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Bindu in the forehead is indeed the centre of the Soul, the structure the Source created. Actor analogy is a good one except that the Actor is Real, it is not something that will be discarded or to be looked down upon. The Actor is the point. The Source has created us as Actors/ Ambassadors/ Souls ... and this can become eternal if awakened. And continue to grow by pulling more and more of the Source into itself, meaning it deepens its relationship with itself.

Why do you say the Dantien is the moving centre ?

Today I did a huge amount of 5 animals all day, and then at the end did a long chakra awakening session. What is the difference between Chinese and Indian spirituality ? Well ... caveat being that people everything do many different things, so this is a generalisation. 5 animals is like merging with the spirit moving. Chakras however are internal presences, they are my column of identity within the body. Where is that in qigong ? It's absent isn't it. There may be talk of the MCO being similar, but it's not similar because the development of identity is missing. Or in Chinese the identity is regarded always as moving, the yin yang flow and so on. But in India the chakras are hard concrete eternal identities that can be awakened, it is quite abstract and not much connected to external reality. What is qigong about ? Feeling energy flowing ? ... what for ? Well maybe it is a love affair with the dantien energy supply, that dimension of life, and merging that with the manifestation of energy in nature. India just wants to find Identity now, stuff everything else. ... just some ideas ...

In the presence of a teacher or tradition you feel the higher state of consciousness and learn to maintain it when not with the teacher. This is done in manifold ways for instance having higher intention, mantra, living in an ashram and so on. The process can be described accurately in a technical fashion but it requires a great deal of learning. For instance the Halo at the back of the head is a representation of the awakening of Consciousness that occurs at the back of the head. That is the location of that centre. The heart can be awakened in the centre of the chest, because that is the location of that centre. How does it work exactly ? Well it's not a short story and takes a good much time. With Consciousness, with eyes open and relaxed you rest backwards until you are seeing from the back of the head. Then you redirect your internal-feeling-attention to the centre of that seeing, and you merge with it. This is a special attention and not the usual external laser attention. This inner feeling attention feels identity. That begins the lighting of the centre. Carry on like that for months or years and it becomes big. You feel yourself residing there and it expands beyond the frontier of the physical head. It is totally still and peaceful inside, which is what you are. And it is directly connected to the Universal Consciousness behind ... so you feel behind your head it opens into infinity. This process is actually pulling in the Universal Consciousness into this centre at the back of the head, so it fills that centre with Consciousness which is eternal. I have learnt this over 7 years with hundreds of hours of direct instruction, so this is just a quick note !!!! There are other important centres in the forehead. And of course the heart, dantien, solar plexus. All of which require their own work, but the Halo centre (Consciousness) is very important for technical reasons. What is it that lives beyond death ? Each seed that is cast by existence is an ambassador of existence with a unique journey. And this seed can awaken or not awaken. These seeds are the way that existence explores itself. When a human says "hello", who is it that speaks ? Well it is the seed, and the seed only lasts forever if it becomes self-realised otherwise it's gone. Of course somewhere back there you can say that existence is always the one speaking, sort of. But the seed does not really know that, so it's an untrue statement for an ordinary person to say that. Nevertheless it is true from the perspective of god-source-existence. An awakened human can feel his own individual self (the seed that grew up) and also he can feel back along the tree to the source, But he is not really the source, he is a structure the source created in order to explore itself. Anyway ... it's all a bit of a mystery, even for existence, existence is creating seeds because it also doesn't really know why it is here. It's all pretty crazy. Anyway if you sit in meditation for long enough awakening often happens on its own.

Here's my answer about consciousness and emptiness. Consciousness means you are present, emptiness means you are absent ... how to get from presence to emptiness ? Surrender. In fact the path is about creating something that is then surrendered. As for Gurdjieff ... well he had a concept of working from essence. All this alchemy stuff, for all its ? usefulness, is working from personality which is in its nature a bit of a mess. Once you work from essence (from the identity) then the path is very different and simpler. Having said that I do a lot of personality-subonscious-animal work because it is very disturbed and non-communicado. The Indian approach is too internal-meditative for me, and doesn't include much outside which is fine .... good for last phase of life perhaps. Or perhaps not.

