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That is one of their fundamental tenets, of dependent origination, meaning you simply do not exist, which is an error. After all why bother teaching then or doing anything. How stupid can people be. But whether Buddhism represents Buddha, I think probably not, it is very corrupt like the mafia. In Tibet from what I understood monks entered a small cell where they would live out their days until they stopped reaching for the food tray, at which point the next monk would drag out the dead body and take the place. Such things are rife within Buddhism, such things are one mankind's greatest diseases.

That's all fine, with data in the head. But real learning involves the heart head and body, together. When you talk about comparing opinions and their relative merits, what this means is that you do not taste reality. Reality is not researching the best opinion. It comes from the direct kenning of reality through using the heart head and body together comprehend. It is not a game.

One reason is that from about 20,000 years ago the brain size of human beings has decreased. So you are born here ... but you might be shocked to find out that your species has degenerated. People no longer comprehend even simple things, and there are arguments over everything. Today, Wikipedia and other sources of information are being re-written day to day by people with agendas. This means that human beings, when they are agitated will twist turn falsify burn down and destroy all available knowledge. This should frighten you in the extreme. Similarly with various nuclear accidents that have happened, there is an industry in covering it up. Just as Monsanto and other groups cover up their own .... things. So, this is very bad. This means that human beings are extremely untrustworthy in their activities. Jesus said "forgive them for they know not what they do", and "they know not the day, neither do they know the hour". Okay, now for some information. A human being in order to comprehend reality ... must simultaneously use his intelligence, his feelings, and his body ... together these 3 dimensions of contact are able to triangulate true meaning. Knowing things through one channel is not enough to triangle truth. This is why many endless conversations sutras an arguments does not result in understanding. One must triangulate knowledge, just like you triangulate a lighthouse on a map, and this is done through experiencing reality through 3 separate channels : the body, the intelligence, the feelings. Today our societies are very mental and urbanised, and people do not grow normally. Living on a farm you have a simple contact in the 3 channels, feeding chickens seeing the sun rise and so on, and so farm people naturally feel reality. But urban people living in boxes looking at their phones do not. Urbanisation has made people very ill. There have been some periods in the past eras when people were in much better shape, for instance during Ancient Egypt. But once again there is an industry to tell us that we have progressed that we are better than the past, that we have a glorious future. But this is not true. Look around and you will see that many die cruelly and painfully and are not saved by anyone. Whole societies have been burnt to the ground. Even today right now terrible things are happening right now, if you could only see the child slaves prostitutes and murders. Right now. Many people like the Buddhists will teach you that you don't exist, somehow it makes us all feel better to not see. They shave their head like the army or on Wall Street, teach you to kill yourself. Anyway, this universe and this life is Real, pain is real, death is real, immortality is real. If you wish to be fully alive you can be and Existence will notice you and help you. If you can imagine many inhabited planets, some are just full of animals, others are just full of angels. Our planet is just at a very bad place on that line from animal to angel. It is nice to think about a huge oak tree standing in the middle of a large field. But many oak trees are growing in the swamp, in marshy cold and dark ground where the acorn fell. Still they try valiantly no matter how bad the weather is. One strange thing is that people believe in good and bad, rather than just good. Human beings have many strange ideas about everything. It is good to investigate things fully, yourself.

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The thing is to ensure that you yourself are fully switched on and competent and able. It's not about "knowing this is true". It is about ... having all your circuits switched on and being fully alive, because you yourself are engaging in real life without aid. Physically emotionally mentally. Any faculty you do not maintain will develop a pot belly. And that has to be done every day ! If you don't, if you rely on "facts" on the internet or whatever, then your capabilities are decaying. There are many intellectual types who have many facts in their skull .... but have no heart and wouldn't know how to start a fire. It is all unconscious masturbation of the mind. Stay sharp, stay alive; that's my point.

When people talk of fibre, I have no idea what they are talking about !!!! Low fat too ... strange obsession society has with things. Don't do microwaves myself. Anyway I do the porridge of champions, banana, pear, goji, hazlenuts, flax mix, Dr Udos Green magic powder, ACV, Cardamon or Nutmeg, with a topping of coconut kefir. I eat only 2 times a day so this is big.

That's something different. I am talking about the enlightened of the Dantien, or the lower centre of the soul.

Just started trying mastic gum, about 250mg of powder in water before meals. If it works it's a good long term solution, very benign substance. Milk kefir is strong and has too many things active within it, the coconut water kefir much better imo. Too much is not a good thing. Same with the vinegar, a little bit is okay. I have been through the mill trying extreme solutions, but ... ultimately only your body can be healthy, you need to help your body be health rather than replace how it works.

Okay, well I think the interesting things are how your concepts relate to human life, how we live, our function and purpose, and the spiritual purpose and spiritual journey.

I for one would like to understand what you say but you explain it extremely poorly, often with very short abstract ideas with really very bad explanation. It would be better if you used multiple real world examples and showed how your concepts work in each of those situations.

