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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranormal Easy Money? offered similar monetary awards for proof of the paranormal in an observed setting...
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http://archive.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/1826-the-million-dollar-challenge-at-tam-2012.html The million dollar challenge
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201602/mindfulness-meditation-and-the-vagus-nerve-share-many-powers Mindfulness Meditation and the Vagus Nerve Share Many Powers Mindfulness and vagus nerve stimulation can optimize the default mode network.- 31 replies
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100319210631.htm Brain waves and meditation- 31 replies
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https://www.grc.com/health/research/Breathing/Physiology of long pranayamic breathing - Neural respiratory elements may provide a mechanism that explains how slow deep breathing shifts the autonomic nervous system.pdf Physiology of long pranayamic breathing: Neural respiratory elements may provide a mechanism that explains how slow deep breathing shifts the autonomic nervous system. Breathing, and How it Alkalizes Your Blood pH Along with food combining, proper breathing is of great importance to your bone health. By proper breathing I mean deep, cleansing breaths that are not too shallow or too fast. It’s a medical fact that extremely rapid, hyperventilation-type breathing can actually cause excessive alkalization of the blood. But the opposite is also true – too shallow breathing causes acid to build up in your body, and here’s why. When you breathe in a shallow manner, or subconsciously hold your breath and fail to breathe deeply and thoroughly, you not only fail to take in enough oxygen; you also do not exhale completely. That means carbon dioxide (CO2) accumulates in your blood. High CO2 levels decrease pH, leading to acidification of the blood. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5455070/ The Effect of Diaphragmatic Breathing on Attention, Negative Affect and Stress in Healthy Adults- 31 replies
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Link to the PK somewhat covered and relatively simple? I went to Google, found the site, did a search. Nothing... not so simple. Do I have to watch a ton of webinars from people not explaining how things work or theories? I get tired of hearing that enough prana will do the trick, not buying it.- 31 replies
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it is also quite interesting that a developed dan tien can be seen as a dot on xrays, and felt as a hard spot. These crystal formations in the gut could very well be similar to those in the ear that tells us which way gravity is pulling and can detect even the slightest tilt of the head. I remember reading that the Java master described it as squeezing something together that made a crunch in the dan tien, making him dizzy or passing out I think. And after that point it was much easier to move qi and sense it. Calcium Carbonate. Chemical formula: CaCO3. Calcium carbonate is a compound which is found in limestone, pearls and snail shells. Calcium is needed by the body for healthy bones, muscles, nervous system, and heart. It is balanced by the kidneys and sunshine to vitamin D (a secosteroid actually).- 31 replies
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The midbrain consists of connections between the hindbrain and forebrain. According to current science, mammals use this part of the brain only for eye reflexes. Where when you do the research, looking upwards creates immediate alpha waves in the brain. So I doubt very much that this is the only purpose. https://www2.estrellamountain.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/BioBookNERV.html Sensory Receptors Sensory receptors are classified according to the type of energy they can detect and respond to. Mechanoreceptors: hearing and balance, stretching. Photoreceptors: light. Chemoreceptors: smell and taste mainly, as well as internal sensors in the digestive and circulatory systems. Thermoreceptors: changes in temperature. Electroreceptors: detect electrical currents in the surrounding environment. Mechanoreceptors vary greatly in the specific type of stimulus and duration of stimulus/action potentials. The most adaptable vertebrate mechanoreceptor is the hair cell. Hair cells are present in the lateral line of fish. In humans and mammals hair cells are involved with detection of sound and GRAVITY and providing BALANCE. Orientation and Gravity Orientation and GRAVITY are detected at the semicircular canals. Hair cells along three planes respond to shifts of liquid within the cochlea, providing a three-dimensional sense of equilibrium. CALCIUM CARBONATE CRYSTALS can shift in response to gravity, providing sensory information about GRAVITY and acceleration. https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/476-carbonates-in-and-on-the-ear Photoreceptors Detect Vision and Light Sensitivity The human eye can detect light in the 400-700 nanometer (nm) range, a small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, the visible light spectrum. Light with wavelengths shorter than 400 nm is termed ultraviolet (UV) light. Light with wavelengths longer than 700 nm is termed infrared (IR) light. Women see more in the red-orange spectrum than men. The gene that allows us to see red lies on the X chromosome. Because women have two X chromosomes, the extra X gives them more color variation in the red-orange spectrum. Men only have one X chromosome, so where women can see crimson, maroon, cardinal, ruby, and scarlet. I propose that we have sensors that do many things, and our body reacts accordingly. So part of it is developing the sensors, part of it is developing the reactivity to what is being sensed. As the eye adjusts to light, nerves react to thoughts, saliva flows when we think lemons, etc. To do PK, we need to feel the energy that creates the PK, we need to manipulate that to do what it is we want... practice, practice, practice... I do think in order to do that, you need to take your awareness below the normal level of consciousness, and keep the mental awareness and control intact... while you also connect the nervous system and the body experience of the force of gravity and electromagnetic energy. In that portion of the brain that can sense gravity and bend it, and in that portion of the body that feels gravity and senses these energy flows, we bend and touch things that already exist outside of us, and PK can happen.- 31 replies
