mrpasserby

The wise seek shelter. Shelter in a shaman cloak Walk on the planes

I am 100% sure that you are wright about not being able to be sure about being awakened.

I moved the spirit quest to England up to the top just now (no good short answer out of time now I will try to write a post on spirit questing later): Using a functional spirit body, to interact with other beings in the unseen world, to produce some sort of a positive gain or outcome, like a healing.

I have come to admire your posts and the cultivation that they provide. 'One simply cannot know for sure that one has finally waken up. Maybe the Awoken are more asleep than the non-Awoken, who knows?' This is so true. The only way that I think that gives me hope that I mite be awake is that: When I go on spirit quests and I get injured in some way (happens more then you would think), a little later the injury shows up in my body, in the same area and with the same results. The pain of these injuries is the best clue that I have. There are many other signs of my activities having a real effect but the natural nature of them make there validity questionable.

I have never been able to figure that one out.

I really like this concept. It is in within the space that I am able to create. Thanks

I really felt the clarity in what you posted, 'Mind creates Reality', is a powerful concept to under stand. Thanks

I have really enjoined many of the things that you have posted in this thread. But when I looked into Buddha at the Gas Pump, I was given an expectation that you are teaching ascension. I do not like being a nay sayer, and I try to support everyone's efforts at walking their own path/way. My question is if you are teaching ascension then where is the information about the practices leading up to creating a fully functional spirit body to ascend into?

Thanks, this is good thought. I would like to add being prepared to receive is a required action for attainment. Shaking ones fist at the gods might get their attention but without making the effort to open a void to receive a gift or a curse, in my experience: it is unlikely that great attainment is possible. I may be wrong (probably) but isn't Neidan some times called the Great Way-which jells in my mind as moving in the direction of attaining a functional spirit body. Neidan, or internal alchemy (simplified Chinese: 內丹术; traditional Chinese: 內丹術; pinyin: nèidān shù), is an array of esoteric doctrines and physical, mental, and spiritual practices that Taoist initiates use to prolong life and create an immortal spiritual body that would survive after death (Skar and Pregadio 2000, 464 ...

Thanks, I always enjoy studding everyone posts. From the least to the greatest of them I find cultivation and fun. I have been working on the Taoist Neidan great Way for quite some time now and while I have not got it all down, I get the part about creating a functional spirit body, which is the same in most areas as my way practices. I under stand this Neidan great Way teaching with the exception that once you have a functional spirit body, then you get started on the really difficult challenges initiations, and deeper mysteries that only seem to me to be available for the discovering within the unseen part of the world (or some masters may hold these mysteries back for the higher level students). The reincarnation parts of Buddhism, that I have been studying all seems to fit nicely within my experiences of the framework of the unseen world. My take on the functional part of the reincarnation scenario is more like Egypt information where a person has many levels of bodies/iterations and that sometimes one ends and is supported by the reminder until it can be re-achieved.

In my experience: That is the reason for initiations, the fear challenges a person and when they are ready; they have to break through it, then receive the rewards of that initiation, and temporarily blissing out before going on to over come the next challenge. Not a direct quote: I think that it was the ancient sage Rumi that gave this big Hint and said something like: I lead you to the gate of heaven, then when a demon pops up you all run away.

Oh for the still centre It is the head of Mimir Do not hike it center

Recent discoveries about my craft due to DBs cultivation. All my life I have been training/practicing doings workings within the world of spirits. But I have just recently learned/experienced a new phenomenon to me. What is called the practice of dream viewing/remote viewing, and a master can actually project a dream presents. I have heard of it, and even read a post about masters doing it, but I always thought that it didn't seem like much value was in it for me. And so it would seem that the lesson that I have learned: Recently I have perceived visitors to my domain bubble who have been viewing me from time to time. But not in the usual spirit projection way. These masters are able to remain *unseen by me and only perceived, this is interesting and has taught me that masters can remote view areas within the earthly plane similar to the way that I view areas on the spirit plane. What makes this important is that I can now study this practice without thinking that it is as I was taught of no value to me. *as a child I was damaged in a certain area and I was not able to easily put effort into manifesting and long range viewing of things on the physical plane of existence, and so my spirit guides focused my training, practice, toward being totally focused on the spirit plane/unseen would. In many cultures, the shaman also fulfills the role of the psychopomp. This may include not only accompanying the soul of the dead, but also to help at birth, to introduce the newborn child's soul to the world.[5](p36) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopomp

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Hello, @Lost in Translation: I noticed that we joined thedaobums about the same time, I have read many of your posts, and deeply admired your wisdom and writing skills. Through cultivation a good portion of which came through thedobums forum, I recently noticed a feeling that I call unconditional love. In my comments about your post I was mainly trying to clarify the point from my current personal perspective about your comment: 'you can walk all over me'. I am a work in progress when it comes to *posting. I post best with long possibly boring examples in the RABBIT hole.

I thought that we did a thread on unconditional love? In my experience: Having unconditional love means, I do not want anything from some one, I do not need them to do anything for me, and even if I have to smack them, I will still love them and want the best for them. I don't know how you get unconditional love but when its there it is just there. No god complex required.

Thanks @OldDog, this is so significant: personal experiential knowledge of a practice like Daoist Neidan.

Thank you @Mudfoot, that is close to exactly the reason that I retired from my last practice after 4 decades. Until I read your post I wasn't able to put it into words.

@Bruce Qi 'I mean what could these beings be ? actual shadow people ?, jinn ? skilled magicians and astral travellers cloaked'? Travelers wearing Old Shaman traveling cloaks, actual shades of people who have passed on leaving their carbon image. Sorry I got overly excited about the posability of discovering a source of raw tupla material, and I overshared at first, I decided to post story instead

What you said!

Thanks, I have been trying to relate the terminology and principles of Neidan to my western way.

Thanks, for the unconditional love.

Thanks, I have never read it put so simple and clear.

I Your posts are always striking and to the point. In my experience I can only point at priest craft as a general world problem and not specifically any group. The few individual Buddhists that I have interacted with have earned my deep respect.

I was many years in face to face forums among pears of the highest caliber, even someone raising from the ranks was handled with out direct words. A tradition of extreme indirect communication was always the norm. Even though I myself struggle with posting direct information, I tend to find refreshing, a reasonable amount of 'direct talk were possible', 'pot stirring, shaking things up bit, etc...', as long as there are no threats of violence.