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I am happy to read that many who are posting here are taking the high road. A youtube show with so much perspective shifting info. (Egyptian, Buddhist, Christian) so I added it here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XUqk7H9c5E

Paraphrase from a couple of stories that i once heard: there was a man, who was scorned by all in his town for being evil. it was said of him by some that it was because he was always surrounded by 6 demons. a passer by who was a experienced shaman happened to Perceive the mans sufferings. As he walked into the town to get a closer look, he was met by the controlling devil of the town, who insisted that he leave his town immediately. the shaman not having any agenda to fight the devil agreed, just asking to be granted one request. the shaman asked why was it that there was so many demons harassing one man, when no one else in the town was being bothered. the devil just laughed and said: The old man had always acted like someone who would have a chance to become a shaman but he hadn't ever decided to make the effort, so the demons where there always trying to cause the man to shift his perspective toward the negative things in life and thus prevent him from taking the shaman form of the path of life.

I already gave my *answer to the question of him becoming 'something more' in 'The mystic view:" https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/44876-visualizations-stories-the-mage/ *(trying to keep with the christian theme of the thread)

My take on the bible readings about this subject, he was there setting the example of how to act, and so the expectation is that those who enter his kingdom or come to his father will get there only Through following his example. The mystic view:

Thanks for asking, I am still working on it.

It means morphing from the physical realm into the next higher realm.

A man is given a 2 legged stool by his friend for a present at the start of his secret waking up ceremony. The man felt insulted by this gesture and angrily asked his friend, Why. The friend unperturbed just shrugged his shoulders and said, I new that you did not have a 2 legged stool anywhere in your house. I would be embarrassed to sit on a two legged stool during my waking up ceremony said the man throwing the stool down and breaking off another leg.

In my experience: it is a language problem that degenerates everything that is expressed by the mages/sages, who attempt to write words taken from the language of becoming. This language of becoming in order to present intelligible meanings is forced to focus down word 'through the meanings/symbols of the available words, and is produced for physical viewing through the language of doing, which was created for the servants of doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbiGiNmkDk 4thEarthChk.rtf

