kyoji

so you think one can healthily cum 8 times a day and still have time/energy/vitality to do hardphysical labour (which young men should be more than capable of ) , and practice internal alchemy? who has the unresolved issues here exactly? In moderation it is all fine and dandy at certain points in practice, depending on owns goals and orientation towards cultivation, and i quite clearly never said otherwise if you would've read my first response with any discernment.

you want to quote the bible after making jokes like that? perverse and sick.

how telling that most of the people of this blog gets more upset about troon ideology than they do tasteless jokes about holy people suffering beyond our capability to understand. sign of the times. Kali Yug is ramping up.

It is quite literally the number 1 barrier, especially for men it seems. "1. LustSexuality is the force behind the procreation of all life. It is also the first great barrier of one who seeks to awaken to the Dao, achieve immortality and enlightenment by following the abnormal methods of the celestial ones. People are born from this path of desire and they die of it. This desire is an inherent nature which moves within us and creates a loss. This movement and the loss causes is a calamity and destitution of this world. Even in an unknowing and unfeeling state it, arises even in a state of thoughtlessness and carelessness it is there. People see desire, passion grows, entering this situation, the spirit moves eagerly and loss occurs. This creates many types of karma. If those who cultivate the Dao rid themselves of the deepest root of this desire, naturally the spiritual seedling will begin to grow. If they encounter this desire and aren’t immediately coerced, they may act without lust, Remarkably, they won’t create desire, preventing lust from entering inside themselves. Those unable or unwilling to eliminate this desire or those unable or unwilling to go this route have many methods available to them. Their ability is deepened through long practice. Eventually the time of elimination of desire will come, when the deepest root is removed, when the physical body is strong, the spiritual body is easily cultivated, all other barriers are easily overcome, whether one has renounced their family to join the monkhood, or not, their wish to become enlightened is unhindered. Although human relations continue into future generations, if the desire of lust is tasteless one’s energy and essence will be ample and flourish, extending life and preventing disease. One must know that human affection is needed for the beginning of cultivation; however, later it clouds they glory of the Way and those who use those affections will not know the Way. Life after life unending is called the great Dao, the cause of the seed to Immortality." this is a daoist cultivation blog. can we keep this in mind when we start appealing to freudian or reichian ideas on sexuality before the wisdom of actual cultivators of the dao?

so you'll appeal to your supposed authority and leave it there?

realize licensed acupuncturist or not, you are not a man and haven't a clue about how much depletion a man experiences after ejaculating too often, shame or no shame (or especially @ the rate in which the OP is saying he does.) even when one has too much healthy sex with their loving partner, it is obviously detrimental in excess. I can hardly practice with all of the prolactin in my muscles/legs after a few too many rounds of "bedroom arts" woman lose their jing monthly, we lose ours largely through our orgasms, not exclusively but it takes a large tax. we lose much more preheaven jing upon having an orgasm than women do. It is really that simple. Nobody should be masturbating 8 times a day, and the fact that you are closer to thinking that is a healthy habit minus the guilt, than you are to giving sound advice like others have chosen to do here. I think you mean well, but this attitude is terribly misguided. If this is a blog supposedly about Daoist cultivation, how on earth is the advice we are giving? Sexual excess is terrible for ones physical longevity, mental health and spiritual development. This is day one stuff. Could you imagine what the responses would be if somebody started " mansplaining " to you about what the experience of menstruation is like?

So this site is simply a safe space for people to air out whatever they want, with little to no talk of cultivation anymore… got it. earl was actually given some sound advice by blue. we are dealing with grown adults who prefer being pandered to vs given methods that would help said condition. This is the same dynamic as those who are “ mental health advocates” all these types actually promote is the normalization of disease and degeneracy… but once a friend comes to the table with actionable steps and methods to ameliorate mental condition, the wounded bird identity only wants to remain victimized but be heard. this is completely out of line with the Promethean spirit of the arts that were once discussed here.

Alt facts... Good lord this place has gone down hill.