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This control can also be connected through the same systems like sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. Such that just like breathing and blinking, both systems can operate automatically, or be under our mental control. Thus the need for breathing and flexing to develop the dan tien and the sensory input for recognition and feeling of the energy flow, as well as exercising and using the flow, directing it, etc. We learn to walk by feeling gravity, resistance, etc. Nobody can study it and then just do it. You need to feel and and practice it to get the muscle control and feedback systems to walk, run, jump. I propose this is the same thing in order to to PK or any other sensory practice involving quantum or gravity manipulation. It is repetition, feeling it, crawling, then walking... just over the vagus and limbic systems...- 31 replies
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I feel there were/are plenty of good scientists at this project, probably many of them much smarter than I will ever be, and with much deeper pockets. I do think they don't know how to think outside the box, and probably are not allowed to connect dots across different science disciplines. In addition, they are probably not practicing anything personally, and don't have any form of ESP or abilities like PK. So they can't even begin to "feel" where to start or how to measure it. The first thing you need is somebody who can do PK on demand, repeatedly, to be your lab rat. If they can take any standard person off the street and train them to do the same thing, you would then have the before and after condition, where you could measure the differences between the condition before the ability, and after. At that point, you can then measure what enhances it, what blocks it, what changes it, etc. If you have enough people performing the same PK experiment, you can also then determine things like attitude, male female, climate changes, the difference in exercises or meditation practices, etc. Over time, the testing would be able to determine the best methods for people, and the best conditions, the best diets to support it, what drains it, etc. An interesting note, if you looked at the links above, during the Philip experiment the psychology of it pointed in the direction of the mind creating an external source for the PK. We know that Philip did not exist. The results there would point to the mind deciding that it is possible for things to move by ghost or foreign entity . It needed something outside itself that it can blame. But when you try to practice the same thing and claim it as your own, there are some forms of blockades in the way, mentally or otherwise. Overcoming that portion is probably also a very important part of the training, or learning to fool yourself, or using the imagery to create gods or demons, spirits or something that are doing your bidding. Interesting, but it may be some form of protective system so that we don't cause trouble when we are delirious or sleeping/dreaming? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_experiment- 31 replies
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The CIA took on many folks to test. Ingo Swan was probably the favorite. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000200130005-3.pdf He also wrote plenty of books. The Stargate was also a real name for a project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project http://www.p-i-a.com/Magazine/Ref/CIA-InitiatedRV_Puthoff.html CIA-Initiated Remote Viewing At Stanford Research Institute by H. E. Puthoff, Ph.D. Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin 4030 Braker Lane W., #300 Austin, Texas 78759-5329- 31 replies
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I saw a post the other day that appeared to go unanswered, now I can't find it. The question, if I remember correctly, was correlations with brain areas or structure change? Let me know if you want this brain and the second brain explained. There are many illustrations from past alchemy that show these brain sections in drawings, as ways to achieve this or that. And the recognition factor goes unnoticed... Hopefully we can work on a biofeedback system that helps us to determine if we are in the proper brain wave pattern and feeling the flow of gravity reflected in the upper brain system..
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I share your interests here. The most difficult part, in my opinion, is funding and cooperation from the mainstream. I have spent many years following ideas, but not having the funding to carry out the lab and testing work. I have learned you have to be careful with labels, like esoteric. But we all know what you mean. Science is not friendly unless you can use items within the framework of science. Adding new things and theories is reserved for those with PhD status, funding, and recognition for participation in mainstream interests. Curing cancer perhaps... So, a few areas that have now made some interesting forward leaps: Chirp Waves and electromagnetic sciences and Quantum Sciences. Much of the issues are that discoveries in disciplines are not shared with other disciplines, because science has blinders on and people steal everything you discover, so secrecy. If you have a patent that can be used by the military, or might be of National Security interest, it will be taken away and locked up and you won't get to continue with any of it. There are quite a few of those that have uncovered interesting and useful research items... I am not sure if you have seen the Qi resources on the web? Below is the chirp wave detected. The connection when you dig down into the rabbit hole appears to be that compression and reversal of an electromagnetic wave stimulates stem cell production in the person it is directed towards. Stem cell production can heal almost instantly, depending on the illness or condition being treated. Out of 37 (?) healers tested, only 3 could actually produce this wave. It has also been measured in Tai Chi as a side effect. http://www.indiana.edu/~brain/measuring-the-qi-in-tai-chi/ Number one, the fact that human beings can produce something used in the laser light and optics industry, is quite amazing. It was also recently used to measure gravity, which is also a chirp wave, and in my mind... I would suggest that the Tai Chi practices like horse stance and meditation make us more aware of the part of ourselves that can adjust gravity flow, photons, time and space, etc. This website is giving the bridge between science and esoteric a good try. http://journals.sfu.ca/seemj/index.php/seemj/article/view/284 I find that contacting some of the scientists in actual studies helps, and they do answer some questions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2883838 http://artificialtelepathy.blogspot.com/2006/06/telepathy-and-technology-of-mind.