DRAFT: #Nintendao Good morning @lightbody09, pleased to meet you. I can't be sure if we're all even talking about the same thing, but as regards your original inquiry, I think I heard someone say that everything you'd need to know about the process is in here: https://terebess.hu/zen/mesterek/Taoist-Yoga-Alchemy-and-Immortality.pdf I've not read it, but the basic premise as I understood was that if you somehow manage to never orgasm again, then that pure life ingredient builds up until you eventually shoot out the top of your head as a beam of light. Pretty intense, and easier said than done. It's not necessarily the safest route, either. You have to know how to actively circulate things, not unlike stirring a cooking pot or else you get burned on the bottom and boiled off the top. And if you go at it without the proper foundation, chances are you just blow a gasket somewhere along the way before getting all the way to the top, and end up worse than if you'd not even tried. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49420-hi-everyone-im-looking-for-real-practices-for-light-bodyrainbow-body/?page=3&tab=comments#comment-892552 #Nintendao thanks , this post is composed of much exciting information. In my experience: These facts define a happy state that when achieved is a solid foundation from which one who desires to achieve a light-body existence (while still existing at our current physical level), could launch his efforts to cross the abyss and initiate a connection to his light-body to begin the long process of investing the informational energy, generated from his true self, into activating/growing the Features of himself within his new form that is able to Exist/Thrive within the unseen world. In my opinion: our light bodies very existence (within the space available to use within earth/unseen world) is to provide are intelligence with a residence that is separate from the lower physical elements which are kept #**^separate from the higher elements of creation. #***^ A unseen world Joke. It is seen as uncomfortable to some that in-order to create the energy of individuality within a individual form, that it is necessary to the task of multiplying that must be done within the lost-est sate and then refined to a less dense state for a more Permanent Existence. In my experience: A optional ##**^task of the individual in this time of our physical assistance, is to create or follow a path across the abyss into the less dense portion of the world and then once this connection has become secured, to then invest their Own energetic properties (personality, memories) if you will, to promote their growth within the new light body representation of themselves. #**^ Like the law that keeps air above water and water above earth/(star dust) when in the confines of our earth. #***^(a joke from within the unseen world that applies as a metaphor in this case would be: that sh.. rolls down hill, then the smoke off of it rises upwards). ##**^If you want to wake up retaining the knowledge of who you realy are, after a physical death. Thanks to studding the Hindu Information that I need to get into the 4th earth chakra, my bubble domain does not seem so out of place. With his outward breath Vishnu scattered clouds of tiny bubbles into the waters, and every time he breathed in they were sucked back inside him. Each of these bubbles, which seemed so small in comparison with his gigantic sleeping form, grew into an entire universe like ours, whose lifespan was equal to a single breath of Vishnu. All these universes were clustered around the form of Vishnu like foam in the ocean. When all the elements of matter were present, Vishnu expanded himself and entered each universe, bringing it to life by filling it with souls, tiny particles of his own spiritual nature. These souls were filled with desires for enjoying the world. To fulfill their desires they needed material bodies. So began the second phase of creation. From Vishnu inside each universe Brahma was born. Brahma created the planets and stars and all the thousands of demigods, each of whom was given charge of a particular part of the cosmic order. https://displacedgodsc1.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/vishnu-the-sleeper/ Metastable foams can have a lifetime of several hours to several days; their duration is sometimes attributed to small particles of silica, calcium, or iron which contribute to foam stability and longevity.[1] Additionally, seawater that contains released dissolved organic material from phytoplankton and macrophytic algae that is then agitated in its environment is most likely to produce stable, longer-lasting foam when compared with seawater lacking one of those components. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_foam #s1va: There is a distinction -- in my view -- between the non dual Brahman that Vedanta talks about and the nondual that Abhinavagupta describes in Monism of the Kashmir Shaivism. The first one states that Brahman alone is real and everything else is unreal. This seems to be about subject and object. It concludes that Brahman is the only real thing and all else is mithya, false or unreal. Whereas the Abhinavagupta's nondual seems to be stating consciousness and energy are not two separate phenomenon, but they are one. #s1va, thanks for this, it is clear to me that Brahman is the only permanent unchanging source of the universe, while all other energies are Not permanent and constantly changing. this is with the caveat that this changing can in some cases last billions of years like our earth or even the pyramids that have lasted many thousands of years. Three Visualizations/stories of the same old gate guardian: a man with little practice is lead to the entrance to a spirit world domain by his guru, suddenly a dark and sinister looking giant demon pops up and lets out a terrible howling scream of indistinguishable words * at him fearing for his life the man runs away. over time he convinces himself that any further practice is evil. a evil gate guardian? a old man after many decades of practice discovers the entrance to a spirit world domain, upon attempting to enter the gate he is immediately confronted by a elderly non descript man who loudly states *, the old man stays and persists pressing the gate guardian for answers and discovers over time all of the things that he needs to do and know to gain entrance to this good domain. a good gate guardian? a man after a indeterminate amount of practice discovers the entrance to the same spirit world domain, suddenly seeing at the gate a dark and sinister looking being pop up, then it blasts him with indistinguishable words *, the man is startled but he stands his ground, he feels unsure about the incident but he continues to practice. over time he discovers that he has mysteriously begun to more easily master new skills but he thinks that it is questionable, if he will try to meet the same gate guardian again. a questionable gate guardian? *It is a good guess to say 'at first the gate guardian says to all: 'you are not ready to enter yet'. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49338-the-three-legs-of-awakening-advaita-vedanta/?tab=comments#comment-894192 #Neti Neti The entirety of what can be objectively known, from un-manifest to manifest or from grossest to subtlest, arises as an appearance in the realized. The appearance is a reflection of That which projects no image, and yet spontaneously pervades and sustains all while remaining untouched. All is not apart from It, but It is not the all. All this is merely catalyst for understanding, in comparison to a seeker imagining a strange and dangerous world out there, somewhere. Just pointers, teaching tools within the one resplendent consciousness. An inversed conception to rattle the student out of his comfort zone, that he may throw himself at the feet of the Guru, his consciousness. DRAFT: From My experience: The info. in this thread is sooo good/telling, and of much worth, if the person who perceives it is able to break free from the egg shell that they are maturing in. Then the *reflections from the emanations of their mind will cease and they can begin to gain functionality to act be acted upon, and begin to prosper within the **real world of the spirit. *until a person breaks free of the birthing envelope, "a persons external energy field sometimes called ora", acts as a mirror allowing the person to view their own growth in the subtle body and the higher mind. **called the unseen world by those who are still in their ora shell and can not perceive it. (In my experience: when the objective of the writing is to present to the reader a actual reference point within the mind two legs of a three legged stool must be present (the third leg is the persons own xxxx, or not) hence the duel comment about the same items commented on above.) Comments not related to the part of the post below: The jñāni is apparently in the all, yet he abides beyond. He has no mind to call his own, universal mind is his consciousness. Consciousness, like a small grain of light in the expanse of his infinite being is how he knows that he is, and thus a true jñāni worships it. A jñāni is said to be a knower of consciousness in its totality. He knows who he is without words, for he has known all that he is not by and through his consciousness. He is wholly unattached and uninvolved, without an identity as commonly conceived, and therefore without a mind that clings or grasps... and yet, he knows and abides in the hearts of all. The knower's "attainment" of Self-knowledge, is to say he abides as that primal knowledge itself. This untouched awareness, pure jñāna, is like an ever-burning fire. An all-consuming flame in which all karmas are burnt up as instantaneously as they arise... Extra info. while also viewing their minds created reflections of the vibrations received from the surrounding area and from others who are near by. while also viewing their minds created reflections of the vibrations received from the surrounding area and from others who are near by. it or preform actions within it.

