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Exactly! We told you numerous times that Jim wasn't taught everything. So you confirm that WMP is different. You insist on your lies. I told you the above in black are facts. You can't contest them. Fir example you charge for the techniques and that is why you are reluctant to publish them openly for free. You don't fucking care who gets hurt, all you care is that you keep the coal for yourself. Guess what? It will never turn into a diamond because you will never find the way. We also told you already that JC isn't Taoist and his system is more or less the same with another native Indonesian system. No taoist or chinese system is similar to mopai. So basically all that you have mentioned above is selfdelusion and lies.

Jim is the reason this nutjob among many others has access to the teachings. Who told you that we take WMP seriously? WesternMoPai=/=MoPai

then later this happens Do these things sound familiar? Check the whole dialogue and tell my that the guy is not talking to a WMP clone!

Actually this is what makes them a scamgong. A serious teacher of a martial/health/spiritual system never makes students look up to the headmaster but to his own abilities and then use the master as an example of how the abilities can go beyond. If someone presents you with as system with the selling point being what one exemplary individual does after 50 years of practice and no one else, what would the first thing to come into your mind be?

This is spam. You keep changing the subject and not responding to my question. So fact 1 stands in the absence of an answer. Fact 1 :You are not entitled to teach nor an equivalent of a professor. This is not proof of any kind. Like a recorded lecture on particle physics doesn't hand out degrees. Besides, John doesn't speak english and you don't speak Javanese. So fact 2 stands too Fact 2 :There is zero proof that the tests were used for whatever level. You only have the word of JC that they were actual tests. No proof at all Yoy haven't provided proof for fact 3 too Fact 3: you have no proof that Jim was allowed to teach all the levels he was presumed to have passed. So it stands! Fact 4: I only need to point you at my country to Debunk that notion. If there is even one place in the earth that Video isn't proof then it is not an indisputable fact and you can't use it in an argument. Even in the US it is easy to contest video evidence in court, in the absence of testimony or material evidence. Dictionaries aren't proof. Fact 4 stands. Notice that i never said they were points. They are facts! They aren't disputable in the first place so you are wasting time trying to refute facts! You do. Even if you did not, you are still wasting people 's time and putting them in danger. So Fact 5: Western Mo Pai is 100% pure scamgong. ????? That ship has sailed long ago moron when Jim decided to teach and someone leaked the exercises in whatever form on the internet. The most responsible thing to protect people is to publish the material online with all the precautions. Like Jim did with breathing incorrectly and mixing MCO with mopai? Pure fiction. If it were like that Chinese schools would know about MoPai. They have never heard of it because it is not chinese. What "John Chang" practices is neither Chinese nor Taoist.

@Earl Grey what do you expect really from a guy who used an inductive logic meta-analysis to support a deductive logic conclusion about prostate cancer? The man can't understand basic logic argumentation despite being notified repeatedly on the faults in his reasoning. That should also be a red flag to anyone foolish enough to still search for mopai. To whoever is interested: Go to Indonesia to Chang if you are Asian or to other native teachers there. Don't waste your time with the western crippled version practiced by a sect of morons!

I forgot about that. It has been a while. Anyway in that case the "retrodactyl" would be the "anapaest"

They insist they do neikong but when asked which exercise of theirs transmutes the three treasures, they can't answer! WMP=Scamgong!

Again nobody will even make the assumption that you are a teacher by the above. I also asked you "I can do that too for a number of subjects, am i teacher? yes or no?" I demand an answer. You need a diploma to teach though. You are twisting the facts again. Fact 1 :You are not entitled to teach nor an equivalent of a professor. Fact 2 :There is zero proof that the tests were used for whatever level. You only have the word of JC that they were actual tests. No proof at all. Also each student progresses differently so the tests that each one requires are different. Again you have no way of knowing that and no proof at all which is ironic coming from a group so obsessed with proof. No he wasn't. Fact 3: you have no proof that Jim was allowed to teach all the levels he was presumed to have passed. Fact 4: I only need to point you at my country to Debunk that notion. If there is even one place in the earth that Video isn't proof then it is not an indisputable fact and you can't use it in an argument. Even in the US it is easy to contest video evidence in court, in the absence of testimony or material evidence. Because there is no way to know where the video was taken from. Plus you need actual proof of the crime like possession of stolen goods or the murder weapon or in the case of an accident, the crash site in pristine state. Otherwise forensics would go out of business, all you would need was cameras. That isn't the case because you heard this before :Video footage isn't proof! Get over the fact! Fact 5: Western Mo Pai is 100% pure scamgong. You have no tangible proof that what you have in your hands produces results and you actually charge for it! Prove us wrong, publish all the levels somewhere for every interested idiot to see. And don't get us started on Karma because 1) you still have numerous idiots flocking your way to be harmed by bad practices and 2) you have already accrued terrible karma from teaching while not allowed to!

Actually it is one specific thing, finger, but it could refer to anything that has the shape of a finger. Like "Fingers" chocolate or sweets.

There is no such thing. It means "backward finger" whatever that is. There is no species named like that.

Irrelevant. That doesn't make you a professor or a certified teacher. I can tutor people too in completely irrelevant subjects to my major. Am I a teacher or a professor? So again all your arguments are invalid. Video isn't evidence. There is no evidence that can exclude MoPai damage to Jim. You don't have the whole first levels. Jim had no authority to teach and wasn't a teacher in the first place. Western MoPai is scam.

So no teaching then! I was dead certain that you did not teach in class. So Jim did the same. Without being certified by finishing his "degree" and without permission from the "professor" he started teaching things he had ZERO understanding of.

Whatever it is worth, you really grabbed the bull by it's horns!

@Walker what did you expect from a guy who keeps insisting that he taught people how to pass math exams in college without clarifying what the hell he means by that. He is not a professor and i bet that he never taught in a college classroom so he is full of farts and shit. He is just messing with us. He knows that WMP is not legit and not part of the whatever lineage (because as wu ming jen said before, it is not a school at all because MP is not chinese or taoist) the WMP falsely think that they represent.

It could be anything that causes cancer. Military personel are exposed to radiation by depleted uranium shells too.

You forgot the copper wire up his ass! This is critical for grounding!

Given your utter lack of reading comprehension and the repeating patterns of non thought, i sincerely doubt that. You have no proof. Is there a video recording?

That is not what you are debating moron. You can't teach because you aren't certified and you can't certify others. And tutoring people in one subject in math doesn't make you anything. Especially a professor.

So now that makes you a math professor? Can you hand out certifications? Nope!

Again faulty idiotic logic. You did not give degrees did you? Nor certifications. Jim did that. He played professor while being a student. Not cool.

By this faulty and idiotic logic if one aces 2 biochemistry lessons in college then he is the equivalent of of a biochemistry professor with 20 years of experience in the field!

If you say so....

Shares from sales of the WMP system!

The man who produced the documentary "The ring of fire" says that John has cancer. Believe what you want just steer clear of MoPai. The levels are made up. A well known teacher in an established chinese lineage, when asked about some aspects of MoPai commented that he has never heard of it!