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You got fancy formatting and photos - but no references. I was talking about rhythm as sense of time - that's why I said Michael Corballis, the scientist, discussing the left hand as setting the rhythm and so it's a right brain activity. and you: So keeping a beat to music has a lot to do with time - it is right brain dominant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_neuroscience_of_music#Rhythm But timing and movement and emotions are actually more closely connected in the cerebellum - which has its own cortex also - it's like a 2nd brain with the pineal gland as its eye. This ties into the hippocampus and amygdala for our sense of time and memory storage: Burkhard Bilger, “The Possibilian: What a brush with death taught David Eagleman about the mysteries of time and the brain,” The New Yorker, April 25, 2011. So that is the connection between jing and time that you are talking about. You sublimate the adrenal energy into the brain - in the case of fear the huge burst of adrenaline and dopamine then over stimulates the dopamine neurons of the amgydala which actually damages the memory storage process. So then you get into the brain scientist Persinger with whom I've also corresponded - he is promoting the Actual Matrix Plan a la Puharich - which builds on the holographic brain model of Pribram: So memory as a time function is not stored "in" the brain but rather in the spirit - holographically - so that time becomes eternal as a 2-dimensional wave form function of frequency. This is the eternal time of Fourier Uncertainty in science from the Law of Pythagoras - wave amplitude time as inverse to energy frequency. So time is converted to eternal frequency as de Broglie showed with the Law of Phase Harmony - you then can get reverse time from the future. That is how a black hole turns into a white hole - when you resonate with enough qi into your shen the shen actually is able to travel into your own future so you have precognitive visions of the future - this is holographic as energy frequency. In other words the less time you experience the more energy frequency you experience. Jing is amplitude energy while shen is frequency energy - to convert it to western terms. So when we have jing shen - that is the lower emotional shen spirit energy tied to lower emotional frequency energy of the lower organs - the yin qi energy. So in that sense time moves fast since it is dopamine based energy with more stress. So to access the deep memories of the holographic field that merges the human brain with the spirit energy - it is also right brain dominant. It is subjectively paradoxical - the faster the frequency that the brain is working to store memories - the slower time is experienced. This paradox is also explained by the very close location - one molecule difference in the brain - between smell perception and memory storage - causing a very strong activation of memory by smell - but at a frequency scale much faster than we process time subjectively. The smell perception goes directly to the limbic brain and this is very close to the memory processing so that a smell will trigger a subconscious memory association – before the smell is consciously perceived. As Dr. Stuart Hameroff points out the “conscious” awareness of smell as quantum perception occurs at a higher frequency than most of the normal subconscious brain functions: Stuart Hameroff, “The Conscious Pilot – dendritic synchrony moves through the brain to mediate consciousness,” J. Biol Phys, January 2010. And so the classical left brain consciousness of smell then goes into a quantum perception that is normally subconscious - with the qigong training it becomes increasingly conscious so that smell is tied directly into the holographic shen energy. So the Bushmen original humans talk about smelling love - this is why that is the case - the sense of smell is the most direct connection to the quantum holographic high frequency energy. Qigong masters can smell cancer and can even smell over the phone. So a logathmic phase singularity is the same thing as what a rainbow does as shen spirit energy - it's why rainbows are so important for shen energy - rainbows are created by this singularity that converts the amplitude jing into quantum shen energy. Black holes turning into white holes are also logarithmic phase singularities. So what happens during the day with our eyes awake is that our shen spirit is holographically recording subconsciously - as emotional memory - everything that takes place and storing that shen spirit information in our yin qi organs as jing shen energy. So then every night there has to be an exorcism of these yin qi shen blockages - so through qigong meditation then there is conscious awareness of the quantum information holographic storage. The analogy is of developing film. So you need to develop photos in a dark room - the same with meditation. If you just shine light on the film without meditation this is too traumatic for the film - your subconscious memories. As Professor Joseph LeDoux has discovered: John Brockman, “Parallel Memories: Putting Emotions Back Into The Brain, A Talk With Joseph LeDoux,” The Third Culture, 2/17/1997. and so like savants - in meditation - the memory retrieval of subconscious holographic shen data is an automatic process of this cerebellum pineal gland and lower body connection. We consciously sublimate the jing energy to turn it into yin qi by the pineal gland and by doing so we also consciously process and become aware consciously of the subconscious memory storage. This process literally reverses time - and a qigong master can literally travel back in time to experience and see the source of an injury - before a person was actually injured - and the qigong master can then heal the blockage at the origin before it even occurred - effectively reversing the time physically of the person who had stored that blockage. So this savant ability is a right brain dominant ability but also a "lower" brain function that is not based on the neocortex but rather the limbic and cerebellum brain. So then the Mozart Effect in music is 60 beats per minute - as the slow Baroque music - which then causes an alpha brain spike in amplitude with strong serotonin causing right brain and heart dominance enabling fast memorization abilities in a trance state. So timing is very much right brain dominant. The sense of time is paradoxical and I think that is what you are referring to. Hameroff who you have mentioned and with whom I have corresponded a couple times - he argues that the Alpha, Delta, Theta brain waves of EEGS are actually subharmonics of this quantum ultrasound coupling. I actually sent him the ultrasound resonance connection of inner sound brain resonance and microtubules - he already had noted this - how he discovered that ultrasound harmonics resonate the quantum consciousness of the brain. So that quantum holographic memory storage is the body consciousness that Dr. Mae-Wan Ho refers to - much faster than nerve conduction signalling - and the secret to the meridian channels in the body. Mae-Wan Ho (Ph.D.)Bioelectrodynamics Laboratory, Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, U.K., David P. Knight (Ph.D.) Dept. of Biological Sciences, King Alfred's College, Winchester SO22 4NR, U.K. [Nov. 2000], “The Acupuncture System and The Liquid Crystalline Collagen Fibres of the Connective Tissues: Liquid Crystalline Meridians” American Journal of Complementary Medicine (in press, 2000). What is happening then is a nonlinear feedback where the subharmonics of ultrasound are in the ELF waves that resonate the yin qi energy of the Earth - the yang jing energy - and thereby also tap into the right brain deep memory holographic information storage. So the quantum - ultrasound - holographic shen information is activated by at the same time, through this turning of the light around - the laser energy of biophotons as shen energy - creates this conversion of black hole into white hole information - we become consciously aware of the information through meditation - that otherwise would be subconscious. Alex Tsakiris, 133. Dr. Stuart Hameroff On Quantum Consciousness and Moving Singularity Goal Posts,” Skeptiko Podcast, April 11, 2011. Sony announced that ultrasound ionization is the key for a new Matrix technology in development.379 The inner ear transduction which also uses ultrasound is now considered a “sixth sense” – proprioception – for new technologies (i.e. the Brain Port) already enabling paranormal realities – 360 degree night vision for Army rangers, seeing with the tongue underwater for Navy seals, and exchanging information directly through the atmosphere from the brain – telepathy.380 As the article states: “There’s a reasonably wellaccepted sixth sense (or fifth and a half, at least) called proprioception. A network of nerves, in conjunction with the inner ear, tells the brain where the body and all its parts are and how they’re oriented.” These Brain Ports are being developed for military use and a new type is now relying on ultrasound So the inner ear listening activates the vagus nerve which connects to the pineal gland - and by listening and closing the eyes the light is turned around - but it is reversing this otherwise storage of Shen holographic information blockages in the yin qi organs. John Brockman, “Parallel Memories: Putting Emotions Back Into The Brain, A Talk With Joseph LeDoux,” The Third Culture, 2/17/1997. O.K. so qigong reverses this process. Phra Achun Mun said the best place to meditate was in the place of fear of death. Why? Because sitting in full lotus activately resonates the jing energy and converts the dopamine into serotonin instead of the dopamine into cortisol - the stress spike from ejaculation. So by trance dancing the legs vibrate at ELF frequency - 7 beats per second - and this pushes the stress sympathetic nerves to their extreme - like a fear of death - but then it causes a rebound to the opposite extreme of relaxation - of the parasympathetic nervous - with no ejaculation. This causes the lower body dopamine to convert to serotonin as internal bliss which shoots up the cerebrospinal fluid and the increased serotonin causes increased activation of the pineal gland. When it builds up it then activates the left side reptilian vagus nerve that goes to the right side of the heart. That activates then the deep holographic spirit shen memories of the heart pineal gland connection - so when the qi energy of the heart builds up then it turns from a black hole into a white hole - the yuan shen on the left side of the heart. The reptilian vagus nerve on the left side of the brain going down to the right side of the heart - that is the deep fear reaction when reptiles play dead. For humans this is mainly not advantageous which is why the person in trance needs to have their body protected - in a cave or surrounded by supportive people, in a safe home, etc. On the other hand a qigong spiritual master can then read a person's life like pages in a book by accessing the eternal shen information storage through their heart - this is most easily done by looking deep into the eyes as the Yuan Shen manifests out of someone's eyes - but you can also just put your hand on their heart as the Bushmen spiritual master did to Andrew Zimmern.