I saw this quote from Camus today (check picture at bottom of this post) , and I started thinking about it for a while, and I started conceptualizing Kamma itself as Punisher / Teacher. I am pretty sure it veers away from Camus’ point, but I’m gonna pour out some of my inner ramblings and thoughts here anyways in hopes it stirs something up In some of you lovely people here at TDB. Soooooo... The mind that we have to live with is in some sense, the fruit of all of our actions. This is why we are ourselves are our own punishers / punishment. No outsourcing to a god OR fellow man is even required as far as I am concerned. It is much easier albeit, to shake our fists at the sky pretending the we had no part to play in the dramas of our lives , or in the state of mind we live with, preferring to instead blame it on randomness, fate, god.... the list goes on.. Why a good portion of the religious feel the need to point fingers on moral subjects is beyond me... and why people on the other side would point back at the religious, and fight tooth and nail over trivialities surrounding morality seems completely absurd to me, and like a colossal waste of time / life. Let Kamma (Karma) do it’s thing! people will be judged accordingly by the results of their actions alone, isn’t it so ? This sort of “justice“ let’s say might not be as swift as you feel a facebook comment section battle, or some kind of heated altercation is, but I think it is in some sense a much sweeter, and truer form of Justice than the form you think you serve from having opinions/convictions, that you spew venomously at your opposition. This world is not at all random, yet our feeble human minds inability to order it makes it feel very chaotic at times. I think we have all experienced this type of dis-order on some level. Your time is much better spent focussing on yourself and figuring out how to live your life skillfully than it is stuck judging everyone else but yourself. You don’t even know how to live your life the right way , what makes you think you can figure out somebody elses well ? I don’t think I would have ever changed my ways for any god I was just told to believe in on blind faith, or even at the outrage of my fellow man. What it took for me to change my ways was all of the negative Kamma i received from past transgressions and misdeeds, which led me to a period of complete suffering and pain, until I could no longer live with it. It was the birth of the “why?” An attention to detail needed to develop, paired with a brutal honesty about my actions and there affect on the life of myself and “others”. This could only come about because of the mistakes I made , leading to this immense suffering, which progressed into a need to understand the suffering in order to bring it to its end. I Studied the past to understand the present, and worked with the present to dictate and pave the future towards a more skillful and harmonious way of being. When we are judging morally , is it because we want to be right and feel righteous ? Or is it because you want to help somebody in some way shape or form, so that they do not have to live with the terrible consequences of their actions ? If it is the latter, it you cannot dissuade someone from wrong doings in an easy going and loving way, let them make their mistakes. Do not hold onto anger or resentment for this person, it is not good for them , and it is certainly not for yourself. Let Kamma kick their ass and mop the floor with them , it is the only way some people learn.. it was the only way for me anyways. Anyways that is enough rambling for now. Now it’s your guys’ turn !!! Hoping to get some interesting dialogue going. I hope this was coherent and clear, in a bit of a funny head space today so I’m hoping this did not come out as too all over your brother in dao, kyoji

Are you two beyond becoming? @old3bob @stirling

Perception is always limited. Idk, the Jhanas are pretty darn repeatable. Of course it was always there... But it means jack shit to one, if one never finds it.

"I" like that you're welcome, m'friend.

but does this seeing mean that self must be abandoned just because it is temporary, and not lacking ultimate reality?

It seems to me to be a repeatable experience, and the methods are few.. However, no I cannot say with absolute certainty that I will have that same experience again, although I could certainly recognize it should I. I didn't ask, but I appreciate you stimulating thought/conversation nonetheless Hmm, I do find your thoughts hard to follow 100% , so figure me in my novice ways. Is movement not always present as well? Is the seed of one always contained in the other ? (i.e. the taiji? )

It seems to me that a lot of time voidness and emptiness do indeed get confused for one another... I guess it mostly just depends on context, but what doesn't !!! I saw the emptiness ( I think/believe) in my fleeting glimpse, and I can only conceptualize it after the fact as the all ground of everything in it's unmanifest form, and when the light entered myriad things were born of it. I don't think that makes the realm of the manifest any less real than the ground it emerges from. This is all I can offer further on this specific subject, and I don't know if this remark stays on topic or not. Language is tricky.

I'm not sure I follow really. Is this similar to the idea of two truths, the ultimate and the conventional, and not leaning towards one extremity/ the four extremes? Where is your silence while engaged in thought? Where is your stillness when in motion?

Is it weird to believe in a personal will, and complete determinism at the same time? @old3bob @steve @stirling Is the skill in which we use, adapt, and react to such a force important just the same as our perspective?

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Shoshin (初心) or Beginners Mind was the most important thing for me to cultivate.. For the expert, the possibilities are not many, whereas for the beginner they are aplenty.

Elucidate ? are you underhandedly calling me nothing but a result of cause and effect, without any imperial self? I would myself consider that to only be half true!

what do you mean by "our concept of human justice"? Ahah, this post o'mine feels like it was from another life. Yet, I agree with the sentiment almost more today than I did when I first posted it. Some people just do not learn via collective knowledge very well, and need to feel scorched finger tips in order to not touch hot embers. Of course, even the sensation of burning flesh is not enough for some. It is funny how many people are complaining about a lack of good teachers out there.. I feel like what is really lacking are all the good students. We need less teacher training, and more training to be a good student.

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I just can't imagine that this attitude is very conducive to development long term, although to an extent I understand what you are pointing out about practice not being confined to the cushion... Yet I don't see how that is an apt excuse for all of the name calling and trolling... Can we try to stick to talking about what is skillful? If you are at the level of attainment you say you are, which i cannot tell for myself, I am sure you have enough discernment to realize how trivial and useless the discussions you're partaking in here are... It is a waste, but Surely you know this.. Be better than that!