Yes because these men have only mastered themselves, but not outside, and connection with the macrocosm. Hence they are attacked by others outside them. There may also be a reference to pre-post natal chi (Embryonic Age). The man makes a pretence of cultivating the arts of the Embryonic Age. He knows the first thing, but not the sequel to it. He regulates what is internal in himself, but not what is external to himself. If he had intelligence enough to be entirely unsophisticated, and by doing nothing to seek to return to the normal simplicity, embodying (the instincts of) his nature, and keeping his spirit (as it were) in his arms, so enjoying himself in the common ways, you might then indeed be afraid of him! But what should you and I find in the arts of the embryonic time, worth our knowing?' Waves carried by the wind is not complete because it's only 2 elements, and if you are carried you are not participating so it is partial. The goal is to be fully unified with existence which includes acting-in-union, and inner-outer ... being carried or retiring is a common fantasy of human beings who wish to take a break. But that is not Tao. imo

That lady at the bottom is what a healthy human being looks like.

I appreciate the length of study you have gone to in order to provide an answer to this question, and just had a look at your elixirfield page which is very long. My question to you is : has it worked in you. Or are these things a working assumption ? That page is very very very long. Even if this alchemical path is true, surely there is a better way. Following Ramana or somebody simple like that, your chances of success must be 1000% more than alchemy. I also note that Gurdjieff who was a master of alchemy ... he said that the Eastern enlightenment was correct and that after the Fourth Way the next best was yoga (Indian tradition) and that it took about 10 years of hard work. He also said that the end result of the path is "I" or to have your own "Real I" ... and not magic powers. Which once again would indicate that a simple path of Eastern meditation is more likely to get there. What do you think ? And where have you got to ?

What happens to who ? Why do people follow Buddha ? Isn't it obvious he is different ? Just listen to his journey, struggle effort courage abandon. And what journey did you make ?

Yes indeed HE (individual) became established in Consciousness, which is prior. HE (individual) created a Comm----------union meaning a bridge of the personal and universal. And that is why HE will live beyond death. This is all too clear for those who's eyes are not clouded by fear. Just look at the acorns. 1 in 10,000 grows into trees. As above so below. It's all too obvious. J Krishnamurti said "there it is again". Meaning it wasn't there now it is. Meaning his state is changing. Meaning he has a state. Meaning HE is an individual. Ramana said his state matured and then dropped into the heart in the chest. Meaning something individual changed. All too obvious. All too obvious. Only if you love God, will a communion be made, like Jesus said. Meaning love of Real Self, that is already available right now. But not already actualized. And actualization is a journey that is free, but also not free. It has no price, but it is intense passion and love for truth that will deliver you. Have no fear, it is waiting for you. Within. There is work to be done, understood, love, devoted and so on. Non-dual, Dual ? All big words for people who have no intention to follow any path. They wish to be told that doing nothing is okay. Well it is okay ... for those it is okay for. But is there fire in your heart ? Quite strange to see how many people on the planet, so shocked by the pain of this layer of life, half-way between animal and angel, in so much pain .... they deny their own existence. It's easier that way. Emptiness, meaninglessness, atheism ... materialism .... all the same root. The shock of being awake ... and then refusing it. Making any excuse not to live. As an individual.

Ramana sat in meditation for 14 years before something happened to him. It didn't happen to anyone else, not you nor me, it happened to him. So it must be clear that something individual changes. And that a lot of work is required to make it change. It was the same for all the great sages.