You ask me - if you're supposed to "track down" my every reference - well I give the references so it's not so much a matter of tracking them down - I mean you're talking about accessibility which is slightly different. The book you ordered ILL is actually online as a free pdf - all I did was search the quote that you want to know the context of. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEIQFjAFahUKEwiYs7C4r-vGAhULMIgKHfqLAYc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.angelino.com%2Fregenciaorquestral%2FBiblioteca%2FPlato%2520on%2520Music%2C%2520Soul%2520and%2520Body.pdf&ei=ZcitVdjsE4vgoAT6l4a4CA&usg=AFQjCNFDn1p-2iiHQscg4stOiCh3mNlJxQ&sig2=D1zGimOW0mGWuWHQM69bqg&bvm=bv.98476267,d.cGU pdf link Search the quote and you get the book online. So then I read the book more for context and I pulled more quotes - but the power went out here. Anyway - the book makes the exact point I made - that Plato relies on Archytas for Plato's view of music - and not just music but Plato's philosophy of his World Soul - he get's it from Archytas' harmonics. So you say - do you have to track down my references? well in a sense - if you want to understand Plato then you do need to understand Archytas harmonics. I guess I got lucky since I approached Plato already understanding harmonics. But anyway so what the book says actually just corroborates my masters thesis - but my masters thesis was not radical enough. See - you really do need to "unlearn" a lot here - it takes time to unlearn. So first of all - the actual book - that you want more context of. So I'll word search it Archytas - since like I said I had already pulled a bunch of quotes. p. 147 of that book which is online. o.k. so let's go through my references. So you dug up my John Franklin Curtis quote - I have others - but I also corresponded with him regarding Ernest McClain's research. So he is referencing - Curtis Franklin is it? The older Western Asian traditions - and so also older Greek traditions. So is Peter Kingsley. My masters thesis also free online: Kingsley: and and Kingsley on Plato: and then in my footnotes: O.K. so I have cited numerous scholars documenting Plato relying on Archytas - and Archytas redefining Pythagorean philosophy as a closed system of "preestablished deep disharmony" to quote math professor Luigi Borzacchini. Yeah I got about a dozen references on this math-music secret of Plato teaching Archtyas' harmonics as the World Soul and also the eugenics that goes with it and also the economic system that goes with it. In other words Plato is the secret source of the trajectory of Western Civilization - that is well known - but what is the real power of Plato - it is this origin of the Greek Miracle from music theory!! My blog post on the Devil's Interval gives more details. Do you want to engage with my references? It's up to you. The information is radical. Most people "plug" Plato - but that is because they don't really understand Pythagorean philosophy from an Orthodox perspective - which is also Taoist philosophy. Kingsley again: Kingsley notes, This connection with Taoism is also made explicit by the motif of the Pythagorean master Empedocles who,