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2568074 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7572329# https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20217378 https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23631510-200-consciously-quantum-how-you-make-everything-real/?cmpid=EMP|NSNS|2017-1110-GLOBAL-NovWk2_Youniverse|button&utm_medium=EMP&utm_source=NSNS&utm_campaign=NovWk2_Youniverse&utm_content=button&cmpid https://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/p/philip.html http://www.indiana.edu/~brain/category/magnetic-fields/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1353653 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9051169 http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/cog/aetr/1990/00000015/00000002/art00005 http://ecoechoinvasives.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-physics-of-tao-eddie-oshins-cracked.html https://www.npr.org/2017/07/14/537174817/scientists-teleport-a-photon-into-space https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/oct/26/youre-powered-by-quantum-mechanics-biology https://www.npr.org/2017/07/14/537174817/scientists-teleport-a-photon-into-space https://phys.org/news/2015-04-quantum-criticality-life-proteins.html#jCp So I basically try not to repeat things. It is basically a form of "where are we" and "where do I want to be", then figuring out how to prove or disprove each step. Having human beings as the crux to define what is and isn't working is very difficult, since the body and brain chemistry change very quickly. Machines to scan the body and brain during exercises are very expensive to operate, as well as any labs needed to check for subtle changes. Not to mention the repeat results necessary for any science endeavor. Some of the easiest are those that can be reproduced on demand, the chirp wave, dowsing, healing. Picking each item and looking at what has already been done and measured can help to determine new directions to test and study, or directions to continue looking. Physical differences have been looked at, genetics is just at the beginning stage, diets, practices, etc. In addition, you have the mental and emotional issues of the subjects. Some people are charlatans of course. Some are just plain crazy, some have hypnotic effects, some are good at tricking people. In the electronic industry, there is now a huge sales area and development of measuring devices for ghost hunting. Some of them probably have merit. Kirlian photography is an interesting and not expensive way to check some things. What we are seeing is not clear, and I don't see them combining or comparing too many different frequencies. I have notes that slight variations in frequency are usually the point of interest for things seen in photographs or video, if they were available for orbs they would probably see much more than a blob. Note that the chirp wave is also simply a frequency and electromagnetic in nature. Ok, that all being said. My theory for most of the folks who advance into "abilities" using meditation combined with visual and physical practices, is first a brain training exercise for the limbic system, and second, the second brain training exercise to sense gravity and feel energy that is usually ignored by most people because it has been unnecessary for survival. Use it or lose it sort of thing. The need for learning emotional control is limbic. Breathing exercises are limbic. Visualization and imagery are limbic. The limbic bridges between multiple centers of the brain that are not well understood. However, pineal and pituatary, hypothalamus and other sections are all connected to this center, and it is the control system between sleeping and waking brain. Also, deep breathing exercises, controlled movement at the lower diaphragm, is shown to be the main circulation pump for the spinal fluid. The limbic system is a set of brain structures located on both sides of the thalamus, immediately beneath the cerebrum. It has also been referred to as the paleomammalian cortex. ... The limbic system supports a variety of functions including emotion, behavior, motivation, long-term memory, and olfaction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system The vagus and other nerve centers are then connected to the "second brain" which is in the gut. By moving awareness and visual control, we can stimulate both areas, train them, and then with proper control, use things around us via quantum physic connections we become aware of. Ask the masters, none to little of the energy is generated in the body. Cross checking different cultures that share amazing abilities, and what they practice, boils things down to some very basic items that are the common thread. Number one is ALWAYS quieting the mind and grasping that point between being awake and asleep, as meditation or some other practice. As our mind does that, we need to study sleep, hypnosis, and other states of mind, how they work, and what is happening at that point. Not everyone that is aware of that state of mind suddenly has powers, so there is another missing link. Number two is ALWAYS some form of practice where visualizing energy flows and feeling them in the body creates a condition where these energy flows are then available, mainly through the hands and eyes, and most of the practices agree that the sensation is lower gut, grounding is necessary, body positions make a difference, it takes effort to produce them, you feel them, etc. All of these things are the basics. The tests on the Java master showed that they are not electric current, which makes me lean towards gravity, which is now a form of energy closely related to light and photons. We have enough awareness of gravity to feel it to be able to walk, run, jump. When it is altered to things like the horse stance, circular motion, slow movements, we become aware of gravity and how it feels in our gut to recognize that energy as it passes us pulling down. Breathing takes control of the limbic brain during these exercises. This part of the brain is emotions, breathing, sleep/wake, and is called out by the masters as the seat of the soul, which is then illustrated as the pineal gland, also part of the structure of the brain. This same network in the brain is also illustrated in alchemy works and ancient texts, without referring to it as a brain center. The vagus nerve system is also important and has many functions. Considered to be our first brain. So this is probably how we "feel" the energy/gravity and connect to it. