!nverse

Thoth = thought.

@Jeff, I shall PM you once today is out of the way.

Without going into the details right now...I wish to stop an invocation of a... spirit being (for want of better words). I am to be present at this summoning & will be the target of this manifestation. I know this because it's happened before at the same venue - how can I interfere with this & ruin the invocation? This will happen in plain sight in a public area, but this area is purposely charged for the summoning.

@Nungali, thanks for taking time to respond. Will PM you.

That's the "if all else fails, run away" scenario. I was hoping I might get other suggestions prior to this, though I have no qualms about doing so. It's part of my job so it's not so easy to avoid.

Once again, many thanks for the replies. @Jeff, I will probably avoid the situation, but there is a part of me that wishes to invite witnesses - I would like external affirmation for my own peace of mind. BTW, that's a very good description of the scenario, especially the conscious/subconscious aspect. I follow no path other than my own, though it is coloured by being raised in a Judeo-Christian culture. I admire Gnostic Christianity, but I'm a theoretic type only. I don't see the logic of participating in occult behaviour (including exoteric organisations) where the point of my inclusion & the desired result is unknown to me (my father taught me to question everything). That is blind faith - how ironic that occultists choosing to negate the concept of an external G_d, need & use blind faith as a vehicle into the occult! Just the other side of the same coin. I give my energy where I find it is deserving. These "people" just steal it from me. They have isolated me from having extended contact with anyone who isn't one of them. Actually, there is one person, Gurdjieffian in nature. I thought I might find him here, but not as yet. I gather he became somewhat of a hermit so is technologically impossible to reach. In real life he used the moniker "Love Child", I gather he hasn't joined this forum.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I can't get help with this anywhere else so your time & input is extremely valuable to me. Sorry for the cryptic riddling but for some things, one can only hint, right? @Jeff, yes. just to attack me. Just trying to protect myself - I want nothing from these people, never have had. But they *really* want me. It runs in the "family", but I'm not interested - this decision has really pissed them off. @Aetherous, yes, probably for the best to not appear. I can't tell the whole story because it would take a lifetime, and without smashing a massive aumelette. I may have to appear though, 'cos it's my job & I need every penny & all the work I can get. I play rock music at a semi-pro level. I'm the only band member that isn't in their club. This particular venue was a certain meeting place for them, now it's a pub. But the essence of the place is very much alive. I will try & get photos of the place soon enough so one can see the layout of the bar. Who on this forum is best equipped to discuss magickal ritual? If this forum is inappropriate, does anyone know of a better place to discuss this?

My most sincere apologies, I'm sure this topic exists somewhere, I just couldn't appease the Search gods enough for them to help me! Whether it is culturally acknowledged or not, most societies regard the heterosexual act, at the very least, as a form of natural magick necessary to expand the species. This, as I understand it, is the basis for White Magick. On the other hand, homosexuality in some cultures is described as Black Magick. Penetration & fluid transmission, mimicking the heterosexual sex act of copulation but without a foetus, no egg to fertilise. In Christianity, for example, it is considered blasphemous. Some believe that the act of buggery installs demons in the aura. What I do know though, is to be careful where you spill your seed. Stony ground, fertile ground... the allegory is clear. I'm heterosexual but celibate & have been since my twenties. I've always felt that sex is something really special, to be enjoyed with a loving partner. The true love shared by the couple can be "celebrated" by the sex act, and the spiritual rewards should be bountiful. If one takes it further in the occult sense, it is possible to time the act to be "cosmically charged" according to astrological cycles (I'm guessing really, I've not much knowledge of astrology). Personally I'd rather go without until I find said partner (30 years later I still haven't), rather than risk what I feel is a hugely significant, highly charged event with consequences we (used to) know little of. I don't miss it - I've other stimulation's to keep me occupied - music study is my lifelong partner. Alas also, we are living in a time when the West has been infiltrated by the scourge of feminism, we also have MGTOW & the battling sexes... I like to think I did my bit for population control by not adding to the numbers To think we left school & were encouraged to sow our seed, without any knowledge of just what it is we were engaged in. I understand the need for a rite of passage into adulthood but the times they are-a-changin'... I know people that screwed around - they exhibit some of the characteristics of their sexual partners & seem almost schizophrenic in a way. I wonder if this leads to a loss of self, and therefore self-realisation? There are an awful lot of "clones" in Western society... makes it easy for social engineers & think tanks to manage. What a travesty. Contemporary life however, suggests to the suggestible listener that "it's OK to screw around". Personally I think not, and that's saying nothing of STD's & crazy ex's. But I'll not judge anyone that has, in fact I'd like to know if anyone has had any really positive or negative spiritual experiences with the sexual act, heterosexual or otherwise?