Baking Cupcakes Another analogy is if you get a large mixing bowl and put eggs and flower etc... in there and mix it all together. And you poor it into 6 cupcake cases. Well this is spirit being poored into bodies. Normally the bodies do not crystalise (cook) the spirit ... it's like they didn't go in the oven. Then on physical death the spirit is emptied back into the mixing bowl. And stirred around and then poored into some other cupcake cases. And this is what normally happens. And the spirit flows into many bodies one after another. But in some cases the cupcake does go in the oven and crystalises into a soul. Then when it is poored back in the mixing bowl it stays in one piece. And then it is poored into a new body. And it remains intact. The soul survives death. So those who didn't get cooked don't worry. Those who did get cooked don't worry. Those trying to get cooked worry a lot. Anthills An ant in an anthill ... you can't really tell him apart from the other ants, they are all the same. You could say they are part of the collective-ant-consciousness which churns out loads of them. And they all sort of do the same thing. So there's not really anybody there to reincarnate. When that ant dies and closes his eyes, what is closing his eyes ? It's not an individual ant it's just a body filled with collective-ant-consciousness. That ant was never individual. Same with humongs. They might decorate themselves with different coloured clothes etc... and standing in a forest a single humong might look very colourful, but when you see a flock of them ... you think, hey wait a second, you all look the same. Unless that humong ... has done something a bit magic with him, and gone it alone. Own clothes, own feelings, own thoughts. Then he snaps off the collective-humong-consciousness and becomes an individual. Then when you look in his eyes, it's no longer collective-humong-consciousness talking, it is him. He has his own ideas, that are his, that he made through his life experiences. It's not a small job.

Yoga ... whether it is good or bad largely depends on the hotness factor of the chicks in the class, doesn't it ?

Well .... I think this is really not very good. And funnily enough TM's sort Christiany kissy kissy approach has failed so badly (madly) that I think it will really drive people away from that kind of Christian interpretation. But just reading today ... can Article 50 be unilaterally withdrawn ? Maybe, maybe not. So there could be trouble ahead if the ECJ says no. Maybe they will say yes. I honestly can't see unless the Commons are insane to proceed with burning 40 Bn sterling ... and a reverse course may not be possible. Having an instant WTO Brexit is a possibility, but it will be wobbly. What is coming up ... is the payment of £ 40,000,000,000 ... for nothing. And I think the papers are going to notice the upcoming payment and I think the British people are not going to be happy, because mad they might be but they won't like that at all. All that money with no future relationship ? I can't see it happening. But who knows. Anyway humans are completely mad.

"The withdrawal agreement is legally-binding - the political declaration is not." This is beyond a joke. PM May has spent all these months apologizing to the tune of 40 thousand million pounds and we are supposed to pay this in the Divorce agreement. And the EU says .... don't worry after that it's gonna be all roses. F********* you is the answer.

I would be interested to hear examples with your observations of them. I am sure there will be people who disagree, others who agree, but it would be interesting and get to the heart of the matter.

Yes, I have actually been doing a Male/ Female balance meditation, several times a day, in the last few days. Very interesting, often my inner female is griefstruck and screaming, and the male is healthy but a bit distant and dreamy. Things are changing and it feels good. I take great care of the inner female, and speak to the inner male to be more grounded. And so if we are weilding the male / female in our lives .... learnt whichever way ... for instance in TaiChi .... then we can cut through and enter the channel of yuan that runs through every situation ? http://kaytaylorparker.com/product/inner-male-and-female-balance-meditation/

The more important thing is ... can I tell that I am learning something ? How should one read the TTC ? This way or that way ? Well ... can't you just read it and notice if you learnt anything ? Why ask these questions ? Is your ability to learn impaired ? Read it literally ? Anything actually learnt ? Read it politically ? Anything actually learnt ? etc... Behind all this is the mind's endless conversations, that signify very little. Of course the mind (meaning the false ego self) pretends to be interested, especially in big and dramatic subjects, but it is not interested. It only wants to keep talking.

Yeah, well I have learnt most of these things from Gurdjieff / Fourth Way, so they describe it as Affirming / Denying / Reconciling energies, or the Law of Three. So for instance once upon a time I was cycling home with high winds in my face, it was pretty gruelling and I felt a little crushed, but then I attempted to reconcile it by Affirming (facing / courage / meeting .... ) the wind (Denying) and after a few minutes something just clicked and I was filled a beautiful energy in the zone (Reconciling). I have also tried this direct transmutation with negative energy reconciling to positive, and again there is the resultant Reconciling Yuan. So with the cycling it great to be able to put yourself into the zone without fear .... a tunnel of meeting life and getting the reward Yuan. But the entire structure of the universe seems to follow these rules, for instance marriage. Digestion of food (not my expertise but read Ouspensky). And spiritual journey. And importantly what happens to the Yuan, or how can I benefit from the Yuan ... where does the energy go ? How can I make it go into me ? Well I suppose one answer is that more of you has to be doing the Law of Three, not just with food, not just with relationships, not just with cycling against the wind .... but everything ... it becomes your nature. You learn to feel the way through like "Cutting Up an Ox" if you have read that.