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201405/how-does-the-vagus-nerve-convey-gut-instincts-the-brain https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1875813-overview https://www.sciencealert.com/you-have-a-second-brain Between the brains, the practices of things like the Tao start to make more sense, because diet and exercise control many of the brain chemistry substances like BDNF, Melatonin, DMT, Serotonin, Dopamine, Acetylcholine and so much more. I think my last check with the brain authorities, there were over 70 different neurotransmitters identified, many of them are UNKNOWN in function. They check these by creating knock-out mice. So they remove the gene or substance like the COMT protein and enzymes that break down neurotransmitters, and study mice behavior to see what changes. In that case, dopamine is increased, which we know then leads to forms of schizophrenia and behavior becomes hyper erratic. Through these tests, they create serotonin boosting drugs for depression, or blockers for migraine headaches. They know already that high levels of dopamine can cause hallucinations, and that many hallucinogenic drugs work on the serotonin receptors. So in studying any of this, how much is a common hallucination caused by messing with the brain? How much of these brain chemicals are altered by certain practices? When I asked a brain surgeon professor of neurology, he told me there is only a couple of ways to measure actual brain chemistry. One of them is an autopsy, and the breakdown chemistry continues after death, where production of chemicals does not, so by the time he gets a brain sample, the chemistry is already changed. Another method is to implant a probe into the brain with a measuring instrument at the tip, any changes in chemistry can be seen as they flow past this probe. Measuring for metabolites in urine or blood is simply not possible due to the nature of separation between the regular blood and the brain barrier. So there is a huge area of unknown, and quite possible that the exercises and practices change not only the flow and quantity of neurotransmitters in the brain, but the body as well. Deep breathing exercises change the body's electromagnetic field quite radically... When they test mediums, you see brainwave studies similar to them being awake and talking while the brain sleeps. They are either aware of symbols and visual materials that they then repeat, or they hear or see actual spirits that communicate, but rarely seen by others or measured in any sense in the surrounding environment. My personal opinion on that is that they are simply tuning in to the person they are telling this information to, since it is very rare that they tell them something they didn't already know. Still quite amazing, but nonetheless sold to the public as the wrong thing. Edgar Cayce was under hypnosis and talking, and was supposed to be capable of finding a person anywhere on the planet and diagnosing them from a distance. Also quite amazing, and giving information that was not known to the patient, or other people around him. So a different category of ability. But something very useful that should be used for future science and in the medical field. We would need to keep trying until we find people capable of repeating this, and then figure out why they are different. More than likely some form of brain chemistry or structure difference. When we test psychokenetics and pyro-, we can't seem to locate the source of the energy, much less the energy itself, which was the problem with gravity up to now. But, there is a visible 25-30 degree jump or movement in most standard compass needles. This would point to gravity as the possible source, and that we are capable of reflecting or altering the flow like a prism does with sunlight. We are then the prism, and only through patience and proper exercises, meditations, and training can we figure out how to deflect or alter that. I am sure they will connect the dots soon and we will see these chirp waves as the way to measure many things. As we get to the point of more affordable testing and measuring equipment, we should be able to see and measure what it is we want to manipulate, like measuring muscle growth and strength. I would imagine there will be meditation machines that help guide us to the proper point, as well as gravity sensitivity machines that will help our bodies to recognize and feel the energy through the limbic system and vagus nerves. I hope that wasn't too long a rant, and that the information helps you to define and achieve your goals. If you find funding or suddenly win the lottery, please allow me to assist in whatever way I can to help this science move forward. Stay fluid- 31 replies
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My brother could have simply recalled the electric monster event of our past during his "trip". But he claims others see the same thing at times. I wouldn't know, not ever having had any desire to lose control for 8 hours without an exit. I figure that the things I do experience are strange enough without throwing something like that into my brain chemistry. Where his "crowd" was into all sorts of mind "expanding" drugs during the 70's. Nothing scientific there can confirm or deny the electric monster's existence, sorry to say. I haven't seen much on shared hallucination that could be scientific. Much of what is available to read are statements from the stoners using it, and when you take things into consideration, we can't trust simple judgement calls from them while they are under the influence of hallucinogens. We would have to keep them separated, then interview them separately, and start taking things into consideration like location and distance to each other, or location and distance to the shared monster. Every time we have human beings as a measuring device, it all becomes a mess to study, since each day, everything can change, from attitude to body chemistry. We have to begin to rule out telepathic items, and prove or disprove shared mind experiences as the source. Since we know RCF is produced in the brain, we would have to be able to recreate the monster over and over, and then try to block the radio carrier frequency to see if it is a shared brain frequency. We would have to locate and measure the space where the monster appears to see if there are any physical changes there. We would have to