Nintendao

A thread for poems Original or quoted Compose or discuss Five, seven, then five. A form we know very well. Cast off this constraint. For those times when, Expression is more important, Feel free to bend rules.

Scrutinizing from the top-left (ignoring getting yeeted by slang) i got "tv hi ki" (classical for "turn on the television, say hi to qi.") which does in fact remind me of a Christmas long past, when sat for countless hours in front of that glowing phosphor portal, painstakingly reassembling the Triforce of Wisdom. After that I got the bigger picture and received some hooker dinosaur love. That said, it goes without saying there must always be some wiggle room in what constitutes thread derailment or downright goofing. Having a clear declaration of where it should be avoided is a good idea. And I agree it would be nice to be able to represent specific lineages in a respectable and precise manner.

Once upon a time, Zena the Poet was asked to describe what it feels like to ride a bike. After a moment of reflection, she recited: Balancing on my butt-bone I press my toes onto the pedals As the wind rushes through my hair A thousand years later, Albert the Learned was seen sitting on a block of wood while smushing flower petals under his feet, with a fan pointed at his head. When asked what he was doing, he replied "I am riding a bye cycle! You probably wouldn't understand it."

yin/yang is also associated to hidden/exposed, they reminding you to put that thing away nah but actually: p.38 ISBN 978-1-4327-9689-1

and heaven and nature sing! have we arrived at the gate?

I think sombody mentioned huáng? This might be useful. Who knows? Anatomical Composition of the Mesentery The mesentery is a double-layered fold of peritoneum that suspends the small and large intestines from the posterior abdominal wall while providing a conduit for blood vessels, lymphatics, and nerves. Embedded within it are autonomic nerve fibers, deriving from both sympathetic and parasympathetic systems, which innervate the intestines and mesenteric vasculature. Enteric Nervous System (ENS) Integration The ENS, intrinsic to the gastrointestinal tract, consists of the myenteric (Auerbach’s) plexus between longitudinal and circular smooth muscle layers and the submucosal (Meissner’s) plexus within the submucosa. These plexuses can function autonomously to control motility, secretion, and blood flow, and their fibers extend into the mesenteric connective tissue, providing pathways for nerve signals along the tract. Autonomic Control and Action Potentials Sympathetic and parasympathetic fibers pass through the mesentery and synapse with the ENS, smooth muscle, blood vessels, and secretory cells. The smooth muscle of the gut exhibits slow-wave potentials (basic electrical rhythms) generated by Interstitial Cells of Cajal. When these slow waves reach threshold, action potentials are triggered, causing rhythmic contractions. These action potentials propagate via gap junctions and are modulated by enteric and autonomic nerves, ensuring coordinated intestinal motility and peristalsis. Physiological Implication Through the mesentery, the ENS and autonomic nerves transmit excitatory (e.g., acetylcholine) and inhibitory (e.g., norepinephrine, nitric oxide) signals to smooth muscle to regulate contraction patterns, local blood flow, and secretory activity. This allows the mesentery not just to support the intestines mechanically, but also to mediate neurogenic control of digestion and vascular tone.

Holy crap I'll read up on that! I just bumped an old thread so as not to clutter this one if anything turns out

I started thinking about this during the thread Evidence for the super natural. At first it felt a bit immature and science-fiction-y to just rattle off something like "Oh it's easy, ghosts and angels and everything is real, it is just made out of ✨dark matter✨" I keep circling back to it though, and feel like there could be something to it. I'm going to open up with some quotes about what physics is currently grappling with on the subject: My point here is that science is perfectly willing to admit that there is an overwhelming amount of something going on that we have as yet no means to directly measure, even despite a hefty investment of time and resources. The only verifiable evidence is galactic-scale gravitational effects, so is its existence just a guess in order to mathematically explain how we think gravity should behave? I'll take it on faith though that they know what they are talking about. The next point then is this: So yes, galaxies exist, but there is clearly a lot of other nuance going on, as evidenced by life itself. And yes, dark matter interacts with galaxies, but is it really too much to assume that there could be entire intricate worlds made out of it, completely outside of what can be scientifically proven as "real"?

