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The point is, in response to the OP, when somebody has problems with sitting: Am I naturally/spontaneously expressing my nature? Do I enjoy my Zazen on the zafu? Or am I sitting as a means to an end. If you sit to become enlightened, you can sit till the end of time. All that might happen you be a self righteous, frustrated, angry old man/woman after sitting 40 years😀 There is a famous Zen saying: If by sitting meditation you could become enlightened all the frogs near the pond would be Buddha's😀

Yes, that your opinion/view. Just don't cling to it, let go, it's a non returner/ non abiding awareness. Peace PS: I wasn't there, nor was you. Hui Neng worked in the kitchen polishing rice, the story goes. Rice, not Ming😀😀😀

Sitting meditation (Zazen) Non attachment (not clinging) is called "sitting" (That includes views, opinions) To rest in (remember) your true nature is called meditation. The two are interdependent, therefore it's just sitting. Just sitting means just being. Naturally and spontaneously. The supreme no- vehicle/no-doctrine of southern Chan. Platform sutra, Hui Neng, 6th patriarch of Zen. Being natural and spontaneous the Unborn will appear. Zen master Bankei Thanx

Maybe a popadox? My favourite paradox of all times: I don't exist.

Gotta love snake oil Maybe smoke a scorpion? You get better soon

There is no paradox except in theory. In reality, all those examples simply don't happen. That is to say, when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object nothing happens. To say unstoppable force is just a different way of saying no immovable object. It's just silly. Much more subtle is the famous example: I am a liar 😀😀

In case of occasional boredom: Lie down on your back, stare at the ceiling and say: Come on then boredom, meaningless, hopeless, depressive, negative, loneliness, come on, here I am, show me what you can do.

Their days work is done Feet stretched out by the fire The satisfied mind

With chaos supreme What could possibly go wrong The ox home and dry

And so it is. Without the shadow of a doubt. Wu Wei Nothing to do with fatalism. Even the Greek stoics knew the virtue: What cannot be changed has to be endured. By the way, the stoic meditation was also to see things from a bird view. That way your own body/mind becomes the object of awareness and not mistakenly the subject. This is also a way to enter Big Mind Peace

Dive deep my brother There, from the depth of your truth A fountain of bliss

What if I was inclined towards plasma theory??There is some trouble with the red shift of quasars that need still to be explained in the mainstream model. It's a funny mathematics when you have the result beforehand and then figure out equations to fit in😀😀

Correction "The Great Way has no gate, A thousand roads enter it. When one passes through this gateless gate, He freely walks between heaven and earth." He is talking about Xin and Min here, not secret doors. No matter how hard you will try to explain it with you petty intellect you will never explain it right before experiencing secret door by yourself. Edited 6 hours ago by SeekerOfHealing Don't worry, I won't explain anything. I know what anger does to your liver😀😀😀

Is this Chuang Tsu? What I mean is, it sounds beautiful, deep, makes perfect sense, but if I think about, analyse it, it falls apart

Love listening to this But if I think about it All the birds are dead

The secret door is wide open The great path has no gates,Thousands of roads enter it.When one passes through this gateless gateHe walks freely between heaven and earth.

They even pretend to me mere mortals

Thank you. I found this in one of your own posts from a few years ago (copy/paste): One way to increase them is to do the Dzogchen meditation of resting the mind in its own nature. This is because bodhichitta and emptiness have the same nature, the true nature of the mind. Practicing bodhichitta openly and freely will increase your understanding of emptiness because compassion and emptiness are inseparable aspects of the primordial state of being." Venerable Khenpo Rinpoches The Buddhist Path

Reminds me of the Tibetan bardo: At the moment of death if you are calm, aware, without fear, you pass straight into the light (so to speak😀) Trouble is if you die not enlightened, you could end up in a scary nightmare unable to wake up (cause you dead) until you find the next birth

Please don't misunderstand Buddhism to be nihilism. Bodhicitta, tathagata, alaya, the Unborn, Buddha mind, naked awareness, and many more terms refer to the luminous mind we are talking about here.this is the basis for all spirituality, be it Vedanta, Taoism, the mystic branches of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, you name it. It is the universal reality. In it appears the whole universe

Here are the first 3 lines of the OP(original post): There is only one mind The concious presence The field of awareness Thanx

Or is it not this? Return to the mountain lake Quiet and Cristal clear

Billions of neurons Glimmering in stand by mode Who pissed on the rug?

😀I like to think it's Zen, the supreme vehicle of immediacy. That said Buddhism is part and parcel of the vedantic tradition(Upanishads) There is an attempt to say that it is nothing more than a socio/political reform movement, namely getting rid of the corrupt ruling priest class (brahmins, caste system) and making knowledge available to everybody by translating the scriptures from Sanskrit into Pali. Later on when Buddhism became corrupted (materialism, nihilism) Vedanta reasserted itself with Sankara.

@ 9th You ask: What do you mean by "percieved"? And more importantly, what you mean by "mind"? Without knowing how you personally define those incredibly abstract terms, I really wouldn't even begin to be able to say. These incredibly abstract terms😀are defined in the utmost simplistic way in the first few lines of the OP as a postulate. @Emera In reply to: That is arrogance saying you know what it is in this context (Buddhist/vedantic) to know means to be. As an object arises in your field of awareness you "know" it. It has nothing do with processed/edited info stored away in the folders of your memory bank😀 A legitimate question to "mind only" would be: is there an objective reality "out there" independent of the observer/perceiver mind. If the mind is the infinite/eternal/luminous/empty field of conciousness/awareness reality then all the movements happen within this mind. Modern physics talks about energy/waves/particles/electro magnetic forces overlaid with inFORMation Thanx Thank you 谢谢