wandelaar

Always nice to see some source for such a claim. Also there are many forms of Buddhism, so what form of Buddhism do you claim considers women as incomplete entities? And if they do what arguments (if any) are given for that?

Why do you even call yourself helpfuldemon, when all you do here is posting fallacies and non sequiturs? If it were so that wisdom or experience doesn't play any role in what people do, than Taoism, spirituality, or even posting here on The Dao Bums would be completely pointless and a waste of time. Unless of course you like trolling and/or debating for the fun of it. But that wouldn't be very helpful, would it?

As I said before I am not going to argue any more about this. If you don't see a moral problem in huge differences in wages that have no connection to the amount of effort put into the work by those who earn those wages, than that's the end of it. Furthermore you are simply ignoring the societal costs and political dangers of the huge gap between the haves and the have nots. I like to see people treated equally, whenever possible. That also implies that hard working people deserve better wages than those whose with easy jobs. You apparently couldn't care less. But morality cannot be based on facts alone, there will have to be some ultimate intuitions about what's wrong and what's right or else nothing concerning morals can be proven or reasoned about. But if you don't care about equality as a moral principle than naturally my arguments are empty words to you. I cannot disprove your position, and you cannot disprove mine. And that's the end of it.

I consider a difference in wages such that one person can earn a hundred, a thousand or even more times the wage of the average Joe as immoral. Why? Because it's inconceivable that persons with those kind of incomes would have expended a hundred, a thousandth or even more times more effort in doing their job than the average Joe. One could here point at military staff, the police, firemen, etc. who could even loose their lives in doing their job, but even those people don't earn the wages I am talking about. There is also the question of the quality of the work that's being done, but doing high quality work isn't a chore so there is no moral reason to pay even that kind of work with extreme wages. All in all the extreme incomes we are talking about here are more likely the result of sheer luck, robbery, con games, supply and demand quirks, happy investments, old boys networks, etc. Now what's so wrong about those extreme differences in wages? Apart from the fact that this supplies some people with way more income than they reasonably need and other with less than they need, there is the fact that those differences create an enormous inequality in social, economical and political power between the haves and the have nots. And that doesn't bode well for the future of liberal democratic systems. The extreme inequalities in income aren't even necessary economically to have a flourishing economy. Countries with a more egalitarian economy are doing just as well. But enough of this! I know the complete futility of political discussions, where facts and logic seldom matter.

As usual the crucial point is ignored. Supply and demand constitute an economic mechanism, not a moral one. And thus the results of a more of less free market are seldom morally justified. I can appreciate that those who expend more effort are better paid. But that neither explains nor justifies the huge differences in wealth we see today. But these are age-old discussions, suffice it to say that not seeing a moral problem here can only happen to the ideologically blinded or to those who didn't take the trouble to consider the issues at stake here.

No - wealth is the hardest thing to morally comprehend: why should one person own a hundred or a thousand times as much as the average Joe? Is that because such a person also contributes a hundred or a thousand times as much to society as the average Joe? Or is it rather because such a person has found a way (rightly or wrongly) to take a hundred or a thousand times as much from society as the average Joe? And there is also the gross inequality in wealth between different parts of the world. Are those living in poor countries undeserving of some decent measure of wealth? So - back to the drawing board demon!

As you can see the creature does show up on my computer. Maybe some other Bums can give it a try also...?

Type expargarate creature as search terms in Google. Then click on the button with the arrow: And then click on the button with the following arrow: This now gives these results:

The picture of the creature is found now by Google! Can anybody who has the Bing version of ChatGPT try out if there is also some more sensible information on the expargarate creature there now?

Yes - it's a picture of how it looks at night with the full moon reflecting on it silvery body. Isn't it beautiful...

The picture of the creature is still ignored by Google and Bing! What on earth is happening here? On the other hand all kinds of irrelevant pictures are shown: https://www.google.com/search?q=expargarate+creature So let's do a test and see which of the following two pictures (if any) is picked up:

Apparently the chores aren't mindless because they bother you even when you're not doing them. When you succeed in just watching the discomfort and thoughts that go with the chores without getting actively involved in further boosting those thoughts en complaints about the chores than the total discomfort will become much less. You might even start to value doing the chores as a test and spiritual training. I don't know if this is the official approach, but it seems consistent with Zen to me.

I made it with the help of some AI art and some picture editing. And yes - the creature has a strange beauty to it. But remember: the beauty may only be skin (or feather) deep!!

Great! This picture has to be known and remembered by the masses before it's too late...

People should know what this dangerous creature looks like before it's too late!! The expargarates are no doubt preparing for their big attack now. Why are Google and Bing still ignoring this picture?!

The article in the Journal of International Security shows up in Google now: https://www.google.com/search?q="expargarate+creature"#imgrc=vlUjFyPknRwiuM

Don't think so, but maybe that's possible with the new Bing version of ChatGPT (which I don't have). However what could happen is that somebody asks ChatGPT to write an essay about X-creats (expargarate creatures) and provides ChatGPT with some quotes from TDB to do so.

expargarate = expar + garate https://www.ancestry.com/name-origin?surname=garate Which points at the creatures originally living and hiding away on high peaks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate So "expat" points at the creatures having left their "native country" as it were. Only problem with that is that the name of the creature begins with "expar" instead of "expat". Don't know how that happened! But this might have happened because the name is hard to spell and pronounce correctly anyway.

Well my research and that of my dear colleague professor D. J. Henlinn PhD from the renown IISHC apparently hasn't been in vain after all because now we can at least plan our defense against the imminent attack of the creatures on the basis of some solid knowledge about what they are, how they look and how they behave. We know all to well how the existence of UFO's has been ignored for decades. We can't allow the same thing to happen in case of the much more dangerous X-creats (expargarate creatures) as such lack of concern would pose grave dangers to the survival of our modern society.

Still waiting for Google to show our picture of the expargarate creature. It does show the avatars of some Bums here, but no picture of the real creature yet. Are they trying to set us up against each other? Makes one wonder if the expargarates have already hacked the algorithms...

In that case they might well have taken pictures with their inbuilt smartphones. They are very suspicious creatures and they don't like us to know too much about them. I hope you weren't doing anything illegal or so while they flew over? They will probably know about our discussion here as well! After all they are always online!

I have put the smartphone on the bird, and here it is: (Based on the picture generated by HotPot.) The expargarate creature in full glory!

Cannot experiment on hotpot anymore today because I have passed my daily limit of free images.

Now we are getting somewhere: https://hotpot.ai/s/art-generator/8-LQ2eJG8sSaRjm4Q Only thing wrong with this one is that the smartphone has to be part of the mockingbird...

Thank you! I tried it myself but the program can't even draw a flying smartphone, let alone an expargarate creature that - as should be well known by now - is a hybrid creature consisting partly of a smartphone and partly of a mocking bird. But all I get are beautiful flying women with wings...