https://nasaspacenews.com/2025/11/dark-matter-for-the-1st-time/ This just in! for context from recent interations with that old invisibility

Just because something is invisible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's been mathematically "proven" that so-called dark matter exists (mass-carrying particles who are incapable of interacting with any known form of light wave or particle) and comprises an even larger percent of the observable universe than visible matter. This is not to say that qi necessarily is a form of dark matter, btw. What's more is that other than its resultant distortions in gravitational fields, there has been zero confirmed experimental evidence of what dark matter itself is made of, despite large and expensive detection apparatus. For better or worse there's a real possibility that such a thing does not actually exist at all, and we have simply been misunderstanding gravity the whole time. Wouldn't that be a major upset!

Alchemists be like:

Hey now that's pretty good! It's like i always say: if you need to get potty-trained, would you rather find someone who can pick you up and put you on the throne, or hand you a book about how digestion works? Likewise if you like to drive cars, put your foot on the pedal and turn the wheel. Don't talk about pistons and crankshafts and fossil fuel distillation. Then someone who only ever owned an electric car comes along and says "why are y'all talking about fossils? That has absolutely nothing do with cars. Then goes on to talk about lithium ions and three phase induction motors.

Yup the truly oldschool can still receive the goods directly from the gods. And yes caring for ones ancestors can be a big part of that. Why do you think Lao Tsu's whole deal was about growing the dé? It wasn't until around a thousand years ago when TCM became advanced to where scholars cross-referenced the Yijing with the Zangfu (not entirely unlike something the AI might pull..) and discovered a way to survive sneaking into the Forbidden Kingdom. Dragons are even older than all that. When you're a dragon, all you really need is breathe

True story but in neidan "deviation" refers to qi sickness not just style variations. Basically people do the practice wrong or too aggressively and get injured or go insane.

Anyway 😇 since this is meant to be a thread about practice, not theory, guess what is also a fantastic combination of body and mind (or even energy and spirit.) One that too often gets disregarded these days. Chanting the scriptures Rhythmic singing naturally creates its own kind of breathing exercise, and sound vibrations have known uses for cleansing and alignment. As well memorizing and contemplating the subject matter, has benefits for the mind in both an obvious and mysterious capacity. https://archive.org/details/wudang-mountain-daoist-temple-chanting-morning-evening-liturgy

Nah man i genuinely wondered what it said! Google and Bing were giving me some subtle yet significant differences, and my own scrutinization was turning up even deeper.

Finally someone has mentioned xing. Or is that ming. I always mix them up. A slightly less obscure translation might be disposition 性, and direction 命.

could you spare an example?

@ChiDragon, what would you say is the meaning of this line from the 悟真篇 Wuzhenpian? 人人盡有長生藥，自是愚迷枉擺拋。

Life, Death, is like that why collect if not to give when ripe, the fruit falls

careful.. 養生 Yǎngshēng is for fitness and nutrition. The yangshenggong mentioned is various life-prolonging exercise. 陽神 Yángshén is part of the mobilized light body, e.g. what someone might see floating above your head after you've practiced for ten thousand hours.

As long as the scan is taking into account which direction attention is moving. Either pooling (☵ 坎) or dispersing (☲ 離). What the training does is to be able to discern the difference, as well as develop a propensity toward pooling. The timer and journal are also important.

Set a timer for two minutes. Close your eyes and observe your internal environment with as many of your senses as you can. Just look and be attentive. Train your energy to pool inwards instead of disperse outwards. The outside can wait. The timer will let you know when to wrap up. Practice at least once every day. Increase the amount of time when you want to. Keep track of your progress on any kind of calendar or journal that suits you. That's it. That's the practice. But Nintendao, all you've described is a most basic form of meditation. Don't you have to kan li your yuan qi to xing ming the xuan guan? Yes. Yes you do.

I'm not entirely sure what i meant 😅 I was typing while half asleep and then went and dreamed about sharpening a pencil. One of those old fashioned crank sharpeners from school, with the toothy cylinders on either side of the blade that grind up the shavings.