The fusion is yuan qi which is electromagnetic force and yuan shen which is light. Light does not have mass but it has momentum - and it is consciousness as spirit - so when light is focused on the yin/yang resonance through alchemy training it creates a spacetime vortex which then creates mass as yuan jing. Science shows this with gamma rays colliding creating mass. That's what is stored in the lower tan tien - it can get hard as I have read - and also since it gets very hot then you don't want cold water as it scorches the lower tan tien. Andrew Zimmern witnessed the original human culture spiritual healer eating burning hot coals - the sonofusion energy works with water as the Leidenfrost Effect - so the fusion heat creates a vapor layer of water that protects the body. The heat energy is produced from frequency intensity or pressure - so if you increase frequency then mass increases but at the smaller scale the gravitational force takes over and it creates a mini- black hole that turns into a white hole.

http://www.healingtaousa.com/articles/taoalchemy_ch07.html This article talks about the jing shen - that's what I'm referring to - the yin qi and jing shen of the lower emotional holographic energy needs to be fused to activate the yuan shen of the heart via the lower tan tien.

my understanding is it's when the moonlight is full of yuan qi as the White Tiger energy - becoming yang shen. So it's creating the golden immortal body -

What gets left out - like in the above list of attainments - is the very first step of practice which most people never even achieve. That is called Laying the Foundation - which means to just fill up the yin qi energy of the Ocean of Qi below the lower tan tien - this is to restore Yuan Jing and open up the Yin Heel channels. When you achieve that then you can sit in full lotus as long as you want and begin the real training - of converting jing to qi and activate the Lower Tan Tien as the fusion of Yuan Qi and Yuan Shen.