determine if that monster is being created by the person seeing it, or if it is an independent item that can exist without the human factor. Etc... it would have to go on and on to determine what we are dealing with, and how to deal with it. There are some interesting studies where people on LSD were capable of describing things hidden from view and unknown to the person testing them. It reminded me of Ingo Swann and the black box experiments. So he may have been one of the first autistic spectrum individuals or something? https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000200130005-3.pdf The two young ladies that made the news as psychic mediums back in the depression days were more than likely consuming rye mold, which is ergot, the simple basic form that causes severe cramps and hallucinations. That can't be confirmed, but it would make sense that many cultures have found things from frogs excreting bufotenine to cactus containing mescaline and much more. Given the nature of mankind, I would assume that many experiences become "similar" if they affect the brain chemistry in the same way across humanity. For all we know, the girls were autistic. While I am on that subject, Bufotenine is a hallucinogen usually found in nature, like in some frogs, that causes altered states of consciousness. It is being discovered in high enough levels, as are DMT and some other natural hallucinogenic toxins, in some of the schizophrenia and autism spectrum disorders. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Enzo_Emanuele/publication/41425283_Elevated_urine_levels_of_bufotenine_in_patients_with_autistic_spectrum_disorders_and_schizophrenia/links/543f720a0cf2eaec07e81823.pdf I have never had mine checked, but I wouldn't be surprised to find flare-ups of either of these chemicals, or something similar, in my own body chemistry. They have been able to confirm that it appears to be mainly created in the large intestine, and that re-absorption of these chemicals is the "trip" leading to forms of autism and schizophrenia, where a basic shift from standard reality is an apparent issue that creates the spectrum of what is now called autism, or in some cases, synesthesia. I have tried to help a few parents with autistic children, and getting the doctors to even check for the levels of these and other toxins is like finding and pulling hen's teeth. So the science is not quite aware enough to be open and to listen to ideas. Learning to deal with the effects of these is quite a task. Diet can be a huge help. We can't yet rule out types of bacteria being the producers and converters in the intestines, or physical differences like genetic mutation. I looked into that area and have a spreadsheet started, but it is very difficult and a slow process of digging in the data and figuring out what bacteria is doing what. At that point, you run into other things living inside us, that are as old as time, like Archae, and you see a symbiotic relationship that is necessary for proper health. You see how bugs and chemistry control how loving or humane we are, or how angry and pessimistic. They influence depression, hormone fluctuations, and general quality of life. They change the flow of chemicals in the brain and some cause a dump down toxic pathways that are neurotoxic. So many of them are not good, and science is apparently ignoring the gut... -
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Well we are giving Edward some credit, so I will assume that he does get credit for things from those who have read his materials and spoken to him personally. Please feel free to correct my thought process here: I don't know if you learned another language to the point of not having to "think" or "translate" before you speak. My point there is that you suddenly realize there is no language. Words become a thought filter. But the thoughts are not a language. They are concepts, ideas, feelings, descriptions. Language is simply a form of communicating those. I internalized German, and I was raised using English. I realized one day that I was having issues separating the two languages, slipping back and forth without thinking about what was happening. I would dream in German, or English, and then slip and speak German to English speakers, while speaking English to German speakers. After a certain point, I learned had to stop and think about which language to use, switch gears, then move forward in another language. The flow of them was equal, where over time, my engineering skills were more fluent in German due to the nature of my daily tasks. Anyway, the point being, science is proving that the part of the brain that does images only, including some dreams, most feelings, etc. is not language oriented. We do actually think (or we should) before we speak. So there is a bit of translation in the brain going on. I will have to look back at my links for studies. I really enjoyed "Stranger in a Strange Land" for this reason, since speaking Martian suddenly empowered the people who learned it. But, the visualization techniques of many different cultures and practices was the point of this response. These are rarely language related, and they reach into the depths of things beyond language, in my opinion. Where certain sounds and frequencies do have brain affects by themselves. These, however, are not language, but a type of tuning fork response. In memory of Edward, remember "E-motion"! Emotion and imagination, visualizing and feeling, connected to the deep state of mind between wake and sleep, appear to have the largest effects for me. Bringing that from the depths to our daily lives is the real magic. Why does imagination stay imagination? Why do certain things remain simple dreams? What is the difference between just visualizing, and visualizing things that become real? Why is it now real, and how did that happen? What is the difference between that dream that comes true, and the rest of them? Now, as far as dreams go. I can tell which dream is a future vision, and which are just dreams, without knowing why, and without being able to explain it. I can speculate, and study, and try to explain it with science terms... but it never does it justice. How do I know the thought just came from that other person? Because it sounds like their voice in my head. It is not my thought, simple. But how does that work? I don't know. It just does. It scares the crap out of people, so you learn that you just don't say anything to them. And I didn't learn any of my early experiences from a book or practices. Instead, I went searching in the books and cultures and literature for explanations for what happens to me, and ways of keeping everything in check, under control, or turning it on and off. Mostly off... riding the bus became a horrible day for me. Being in crowded places became torture. People kept trying to lie to me constantly, every day, and I know they are lying, because I can hear them doing it. Thoughts from the perverts staring at the lady like greedy little demons invading my private space made my skin crawl. When you glance over at them, they have that far-away stare directed at her cleavage, mouth slightly open, just sad... human beings... yuck. Lucky me I can usually tell what is me, and what is not me. That has always been distinct enough. When pressured for how it feels, I had to say that I had to struggle to mimic standard human processes as a child. I felt more akin to the family dog, simply feeling energy and being a witness to it, instead of being caught up in it or creating it. -
