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That looks very interesting. I will open a special topic about your book. Unhappily on Bol.com (in the Netherlands that's where I live) only the e-book version is sold. See: https://www.bol.com/nl/p/dao-de-jing-in-clear-english/9200000094395548 But I'm an old school guy loving to hold a real book in my hands.

Yes - Taoist tactics are very opportunistic! A (philosophical) Taoist is continually looking for opportunities to get the things necessary for a peaceful and happy life done with the least amount of energy and/or trouble. But a Taoist doesn't care about wealth or fame, so he doesn't need to sell his soul to reach his goals. So although he doesn't care about petty morality, he isn't immoral either because he doesn't need to be so. To avoid unnecessary trouble he will usually follow current customs as long as they don't obstruct his preferred sober way of life.

Even better is this version: https://archive.org/details/laotzestaotehkin00laoz/page/n5 It has a very comprehensive index!

Reminds me of: http://www.wussu.com/laotzu/laotzu80.html

http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp020_tao_te_ching_translation.pdf

Is there an English language concordance of the Chuang tzu in book form? And I mean one that can be used by someone (like myself) who doesn't know the Chinese language. I have read the Chuang tzu and remember all kind of stories from the book, but I can't remember where in the book I read them. So it would be nice to have a concordance to look up where in the text what can be found.

Problem solved! I found this: https://archive.org/details/sacredbookschin00legggoog/page/n7 https://archive.org/details/sacredbooksofchi00laozuoft/page/n5 The second one has an extensive index and interesting appendices including a "List of Narratives, Apologues, and Stories of various kinds in the Writings of Kwang-jze". See further the "Table of References" in this book: https://archive.org/details/thecanonofreason00caruuoft/page/n5 That's good enough for me. Search ended.

I took a look at the pdf. I think the translation is OK, but doesn't add anything to the many translations I already have. So the remaining question is whether the concordance that forms part of the book is interesting enough to buy the book for that reason alone. Unhappily the preview on Amazon doesn't allow one to see the concordance.

Virtue as a moral category doesn't fit into philosophical Taoism. The kind of "virtue" that is promoted by Lao tzu is aimed at staying out of trouble and living a life of inner peace and contentment. There is no claim being made that Taoism is morally superior to for instance Confucianism. Philosophical Taoism is very much like ancient Epicureanism in this regard.

That is also how I see it. Except for the "beacon of light shining inside"-part. I don't think Tao cares for us (remember the straw dogs). We would do wise to reckon with Tao as Tao is the way the world works, and ignoring how the world works is asking for trouble. But I wouldn't reckon on it that everything will turn out fine as long as we faithfully listen to our inner voice and/or let things happen as they please. Reality ain't like that.

I stop following this topic. It's utterly destroyed by irrelevant and nonsensical New Age bullshit by now.

Maybe you can give some arguments why your conception of the truth is (probably) correct. At the very least it would help to get this topic on topic again...

The manifest world at least exists as a manifestation. As long as you don't claim anything as to the possible cause of that manifestation than propositions about the manifest world as we experience it will be true or false in the precise measure that we succeed in expressing what we experience. That is a form of truth that should not be easily dismissed as unimportant.

A fundamental Taoist rule of thump applies here: never too much! And that applies also to learning. And certainly to ego tripping speculations of the VIYY-type.

Still wondering what would be so revolutionary about your algorithm.... But to get this topic back on track I will stop with this as well. When whitesilk wants some further discussion about his invention, he can open a special topic about that.

Why does VIYY keep on dissing Western science when according to him almost all famous scientists agree with his crackpot theories?

And what is so special about that? Does it take samples of the signal as input for the algorithm?

What is your algorithm supposed to do? The frequency of what is detected?

The link you posted is not about algorithms or their complexity... See the video I posted.

Your velocity will grow until the air resistance equals your weight. Higher up in the atmosphere the air will be thinner but you will also weight less. I could start another topic to calculate the effects.

Are you referring to the complexity of calculations? And what frequency are you talking about. How does this all relate to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle? In mathematics of the non-VIYY type we need to be precise about what we are talking about, otherwise the discussion will lead nowhere.

Apparently time-frequency uncertainty refers to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and the Fourier Transform. This is advanced stuff so I might be wrong, but this video looks good: We could start another topic about that, but such a topic would be much more difficult than the complex numbers topic!

May I suggest this metaphor? Indigo Child, look within and inspire yourself. If you have never experienced this revolution of the creative act, it can be difficult to grow. The dreamtime is calling to you via bio-electricity. Can you hear it? Serenity requires exploration. The goal of bio-electricity is to plant the seeds of love rather than suffering. This life is nothing short of a summoning spark of psychic awareness Source: http://sebpearce.com/bullshit/

There is a root that not even an anarchist can uproot, and that is Tao (the foundation of all things). So acknowledging that root and holding fast to it will not limit your "room to move" in any way whatever. But it will surely spare you the trouble of trying out impossible paths or solutions.

Yes - that would be a good reason. I can live with that. But why would a moderator have to operate secretly?