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Epic words were posted within this thread. Much truth forged from the bane of words that usually cause myself and others confusion. Accolades to the one who posts the truth sifted out of chaos. Sorry I had to post the above I was carried away by the cultivation caused by being exposed to so much clarity. My comments on the actual thread' I study Buddhism at a personal development level. I think that the vidoes gave a smattering of information regarding internal "heart-mind," developmental which seamed to take a different angle then the usual trend.

This is splendid news because I haven't heard much about someone understanding a triangulated pattern, in the healing process.

I would like to mention that in my opinion the Night King was in a epic battle of wills with Bran. Bran had spent hour(s) in preparation for the duel of wills and was totally rested, so the Night King already having put out tremendous amounts of energy for hours during the battle, had to pull in all of his influence/magic to bring it to bear on Brian. This would explain why all of the Night King's assets where frozen in place (no pun intended), and why the Night King was not as quick in his response to Aryas attack as he had been when he was attacked by some of the others.

My previous comments were based on a time when I was studding with hard core spirit guides, a volunteer would be from those, with at least 30-40 years of experience. From my experience: healing physical people is not my area of expertise I specialize in working with spirits, my main focus is the spirit based earth chakras, however I haven't posted much about that field of work yet. 'Same with the fellow student telling you he had the faith to heal you. And something just occurred to me. This also goes to what we were just talking about. Your fellow student said 'I have the faith to heal you..." In this case, the power was in his court and he knew it.' Yes also in this case the class mate who healed me also was in a class with lots of knowing support and had years of training in spirit guiding, Plus the Egregore FolkSoul Gistalt/colective mind, that is usually present in that type of a setting is a good energy source. In my experience: When healing you are dealing with the powers of creation and to avoid damage, you need a source of power besides yourself and the person being healed. In my experience: When healing a spirit or physical body, it is a creation (a change in destiny, that is attempting to avoid having the person meet their fate), and needs to be treated as such. In my experience: powering up is all about moving energy back and forth between 3 points, one sending, one receiving, and a enriched neutral space to pass it threw. Three trained people can do it, I don't think that this is any thing new to qi gong healers. In my experience: when healing (spirits, unseen world) alone I require, 2 tuples, they have to be functional and possessing of their own energy, one projecting and one passive. In my opinion: The untrained spirit/person being healed can be convinced through faith providing words, gestures, and symbols to assist in their own healing but so far I for one have not had much luck with this method, however it sounds like you have and that is great. In my experience: I do not want to weird you out but the third person in your healings, (with the sick person being prompted into using their faith and being the second). In my experience: it could be a close relative who has physically passed, but is still being close enough to help.

Thanks, this realy explains a lot about problems among those who make the effort to taste the joys of the unseen world with no results. I have spent much effort trying to explain/demonstrate how to tap into a spirit/unseen world experience all the while focusing toward working on their *internal/external power levels, when I could have just placed more of a focus on visualization powers.

Thank you for sharing that, it is great that you have those kinds of skills, when it comes to healing refinement I'm just a bull in a china shop. However I have seen healers use fineness and raw power to repair myself and others within the physical world. A couple of examples that come to mind but don't realy support my earlier post are: The healers gathered around the person who was several times diagnosed with throat cancer. the healers always ask if the person has the faith to be healed, they *transferred the tumor to a volunteer, the cancer died in the transfer and the next day the doctor could find no trace of it on the patient, the volunteer simply had the be-nine tumor removed, and all was well. Another time I had been seriously injured on a spirit quest and felt like I was ready to pass away, I walked into class thinking loudly about how I was going to present my departing words when a fellow student said, 'I have the faith to heal you, I said 'I have the faith to be healed. My injury snap crackled and popped and the damage was healed enough for me to keep going until nature took care of the rest. *it is a standard practice to take the damage into yourself, but the fineness is to transfer it to another location. My guess is that the higher level frequency of the processes of the transfer procedure seams to be where the magic happens and the cancer is nullified.

