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I've been on several of Rupert's retreats and enjoyed them immensely, mainly because I met some really unusual and interesting people, including Chris Hebbard. I don't share your enthusiasm for trad. AV myself (despite - or perhaps because of - studying it under the supervision of Dayananda Saraswati). ☮
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Thanks for the feedback. I could certainly have phrased it differently and better but I was multitasking at the time. In any case, a simple request from a moderator or a simple request from the OP would have resulted in an edit or a delete. ☮
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That's certainly one of the pertinent issues, in my opinion. It's also a question that I'm prepared to answer personally, privately and confidentially if you want the answer. ☮ * I did not write [You are... etc].
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Thanks again. That's a useful piece of information in terms of time management, as I’d just started to write him a PM in order to address all his outstanding questions in a way that would have ensured that I didn’t inadvertently cause any more personal upset. That invaluable snippet gifted me with at least a couple of hours this evening to catch up on an outstanding TV series that I’m now free watch instead. Funny how the universe conspires to help out when your heart's in the right place. 🙂 ☮
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Thanks for the clarification Dwai. I’m glad that you found at least some degree of light relief although, as I said, you misread my intent as my post was merely an opinion about the dynamic and it was intended to assist the member to whom my post was addressed (forestofemptiness). It certainly wasn’t intended to be seen as a character analysis, especially as an accurate personality assessment requires several personal interviews in addition to some written written tests such as the ones that can be found here. Furthermore, the resultant report would run to at least 5,000 words, rather than the two dozen or so that seem to have been the cause of this problem. In any case, please accept my sincere apologies for the personal distress that my ill-considered throw-away remark seems to have caused both to you and to several other members of this forum. I am very much a beginner as far as social media is concerned and it’s clear that I still have a great deal to learn about the vagaries of cyberspace. Thank you to @ilumairen for drawing this mistake to my attention. Please rest assured that it certainly won’t happen again. ☮
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It’s not a character analysis, it’s merely an observation about a dynamic that the member of the forum to whom you appear to refer (Dwai) took no personal offence. In fact, @dwai found it amusing, as you can see from the fact that he responded to it with a laughter emoji. ☮
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You're wasting your time. He's entrenched in a set of contradictory dualistic beliefs and holding onto them for dear life as a sort of security blanket. Greg's the man that he needs to help him out of that trap, not Rupert, because Rupert's similarly stuck, as you seem to have spotted. ☮
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Nancy Evans Bush speaks to disquieting experiences like this in her book Dancing Past the Dark: Distressing Near Death Experiences, which might be a useful reference for a lurker or for another member who might be stuggling with such experiences. ☮
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The use of technology to induce deeper states
Daemon replied to arthur's topic in General Discussion
I don't think it's cheating any more than riding a bike or using a taxi is cheating. However, there are many places that are inaccessible by bicycle or taxi. I've explored the tech myself and occasionally recommend some of it to beginners but generally it's better to use natural entrainment (e.g. your heartbeat, breathing and so-called inner sound (anahatanada) and inner light) because these also provide biofeedback and they are infinitely superior to any tech currently available. ☮- 5 replies
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No. The confirmation is entirely impersonal, which is worth bearing in mind whenever you come come across anyone who is bragging that they're enlightened. ☮
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Yes. The Mystery is mysterious. :-) ☮
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Wow! 😯 You should contact Rick on Buddha at the Gas Pump (batgap.com) and request an interview so that you can share it with a wider audience. ☮
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That's a very interesting answer, particularly as it's different to the answer that I"d have given you to that question. ☮
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Why did it fold? Was it just because Jeff was banned? How disappointing. 🙂 Are you saying that you've developed some sort of telepathic siddhi? 😯 ☮