One problem with this text is that many unconscious cowardly nobodies already follow these ideas and it leads to nothing, because they make no effort they do nothing just flock like sheep. In fact it is by stepping outside to get new information and then stepping back to integrate that information with the existing .... that something new is created. The ideas are correct in the sense that you should not appear to society to be that much different from them ... you should connect with society as it is, if you bring something new it can be a new leaf on the existing tree ... but a leaf cannot be so far away from the tree where there are no branches .... in midair ... then it cannot be connected and people will not appreciate you, and may even attack you. This is a general principle, for instance with migration or with mixing paints, that you can bring a drop of something new and make beautiful new colours .... but too much and you destroy the existing. Also this text does not describe the growth of intelligence in the actor who is understanding society and making decisions. Another factor is that texts and systems that survive often survive because the power structure likes them. For instance texts that teach the populace to be a sheep are appreciated by the powerful and encouraged. And it is possible that you can take a "sly" way were you develop yourself to very great extents ... whilst appearing outwardly to be ordinary. There are many people in society doing and needing many different things, there can be a place for you if you can find it.

Yoga (meaning asana) : well it can be quite tough and work the body out, and also it's popular so you feel you are doing something that is judged good according to society which is important for your self-image. Buddhists : hmm .... well many of them are sort of braindead-awareness-robots and have stupid smiles stuck to their head, they are trying to suicide themselves in new ways Qigong / Taichi : well it's clearly degenerated with all the softy kissy kissy things that are happening, yoga is much tougher and with yoga you have to change your clothes afterwards ... qigong, well I can do in my normal clothes with not much bother .... but yoga is also quite braindead, you don't really feeling any energy or even your body the way it is done mostly. Yoga / Buddhism are two popular ways of inebriating yourself, and maybe inebriation is a good solution for a premature ape soul living in a bad planet ... maybe it's an ideal approach, like putting yourself into stasis for this lifetime. It's easy to have a nice aura when you have ejected all the material you are supposed to work on, and sit there with a baby face smiling stupidly when the entire Tibetan culture was destroyed on your watch, Mr Dalai Lama. Ok, compassion now ..... yes we all have to learn and that was an expensive lesson .... so learn !!! Also a question of intelligence .... dumb people are very happy with brainless solutions. For instance in Kundalini Yoga 3HO you are taught to deal with trauma using inebriation breathing then saying Satnam Satnam Satnam Satnam Satnam Satnam Satnam Vaheguru. Which is basically inebriating yourself then calling on God to fix everything. Whereas if you do qigong you are trying to resolve the energetic basis for trauma, with bioenergetics you are trying to subconsciously resolve the trauma, in both cases making contributions to the process with intelligence. However another solution is to say .... we are all so goddam stupid here that I shall give up trying to understand anything and .... SatnamSatnamSatnamSatnamSatnamSatnamSatnam Vageguru. Maybe there is intelligence in understanding your stupidity. Anyway, find your own people because God makes many kind of people. It is very good to look at how badly screwed up the bodies of teachers are, their own disastrous life stories including car crashes and being beaten up, and whether their hair is dark. For instance there is a Dayan teacher called Hui Liu who I notice is happy has dark hair wears beautiful clothes and makes very fine artwork in the Chinese style. These are excellent reasons to follow her. Some Western Dayan students have very complicated technical guidance for Dayan ... but their hair is white and no artwork. So .... But then again I am not sure if Hui Liu's centre is making enough money to survive long-term. But then again ... if you work hard and make real courageous efforts ... that could make your hair white prematurely !!! So .... choose what is right for you. Peace - people talk about peace a lot. What for ? People don't want peace, they want sex and travel to palm lined beaches. They want love and to be loved. They want excitement. Who wants peace ? But ... it is also true peace is nice. Anyway it's good to get enlightened.

A possibility ? Actually just checked the reviews it's 90% theory, 10% poorly demonstrated exercises, not so much ZZ.

Why, does it save you from making a decision ?

When Judy Tzuke sings "I need you tonight", she is singing about transmutation and a very fine level of transmutation available to human creatures.