Precelestial or prenatal or yuan shen and yuan qi originate beyond the heart - the yuan qi originates on the right side of the heart, a pinhole to the Emptiness of the Universe. Yuan Shen originates beyond the left side of the heart. So Wang Liping says to sit 6 hours of full lotus meditation a day to restore Yuan Jing in the lower tan tien - this is restored as I just described in my last post - from the yuan qi and yuan shen which both manifest in the brain - the yuan shen in the front of the brain and out the eyes, the yuan qi in the pineal gland. So the MCO or small universe cycle is this restoration process - the Ocean of Qi or Conception Vessel is the yuan jing as yin jing energy that is sublimated and purified - sublimated through Quick Fire method - standing active exercise. So the first step is the build up the yin qi energy of the Yin Heel channel that goes into the Conception Vessel or the Ocean of Qi below the lower tan tien. Full lotus is a combination of movement and stillness practice - as the pressure on the legs and hips cause numbness which then opens up the channels again but full lotus also stabilizes an Emptiness meditation to enable going beyond just shen. The Emptiness is this eternal process of yin-yang complementary opposites which does not change. The question is are we refining or replenishing our energy or losing it? The Lower Tan tien is the Cavity of Spirit-Vitality where the fusion of the yuan qi and yuan shen energy is stored. Normally the heart's fire is lost out of the eyes and these thoughts of desire from the yuan shen and yin qi out of the eyes then cause the yuan qi to shoot down the spine and turn the yin jing into generative fluid. So with the eyes closed the yuan shen goes down to the liver which turns into Green Dragon energy by converting the yin jing of the kidneys into yin qi (yang jing). Through deeper breathing and Emptiness intention of the spleen/pancreas the yin qi rises up to the lungs as White Tiger - which creates the saliva ambrosia (Yuan Jing) that brings down the Yuan Shen from the heart and the Yuan qi from the pineal gland - and does so by the tongue against the roof of the mouth. We see this as an external process but in reality it is holographic also - so when the jing is converted to qi on a deep level and the heart really opens up then a loud OHM sound is heard and the shen astral energy is activated of the pineal gland. When the jing energy fills up and blasts open the pineal gland to access the shen realm this is like an explosion - but the process works through sonofusion. I wrote a book on this called Alchemy of Rainbow Heart Music: How Paranormal Sonofusion Subverts the Matrix Conspiracy. But that book, free pdf online, is more from a Western perspective as I had not studied the Taoist Yoga book enough and traditional alchemy training. It is the qi that powers the shen so for the original qigong master he said first the whole cave filled with light and then he traveled into heaven and it was the best time of his life - and he got many lessons from many spiritual masters. So that's why the qigong masters do full lotus meditation 4 hours every night and sleep only 4 hours. Wang Liping, Yan Xin, etc. When you activate the yuan qi energy and begin converting jing to qi for real from the lower tan tien filled up with yin qi energy - then you can go with less sleep. It's just that you can go into dreamless sleep for longer periods of time through conscious meditation and so you are restoring your energy faster. So then sleep is when the shen goes down to the liver and if the shen is not purified it causes loss of the jing energy - and so meditation is basically guiding the shen for purification with Emptiness focus so that jing energy is restored instead of lost as nocturnal emission. When the qi energy builds up then dreams become more real than being awake - dreams become precognitive visions that bend spacetime - as we tap more into our subconscious desires that will be fulfilled in the future then the Emptiness reveals itself to us as our own future being played out. Also if the third eye really opens up then dead spirits can be seen, etc. and all the normal perceptions are magnified - like a person can smell cancer or even smell over the phone as the qigong master can do. So that is why for advanced meditation they fast as an energy buildup process - converting jing to qi - through Emptiness focus as the Emptiness focus of the pineal gland (through one-pointed concentrated thought) increases the Yuan Qi which then increases the Yuan Shen which then increases the Yuan Jing in the lower tan tien. The final stage then creates more yang shen bodies - other physical transformations and the qi energy gets so strong that the original physical body is vaporized and a new golden immortal body as the fusion of yuan qi and yuan shen is achieved.

Shen is lost at death through the anus if a person does not have enough qi to raise the shen up in the body. Bodri says it's best to clench the teeth when crapping as the clenching of the teeth causes the qi to raise up in the body and thereby also the shen. The yuan jing has to be restored first - this is from the ambrosia flowing down the roof of the mouth via the sinus cavity - it is the cerebrospinal fluid infused with the yuan qi and yuan shen together - it goes into the stomach and then the qi and shen is absorbed into the lower tan tien. So you sublimate the yin jing into the brain via the cerebrospinal fluid, the pineal gland Emptiness focus of the brain turns the yin jing into yin qi which increases the shen you see internally - the fusion of the shen and qi then causes increased pressure of the cerebrospinal fluid which flows out of the sinus cavity via the tongue against roof of the mouth that activates the vagus nerve causing increased saliva flow. The original qigong master went 2 months with no sleep - just in full lotus meditation in a cave - http://springforestqigong.com - he said his master checked on him spiritually to make sure he was not sleeping - sleep was not allowed!

The whole concept of "retaining semen" is WRONG. Celibacy is based on transforming as you say. 1) stop using this phrase "retaining semen" 2) you don't want to create any semen in the first place. Any thoughts of reproduction cause the pineal gland to shoot Yuan Qi down the spine to convert your yin jing (ocean of qi or conception vessel) into generative fluid - 3) practice horse stance with thighs parallel to ground as much as possible - only QUICK FIRE method has the power to transform generative fluid back into yin jing. Quick Fire is deep fast reverse breathing kicking in when legs are vibrating 7 times a second from the extreme rebound of sympathetic nervous system to opposite parasympathetic relaxation extreme. 4) focus on Emptiness as the eternal yin-yang harmonization process of energy creation - so when you start seeing light this is from the yin qi created from the yin jing being ionized by the above extreme parasympathetic nervous system rebound - inner bliss. 5) any thoughts of reproduction - practice anal flexing - this is the Lower Magpie Bridge - it connects the front and back channels to sublimate the yin jing energy back into the conception vessel. 6) when qi moves out of the lower tan tien it turns into generative fluid - so the more you store up yin qi then the more generative fluid it will reverse to when the above are not followed. Conversely the more you sublimate and purify - the more qi you create.