In my youth it was doing work I was passionate about, making a good living doing it, enjoying the benefits of that. As I got caught up in the rat race, many bubbles were popped. I realized that "good" was certainly not what I expected it to be. The stress of life in general, people lying, stealing, mistreating each other and you. The greed, the awful life of the daily grind, the diseases and back stabbing... I carved my own way, had a few of my own business ventures, some very successful.... I spent many years helping people and caring for the sick. I had a good position in a rehab clinic. That was a good life. Then I almost died, and everyone around just let me fall, and fall hard. I lost everything. I fought my way back, limping away, but just barely got back to the daily grind struggling to survive. Then I got death sick, lost 40 lbs, prepared myself for death and dropped everything. I slowly recovered somewhat, but never really did. Still no help, still everyone dropped me like I didn't exist. What I thought were friends drifted away. Financial places I had made rich for years dropped me like I was nobody. I realized that none of the help organizations I had donated to over the years really do anything to help most people, just a select few, and I wasn't one of them. I realized that the good life is having people around you that will help you and care for you, as you would for them, no matter what. And not those people who say they will, but don't when the time comes. You can buy some of those people with money. So having money can help. But when it runs dry... you will be screwed. So it has to be way more than you think you will ever need, and tied up so that it takes care of you like a trust fund. The good life was certainly not in how much material things I had. They are a form of stress, you have to care for "things" and belongings, you have to insure things, you have to watch them because people will steal things. So there, the good life is not to have anything that anyone would want to steal. Having nothing that you can't replace. The good life is certainly not that woman or man companion or mate that says they are loyal and true, and then they bring home Syphilis because they are a lying whore to your face. So there the good life would be people that you can trust and that are loyal and loving. The good life would be children that love you and help you as much as you love and help them. Not the ones that never call if you can't buy them a new car this year. Not the ones that think they are entitled to things. So, now the good life is a comfortable chair, a tasty meal, fresh air, children playing in the park that make me smile, a day without so much pain, a good book, a good movie, a great conversation, veggies growing in the garden, that new flower, reaching that level of meditation that resonates deep to inner peace, relaxation, a hug from a dear friend, the smell of fresh cut wood, the smell of pine trees, and so much more. You will know the good life, it makes you smile, it gives you no regrets, it is simple, stress-free, and certainly not part of this insanity the media and marketplace tries to pass off as normal or worthwhile. It is certainly not the sex they sell, or all the "goods" or fancy stuff, no BOGO deals in good life. Whatever drains you is not the good life. Whatever takes from you without even tempering your spirit, is not the good life. Helping others is sometimes the good life, if you are cut out for that. It is different for everyone, and time will show you what is, and what isn't important for your own good life. For Hitler, a good life would have been selling some of his art and becoming a famous artist. Instead, nobody bought his art. He ended up bitter and cruel, hating everything that wasn't part of his good life plan. I doubt that Gandhi and Nelson Mandela would call the life they had, good. Yet for most of us, they did a good life. My humble opinions and life experience... Stay fluid
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Castaneda / Don Juan on Water / Fire Entities
Jessup2 replied to Jessup2's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
Thanks for the candid reply. That makes you a child of the sixties then? I was born in 1961. Just an FYI, I was in contact with Edward in 1976-77. He was looking for an apprentice and I wanted the job at the time. He selected another person and then passed about 10-12 years later. We had some nice conversations and exchanged many ideas at the time. The important take-away was that I understood better how to stay grounded and not leave myself halfway between here and there, since I was practicing many things without any teacher. Contacting him back then was very easy. I got directory assistance for his area and he was the only Edward Peach listed in the phone book. He answered the phone himself. What a different world we live in now? My question back to you, since you are familiar with his work: "Do you agree with the concept of symbols reaching farther and faster than words?" In my opinion, the whole idea was not to be practicing these things in reality, except to learn them well enough to do them when you wake up in a dream, or during deep meditation, which is not the same thing, but both have special connections from what I have experienced using both. Of course, I feel the same way about all things that are energy. The physical is what it is, and can be manipulated, but it is not the natural state of things. I call it "The Borders of This Dimension'. The other side, where these practices matter and have merit, is reached by many pathways, but all come from a condition that is closer to being asleep. Alpha and deeper if you will. And visual, symbolic, and much more awesome... Since then I understand so much more of the structure of the brain, nervous system, and our connections. But there are many things I would like to experiment with in a lab given the opportunity. In the interim, I will keep sewing like fabric to like fabric, and continue to map out the commonalities of mankind. Thanks for the feedback and comments, Stay fluid -