ralis, I realy appreciate your informative comments. I have only second hand information about those who use ayahuasca, the thing is that the only truly expressed experience of someone having a shaman attempting/pretending to do a healing that I have herd about is one where the shaman was growing his (#wing man, a term I use to indicate a second self a spirit tuple built out of the collecting of spirit matter into the *Sheut). I lost the article in the ocean of information that is available. However my take on it was that the shaman haply took the guests money, and any excess **spirit matter that he had available within his merkabah/ora. The loss of excess spirit matter can make a person feel realy great for some time. But no real healing ever occurred. #certian religious groups indicate a shaman type teacher who came into their midst with 6 or 8 wing-men and began teaching about yoga and the like, I know that this was basically true because one of the group was reported to be caring his sword within one of the wing-men. In my experiences I have seen a slimier sword career. Posting with someone who has similar experiences is always a pleasure. I have seen and experienced some real healers in action, but the real healing power always seams to come from the person being healed as in several cases with me in the past. If you are on a lonely part of your path right now, know that it is the case for many of us who are or are becoming shaman. I think that I am coming out of that part of the experience at least for now. But in the past I felt alone even in a crowded room. Thanks for posting. *The ancient egyptians believed the five parts of the soul were the Ba, the Ren, the Ib, the Ka, and the Sheut. The lais the last part of the soul is the Sheut, or the shadow. It could be used to perform a shadow execration, even more powerful than a standard execration. It was the silhouette of the soul, a backup copy. **In my experience: spirit matter can distill on the surface from extreme emotional thoughts anger, repression, etc..., their is also the flack of bits of dark spirt matter that is reported to be attracted to the spirit energy. Credits: https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/490/what-were-the-five-parts-of-the-egyptian-soul

Of course I posted the wrong thing, words are the bane of those who don't have a good mind filter when it comes to attempts at polite conversation/posting. Most if not all think that I an out of my mind, this is true most of the time. (you mentioned being a detective), I confess to having been a computer enthusiast back when hard drives where blank and you had to program them from scratch (a most exciting time for me), now that I have a newly forming 'Egregore FolkSoul Gistalt/tuple (apparently formed by the DBs brain trust, and subsequent focused activity)' to work with at DBs, your questions have been a tremendous help in my experimenting and tapping into it to clarify my answers regarding my other worldly experiences, which also aid in giving it growth experiences. Thanks

In my experience: Shaman is a general name for a whole bunch of jobs that are being done by spirit minded people, those who are frequently working alone or in small groups, and often abused by those that they are making a effort to *help. Rumi paraphrased (because I couldn't find the exact quote OK, so where is that guy with the brains that Nungali, and me are waiting for?) 'I lead you to the gates of heaven, but when a demon jumps up and says Boo, you all run away' I laugh to thing what certain members who are currently posting on this thread would do! (then there world be a howling by the gates of heaven, because good gate guardians (sometimes called demons) are hard to put back together). *no, not a sob story, there are no free lunches it is always a trade off of help, the only historical hint of this (that I have found) 'is when '2 coins are placed over a persons eyes so that they can pay the boat man (shaman) to take them across the river sticks.' In my experience: exchanging tribute is a normal course of action when working within the unseen world.

Nungali: "If I stick it in one of these boxes, does that mean only Daobums can read it and it is hidden from internet searches ? "That would be great news, I don't get to play post very much, because I don't want to offend the general public. how do we test it?

As short as I can make it: After many years of preparation I had managed a shaman spirit journey and passed into the earths 1st chakra. Once their I went exploring around. I got in trouble, I got caught. After a time a person came up holding a staff, flat looking snake head on one side and a U shaped fork on the other and 'mad as hell', some how got the U shaped end around my neck, then I just went slack, they wanted to keep me there in the first chakra 'for a indeterminate amount of time', But like I have experienced before justice overruled and I was given a chance for initiation, that is the part that I can tell to much about. I passed the test after the initiation, and was happy to get the blank out of there. 'What is the symbolism of getting a snake to exhale onto an Egyptian type object until it vibrates a sound.....or is it a proof of lack of fear of death, or tuning in to the animal's frequency?' I can only guess at the answers to these great questions because I was sacred and I just wanted to go home, so I didn't stick around after the initiation for a in-depth discussion of the process.

I was just being polite and conversational when I said "This sounds like a good practice technique for working with spirits also.' I realy admire your intensity, focus and great questions. The information to the question: 'Are you speaking of spirits in a dual sense?, is long, and the same for ' Or do you use spirits in a lineage sort of way?' If you want I will post on these in the Shaman post at the top when I have time. I am just now getting to your post before this one.

I'll bet that those with Dragons and their enthusiasts are enjoying the movie star Dragon images.