I wasn't clean - I meant animals keeping a steady beat to music. So when the youtube vid of the parrot bobbing its head in time with music came out this was considered a breakthrough by science. http://phys.org/news/2014-05-animals-humans-sync-music.html

Most people don't even accumulate jing so to say you don't have to accumulate shen is a bit misleading. Jing has to be filled, then qi, and then shen. If you want to talk in terms of purification - then that means no loss of jing, which then purifies the qi, etc. but the traditional saying is "full of jing" etc. which implies accumulation or replenishing. An example:

it's actually 700 plus somebody posted it on scribd for free. Rereading it - I find my recent alchemy study makes Measuring Meditation easier to understand. But I would say what unifies humanity is the 1-4-5 music intervals - not Mahayana Buddhism. Plus Nan said that if the physical body is sick at death then the mind can not be emptied out due to lack of qi and so the samadhi is not lasting and the spirit just goes into the void instead of enlightenment. That's quite pertinent to the topic considering it shows you need the qi to give power to the shen or else the shen becomes delusional at death in a ghost dream state. I have seen these ghosts floating around the original qigong master, going to him to get healed - I suppose attracted to his qi energy. Anyway then Nan died of physical illness as he was a smoker and got pneumonia. So he didn't really live up to his teaching - too bad. But still a fascinating read. So earlier in the thread I mentioned how Taoist Yoga says the left hand is the yuan shen channel - the center of the hand. Bodri and Nan talk about the left big toe as key to brain visualization - and this would be part of the yin qi and yuan shen channel I think also. I then realized that actually Michael Corballis the scientist talks about how people keep track of time with the left hand - and so when making a beat with the hands, the left hand keeps a steady beat to keep track of time while the right hand does syncopation. So the left hand is right brain dominant which makes sense as a Yuan Shen channel since the right brain is visualization dominant but the left hand is also time dominant - and if we think about it light - at the speed of light the sense of time stops into eternity - and so real visualization is a sense of eternity. The time-frequency aspect is right brain dominant through light but is accessed through music as keeping time - rhythm. For a long time it was thought other animals could not keep track of time - but they learn that some birds can do so - and the question is how language is learned and what this has to do with time. There are a lot of quantum biology secrets out there - but I'm just saying that the big left toe secret mentioned in the book is based on the same secret of the left hand as the yuan shen but also the yin qi energy of the heart's fire. The toe channels have to open up as the yin heel channels - the yin qi energy building up as the first step in the alchemy training.

Measuring meditation is title of his 900 page tome on nans mahayana supreme enlightenment training in comparison with other traditions

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Its right before yang shen leaves the body. The original qigong master described this happening to him.

Referring to me in third person is rude. Am i ur secondary source? Haha also saying someone is a great military leader is also a great moral leader is pretty funny. Finally the original source shud not be a written text. That's silly. U quote plato as if that means u can decide the meaning urself whereas i quote half a dozen different experts all agreeing what plato says. Sure slavery was moral in the u.s. by people quoting king james bible as an original text. To be against slavery meant to rely on secondary sources. It's the same issue with plato. Robert schmidt documented that plato's greek is multiphase so an exact translation is not possible. But the music ratios and math that i cite from plato are not only clear but the secret core of his philosophy. The 1-4-5 music ratios are the real morals of what unites humanity its oral language that is right brain dominant so directly translates subconscious emotions. Trance spirituality of modern humans goes back to 125,000 years ago but you need some original text for the truth. Hilarious. Written language is what shuts off the brain from uniting with the heart thru trance. The slow music of china is like baroque here for mozart effect, alpha brain wave heart activation thru right brain serotonin dominance and visualization. U want left brain meditation. That is o.k. but has to rely on internal listening still. Not on some written text. Left brain logic is circular without syncopated rhythm like heart beat. So changes in frequency are not harmonized by a written text. The energy is the subconscious intent behind words. Chariot warfare is not morality but the male is controlled by repressed desire and ejaculation. It's a physiological problem and music is then language of emotional morality. words are inherently hypocritical. Then ten based nbr system in china and india with chariots does show that in the bronze age and early iron and mixing, certainly the red haired skeletons show this incursion. Patriarchal culture spread into china but it definitely wasnt the source of taoism. written language is inherently patriarchal due to the left brain right hand dominance.

This is a typical Western New Age imposition on Taoism. Hilarious!!!! Just as you tried to impose your muons and classical physics onto Taoism. Hilarious!!!! People like to spew a bunch of lies. You say "only" the de Broglie model shows real non-local entanglement? Oh wait - that is some unattributable quote you posted - try posting links with quotes. If that is true then only the de Broglie model is correct. haha. Certainly the foundation of reality is not defined by quanta particles. I posted the experiments yes - science has proven a non-local entanglement foundation to reality. http://www.wired.com/2014/06/the-new-quantum-reality/ Check out this new article - "We have been interpreting quantum mechanics wrong the whole time?" When it says We - that also means you in this thread. haha. Not me though. So if you want to throw out science terms next time - refer to this stuff. You didn't read the article very closely. and you misunderstand me again: The "Law of Pythagoras" is not the same as Orthodox Pythagorean teachings. I'm not trying to say Pythagoras contributed to "science" - quite the contrary - Western science is based on a big lie about Orthodox Pythagorean teachings which were akin to real Taoism. http://www.spaceandmotion.com/Physics-Louis-de-Broglie.htm De Broglie was at the foundation of quantum physics - his analysis is based on Fourier Uncertainty which is the foundation of quantum physics. You keep referring to the particle - but I already showed you a new experiment that has proven that the first particle is actually a non-local wave. More proof for you. So claiming any particle at the foundation of reality is a lie about science along with a lie about Taoism. You're projecting your wrong classical physics bias onto Taoism. You say I'm getting off topic - I'm not the one who spewed the lies on this thread - so I have a responsibility to point the lies out.