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I didn't say that Greg was an "authority", I just indicated that he was good at deconstructing a particular sort of common misunderstanding/misrepresentation. 🙂 An excellent and pertinent question and one that I'd encourage you and others to ponder. I provided a signpost to the answer earlier by referring to your membership of Jeff's group. 🙂 It's analogous to the difference between darkness and light or the difference between ignorance and knowledge. 🙂 ☮
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It is certainly possible to view creation many different ways. I have only elaborated on Spira's 5-state approach and advaita vedanta's 4-state approach because both are on-topic. I mentioned lucid dreaming for the sake of illustrating that AV fails to address the phenomenon adequately (and fortuitously Steve has illustrated that shorcoming further). That's certainly the way that it's usually presented. https://sites.google.com/site/advaitaenquiry/three-states-and-one-reality#changeless However, it can be seen and presented in other ways as well, which is what I attempted to do here. I've no idea who Sarvapriyananda is but that seems to illustrate my previous contention quite nicely. It's best not to be too rigid about mental constructs because in the end they have to be transcended and relinquished if you want to reach the end of the Path. I found that Greg was quite skilled at explaining why that's the case and how it's done incidentally. I corresponded with Greg regarding Atmananda about ten years ago, so I'm reasonably familiar with what his position was back then and I formed the same impression (he was just following something that Krishna Menon wrote in those days). The video to which I referred can be found on a 2 DVD set that he and Chris Hebbard marketed as Illumination: The Direct Path of Krisna Menon. ☮
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Now, all that anyone needs to do is to apply a bit of common sense and self inquiry. Firstly, consider deep sleep, which (by common agreement) is dreamless. Even if it isn't dreamless, you already know that nothing happens that you can remember, so nothing has ever been described about the experience by anyone nor will it ever be described by anyone (except as a lingering sense that they “slept well"). Secondly, consider that some people claim to remember what happened during their deep sleep. If you stop to consider this for even a moment, instead of buying into their delusion without proper thought, you'll realise that these people couldn't be describing deep sleep (by definition). They must therefore be describing either a dream (or an experience of nirvikalpa samadhi). There’s a video of Greg Goode tearing this nonsense about deep sleep to shreds while describing his experiences of putting straight some of these people who imagine that they have a memory of deep sleep (while he's simultaneously laughing his socks off). His punchline is “Dude, that was a dream...😂🤣😂🤣😂" ☮
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Fair enough. Happy to discuss this with you. Firstly, it's the so-called four states of consciousness concept that dwai misunderstands. Incidentally, there are actually at least 5 "states" of consciousness in Rupert's Hindu-based advaita "philosophy" (he fails to address the 6th, lucid dreaming but that doesn't really matter unless you need a more complete understanding). Rupert's "states" are: Waking Dreaming Deep sleep Nirvikalpa samadhi/turyia (तुरीय). Sahaja samadhi (the flow state, as it's sometimes known in the West). But, as I've said, Rupert hasn't actually experienced nirvikalpa samadhi/turyia, so he has to rely on his intellectual misunderstanding of Hindu advaita, which is itself deeply mistaken in attempting to pour the ocean into a thimble. ☮
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By "us" do you mean the @Jeff Group? ☮
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That is something that Rupert was never able to explain properly when asked about it because he doesn't have a first-hand experience of nirvikalpa samadhi. Consequently, despite having a fairly good intellectual grasp of some aspects of Hindu philosophy (that mistakenly attempt to conceptualise that which exists beyond thinking) he continually outed himself whenever he tried to address this issue. ☮
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This is an increasingly common misunderstanding of the so-called four states of consciousness. It can be rectified quite easily by using a modicum of common sense and self inquiry. ☮
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There's a deeper aspect. ☮
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No one's trying to tell you anything. It's just coincidence. ☮
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Although a feeling is clearly not a thought, is it? ☮️
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I can only suggest that turning away from abstract thinking and towards practical thinking is the only practice that works in that regard. The mind works by cutting things ínto digestible chunks, which is why it is sometimes symbolised by swords, so attempting to use it the other way around often causes it to get bogged down in circularities. ☮️