I'm starting this thread because I wanted to crystallise all of the other posts regarding this subject. Imagine my surprise when I searched for "LSD" thinking only a few results would be returned... 22 pages more like! You tripheads, you! Please, please, please don't be too much of an acid bore. I'm looking for concise accounts of tangible recollections of "seeing through the veil". Naturally, I'll start I did a heroic dose of LSD whilst living in Cambridge (yeah, Syd Barrett Cambridge!). The trip was so intense that at one point my eyes stopped working & in my minds eye I was hurtling toward the centre of the universe, passing planets & galaxies in the wink of an eye until I came to a sudden stop. Then I passed out. This was the closest I'd ever felt to a recollectable OOBE. I was living in a homeless hostel just off Parker's Piece, at the time. Two days later I remember suddenly getting up out of the chair I was in, walking as if in a trance to my safe haven, the Church Of The Holy Sepulchre or Round Church, and before I could get past the inner door, I had a super-intense experience. I stopped dead in my tracks, looked up at the stained-glass roof of the outer foyer & felt a surge of energy from somewhere. Within 20 seconds or so, I felt as if all the negative energy that had built up inside me had been somehow pulled upward out of me. I walked on air for three days after that. I've reflected on this experience many times without too much success as to what it could mean. I likened it to how an exorcism must feel like, so maybe actual demons had been removed. I don't know for sure, all of that is conjecture. But what I do know 100% for sure, is that experience helped as a huge catalyst to my following a seeker's path with much more determination than before, and for that, Timothy Leary & the US Gubmint, I thank you.

One of his best works IMHO... it's like he (they?) got bored writing in super deep style & decided to just have done with it "Hell is empty, and all the devils are here!" It's a great little series if you like The Bard concise.

I LOL'ed when I read this... coming up on that heroic dose, my wingman & I both saw silver, glowing sap running through a tree, as if it were transparent. But yeah, absolutely no idea how you'd know for sure Will do, cheers. Enjoyed reading your account, brought back some fond recollections of some amazing/scary/WTF times

Found it, by Jove! As I scrolled to the bottom of the page, the words (in Times New Roman 36pt - prolly) said ""Persistence & Determination". 'Nuff said... So much to learn, so little time. Thank you once again, Nungali.

I need to dig deeper into Wilhelm Reich then, thanks for the tip off. Interesting stuff. I found a way to channel my libido through music, playing in a rock band can be very errr... stimulating. My Father used to say, "every man needs an outlet for his genius or he'll go mad"... I wonder if this is similar?

Thank you Miffymog. To whoever it may concern & has the power, please feel free to remove this thread.

I have recreationally taken LSD (about 7 trips) & psilocybin mushrooms (about 12 trips) over the course of my lifetime (I'm 51). It's not for everyone, you need the right environment plus the right state of mind, otherwise you can do some serious psychological damage. Also it's not the sort of drug that you can use habitually, it's just too intense for that. You blow the garage doors off, then walk away. My first trip? Age of eighteen, sixty mushrooms drank as a foul tea. I didn't even know what it was. We'd gone picking & I was given a tea to drink. I'd never smoked a cigarette, had pot or got drunk before. So it was quite an intense rite of passage for me. Still here. Still fairly stable If you ever consider doing this, make absolutely sure you have covered every angle of research. The dangers are there, but so are the rewards. Shamans know a thing or two... Edit: In response to Miffymog re: closing your mind, I think there's an element of truth in that. I tended to get quite introspective & focused on going within rather than without.

Le Diner Des Cons... an idiot gets invited to dinner for the amusement of the other guests. But there's a twist... another great message here, quite insightful as the French are so good at. I'm glad they preserve their cultural cinema, Hollywood can miss the subtleties so necessary for the connection to work.

"9" by Tim Burton. There's not much subtlety in this one (in fact it's riddled with occult references), but a great film nonetheless.

Loved every second of it, a great film. It has not-so-subtle allegories about the science & art of initiation coupled together with a surreality that places the viewer in an altered state, as if we ourselves are part of the initiation. Jodorowsky has a brilliant mind. You can read a review for it here... http://366weirdmovies.com/the-holy-mountain-1973/ BTW this is a wonderful web site. Find something that piques your interest, couple it with a good torrent app... sorted for months

Man, I just can't get enough of the funk... just puts a massive smile on my face & an injection of energy. This is my magic

Has anyone here experienced the Merkaba light vehicle?

Thanks for the replies, all. I'm encouraged & certainly wiser for it. @Nungali I'll check up on those links for sure, it's great to have some feedback in an area that I have little practical knowledge in (sex or magick). The etymology of "deva" I find very interesting, etymology can be very revealing where other methods may fall short. I've studied Wilhelm Reich a little, cloudbusting & orgone & all that, introduced to me by Hawkwind's "Orgone Accumulator". Oh, and many thanks for the fist-bump puppy, I really like that @liminal_luke Apologies if I gave you the wrong impression, I meant no harm or prejudice (I couldn't live with a bigoted version of myself), I was merely paraphrasing from the Christian standpoint. How ironic that I mention "the allegory is clear", only to cause confusion! The allegory, to me, says do something productive with your seed, whatever that may be. There is a fantastic woodcut (Gnostic?) that shows a naked man in poor health with a tree growing out of his groin - I took that to mean that too much (ahem) "self-enjoyment" can lead to a lifeless body, mind & spirit... I've been guilty of that, for sure, hence my interest in attempting to understand the subject. The reason I seem a little preoccupied with the Christian standpoint is that I was raised in a Judeo-Christian society & as a default, I've taken on the aspects of the culture of that society. On my (non-religious) Father's side, I was taught to question *everything*, especially myself. In studying that culture, I've found many degrees of separation from the original religious/spiritual doctrine that we were raised with, and it fascinates me how people have deviated from the cultural baseline, and what those experiences may be. On the other side of my family, well that's something kept from me until I choose to make it known, if that makes sense? You can PM me if you have an understanding that may help me.

ESP ISP PSI SPI 23... nope, not going there. @Nungali Numinate... I see what you did there.

Yessum.

!nverse here just saying hello for now, have lurked for a while, have plenty to discuss & really looking forward to what I can discover here.

Y'all know me so well already