Scholars might use Kingsley but I haven't seen any who actually accept his views outright - please give some names. Solar patriarchy is based on plowing the earth as a male task whereas previously horticulture was female based - and with cow-based plowing the religion was to contain infinity or Nature using geometric-based mathematics - and the solar calendar to guide the farming. So then a good comparative study is Suns of God. But this patriarchy is built in the mathematics - and as a mass sacrifice ritual it is based on a "divide and average" convergence to a geometric materialist limit as infinity - and so God is from Gott as Bull just as Brahman means Bull - and this is from the male plow farming. My book gives more details. Here's a Marvin Harris essay, “The evolution of human gender hierarchies,” from the book Sex and Gender Hierarchies (Cambridge U Press, 1993): and Deborah Fahy Bryceson , Women Wielding the Hoe: Lessons from Rural Africa for Feminist Theory and Development Practice (Cross-Cultural Perspectives on Women), (Berg Publishers, 1995). http://www.lulu.com/shop/drew-hempel/the-natural-resonance-revolution/paperback/product-6224705.html My earlier book shud have more details. “The sun is sick” is a phrase taken from the Turkana, a Nilotic East African tribe who practice an early form of animal domestication. The undigested food from the animal entrails must be sprinkled on newly killed goats whenever there is a lunar eclipse of the sun. This ritual sacrifice is called “atona” and maybe one of the earliest forms of organized religion. The shamanic music of the Turkana is similar to the Khoisan San healing, with the men stomping around in a circle and the women in a circle surrounding the men. The Khoisan culture, going back 100,000 years, has been traced to have close genetic connections with the Ethiopians as well. The play on words and meaning by the Turkana is that when there is an eclipse of the sun by the moon then a goat must be sacrificed in order to protect the son from the all encompassing power of Nature – making Nature therefore “evil” as in the eves or eve – the literally containment or squaring of Nature. As was explained in the last chapter on science as Freemasonic mass ritual sacrifice – religion came before agriculture – the concept of rectlinear sacred geometry was an attempt to “contain” the formless infinity of Nature – power that linked the electrochemical energy of the female lunar cycle with the formless awareness

Yeah - so you make a claim but you don't want to provide any evidence. I provide the quotes from the books and you say you're done and I'm delusional. So then you refer to the book more specifically - a page number! Let's direct quote it again: p. 191-2. So notice nowhere does it say "in front of the third eye." Now what it does say is the same thing I already quoted and what I already quoted had a follow up question. What is the EXACT location of the original cavity of spirit - yes it is between and behind the eyes - but it is NOT in front of the third eye: the third eye is the original cavity of spirit - the pearl a size of the grain of rice - the pineal gland in the center of the brain.

The text does not - and never says that the Original Cavity of Spirit is "behind the eyes and in front of the third eye" - you have made this up. I'm amazed at what length people will twist the meaning of Taoist YOga to suit their own egotistical obstructions. Don't get me wrong - I made the same mistake for years about my "O at a Ds" - and not until I returned to really study the Taoist Yoga book did I correct my errors. It takes a lot of psychological gumption to really bare down and study the MEANING of the Taoist Yoga book. Let's quote the book directly - which you have not done so yet: p. 3 o.k. the pineal gland is in the center of the brain. p. 4 The pineal gland is the size of a grain of rice in the center of the brain. Now what you are referring to is the pituitary gland. I made this same error back in 2000 - you can see this in my article published from 2000. I rediscovered this error recently rereading my article. http://nonduality.com/whatis8.htm So there it is. So at that point in my training I had confused the pituitary gland which is in front of the pineal gland - with the third eye - no it is the pineal gland that is the size of a grain of rice in the center of the brain, not the pituitary gland.

