigong master was done healing me I actually felt "lighter" physically - because the yi or intention of lust is a lower frequency yin shen energy blockage. This is why the lower chakra is red because it is longer wavelength and lower frequency - or higher amount of time and lower frequency energy as yin shen energy. The Yuan Qi is the Emptiness formless awareness but it can't be visualized as a "form of love" and so this is why "yuan qi" is "unconditional love" energy. Tantra is very fast since the yuan shen guides the qi directly to the heart but the yuan shen is on the left side of the heart while the yuan qi is on the right side of the heart. As the book Taoist Yoga states in fact with the "O at a D" I was using up my "yuan qi" energy from the right side of the heart and I was deconverting it to yin qi as passion - psychic passion - and then when the female fills up with yin qi and my yin qi is pulled up from the lower tan tien then there is a psychic mutual climax at the same time. But it's only when the light as yuan shen intention - yi - is focused on the "clear light" is there a natural resonance of the photons into the quantum Emptiness of the formless awareness as yuan qi. I go into more details about this on my website - http://conspirachi.blogspot.com After the qigong master healed me I said I felt lighter but otherwise we didn't talk about it - until a couple months later. While he had been healing me he did say one word "Interesting." That is a word he says often when he does healing and he finds out new information. So a couple months later I asked him what he meant when he had said interesting - and he said it was all the women I had exchanged energy with. Because the qigong master can leave his body at will based on his direct access to the yuan qi energy and his third eye being fully open so that he can see in 4 directions out of his skull at the same time. So his spirit guides the qi out of his body to do healing and also he can then travel back in time and into the future because the yuan qi is the quantum entanglement origin of 3D spacetime. In other words the yuan qi is what in the West is called God - and so 3D spacetime is a holographic projection of the yuan qi - and so it is "not" the qigong master doing the healing. Spiritual healing is based on the Emptiness doing the healing - you send your yuan shen into the Emptiness and then the Emptiness knows what to do - and the Emptiness has the energy to do the transformation needed - and then the Emptiness provides the information or yuan shen spirit light holographically - and this is like a computer download - a very fast rate of holographic experiences.

the lineage from the gnostics can be traced back to Pythagoras.... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiqguSOjPbJAhWJuB4KHYIPC9kQFggdMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fba278b9d8106536501a2-57da1f3fe93ccf3a9828e6ce67c3d52c.ssl.cf5.rackcdn.com%2Fonline_digest_pythagoreans_full_051109.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEUmZeJZ30eMNPmXVuv55tdoLZiKQ&sig2=zYzMV_cKZecMs0gUCCp39w&cad=rja Peter Kingsley pdf on this - so the "golden plates" that the Greeks used were Phoenician but originally Egyptian.... The idea being if you were buried with gold then you went to heaven - a la the philosopher's stone.... As for the actual training - it would be the book "Taoist Yoga: alchemy and Immortality" which gives the best details. The alchemical "pill" or stone has been described as hard qi - like a rock in the lower tan tien when it is crystallized. The Ch'an book Bones of My Master - George Crane has the Ch'an master describing it as a crystallized combination of jing-qi-shen - blood and qi and light - And similarly the bones of the Buddhist masters - after cremation - are said to have these same crystals as stones that withstand cremation.... From science we can say this would be the result of sonofusion - as bigu is hypothesized to be from gamma radiation creating new matter - and similarly sonofusion appears to create a new type of fused matter that contains all the elements. The original qigong master said he knows of qigong masters in the mountains in China meditation to create the yang shen bodies and they have the golden aura of immortality.... And so we know this golden aura is the yuan qi building up in the lower tan tien fusing with the yuan shen. Peter Kingsley's latest book "A Story Waiting to Pierce You" traces Pythagorean alchemy to Asian