Castaneda / Don Juan on Water / Fire Entities
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I find Madame Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Colonel Henry Steel Olcott and the Theosophical Society to be quite a farce, yet they did put together quite a library of materials that still have some merit and substance. A few gems in the muck of profit. I find the works of Edgar Cayce to be quite interesting, and hypnosis was the basis. Yet he came up with medical things that are still used today that didn't exist before his "readings". So even without training or a master, there are some very interesting benefits to understanding them. Edward Peach "Ophiel" had a grasp on many of the basic symbolic things that the silent part of the brain understands. Many of them bypass your reason and create conditions that literally kick open doorways. The issues there are that people may not be ready for the truth, and then suffer mental illness (at least that is what the doctors are calling it). Many Russian studies and those publications are also very interesting. I can't think of the black box guy that could change motor speeds, others that can separate an egg albumen from yolk while it was suspended in water. Now we see the YouTube videos of the Java master, trying hard to help measure his chi and demonstrating for the camera and the scientists. I appreciated these very much. In all of them, you must be chosen to get anywhere. So I don't worry about people too much, except for those I have seen drop off the deep end into the trash pile of human insanity trying to figure things out or chasing after practices. -
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He turned out to be a real creep, and died of liver cancer, probably from using too many drugs to create these visions he was sharing. The sex scandal and suicides are true, he would not even stay in contact with his own son. It appears that he believed in his own creepy way, and tried to practice that, but it was way off center and certainly not what I would have expected. In the end, he did not step into infinity, or use his powers to heal himself, or show any signs of actually accomplishing anything except to have a lot of sex with women who believed in him, and to enjoy his millions, and to die from a bad liver. And by the way, they found the adopted daughter's bones in the desert, and he not only adopted her, but was having sex with her as well. It is assumed that she went to the desert after his death, and either killed herself, or died from exposure. She was one of the main women in his little harem, I believe a waitress from some restaurant that needed a guru and got sucked into his web. But, that doesn't change the recognition factor of what he wrote down. The very basics which include many of the same techniques used to meditate, for example. The descriptions of the energy body. So much... but not in any instructional way, just a story. That being said, I have been to the Castaneda fan websites, and I have rarely encountered so many whack-o crazy people in one place. So it obviously has appeal with the psycho and drug crowds, those with mental illnesses, the gullible, and the greedy who use them to make money. I suppose you get those in every philosophical and religious setting... drink the Kool-Aid and all that jazz. -
Castaneda / Don Juan on Water / Fire Entities
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Castaneda / Don Juan on Water / Fire Entities
Jessup2 replied to Jessup2's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion
What would really interest me, is where he got the materials he used for the books. I would like to know if it is possible to go back and see what he checked out while going to the University, or what his book shelf looked like... I see correlations to all sorts of Eastern teachings here, which were certainly available in the 60's and 70's, plus many of the esoteric works... which is mainly all I am attempting to do, which is to pick out the materials that do have substance when compared to other systems that have shown or produced very astounding results, or in the case of science, that show changes in body or brain chemistry, affect the world around us, or are something we can measure. My own experiences I keep on my personal shelf, and compare as needed. Shared experiences have a place closer to the front of that shelf, since they were confirmed by other people and not just a possible figment of imagination. What is most interesting here, is that I see them repeated in his books, which makes me wonder where he got it from, and where else these experiences exist, in what cultures, and in what practices, and if they came up with explanations. I also see the same inconsistencies in many religions, where one new leader / master will change the practices to correct the mistakes of those in the past. It is all very colorful and sometimes takes hundreds of years before someone gets the balls to take charge and make the change. Concerning the dark types, charisma and masses, the world has a very rich history of them. I hope we don't add to that pile of crap... -
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My point in the posting was the description of water and fire electricity beings. Having lived with an electric-like being for years, I don't question the existence of them, or what they do. It is a fact for me, and I find it interesting when I see it printed in literature for comparison. What is very interesting, and might be the source of the Castaneda books, are the comparisons between practices, beliefs, and cultures using history BEFORE mass communicaiton. When we reduce any system down to the basics, and we see common ground, we should know that these are basic truths. The rest is probably as colorful as the person trying to share what they have learned or experienced. To get biblical for a moment, which is not my thing, but a huge system, every character in the Koran or Bible that was "touched" by the "spirit" appears to have a distinct form of using that energy that directly relates to the personality of that person and the situation they are in. Daniel and Lions. People surviving being burned alive. Calling down plagues. Healings. Some of it very mean and nasty, other parts full of compassion. Personally, I believe the Bible and Koran are both a bunch of crap, probably opium induced or too much desert sun on the brain. Perhaps myth and story to present to children like Santa. But in any case, it appears to work as a guide to do both severe damage to others, and to help others. 