Eric Lerner is interesting but he is proposing some kind of electrogravitic model - I reference him in my research - based on fluid dynamics, inspired by chaos mathematics. I made this error in my masters thesis when I equated the logistic equations of chaos math with the tai chi symbol. It wasn't until several years later that I "unlearned" this error - even though the tai chi symbol can be created by logistic symmetric math - as I reference in my masters thesis - that does not mean that the tai chi symbol is equated with such symmetric math. Eric Lerner's model of cosmology is still a classical physics model. I agree with what you say about language - I mean strictly the Orthodox Pythagoreans required 9 years of silence. To wit - the best plan would be for me to ignore all the lies on the internet about equating alchemy with particles of western science, etc. and instead for me to practice 9 years of silence. haha. Obviously that type of silence I can also not practice in my "real" life. I mean even the silence required of Buddhist monks does not preclude writing for them - which for me is a false silence. Real silence should avoid any kind of symmetric-based logical thinking even in writing terms. I do type in full lotus which does help - but not all the time - if I have recently eaten then I avoid full lotus so as to digest without the waste just going to the head from my stomach. So I searched eric lerner and my name and I discovered an interesting post I made: https://concen.org/oldforum/thread-4354.html This is what qigong master Jim Nance means when he says on his website that the information of the whole universe is contained within a single cell. http://www.guidingqi.com/welcome-pacific/

Your definition of quantum physics based on particles shows your bias - you say you didn't "leave it out" - I never said you left out quantum physics - I said that you did not make quantum physics the foundation of your science analysis. Planck's constant is based on a materialist definition that does not address the foundation of quantum physics from Fourier Uncertainty as discovered by Louis de Broglie. Namely - as light accelerates by going higher in frequency then time slows down according to Einstein's relativity. De Broglie realized this violates a basic fundamental principle of science - the Law of Pythagoras that time as wavelength is inverse to frequency as energy. So if frequency is getting higher and bigger then wavelength as time should be getting smaller and faster but the opposite occurs in relativity. So de Broglie reasoned that because relativity is real then there must be two time clocks - one that is faster than the speed of light which then goes back in reverse time and harmonizes the time in sync with frequency. De Broglie called this the Law of Phase Harmony. This phenomenon explains precognition - and it also explains that energy is fundamentally a wave - not a particle - a unified wave as a nondual experience. And guess what - science just confirmed this is true - that the nonlocal wave of energy is more fundamental than the photon particle that Einstein got the nobel prize for and was the basis for the "quanta" that you use to define quantum physics. https://plus.google.com/113210754710939771474/posts/BMhEEXFdzEM The Law of Phase Harmony has to be converted back into Western classical physics using the Poisson Bracket - so I'm not talking about any model at all. I'm saying that quantum physics rediscovered the truth of nonlocal complementary opposites (of time and frequency) as the opposite extreme of actual Taoist training. Remember it is you who say you want to use "quanta" to describe yin and yang as physical matter - but time and frequency are non-local uncertainties based on non-commutative math which means that the order in which you measure them changes their value. So then consciousness in the measurement process directly is part of the "experiment." So quantum physics justifies this quantum entanglement by saying the information signal is only measured "after the fact" and so that linear causality of relativity is not violated. That is true - but quantum physics logically infers the truth of a nondual reality. This is detailed in Bernard D'Espagnat's quantum physics analysis: http://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2009/mar/17/templeton-quantum-entanglement Thanks for completely not understanding what I was writing. The energy that I might not have enough of yet - is the Yuan Qi energy. The reason there is dizziness is from using up too much Yuan Qi - it wasn't that I didn't have enough of it "yet" - it is because I used too much of it already doing healing on other people. This also happened to the qigong master. You speak of your experiences - but you don't have any corroboration - other than posting online. The practices I did have been corroborated by the qigong masters who taught me. No again that is not what I said. Number is based on complementary opposites and I said "one is not a number." I never said that 0=1 which is again a symmetric number argument. Zero does not exist - that's why Aristotle was against zero as a "negative void" materialistic foundation of reality. The concept of zero assumes a commutative symmetric property of number analysis. It seems you have not really thought about the foundations of Western science. You want to use Western science to spread alchemy training but you have not really thought about why Western science is different. You were the one you threw out science terms to say that you didn't want to use "archaic" terminology. I never said that quantum physics makes Taoist Yoga sound legitimate - on the contrary quantum physics is the opposite extreme of Taoist Yoga. Also you claim I am reciting "ad nauseum" passages - on the contrary I am presenting information based on clarifying and arguing specifics about what the Yuan Shen is compared to the Yuan Qi. If you can prevent any evidence for this claim - go ahead - otherwise you are resorting to just a sophistry attack with no substance. Notice how you throw out a bunch of pop science quantum "models" that you want me to consider and yet the quantum scientists I refer you to are not even in your list? You claim to understand quantum physics but you don't. I've studied all those models you refer to but they ignore the fundamental issue at hand. Your comment here demonstrates a bourgeois mind-controlled approach to technology just as you did with your shopping around for quantum models. Technology is imposed as a supply-side structure by the elite using Western mathematics - I call this the trajectory of tantric technology. So for example a person has to have a cell phone these days just to be considered a "normal" person - and living without a t.v. would be considered bizarre - unless you rely on some other form for watching media, etc. Supply side economics is built into the logarithmic technology - this goes back to Platonic philosophy. As for your Matrix comments which you try to side-step - again you brought up the metaphor. I already did an Actual Matrix Plan expose based on my masters thesis research. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_matrix43.htm As for classical physics being inherently disharmonious - that is due to the symmetric mathematical logic that is the basis for classical physics. I'm not making that up as my own opinion: Professor Brozacchini wrote a book on this called Plato's Computer. It's in Italian but I've read his music math analysis and I've corresponded with him about my own music math analysis. Luigi Borzacchini's Home Page - Dipartimento di Matematica