shamanic tradition which in turn originates out of the Bushmen original human trance dance culture. In Africa - rocks have a long tradition of shamanic power. I'm remembering a book by Lyall Watson about a white man who went to Africa where he was initiated as a shaman due to his epilepsy and he was taught the secret of rocks. "Lightning Bird" 1981. alchemy originates out of Ethiopia and then spread into Egypt - alchemy originates from the original Bushmen culture. Originally it was wrong to "hoard the N/om" as the power was used to heal the females. Sometimes males would go off alone and hoard the n/om and thereby built up their yang shen bodies as alchemy - and everyone else was afraid of these alchemists as they can manifest in lions, etc. essentially this power is to be like a stone - the rainbow body is created but even then taken deeper as a black hole spacetime transformation into a white hole. For the Egyptians the pyramid power is based on the limestone encasing the granite for a yin-yang energy dynamic or as Philip Callahan discovered - diamagnetic attracting paramagnetic energy - thereby enabling the pharaoh to mimic the rebirth of the sun - as a golden immortal body. yuan shen and yuan qi fused is considered the original golden immortal yang shen body that pulverizes the physical body and then returns to its formless origin. This formless yuan qi origin can survive nuclear explosions even - or supernovas. So it is something like a graviton or a time-frequency resonance as a black hole turning into a white hole most probably via gamma radiation. As the book of Thomas quotes Jesus - look under a rock and you will find me. The imperial Roman Church denounces the book as a "fake" - well maybe the church is the fake. I read Peter Marshall's book "The PHilospher's Stone" but that is more an overview of the various alchemical traditions rather than a real practice book like Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality. http://www.whenthenewsstops.org/2013/04/the-philosophers-stone-a-quest-for.html The "elixir of life" is another term for the philosopher's stone. From this we can infer that the philosopher's stone is the replenishing of Yuan Jing - after the cerebrospinal fluid is enfused with the Yuan Qi emanating out of the pineal gland and the Yuan Shen in the front of the brain (usually emanating out of the eyes) then this ambrosia flows out of the roof of the mouth (via the closing of the upper magpie bridge) as the ambrosia which is swallowed. The lower tan tien then absorbs the energy from the back wall of the stomach - and thereby creates the philsopher's stone. There have been various claims of "monoatomic gold" recently - but in reality this is just a macroquantum fusion process. The Siddhas of southern India are more likely to provide us with better clues about the Amrita or ambrosia. My guess is it relies on lecithin - as this is how electrical eels hold their charge - and lecithin is the primary ingredient of reproductive fluid along with the primary ingredient of the brain and spinal cord.... While there is a possible "external path" as given example in Wang Liping's "Opening the Dragon Gate" - and the original qigong master shared how he too took a strong medicine which was life-threatening but after he survived it, his qi channels were cleared out and so he was able to better see the Yuan Shen in his lower tan tien all the time. This is how the Yuan Qi is build up - by the laser resonance of the Yuan Shen fusing with its formless source. https://books.google.com/books?id=ges6XgLkffEC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=india+dravidian+alchemy&source=bl&ots=RodN1yuj7b&sig=P6wIkMHOvqqqhuVIzMPbSAaB3Ek&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCk7GRmfbJAhXJHh4KHUN2AqAQ6AEILDAD#v=onepage&q=india%20dravidian%20alchemy&f=false Recipies for Immortality - an academic book on south Indian alchemy may provide us more clues. lots there on siddha medicine. The Elixir of Immortality: A Modern-Day Alchemist’s Discovery of the Philosopher’s Stone https://books.google.com/books?id=0wJMiyEpODQC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=robert+e.+cox+soma+moon&source=bl&ots=PMTrHM2T3V&sig=wkHtbzl4IHVM56yUTRR1IFIIW_M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1rOe1pfbJAhXGFj4KHYBNCZUQ6AEIIDAB#v=onepage&q=robert%20e.%20cox%20soma%20moon&f=false so this vedic expert confirms that indeed Soma is the lunar cerebrospinal fluid as amrita - for immortality.