I don't see anything useful in your description, unless you are interested academically. If you are spiritual and wish for enlightenment then only thing you need to know is how you as a being is formed and how the chain of creation works within your own structure. From that you can comprehend how to move from deluded-mind to reality and work your way back to the source. Anything else is tourism. @welkin How do I know that the Dantien becomes intelligent ? That's the whole point, that's why people talk of the Dantien in taichi for instance. It is not "the chi" that becomes intelligent it is the Dantien which is a part of your soul, the part of your soul that is in the belly rather than in the chest or head. You become intelligent, in the belly. When the Dantien starts to sniff danger or opportunity that is intelligence, it is not mechanical. There certainly is right and wrong. That is the basis of intelligence. Getting run over in traffic is wrong, being healthy is right. Being intelligent is right, being foolish is wrong. If you think differently you have simply lobotomized yourself. When you say you have attained a certain degree of your energy .. what do you mean, that you have learned to walk ? Everybody can walk. Control is what the false self does as it clings on, and prevents what is real from being born.

Your diagram is very easy to understand : 0 > 1 > 2 > 5 > 10,000 0 : absence 1 : presence 2 : yin yang pair 5 : further details of the yin yang pair showing Wuxing phases 10,000 : all the rest of the shit in the universe arising from the 5 What does it show about qi ? I have no idea. What it shows is a general picture of the arising of the universe from the void, but it is a general picture and not one that is very useful for a human being. A human being if he wishes to return to 0 then he needs to understand how HE arises from the 0, meaning he needs to understand how 0>1>2>5 arises within his own personal structure. Which brings us to the Dantien because it is the Dantien that is the gate between 0 and 1, for a human being. And using this information and feeling the Dantien then you can personally ... do some spiritual work. For instance you can embody the Wuxing that flows out the Dantien. The result of this is that you come out of your insanity and actually fix yourself in a part of the river of Reality, and so you aren't lost in your endless diarrhea thoughts. That is a first step. The with the stability of Wuxing embodied, then you can return back through the Dantien first to 1, by awakening your Dantien, and then finally by returning through it to 0. There you are, that is the entire theory of Taoism right there. And you won't find better.

I have no idea what anybody is saying. GSMasterBlaster : well big up you doing lots of work, I hope you will do something useful with it, you maybe be big and strong and kill other unconscious monkeys, but in the end I am not sure it is worth a lot. 10 years, 30 years, 200 years .... intelligence is a shortcut to so many years of work btw. Having intelligent teachers. Oh yeah, the chi. Well ... the chi I am interested in is the vital force that rises into the body from the dantien. This is me, and I can work with this to cultivate myself. There are many other things in the universe but whether I would call them chi, maybe not. It is easy to say everything is energy, everything is consciousnes or everything is chi, but it really doesn't mean anything at all. There are many forms of energy, consciousness and what not. Only through careful study can you do something useful. For instance ... by breathing into the dantien you can awaken the dantien. This is done through "breathing into the dantien" meaning you consciously sense the chi in that area as you breathe, which activates the energetic body there, like a energetic presence of you that can be established in that area. This takes time. If done sensitively it can then "awaken", meaning that it is not just a energetic presence, but it starts to "think" or be "intelligent", it starts to respond to things and "know". One very important thing to know is that using the various energy techniques you can establish new balls of energy everywhere around your body, creating new energy structures of all sorts, wrapping, rotating, spiralling, and whatever. But this is not correct practice, it is not spiritual. Because your soul already has a structure that you can bring out into the light and discover what you are actually made of. For instance the heart is in the chest. Many people appear to be creating "false dantiens" in the belly with all sorts of multi coloured energy shapes and attaching it to Alpha Centauri and the Big Dipper and the Giant Turtle's Testicles. But a "false dantien" is not something you should really be doing, because you already have a Dantien, the real one. And those teachers who are teaching 500 levels of power-ups are most certainly those who have been very creative in the amount of false energy structures they create all over their body, which may give them siddhis and a lazer-shlong, but ... this is not spiritual. A lazer-shlong made of chi is not a spiritual thing, it is more a testament to your ingenuity and lack of contact with your soul.

This world is going to hell. Honestly, it's a disaster. Big up to all these people, I wish them well, but it already appears to me like a shell-shocked apocalyptic landscape. There are too many people on this planet, and the technology is destroying people in many ways, by removing from their hands the ability to work to live and for meaning, and this techno atheistic mental culture is just hurting people. Young people are so shell shocked they don't know up from down and just do whatever, they are being raised by zombies. I don't hear any or many sane voices any more, they are silent. Anyway, the thing is that we are a certain type of animal and I just feel that living in a traditional tribal group would be most appropriate and satisfying. I think it is important to work towards something, rather than just .... continue. Anyway I don't personally have a lot of answers, except for myself but ... jeez it's been traumatic. Our species is in a tremendous mess, it is really sad to live on a planet like this. I agree with what these people are saying, but I feel sad more than anything. And then I feel God. But I suppose I have travelled enough to have seen enough and to have done enough now. The way I feel today, there is nothing on this earth that is of interest. Apart from a good chicken sandwich. The gap between God and me must be closed down to zero I think.