Lisa Ann Raphals, Knowing words: wisdom and cunning in the classical traditions of China and Greece (Cornell University Press, 1992), p. 18. O.K. so just as with Plato changing the meaning of Pythagorean philosophy, we see the same solar-patriarchal transformation in China through the philosopher Dong Zongshu in the 2nd Century B.C. Philosophy professor David L. Hall documents that Zongshu changed the meaning of yin-yang from being a fluid process of resonance with equal but complementary gender relations to being a static hierarchical axiom based on left-brained patriarchal logic. The book The Tao and the Logos : literary hermeneutics, East and West by Chang, Lung-hsi (1992) documents that it was Dong Zongshu who was the most important philosopher to make patriarchal Confucionism the dominant ideology of China.

O.K. so the claim that Platonic philosophy has any kind of relation to Taoism is totally crazy. Plato practice gay sex and he preached irrational magnitude mathematics - neither has nothing to do with Taoism. Plato was all about sucking off the energy of younger males. He was misogynist. You quote Plato and Socrates saying number and calculation are the most important connection to philosophy - how does that contradict the "secondary quote" I posted? It doesn't at all - and you ignored what kind of number and calculation. Irrational magnitude is how Plato defined the Emptiness - that is the antithesis of Taoism. Irrational magnitude was the foundation of Plato's philosophy - he got it from Archytas. Carl A. Huffman, Archytas of Tartenum: Pythagorean, Philosopher and Mathematician King (Cambridge University Press, 2005). Huffman argues that Plato and Archytas were host-friends and competitive colleagues -- with Archytas stressing the practical side of Pythagorean harmonics while Plato emphasized the pure philosophy of Pythagorean Number. Both Plato and Archytas were relying on Philolaus and therefore were not “orthodox” Pythagoreans. Cherry-picking Plato? You've missed his whole secret! Not just the content but the form of Plato’s writings were also secretly Pythagorean: “The twelve-part structure of the dialogues detected above together with the prominence of the number twelve in Greek music theory suggests that the stichometric structure of the dialogue is a musical scale. Plato used this musical scale as an outline, pegging key concepts and turns in the argument to steps in the scale.” John B. Kennedy, “Plato’s Forms, Pythagorean Mathematics, and Stichometry,” Apeiron: A Journal for Ancient Philosophy and Science, 2010, p. 17. So yeah I know there's a lot of New Age promotion of Plato but it's all b.s. You're just mind-controlled by that stuff. O.K. I'm quoting academics who published academic books on Platonic research. That's Peter Kingsley - his Ph.D. was published by Oxford - but guess what - the academics rejected Kingsley because he is exposing the truth about Plato. So go ahead suck up to the Plato promoters and join the mainstream maelstrom of lies. Yeah that's right - it takes big size and bold to get people to stop lying about Plato. Ernest McClain, The Myth of Invariance: The origins of the Gods, Mathematics and Music, from the Rg Veda to Plato (Nicholas-Hays, 1976), p. 11. See also Scott Makeig, “Means, Meaning, and Music: Pythagoras, Archytas, and Plato,” Ex Tempore: A Journal of Compositional and Theoretical Research in Music, 1981. Professor Michael Hudson concurs: “The worst problem in tuning occurs in the interval of three whole tones, e.g., between C and F#/Gb in the “natural” untempered methods of tuning. If the ratio of the octave is 2:1, then the ratio of C to F# represents the square root of two — an irrational number. (Burkert [1972:441] notes that the harmonic mean discovered in the context of Pythagorean music theory has a major use precisely in approximating the square root.)” Michael Hudson’s essay, “Music as an Analogy for Economic Order in Classical Antiquity” in Jürgen Backhaus (ed.), Karl Bücher. Theory, History, Anthropology, Non-Market Economies (Marburg:Metropolis Verlag, 2000): pp. 113-35 citing Burkert, Walter (1972), Lore and Science in Ancient Pythagoreanism (Harvard University Press, 1972). So for Plato each citizen was according the value of 9/8 and had to be "tempered" - into irrational magnitude music tuning - was a contained materialist Emptiness (Apeiron) as Freemasonic geometry. Plato is the antithesis of Taoism. Ernest McClain, The Pythagorean Plato: Prelude to the Song Itself (Nicolas-Hays, Inc., 1978), p. 14. And again how was the limitation defined? Quote "Magnitudes have all the characteristics Plato attributes to Apeiron." p. 394 Socratic, Platonic and Aristotelian Studies: Essays in Honor of Gerasimos Santas 2011 And so then you have Proclus directly stating if there were no Apeiron there would be no irrational magnitudes. From this googlebook review link citing Vassliis Karasmanis, "Continunity and Irrationality in Ancient Greek Philosophy and Mathematics." that's the antithesis to Taoism. Sorry to burst your mind-controlled bubble.