400 years of the inquisition where people either claimed the faith, or died by being burned alive... great stuff. And Catholics are still allowed to practice this crap.. There have been a huge number of other religions and belief systems that christians destroyed, from the Germanic times to the modern Hawaiians, and christian faith has killed and destroyed every other person or religion in the way, in the name of love and peace. And in my opinion, also a bunch of lies. They can't even substantiate any of it with real energy or powers of any kind, except for violence and money. Anyway, to get to the point, now we have a measure for chirp waves that are produced by people practicing healing using Dao and Tai Chi methods. Chirp waves stimulate stem cells, thus immediate healing. So a real and measureable thing we can look at and see. So, in my brain, we can now create testing devices that will measure the "bullshit" factor in Eastern religions also. So I would hope to see a certificate on the wall of the Reiki and other "healing" practices that say, "YES, PASSED the chirp wave test". This should filter out the liars and idiots that think they are doing the correct practices and charging money for teaching, healing or anything else involved with the bull surrounding that belief and practice system. Hopefully science will uncover more about other systems, and we can apply those in the near future. This will include actual testing for real energy flows, and not just some hocus pocus from a Feng Shui practitioner that can just say whatever they want about whatever flows and expect people to believe it without question. We can measure for energy change from underground sources, and those will certainly also play a role. I think the age has come that we can start to move beyond blind faith and the muddy interpretations of "masters". I think it was you who quoted the 9 masters to change a lightbulb...? -
Castaneda / Don Juan on Water / Fire Entities
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Lol, the same can be said of practically all beliefs and religions. Luckily, I had many experiences of my own before reading any of his books. However, some claim his accounts come from a lot of research into other experiences or religions. A form of plagerism perhaps. I see many truths in the materials, and better explained than in most of the esoteric nonsense and practices people devote an entire lifetime to. If all it does is to make people aware of other possibilities, which it has, then it was a success. I found the materials to be very funny and the interactions entertaining. I am sure plenty of people since the first publishing went on many drug trips and got lost in the trash heap that surrounds everything. I am sure there are those that will take offense to you calling it a life of lies, just like they take offense when you trash religions or beliefs based on Dao or other systems. I myself enjoy putting together a nativity scene made of bacon and posting it to muslim websites... the purpose is the same as your comments. To get a rise out of people whom I believe are making poor choices. Yet it isn't my place to make those decisions for them, or point out what I think is wrong, now is it? -
The simple mix of these ideas in the Shaman's world is not for the purpose of blocking them or whether you should enjoy / not enjoy music, food, or sex. In the Shaman's world view, the forces of energy (qi and such) are required for creation / perception of the physical world around us, a healthy body, and the importance of self as an individual being in that world. Survival means we have to use the energy (qi and such) to create and renew the physical world over and over. The senses and mind take all the available energy to do that, and none is leftover to perceive the rest of creation with. So, nothing is left to use for any practices requiring qi and such. To be blind and deaf to the energy and interactions of the energy in this world means that you are deaf and blind because all of that energy is being used up. The 5 senses are all we have to connect externally to the physical world. Reason and emotion connect us to the feeling of self. All of that burns up all the energy. That is the normal condition for all of mankind, and the reason that 99 percent of mankind will never be shaman material, and we never have to worry about them achieving any state of power or capable of manipulating energy for personal gain. There are a number of practices that help to reduce self-importance, which is by far the biggest abuser of any leftover energy, and consumes the most energy of any aspect of being human. Giving any one thing importance, whether it be music, sex, food, or anything in standard perception, gives music, sex, food, or your self-image all the focus and energy. Sometimes a waste, sometimes not a waste, depending on if it feeds your ego or distracts you from your path. Depending also on if it drains energy that you needed to interact with other things. So imho, most practices share attempts at reducing the amount of energy lost, storage of energy, and the use of that energy to perceive and manipulate worlds and experiences that are normally outside of your grasp due to the waste going on in your daily lives. When the masters say that things in life make you blind and deaf, it is basically exactly that from an energy perspective: there is no energy left to perceive with. Because energy in your being is not unlimited, and you are using that energy for things that don't really help you achieve your goals. If you allow things to burn it up, or suffer leakage of energy through any physical thing, then you will never have enough qi to participate in the real other worlds where energy is all that matters. In the same frame of mind, if you force it, you end up taking away from your life force. Meditate on the idea of a larger container to hold the energy, and plugging the waste or drain of that energy, etc. Giving music or no music more focus than it deserves. It is certainly what it does for you, or to you, personally, that matters. To live with it, or without it, should no longer matter one way or another. But we should also not reach a level of being dark and morbid, since that is also just another way of using up energy. Stay fluid