Zork

The answer makes perfect sense but you are trying desperately to refute it because it doesn't fit your delusions. As i said if you don't already have orbit you are not practicing neidan in the first place. You have been added to my blocked list. End of story. Your mind sees, not the eyes. You saw what you wanted to see. I do not know the reason. Start from there.

Because you don't use conventional housing wires to transfer high voltage electricity.....

No need to. And? I keep looking at my posts which I usually double check to prevent them from being confrontational and i see nothing. How do you know when and if I am being cynical, sarcastic or bitter to deserve that? Also if it isn't obvious I don't practice neidan (getting an orbit is a higher priority) and I really don't understand where this downplaying of others comes from. Yes unfortunately there are people that claim to practice neidan and have no orbit in this forum. Do you find it ethical that i stfu about it? I don't.

That is somewhat close to my own opinion on the subject. It depends on what or how you perceive things as an individual. I saw the switch of the focus from the IA, which is the subject of this thread to my knowledge or ability to discern, as an attack because it derails the subject and becomes personal. Even if i were the greatest fool on earth my question is still valid and it deserves a relevant answer.

You can't. The frauds don't have orbit and some people can sense it. Having it on the other hand doesn't imply ability in neidan. What is the point of this subtle attack? Nobody has all the answers.

There are those that talk the path and those who walk the path. As the zen saying goes "the winner (of the archery tournament) will be the one who aims at the target not at the prize"

It is also the most restrictive. The more power you get the less you are able to use it due to karmic constraints. So yes it is the most desirable (by who?) but people have no idea what the are getting into when choosing this path. Imho only the misinformed would choose this path. The requirements of character and mental plus spiritual qualities are so high that people are mostly predestined whether they will follow this path or not.

Probably the confusion derives from the way IA is served to laymen. Most people think about immortality and imagine... whatever the *bleep* they imagine. I still don't get answers on why there is so much emphasis on this aspect of the internal arts. There is a whole mountain to climb to get there in the first place.

All right but i cannot fail but see a paradox by power seekers who do not understand what exactly they are in for. We are talking about a non perceivable end which is embedded in myth and misconceptions.

Sure. I agree but power always comes at a cost. Who among the wannabe immortals is willing to pay it? Furthermore it seems that people who seek power like that are the least suitable to receive it.

This is your opinion based on your THEORITICAL knowledge of internal alchemy? Should i care since you have no idea about it's application?

I agree but this begs the question: Are the "potential" immortals aware of what they are pursuing? Or are they blinded by a pursuit of power in any form?

IA isn't written in books and the vast majority have no idea what they are talking about. Also if i really wanted to know about IA i would ask a fellow member in the dao bums. I know he will answer if i ever ask and he knows i never will.

So you can buy inner alchemy online? Nice to know that...... On second thought.... No just no. It isn't available online. End of story.

I never said anything like that. You are reffering to the OP not me.

No. Even if such information were to be available, the one releasing it would be a completely irresponsible person.

@welkin You are overthinking it. Qigong is a tool for a purpose. Dolic describes qigong systems as programs for your computer. You download programs according to your individual needs. The same goes for qigong. Some are for health, others cultivate chi, others have martial purposes etc.

The "me/us against them" mentality has been cultivated extensively in many parts of the world for thousands of years. It does wonders in social engineering. The presence of the internet only revealed them.

Try to avoid learning from online instructions or experimenting. Chang has mentioned for example that mo pai is not compatible with microcosmic orbit meditation which itself is not compatible with other systems. Visualising energy can lead to qi deviations if you are not careful. This is further complicated by the fact that you don't know what to heed. There is a reason why we suggest you find a comprehensive system. I won't suggest any system, there are many legit systems out there to try. Find one that suits you. Earl gray is a little harsh on his response but not needlessly so. He is trying to prevent you from damaging your energy structure beyond repair. PS. Don't rush. It is not a sprint, it is a marathon. Be patient, dilligent and true. Then you will reap the fruit.

Exactly. Because noone is!

Why does this thing where happen here? Why is there this constant devaluation of the things that Buddha said? Can you define reality? If you try to you will understand that the perception of what is real is highly subjective. How do you know i am real and not a figment of your imagination? Have you seen me? Do you know my name or where i live? Your eye neurons transfer information to your brain which interprets it as a being called Zork somewhere on this earth. Am i really real?

You mean exosomatosis? The links i have found for Magus of Strovolos say exosomatosis unless i get something wrong. What he talks about, i have found to be mostly true. Whether thoughtforms are autonomous entities or not, i don't know but it is not important IMHO. If you are damaging someone in some way does it matter if the cause is an entity or a thought? Or rather it is more important to avoid the thought altogether to prevent the damage in the first place? Control of thoughts is important in magical cultivation in general. There is an actual step of magical development concerning "thought self-censorship" (not the actual term he uses) in Franz Bardon's initiation to the hermetics.

Judging from what you already said in your introductory thread, you are using your own lifeforce to heal because you don't have your LDT activated to store or accumulate energy. If you want to keep experimenting no one is going to stop you, it is your funeral. What he means is that you can be targeted by astral parasites and you will transfer them to the person you are trying to heal. The aura changes (for a few hours to a day) along with the energy signature of the body when using alcohol or taking medication or drugs. Some practices are not even compatible with sex for males because they result in Jing leakage. I am not an expert but if i were to be considered cautious i would drop either cannabis or energy work if i were you. You can't do both. If you are serious about pursuing this path then drop cannabis and any other abuse and find a system. Experimentation will leave you on your own. Look at the following thread for qi deviations. You could be experiencing some of these effects already and they are not a sign of progress.

If it is not clear then why aren't you asking what it is, instead of making assumptions? Because you don't know either way.:) And perpetuating something that is both illegal and wrong in a purely capitalist point of view like subsidies, is everything i would expect from you, someone who has no orbit at all, no skill, no neidan and swims on delusions....