Is it really possible to be happy and not live in a traditional community, with many people around, and working on difficult seasonal things that ... are meaningful. I am worried that technology is destroying the ability of people to work meaningfully, for their food. If you can't do that what will you do with your arms and legs ... they will rot? Living remotely is fine, it disconnects you from mad cities, but it is not really happy is it.

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Just to clarify ... you are saying that a planet for instance is a physical thing and is substance. But that qi is energy moving between poles ? And what about the qi that rises and falls with the breath ? Is that energy ? What about when the dantien awakens, that seems like it is substance as it is stable and solid ?

I keep seeing Lonesome Pai, when I catch sight of this thread !!!

Also am an engineer, engineers should stick together. Anyway, I have just started to add in some Yiquan Shili into my Zhan Zhuang and find it very naturally coming to me, I feel the movement of the silent body of the vital force, it's like a hidden dimension, and I can quite see some action-at-a-distance powers coming quite straightforwardly from it. Nobody nobody practices it. I do ZZ then Shili and some times I do Chen Silk Reeling, all as a warmup for LiuHeBaFa which is basically Shili in action, and I can easily relate every single LHBF movement to a Shili or vital force movement, from which I can decode the original intention behind the LHBF movements. It's all ... too easy. I have also begun a little bit of Scott Meredith's Xing Yi which teaches the direct energetic training of XingYi which seems to actually work, and is another hidden energy triggered through particular body alignment, and is good fun, but not really my interest. And also I have been doing some of a Dragon Bagua Form, both of which contribute to a more accurate energetic presentation of the LHBF form, which I am funnelling everything into, because it's cool.

Yes but ... agree totally. But ... perhaps mankind is simply not conscious enough and the best situation is an honest monarchy. I don't feel mankind can actually be free. Ready to be proven wrong, but in the ladder of consciousness evolution ... there is this shit bit where you are leaving the subconscious animals but not yet arrived at the conscious being, and it's all messed up and painful. Often people end up waking up in the middle of an operation, and being truly terrified, and sometimes getting destroyed. And ... maybe that's what we are. People keep trying to wake everyone up and screaming blue murder but it doesn't seem to work. There seems to be no improvement here, this is a bottleneck on the ladder where you have to really really want it to pass through. Either that or you play dead (unconscious) for 80 years and at least don't get destroyed (a popular choice). I was watching a Hitler documentary this morning ... well I can't see any answers in his ideas. But then again, all this opinionating is on the basis of materialism. Stepping outside and you are in a different dimension. The material dimension is not saveable. Aha, I think I have arrived at an answer.

But when you don't hurry, what happens ? Isn't there money worry ? I don't mind not hurrying personally, but then what ? Emptiness. We are busy doing, and dream of not doing, but is that really the answer ? Well what manner of not doing ? Perhaps we are simply looking to be simple kind honest straight, and live and work in that way as well. In other words just be normal and live in a normal world. Can we sit in the emptiness of meditation all day ? It's too one sided, there is a natural rhythm of things, a day and night, that feels good. There are natural processes, coming together, and then apart again, that feels right. Not hurrying, we can relax. But if we wish there is more, because in the cessation there is a lot. Life is not really normal at all, nor is it simple. It is deafening, and particular in its deafening. There are many things. It would be nice to explore, but there is always the money question hanging over our heads, or the health question, never a moments rest. And then the way our society advertises rest is also wrong. Rhythm, the correct rhythm, day and night, work and play, 40 minute sessions, eating at the right time, sleeping for the right time, the rhythm.

Also standing on the knees in church, this is akin to a Taoist practice of knee walking used to activate the kidneys. And I also thought that standing in the corner like a dunce might once have worked like Zhan Zhuang, although degenerated.

Christianity was once a serious path

Well, unfortunately things have been totally totally degenerated. In the Russian Orthodox church there was a change in the Sign of the Cross about 200 years ago which once again messed it up, but it is preserved in the "Old Believers". Basically two fingers, with second finger at half mast. (this was later corrupted to three fingers together) And it was originally said with the Jesus Prayer. ( before changed to be said with the vanity Trinity) In terms of direction I believe it goes forehead down to Dantien, then right shoulder then to the left shoulder ending once again at the right shoulder, but I am unsure. If it ended on the heart it would be only 1.5 horizontal and unbalanced, and also too much emotional heart energy. If it does not descend all the way to the Dantien then it is unbalanced, but as people have lost their groundedness they probably didn't go down so far. Eventually it will be reduced to just the forehead, i.e. just the ego, and will not even descend to the heart. Possibly they will cross themselves will dollar bills in another two hundred years. If you look at the three barred cross it shows I believe the inner structure of the soul. Head - Heart - Dantien. Showing the 3 centres of identity of the central channel, more or less. The reason the bottom bar is slanted (as if entering a hidden doorway), is that the Dantien is a hidden doorway. Of all this ... it is difficult to be certain.